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post Oct 17 2014, 10:36 AM, updated 11y ago

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I've been using greenify for a long time.
i dont really know whether it is helping me save battery or causing me more trouble.
since opening a hibernated app has a tiny delay. not noticeable in most app, but very obvious for facebook.
opening a hibernated FB and you have to wait it load from scratch and stuck at the splash screen for 1-2 seconds.

below is battery info of 2 days. both approximate in standby for 7 hours. in the same spot on my table connected to the same wifi.

First one, with greenify.
almost all user apps&games and many unused system apps were greenify. only messaging apps like viber whatsapp hangouts, and google search were left untouched.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


second one, with greenify uninstalled.
i left google+, chrome, and FB running in the background (open the app and press home button)
wakelock duration is almost twice compared with with greenify, FB being the biggest culprit
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


but strangely...the battery drain is the same, both left with 97%. , both case also lose 3% over a period of 7 hours.
greenify doesn't do much to help save battery.
and in the case of FB, it causes unnecessary delay for app opening.

do you still think it's worth using greenify?

Update: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=70947771

This post has been edited by mtxx: Oct 18 2014, 03:00 PM
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post Oct 17 2014, 10:43 AM

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As usual, first world problem discussing how much battery can be saved or how much lag can minimise despite millions of children still suffering from hunger.
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post Oct 17 2014, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(siren @ Oct 17 2014, 10:43 AM)
As usual, first world problem discussing how much battery can be saved or how much lag can minimise despite millions of children still suffering from hunger.
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well this IS a forum section about android. what else are we suppose to discuss?

i think there is a section called real world issue, head over there if this place doesn't interest you.
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post Oct 17 2014, 11:15 AM

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im still using it.

not bcoz of the battery, but i need it to disable push notification on certain apps coz its annoying.

if its improving my battery life, its a plus
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post Oct 17 2014, 12:00 PM

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using it, loving it, save battery. no complain
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post Oct 17 2014, 12:32 PM

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It saves battery like a bawss tongue.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Ultima @ Oct 17 2014, 11:15 AM)
im still using it.

not bcoz of the battery, but i need it to disable push notification on certain apps coz its annoying.

if its improving my battery life, its a plus
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u can disable push notification from settings... with kitkat ROM

not sure why u need it....
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post Oct 17 2014, 12:40 PM

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tried greenify before, didn't perform to expectation, uninstall liao.
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I am using greenify pro recently on my LG G Pro2, mediapad x1 n ex oppo Find7
Excellent battery savings. With phone on standby battery drain say over even 7 hours hardly exceed 2%
Before using greenify pro a drop of 5-7% is common
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post Oct 17 2014, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Oct 17 2014, 01:10 PM)
I am using greenify pro recently on my LG G Pro2, mediapad x1 n ex oppo Find7
Excellent battery savings. With phone on standby battery drain say over even 7 hours hardly exceed 2%
Before using greenify pro a drop of 5-7% is common
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but for my case, got or no greenify also same only.
u try disable your greenify for one day. freeze it with titanium backup and see la.
maybe same results also.
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IF you have WeChat installed, Greenify is a must.
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post Oct 17 2014, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(((Xa))0102 @ Oct 17 2014, 02:38 PM)
IF you have WeChat installed, Greenify is a must.
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i dont use wechat, but if you greenify wechat, it will still get message?

getting lots of comments that say greenify help save battery.
but truth is, i let it overnight in standby with the most prominent wakelock culprits in the background, i get the same battery life. though the wakelock is higher without greenify, battery drain is identical.

wonder anyone actually do comparison with and without greenify.
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QUOTE(mtxx @ Oct 17 2014, 02:27 PM)
but for my case, got or no greenify also same only.
u try disable your greenify for one day. freeze it with titanium backup and see la.
maybe same results also.
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No need. I had done extensive testing before with n without using Greenify pro.
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QUOTE(mtxx @ Oct 17 2014, 02:27 PM)
but for my case, got or no greenify also same only.
u try disable your greenify for one day. freeze it with titanium backup and see la.
maybe same results also.
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I dont know about you. Ive been using Greenify for almost a year and a half. My enthusiasm in android convince me that Greenify increased my battery life. Why? Because it prevents all wakelocks that ive added to Hibernation Mode. I already tried many times after flashing new rom ,without installing Greenify and i compare them with Greenify install and Hibernation mode active, result is obvious to me that Greenify does help.

You saying your phone got delay when open up Facebook, but you hibernate facebook right? Dont want delay just dont hibernate it, just a couple of seconds does not interfere much in your life.

If you feel unhappy about Greenify, you are welcome to make a complaint in XDA greenify thread.
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QUOTE(mtxx @ Oct 17 2014, 02:27 PM)
but for my case, got or no greenify also same only.
u try disable your greenify for one day. freeze it with titanium backup and see la.
maybe same results also.
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No need. I had done extensive testing before with n without using Greenify pro.
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QUOTE(mtxx @ Oct 17 2014, 02:45 PM)
i dont use wechat, but if you greenify wechat, it will still get message?

getting lots of comments that say greenify help save battery.
but truth is, i let it overnight in standby with the most prominent wakelock culprits in the background, i get the same battery life. though the wakelock is higher without greenify, battery drain is identical.

wonder anyone actually do comparison with and without greenify.
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Nope, unless you're on Greenify Pro. I'm a person who check my phone on regular intervals, since I have so many phones to deal with. Plus I rarely use WeChat, only use it to contact those that are from China.

