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 Multiple Signs of Malaysia Property Bubble V12, Areas Klang valley & Johor

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post Oct 22 2014, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 22 2014, 10:59 AM)
ask your China man boss go fly kite... so stingy, reminds me of my another friend who works as QC head in seri kembangan factory, public holiday work, chinese new year 3rd day work di.. morning 8 am till night 8 pm, if new year and products are in need, then have to free OT... saturdays work, sundays half day..

boss got 2 Marcherati, and 3 type of mercz, 2 BMW just like that semenyih boss in aluminium dunno what LB alumi
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Itz morally wrong to cheat company moni like wat u did in claimin extra milleage. Its disguistin even the moni involved is small. Bear bear, stop doin dat. U dun wan ur future kid oso behave like dat. Pls lead by example.
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For bear bear, flipper is morally wrong but cheatin on milleage is nothin wrong. doh.gif
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post Oct 22 2014, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 22 2014, 10:59 AM)
ask your China man boss go fly kite... so stingy, reminds me of my another friend who works as QC head in seri kembangan factory, public holiday work, chinese new year 3rd day work di.. morning 8 am till night 8 pm, if new year and products are in need, then have to free OT... saturdays work, sundays half day..

boss got 2 Marcherati, and 3 type of mercz, 2 BMW just like that semenyih boss in aluminium dunno what LB alumi
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Then b the boss. Why u stil makan gaji???

Lai Lai Lai I'm willing to work for the bear bhd.

U drive big cars I hav my 99 days annual leave + 66 days MC + all Malai PH regardless which state + unlimited EL. Of cos my salary is fair at RM88k after tax p.a.

Allow me to call u BOSS.
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post Oct 22 2014, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 22 2014, 09:42 AM)
then how much are these strong holding powers? strong holding powers are not investors meh?/

low transaction clearly shows there are no demands for properties right or not? with this, how price will go up again? self call price up?? just that no fail investors sharing their story,

as explained, there are ceiling prices for those 300-400k chips upon up.. at least for the next 5 years to come... with ceiling prices, you need to service the loans and maintenance, more years a strong holding power investors servicing these, less profit margin it will get, at the price of say 550k one still cannot sell, still strong holding powers investors want to hold another 5 years to sell at 700k above? 550k not doing well, sell 700k would do better? and risk it by paying more loans and maintenance, by 5 years new launches already how many launched and completed, not to forgotten that investors units are getting old... buyers tends to buy newly vp /new launches units..

holding it longer if it does /cans ell higher price also ok, at least they are credit locked and lesser completion

haven't these been explained off
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Eh....people ask u yaksi you really go yaksi ah? Low transaction you should not imagine no demand oh....if can be seller and buyer cannot mert the agreed price. See who can hold longer. 1 cont to pay interest another one stress by gf or stay under bridge. Who is more stress?
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post Oct 22 2014, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 22 2014, 10:49 AM)
u steady lor, public holiday also work, triple salary...
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Knn....you think he is factory operator ah?
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post Oct 22 2014, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Oct 22 2014, 12:03 PM)
Then b the boss. Why u stil makan gaji???

Lai Lai Lai I'm willing to work for the bear bhd.

U drive big cars I hav my 99 days annual leave + 66 days MC + all Malai PH regardless which state + unlimited EL. Of cos my salary is fair at RM88k after tax p.a.

Allow me to call u BOSS.
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You sure bo...he fxxx kao the prop flipper but he himself flip rental and flip land. So you imagine what he will do when he become boss.
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 22 2014, 09:14 AM)
showtime747 you are wrong again, look at the vacant unit, if the index is one off going up or like,t you mention going 5-10% , many also aware if what you said is true again, why the transaction low?

waiting for investors to increase the price yearly by 5-10% and let the investors to profit more... if not why leave the transaction low?

no 2 ways about... it is either, they anticipated there will be drop, subsales houses are way above affordability and some cases dont feel value to money property , they are waiting investor to increase the price so that investors could profit more

in buying sub sales products those usually inflated 200k above one, there is no hurry nor rush... investors themselves will definitely not buy back these inflated properties, some forumers even mention if one miss the 1t phase, they wont even bother consider2nd phase, so for sub sales upon vp type that is after 1st , 2nd phase and completion, no investors will buy, look at the vacant units you will know..