Let me ask you, would you rather have battery consuming and long duration wakelocks? Or many but short and low battery consumption wakelocks?
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QUOTE(((Xa))0102 @ Oct 17 2014, 02:47 PM)
Nope, unless you're on Greenify Pro. I'm a person who check my phone on regular intervals, since I have so many phones to deal with. Plus I rarely use WeChat, only use it to contact those that are from China.

Let me ask you, would you rather have battery consuming and long duration wakelocks? Or many but short and low battery consumption wakelocks?
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i am using greenify pro, boost mode and xposed and everything.

i also want to believe greenify helps. but truth is there is no difference.
view picture in first post. same battery drain. 3% in 7 hours. rclxub.gif

i'll do more test next week.
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post Oct 17 2014, 02:54 PM

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im using it n no problem at all

its does save my battery

from 10pm till 7 am hibernate all apps

only 1% used up
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post Oct 17 2014, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(wajahebat @ Oct 17 2014, 02:46 PM)
I dont know about you. Ive been using Greenify for almost a year and a half. My enthusiasm in android convince me that Greenify increased my battery life. Why? Because it prevents all wakelocks that ive added to Hibernation Mode. I already tried many times after flashing new rom ,without installing Greenify and i compare them with Greenify install and Hibernation mode active, result is obvious to me that Greenify does help.

You saying your phone got delay when open up Facebook, but you hibernate facebook right? Dont want delay just dont hibernate it, just a couple of seconds does not interfere much in your life.

If you feel unhappy about Greenify, you are welcome to make a complaint in XDA greenify thread.
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i used to believe greenify helps. i even bought full version to support.
but after i realize same battery drain only, i feel like i wasted my money only.

FB is the app that has the highest wake trigger. 100+ times, it's like >10 times every hour. lol...

btw i also got post in xda. but there like ghost town.

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QUOTE(mtxx @ Oct 17 2014, 02:59 PM)
i used to believe greenify helps. i even bought full version to support.
but after i realize same battery drain only, i feel like i wasted my money only.

FB is the app that has the highest wake trigger. 70+ times, it's like 10 times every hour. lol...

btw i also got post in xda. but there like ghost town.
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Just uninstall FB and use Flipboard to view FB. No wakelocks and uses the least battery, even lesser than browser. That is if you can live without notifications like me, I have a dedicated iPhone for all of my push notifications.
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QUOTE(mtxx @ Oct 17 2014, 02:59 PM)
i used to believe greenify helps. i even bought full version to support.
but after i realize same battery drain only, i feel like i wasted my money only.

FB is the app that has the highest wake trigger. 70+ times, it's like 10 times every hour. lol...

btw i also got post in xda. but there like ghost town.
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Have you identify the culprit who sucks your battery? Is it Greenify or Facebook?
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QUOTE(wajahebat @ Oct 17 2014, 03:04 PM)
Have you identify the culprit who sucks your battery? Is it Greenify or Facebook?
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I don't have battery drain. My battery life is excellent.
I was using greenify all this while

Just that I have a curious thought one day. I wonder how bad my battery life would be without greenify. Wana get some data so I can convince people to use greenify. Showing people proof is more convincing than just saying greenify save battery like a boss

So I freeze greenify yesterday morning. Use my phone like usual. And let it be though out the night. Expecting to wake with 2-3 times the battery drain.

But guess what? It's the same. So I wonder whether greenify is really doing its job.

But i guess it toot early to judge jz base one one day test. I'll try again few times and see.
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QUOTE(mtxx @ Oct 17 2014, 03:18 PM)
I don't have battery drain. My battery life is excellent.
I was using greenify all this while

Just that I have a curious thought one day. I wonder how bad my battery life would be without greenify. Wana get some data so I can convince people to use greenify. Showing people proof is more convincing than just saying greenify save battery like a boss

So I freeze greenify yesterday morning. Use my phone like usual. And let it be though out the night. Expecting to wake with 2-3 times the battery drain.

But guess what? It's the same. So I wonder whether greenify is really doing its job.

But i guess it toot early to judge jz base one one day test. I'll try again few times and see.
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try uninstalling greenify instead of freezing it. then re-run your test
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QUOTE(Haters_Gonna_H8 @ Oct 17 2014, 03:23 PM)
try uninstalling greenify instead of freezing it. then re-run your test
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IMHO freezing is as good as uninstalling. Just that it still occupies space on your partition.
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QUOTE(mtxx @ Oct 17 2014, 03:18 PM)
I don't have battery drain. My battery life is excellent.
I was using greenify all this while

Just that I have a curious thought one day. I wonder how bad my battery life would be without greenify. Wana get some data so I can convince people to use greenify. Showing people proof is more convincing than just saying greenify save battery like a boss

So I freeze greenify yesterday morning. Use my phone like usual. And let it be though out the night. Expecting to wake with 2-3 times the battery drain.

But guess what? It's the same. So I wonder whether greenify is really doing its job.

But i guess it toot early to judge jz base one one day test. I'll try again few times and see.
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Cant really say much but my phone battery does sucks a bit without Greenify.
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QUOTE(((Xa))0102 @ Oct 17 2014, 03:27 PM)
IMHO freezing is as good as uninstalling. Just that it still occupies space on your partition.
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yes, i know, but just wanted to see if there is any impact. since he is already testing it, why not do that test too smile.gif
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this greenify confirm works.

before instal i had about only 4/6 hours but after greenify i have recorded about up to 2 days battery life.. u can compare the running apps before geenify and after install

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What phone are you using? IMO new phones won't see that much of an impact cos the battery is fairly new.

Maybe you'll see more results on older phones?

I installed greenify on my mi3 with aosp it does help a bit when on idle. If you're using your phone most of the time don't think it'll help much since some of the apps only hibernate after screen is off. Killing tasks in the background helps conserve battery too. So if you kill background tasks oftenly, don't think you'll see significant differences.

By the way I have no problems with notifications for my WhatsApp. I do get instant notifications. No lag or anything so far.
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Another question, do you have Xposed install?
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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Oct 17 2014, 06:11 PM)
Another question, do you have Xposed install?
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Can greenify freezes chrome and google services. Those seems to be running in background all the time. Does this consume battery?
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QUOTE(viqq @ Oct 17 2014, 05:24 PM)
What phone are you using? IMO new phones won't see that much of an impact cos the battery is fairly new.

Maybe you'll see more results on older phones?

I installed greenify on my mi3 with aosp it does help a bit when on idle. If you're using your phone most of the time don't think it'll help much since some of the apps only hibernate after screen is off. Killing tasks in the background helps conserve battery too. So if you kill background tasks oftenly, don't think you'll see significant differences.

By the way I have no problems with notifications for my WhatsApp. I do get instant notifications. No lag or anything so far.
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That's why I compare when they are idle. I will try again tonight.


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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Oct 17 2014, 06:51 PM)
Can greenify freezes chrome and google services. Those seems to be running in background all the time. Does this consume battery?
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You need the paid version only can freeze system apps.
You can freeze chrome if u have the donate versjon. But it's not advisable to freeze Google service. It will get woken all the time, many apps need it.


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QUOTE(ashdwoers @ Oct 17 2014, 02:54 PM)
im using it n no problem at all

its does save my battery

from 10pm till 7 am hibernate all apps

only 1% used up
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Cool. Doesn't do that for me, but perhaps....I'm not hibernating much.
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QUOTE(mtxx @ Oct 17 2014, 06:54 PM)
That's why I compare when they are idle. I will try again tonight.
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Mind if I ask what phone are you using? That battery life is pretty healthy in the first place. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(ashdwoers @ Oct 17 2014, 02:54 PM)
im using it n no problem at all

its does save my battery

from 10pm till 7 am hibernate all apps

only 1% used up
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Do you hibernate system apps too?
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QUOTE(viqq @ Oct 17 2014, 07:20 PM)
Mind if I ask what phone are you using? That battery life is pretty healthy in the first place. biggrin.gif
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Yeah me too. Got no significant difference on greenify on TW based rom but help a bit on aosp based rom as cm known as bad idle time for klte. Maybe 30 minutes longer about 5-6 sot than 6-7 on TW. Btw I'm s5 user here
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By the way it seems like CleanMaster is killing off the accessibility settings for the greenify which is required to hibernate the apps?
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Idle battery drop is another story.

Because Greenify is work to block the apps from trigger awake.

I have OnePlus One, no matter how hard to mod my device, it still drain on idle 1% per hours because I have activate the double tap to wake feature (with or without the help of Greenify)
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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Oct 17 2014, 08:13 PM)
Idle battery drop is another story.

Because Greenify is work to block the apps from trigger awake.

I have OnePlus One, no matter how hard to mod my device, it still drain on idle 1% per hours because I have activate the double tap to wake feature (with or without the help of Greenify)
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The double tap on ONO I think is poorly executed...there is absolutely close to ZERO battery drain on my LG G Pro2 and ex Oppo Find 7 with the double tap activated. I'd been reading of such battery drains in ONO forums. Another problem is the often sudden wakeup of phone while inside pockets ?? - the doubletap is perhaps overly sensitive causing this

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Oct 17 2014, 08:19 PM)
The double tap on ONO I think is poorly executed...there is absolutely close to  ZERO battery drain on my LG G Pro2 and ex Oppo Find 7 with the double tap activated. I'd been reading of such battery drains in ONO forums. Another problem is the often sudden wakeup of phone while inside pockets ?? - the doubletap is perhaps overly sensitive causing this
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Yeah, I do agree with you the OnePlus Team and as well CM Team are poorly make use of the hardware and software for the DoubleTap to Wake. Is no where as good as LG G series device.

As for the sudden wakeup I haven't face even once it so far for my daily usage, I wonder don't you Find 7 have sudden wakeup ever once before? Since both Find 7 and One are using the same hardware. Just QHD and FHD between it.
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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Oct 17 2014, 08:25 PM)
Yeah, I do agree with you the OnePlus Team and as well CM Team are poorly make use of the hardware and software for the DoubleTap to Wake. Is no where as good as LG G series device.

As for the sudden wakeup I haven't face even once it so far for my daily usage, I wonder don't you Find 7 have sudden wakeup ever once before? Since both Find 7 and One are using the same hardware. Just QHD and FHD between it.
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I never faced this wakeup issue on my Oppo Find 7 ; if it does than I am totally unaware about it
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Actually android already have a pretty good ram management system.

Greenify is just an extra. I don't know if we really need it but so far so good la.

Besides Greenify i also use ShutApp and CleanMaster to clean the background services
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QUOTE(viqq @ Oct 17 2014, 08:38 PM)
Actually android already have a pretty good ram management system.

Greenify is just an extra. I don't know if we really need it but so far so good la.

Besides Greenify i also use ShutApp and CleanMaster to clean the background services
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I think you miss understand the way of Greenify usage, I not sure for ShutApp, but CleanMaster basically just another Apps Killer, or you can call it Force Close. Greenify doesn't not kill the apps like any other Apps Killer or Task Manager, Greenify is put the apps to sleep (or you can call it Hibernate) and when you need it or use it, it resume back where you left off, while Task Killer can't do this.
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QUOTE(mtxx @ Oct 17 2014, 10:36 AM)
I've been using greenify for a long time.
i dont really know whether it is helping me save battery or causing me more trouble.
since opening a hibernated app has a tiny delay. not noticeable in most app, but very obvious for facebook.
opening a hibernated FB and you have to wait it load from scratch and stuck at the splash screen for 1-2 seconds.

below is battery info of 2 days. both approximate in standby for 7 hours. in the same spot on my table connected to the same wifi.

First one, with greenify.
almost all user apps&games and many unused system apps were greenify. only messaging apps like viber whatsapp hangouts, and google search were left untouched.
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second one, with greenify uninstalled.
i left google+, chrome, and FB running in the background (open the app and press home button)
wakelock duration is almost twice compared with with greenify, FB being the biggest culprit
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but strangely...the battery drain is the same, both left with 97%. , both case also lose 3% over a period of 7 hours.
greenify doesn't do much to help save battery.
and in the case of FB, it causes unnecessary delay for app opening.

do you still think it's worth using greenify?
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IMO the first few % is not accurate, sometime even after some usage the % still not dropped. maybe should try more hours until the % drop till 90% or less.

QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Oct 17 2014, 06:51 PM)
Can greenify freezes chrome and google services. Those seems to be running in background all the time. Does this consume battery?
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chrome i think no need to greenify. i check with wakelock, it doesn't wakes up the system or prevent from deep sleep.
but google search in other hands really need to be greenify, it wakes the system way too much time.
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Mind if I ask what phone are you using? That battery life is pretty healthy in the first place. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Oct 17 2014, 08:51 PM)
IMO the first few % is not accurate, sometime even after some usage the % still not dropped. maybe should try more hours until the % drop till 90% or less.
chrome i think no need to greenify. i check with wakelock, it doesn't wakes up the system or prevent from deep sleep.
but google search in other hands really need to be greenify, it wakes the system way too much time.
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I only sleep 7 hours a day. That only enough to make it drop 3%.
U wan me to drain it in standby to 90% then I need to leave it idle 21 hours. Impossible la. I need to use my phone.

Google now won't work if u greenify search. So I leave it on.

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Oct 17 2014, 08:51 PM)
IMO the first few % is not accurate, sometime even after some usage the % still not dropped. maybe should try more hours until the % drop till 90% or less.
chrome i think no need to greenify. i check with wakelock, it doesn't wakes up the system or prevent from deep sleep.
but google search in other hands really need to be greenify, it wakes the system way too much time.
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If i disable google search,playstore still functioning rite?
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Play store n search not related. Disable search will not affect play store
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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Oct 17 2014, 08:47 PM)
I think you miss understand the way of Greenify usage, I not sure for ShutApp, but CleanMaster basically just another Apps Killer, or you can call it Force Close. Greenify doesn't not kill the apps like any other Apps Killer or Task Manager, Greenify is put the apps to sleep (or you can call it Hibernate) and when you need it or use it, it resume back where you left off, while Task Killer can't do this.
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Exactly, I know what Greenify does. I can only say that one of the reason why I sometimes prefer killing tasks completely is to free up RAM. I'm too used to the built in cleaner of the MIUI. Now that I've gone to AOSP, I have yet to give up this idea of killing the tasks completely to free up RAM.

But then again, I have yet to discover if an app goes into hibernation will it take up the RAM usage as well? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(mtxx @ Oct 17 2014, 09:14 PM)
I only sleep 7 hours a day. That only enough to make it drop 3%.
U wan me to drain it in standby to 90% then I need to leave it idle 21 hours. Impossible la. I need to use my phone.

Google now won't work if u greenify search. So I leave it on.
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Otherwise the data from 100% drop few % is not accurate. My G Pro 2 from 100% directly use for 20 minutes SOT still show 100%.

Only if you always use Google Now voice function, otherwise no point to have it keep running and every minute it'll wake up the device.

QUOTE(viqq @ Oct 17 2014, 10:14 PM)
Exactly, I know what Greenify does. I can only say that one of the reason why I sometimes prefer killing tasks completely is to free up RAM. I'm too used to the built in cleaner of the MIUI. Now that I've gone to AOSP, I have yet to give up this idea of killing the tasks completely to free up RAM.

But then again, I have yet to discover if an app goes into hibernation will it take up the RAM usage as well?  hmm.gif
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No point to always killing app, android system is designed to load app that you frequently use as stand by so killing it means it'll load the app over and over again making your battery worse.

When greenify put an app into hibernation it basically just kill the app when going into deep sleep. It will also free up the ram. This is why I didn't put Chrome in greenify list, otherwise it will load again all the many tabs.
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Oct 17 2014, 10:47 PM)
Otherwise the data from 100% drop few % is not accurate. My G Pro 2 from 100% directly use for 20 minutes SOT still show 100%.

Only if you always use Google Now voice function, otherwise no point to have it keep running and every minute it'll wake up the device.
No point to always killing app, android system is designed to load app that you frequently use as stand by so killing it means it'll load the app over and over again making your battery worse.

When greenify put an app into hibernation it basically just kill the app when going into deep sleep. It will also free up the ram. This is why I didn't put Chrome in greenify list, otherwise it will load again all the many tabs.
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QUOTE(viqq @ Oct 17 2014, 10:14 PM)
Exactly, I know what Greenify does. I can only say that one of the reason why I sometimes prefer killing tasks completely is to free up RAM. I'm too used to the built in cleaner of the MIUI. Now that I've gone to AOSP, I have yet to give up this idea of killing the tasks completely to free up RAM.

But then again, I have yet to discover if an app goes into hibernation will it take up the RAM usage as well?  hmm.gif
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After JellyBean/ICS you no longer need to kill task unless you are using 512RAM bro sweat.gif

Also, the Greenify Hibernation doesn't take your RAM if your Apps goes hibernated. It work exactly like Task Killer but it won't kill it, I don't know code, but this is really how it works, you try compare task killer and Greenify on the Chrome (with few tabs) you can get what I mean.
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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Oct 18 2014, 12:49 AM)
After JellyBean/ICS you no longer need to kill task unless you are using 512RAM bro sweat.gif

Also, the Greenify Hibernation doesn't take your RAM if your Apps goes hibernated. It work exactly like Task Killer but it won't kill it, I don't know code, but this is really how it works, you try compare task killer and Greenify on the Chrome (with few tabs) you can get what I mean.
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Haha I always like to see my ram a lot ma.

Now i kill apps only after a long session with it, then hibernate it.

Anyways still having this habit of cleaning the background tasks coz of miui

By the way does widget take up resources? I've set hibernation & lock on my desktop to preserve the power button
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Ur phone usage like my grandma phone weh.

Doesn't justify enough tbh. Greenify works.
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reason i use greenify
cant stand if got any program i dont wan run in the back,takes my ram
idle power gets battery

i dont expect huge battery gain if use greenify,just for idle power and peace of mind
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im still using it.

not bcoz of the battery, but i need it to disable push notification on certain apps coz its annoying.

if its improving my battery life, its a plus
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QUOTE(dembaba9000 @ Oct 18 2014, 08:26 AM)
Ur phone usage like my grandma phone weh.

Doesn't justify enough tbh. Greenify works.
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Because I'm mostly out of office most of the time, I need a lot of juice but hate bringing power bank around. So maximize juice mode.

QUOTE(nickchk89 @ Oct 18 2014, 08:33 AM)
reason i use greenify
cant stand if got any program i dont wan run in the back,takes my ram
idle power gets battery

i dont expect huge battery gain if use greenify,just for idle power and peace of mind
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If hibernating an app means releasing RAM as well then yeah.

QUOTE(mudkipryan94 @ Oct 18 2014, 08:58 AM)
Hi-5... and if wanna deepest battery saver.. go ditch Xposed framework... smth was called deep sleep smth (if i not mistaken)
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Switch off the phone completely and switch on when needed is the most power battery saver.
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QUOTE(viqq @ Oct 18 2014, 11:01 AM)
Because I'm mostly out of office most of the time, I need a lot of juice but hate bringing power bank around. So maximize juice mode.
If hibernating an app means releasing RAM as well then yeah.
Switch off the phone completely and switch on when needed is the most power battery saver.
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It will release the unused ram,that's why i love it

Mi3 if without greenify,will left only 300mb,if hibernate all apps =800mb,I'm not a ssocial apps heavy user,so i can sacrifice the fb,wechat,whatapps notification.
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As usual, first world problem discussing how much battery can be saved or how much lag can minimise despite millions of children still suffering from hunger.
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QUOTE(nickchk89 @ Oct 18 2014, 11:31 AM)
It will release the unused ram,that's why i love it

Mi3 if without greenify,will left only 300mb,if hibernate all apps =800mb,I'm not a ssocial apps heavy user,so i can sacrifice the fb,wechat,whatapps notification.
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Cool. Good to know that.

I'm starting to uninstall every other RAM booster softwares and only keep greenify. Well, I still need the cleanmaster for cleaning junks though.

By the way, what System apps are safe to Greenify? I don't want to f the OS up.

QUOTE(ramz @ Oct 18 2014, 02:08 PM)
Hehe, maybe we all should talk about world hunger and nothing else. I don't have detail study to back my claim. But I really didn't  notice any battery savings after 6 month of use. After that I uninstalled it
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Here are my findings.

Apps that are kept in ram do cause significant increase in wake lock
wake lock with greenify is 2%,
without greenify (5-14% depending on a number of background app kept)

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Greenify works by significantly reduces wakelocks. But the results is not that jaw dropping. If u just clear your apps and go to sleep, the results will be the same. Greenify helps by auto force stop your background apps when it's not in use during idle. Just like iOS let unused app freeze and stop wasting resources.

Extra wake lock seems bad, and it does impact battery life, but the impact is very minimal. I done 3 observation.
A 2% wake lock causes 3% battery lost over a 6 hour 45 mins period
A 5% wake lock causes 3% battery lost over a 6 hour 45 mins period
A 14% wake lock causes 5% battery lost over a 6 hour 10 mins period.

I'm giving this issue a rest. Lost interest in further investigating.
In the mean time I'll continue using greenify to freeze fb. It's the highest wake lock contributor.
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QUOTE(mtxx @ Oct 18 2014, 02:56 PM)
Here are my findings.

Apps that are kept in ram do cause significant increase in wake lock
wake lock with greenify is 2%,
without greenify (5-14% depending on a number of background app kept)

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Greenify works by significantly reduces wakelocks. But the results is not that jaw dropping. If u just clear your apps and go to sleep, the results will be the same. Greenify helps by auto force stop your background apps when it's not in use during idle. Just like iOS let unused app freeze and stop wasting resources.

Extra wake lock seems bad, and it does impact battery life, but the impact is very minimal. I done 3 observation.
A 2% wake lock causes 3% battery lost over a 6 hour 45 mins period
A 5% wake lock causes 3% battery lost over a 6 hour 45 mins period
A 14% wake lock causes 5% battery lost over a 6 hour 10 mins period.

I'm giving this issue a rest. Lost interest in further investigating.
In the mean time I'll continue using greenify to freeze fb. It's the highest wake lock contributor.
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due to your phone battery capacity is higher so then impact of wakelock is not that obvious. if phone with smaller capacity will see more impact from the wakelock.

Google Search seems only trigger wakelock every 10 minutes. did you use xposed+unBounce?
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QUOTE(viqq @ Oct 18 2014, 02:12 PM)
Cool. Good to know that.

I'm starting to uninstall every other RAM booster softwares and only keep greenify. Well, I still need the cleanmaster for cleaning junks though.

By the way, what System apps are safe to Greenify? I don't want to f the OS up.
Well saving energy means a better environment also. Why not?
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well,im not advice you to hibernate system apps,cause that will cost some trouble

i notice google play service can be hibernate,so i tried,it makes me cant sign in sometimes and close my apps downloading. a

if things are hangout,google plus,its safe to hibernate,but all in all,i wouldnt hibernate a single system apps
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Oct 18 2014, 03:11 PM)
due to your phone battery capacity is higher so then impact of wakelock is not that obvious. if phone with smaller capacity will see more impact from the wakelock.

Google Search seems only trigger wakelock every 10 minutes. did you use xposed+unBounce?
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No I'm not using un bounce. Never heard of this xposed module.

I'm using Google now. But turned off location reporting
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QUOTE(nickchk89 @ Oct 18 2014, 03:18 PM)
well,im not advice you to hibernate system apps,cause that will cost some trouble

i notice google play service can be hibernate,so i tried,it makes me cant sign in sometimes and close my apps downloading. a

if things are hangout,google plus,its safe to hibernate,but all in all,i wouldnt hibernate a single system apps
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Are you using Samsung phone? Touch wiz have a huge bunch of system apps that are safe to greenify. Heck it's even save to fully uninstall.

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save battery and keep annoying notification keep coming again n again...
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save battery and keep annoying notification keep coming again n again...
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if u never triggered it then it supposed to be automatically hibernate your apps, unless u go to apps setting to turn off notifications lah...

adui... need to teach meh tongue.gif
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if u never triggered it then it supposed to be automatically hibernate your apps, unless u go to apps setting to turn off notifications lah...

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QUOTE(mtxx @ Oct 18 2014, 03:35 PM)
Are you using Samsung phone? Touch wiz have a huge bunch of system apps that are safe to greenify. Heck it's even save to fully uninstall.

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i used moto g(no bloatware) and mi3 for now(not much bloatware),for those apps u mention,usually i freeze it,or delete the apk (i used s2 b4) laugh.gif
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QUOTE(mtxx @ Oct 18 2014, 02:56 PM)
Here are my findings.

Apps that are kept in ram do cause significant increase in wake lock
wake lock with greenify is 2%,
without greenify (5-14% depending on a number of background app kept)

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Greenify works by significantly reduces wakelocks. But the results is not that jaw dropping. If u just clear your apps and go to sleep, the results will be the same. Greenify helps by auto force stop your background apps when it's not in use during idle. Just like iOS let unused app freeze and stop wasting resources.

Extra wake lock seems bad, and it does impact battery life, but the impact is very minimal. I done 3 observation.
A 2% wake lock causes 3% battery lost over a 6 hour 45 mins period
A 5% wake lock causes 3% battery lost over a 6 hour 45 mins period
A 14% wake lock causes 5% battery lost over a 6 hour 10 mins period.

I'm giving this issue a rest. Lost interest in further investigating.
In the mean time I'll continue using greenify to freeze fb. It's the highest wake lock contributor.
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I dont know much, but from my findings and opinion, Greenify does help me in terms of saving more juice (Battery) during screen off time, as like Facebook/Twitter/Instagram. As those types of social apps (or something like it) introduces wakelocks during Deep Sleep as they uses Google Cloud Messaging (Push Notifications) in which, involve in many wakelocks. In my usage, i never care about any notification from those apps, im more to Messaging apps guy, so i would just Hibernate them.

About system wakelock, that doesnt contribute to this issue unless you're using Greenify to hibernate them then we can talk. If you just hibernate some user apps you downloaded from PlayStore, thats totally different story.

In your case, maybe your facebook or any social apps doesnt have much notification to create big wakelocks. But you mentioned FB still produce wakelocks even after Greenify?
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QUOTE(nickchk89 @ Oct 18 2014, 03:18 PM)
well,im not advice you to hibernate system apps,cause that will cost some trouble

i notice google play service can be hibernate,so i tried,it makes me cant sign in sometimes and close my apps downloading. a

if things are hangout,google plus,its safe to hibernate,but all in all,i wouldnt hibernate a single system apps
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I noticed that there's this App not installed thingy after installing Greenify or maybe because of the Xposed GEL module when I disable Google now? Hmm...

QUOTE(mtxx @ Oct 18 2014, 03:35 PM)
Are you using Samsung phone? Touch wiz have a huge bunch of system apps that are safe to greenify. Heck it's even save to fully uninstall.

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Whooaa.. I'm glad I'm on AOSP. But amazing that the note 3 still get so much battery juice with these bloatwares
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QUOTE(viqq @ Oct 19 2014, 12:34 AM)
I noticed that there's this App not installed thingy after installing Greenify or maybe because of the Xposed GEL module when I disable Google now? Hmm...
Whooaa.. I'm glad I'm on AOSP. But amazing that the note 3 still get so much battery juice with these bloatwares
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Those bloatware doesn't affect battery life much.
Even deleting all of them save me about 50MB space only.
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QUOTE(wajahebat @ Oct 18 2014, 09:56 PM)
I dont know much, but from my findings and opinion, Greenify does help me in terms of saving more juice (Battery) during screen off time, as like Facebook/Twitter/Instagram. As those types of social apps (or something like it) introduces wakelocks during Deep Sleep as they uses Google Cloud Messaging (Push Notifications) in which, involve in many wakelocks. In my usage, i never care about any notification from those apps, im more to Messaging apps guy, so i would just Hibernate them.

About system wakelock, that doesnt contribute to this issue unless you're using Greenify to hibernate them then we can talk. If you just hibernate some user apps you downloaded from PlayStore, thats totally different story.

In your case, maybe your facebook or any social apps doesnt have much notification to create big wakelocks. But you mentioned FB still produce wakelocks even after Greenify?
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I wonder how did you get that idea because I never said anything like that.

I'm comparing standby time while I sleep with and without greenify. One of the apps I greenify is Facebook.

With greenify, fb cause zero wake lock.
Without greenify, the wake lock is amazing, one day it has 70+ and another 100+.

I don't use fb messenger, contact sync is turn off, and notification off as well. But it still have so much wake lock. A terrible app if u ask me.

Refer to screen shots of wake lock detector I posted. It should give u a good idea.
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I wonder how did you get that idea because I never said anything like that.

I'm comparing standby time while I sleep with and without greenify. One of the apps I greenify is Facebook.

With greenify, fb cause zero wake lock.
Without greenify, the wake lock is amazing, one day it has 70+ and another 100+.

I don't use fb  messenger, contact sync is turn off, and notification off as well. But it still have so much wake lock. A terrible app if u ask me.

Refer to screen shots of wake lock detector I posted. It should give u a good idea.
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Blue : With greenify, you dont have FB wakelocks anymore.

Red : Yet you mentioned you still got wakelock, when? With greenify or without? I thought you got zero wakelock when using Greenify as like what u said in Blue
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well this IS a forum section about android. what else are we suppose to discuss?

i think there is a section called real world issue, head over there if this place doesn't interest you.
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Blue : With greenify, you dont have FB wakelocks anymore.

Red : Yet you mentioned you still got wakelock, when? With greenify or without? I thought you got zero wakelock when using Greenify as like what u said in Blue
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Oops my bad. I though in another paragraph I'm comparing without greenify tongue.gif
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off-topic: i like the way you handle mess,so mature and leaves no chance for further argument!
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Please head to cupid's corner for affection discussions. tongue.gif

Back to the topic:
If you guys use CleanMaster, running the junk cleaner will wake up facebook as well. hmm.gif


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Oops my bad. I though in another paragraph I'm comparing without greenify  tongue.gif
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What System App did you Greenified? Ure using Greenify Donate version or Free?

From what i saw from all your screenshot, its like you didnt Greenify any system app, i still can see Google Search as the app that do contribute in wakelock.

Youre using Cyanogenmod based rom? You have Privacy Guard to block certain permission of all apps. Use them
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QUOTE(wajahebat @ Oct 19 2014, 02:32 PM)
What System App did you Greenified? Ure using Greenify Donate version or Free?

From what i saw from all your screenshot, its like you didnt Greenify any system app, i still can see Google Search as the app that do contribute in wakelock.

Youre using Cyanogenmod based rom? You have Privacy Guard to block certain permission of all apps. Use them
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I uninstall all touch wiz bloatware.

I use greenify donate. I greenify some system apps like maps, google+ YouTube chrome

Google search I need. I'm using Google now.

I don't use cm. I'm using stock touch wiz rom.
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u can disable push notification from settings... with kitkat ROM

not sure why u need it....
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im using greenify pro btw
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QUOTE(mtxx @ Oct 19 2014, 11:12 PM)
I uninstall all touch wiz bloatware.

I use greenify donate. I greenify some system apps like maps, google+ YouTube chrome

Google search I need. I'm using Google now.

I don't use cm. I'm using stock touch wiz rom.
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Google Search is known for its massive wakelocks. I dont see any wrong with greenifying google search hmm.gif
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Google Search is known for its massive wakelocks. I dont see any wrong with greenifying google search hmm.gif
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Greenify Google search Google now reminder will still work?
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QUOTE(mtxx @ Oct 20 2014, 07:17 AM)
Are you Google now user?
Greenify Google search Google now reminder will still work?
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I dont use Google Now. But in my knowledge if you hibernate Google Search, Google Now maybe will not send you frequent update as before you use greenify it. As Google Now and Google Search is merged together in services
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post Oct 21 2014, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(mtxx @ Oct 20 2014, 07:17 AM)
Are you Google now user?
Greenify Google search Google now reminder will still work?
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I've try to put a reminder based on time on Google Now, then phone goes to deep sleep and greenify done it's job putting Google Search to hibernate, when the time reach the reminder notification never come out. Even after unlock screen and using the phone, still no reminder. Until I launch Google Now does the reminder appear.

I'm using Calendar (which is not greenified) for reminder, no delay in notification. But since you using G.Now without location reporting, I guess the hit on battery is not that much.

This post has been edited by xxboxx: Oct 21 2014, 12:55 PM
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post Oct 21 2014, 01:31 PM

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post Dec 29 2014, 10:44 PM

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Hi All,

I am a newbie with this Greenify app.
Recently i installed Greenify on my Samsung Galaxy S4 (Android v4.4.2) unroot
How i want to uninstall it....but i cant. I go to setting the uninstall option is grey
out. When i move the app icon to uninstall nothing happens.

Hope some one can help me out...

thank you.

This post has been edited by nitro: Dec 29 2014, 10:46 PM
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post Dec 29 2014, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(nitro @ Dec 29 2014, 10:44 PM)
Hi All,

I am a newbie with this Greenify app.
Recently i installed Greenify on my Samsung Galaxy S4 (Android v4.4.2) unroot
How i want to uninstall it....but i cant. I go to setting the uninstall option is grey
out. When i move the app icon to uninstall nothing happens.

Hope some one can help me out...

thank you.
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Go to settings, under security settings, find device administrator.

Unchecked greenify. Then u can uninstall it.
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post Jan 7 2015, 12:37 AM

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post Jan 7 2015, 09:02 AM

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must root to utilise greenify? unker benny told me that. but donation pack does work for unroot one right? anyone here unrooted and using greenify donate version? let me know how it helps ur batt and performance
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post Jan 7 2015, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Jan 7 2015, 09:02 AM)
must root to utilise greenify? unker benny told me that. but donation pack does work for unroot one right? anyone here unrooted and using greenify donate version? let me know how it helps ur batt and performance
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You must have root to run the pro version
Just check its requirements in playstore
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post Jan 7 2015, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jan 7 2015, 09:47 AM)
You must have root to run the pro version
Just check its requirements in playstore
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yeah i read it. but i thought they r running a trial mode for unroot version thou cry.gif otherwise den i wait my phone a bit older den root it
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post Jan 7 2015, 10:17 AM

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unroot version stops the app you selected as if you manually go into each app properties then press Stop. it has a widget called 'hibernate and lock screen' which I set it to slide up on my nova prime launcher.
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post Jan 7 2015, 08:22 PM

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thankz for the help. Done
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