don't be fool by ppl who say " investors are not selling but keeping", they lied from the start, they forgotten they are the "investors" , even there re these group of holding investors, they either target market of NOT general affordability not falling withing 400-800k segments or those who ware holding the blue chips as per TS mention those 300k chips property, they hope more buyers to buy more and more, some 500k holder know their risk, so having 700k and 900k holder will make them more secure like what the 300k are feeling now, "don't worry what bubble, we got 500k to cover us " that is why they think there is no bubble, they still have option to profit less..

can ask Jliew 500k plus chip, Jliew right or not? amaya too was holding 450k+ chip but he got a better bargain, mature area and city center area.. but size small and HTC around..
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Erm Bearbear , I saw my name here...

Why u always make mistake geh, I am holding 500k token but my condo is VP 4 years later..why I need worry
4 years later 500k just like 300k today. Even now I don't think u can get new unit 500k at sungai besi

Even 4 years before I am holding 800k plus condo and goin pg to VP soon..of coz this is a better category unit.

My next target is landed shop lot dy because after showtime n tiger advise I have better idea in investing landed..
If I can't pay my installment I will burn down my shop claim insurance rather than sell cheap cheap tongue.gif





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post Oct 22 2014, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 22 2014, 09:14 AM)
showtime747 you are wrong again, look at the vacant unit, if the index is one off going up or like,t you mention going 5-10% , many also aware if what you said is true again, why the transaction low?

waiting for investors to increase the price yearly by 5-10% and let the investors to profit more... if not why leave the transaction low?

no 2 ways about... it is either, they anticipated there will be drop, subsales houses are way above affordability and some cases dont feel value to money property , they are waiting investor to increase the price so that investors could profit more

in buying sub sales products those usually inflated 200k above one, there is no hurry nor rush... investors themselves will definitely not buy back these inflated properties, some forumers even mention if one miss the 1t phase, they wont even bother consider2nd phase, so for sub sales upon vp type that is after 1st , 2nd phase and completion, no investors will buy, look at the vacant units you will know..

Wow wow wow....... Dont miss interpret my msg ya....... I do bought 2nd phase project b4 ya..... as i'm unaware of the 1st phase, i miss the opportunity of 1st phase....... I says i wont buy 2nd phase or later meant that i'm aware of the project and i gave up the opportunity of 1st phase......  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

And lastly and importantly....... I dont represent ALL INVESTORS....... Which u always do, using a few cases then it becomes ALL.......  doh.gif 

Jus like your  doh.gif   logic....... Everybody will flip for 200k minimum.....   rclxub.gif 

don't be fool by ppl who say " investors are not selling but keeping", they lied from the start, they forgotten they are the "investors" , even there re these group of holding investors, they either target market of NOT general affordability not falling withing 400-800k segments or those who ware holding the blue chips as per TS mention those 300k chips property, they hope more buyers to buy more and more, some 500k holder know their risk, so having 700k and 900k holder will make them more secure like what the 300k are feeling now, "don't worry what bubble, we got 500k to cover us " that is why they think there is no bubble, they still have option to profit less..

can ask Jliew 500k plus chip, Jliew right or not? amaya too was holding 450k+ chip but he got a better bargain, mature area and city center area.. but size small and HTC around..
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Anyway...... Seems like the medium income group gonna be totally out of the Prop investment sooner than expected..... tongue.gif tongue.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

As usual.... bbw very tension during non working days..... sweat.gif

This post has been edited by AppreciativeMan: Oct 22 2014, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(bcpbeancounter @ Oct 22 2014, 12:17 PM)
You sure bo...he fxxx kao the prop flipper but he himself flip rental and flip land. So you imagine what he will do when he become boss.
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I'm vely sure if bro bear is a gd boss n giv me according to my requests. If bro bear does sthg silly then I 'll c him in court. Bro bear loyar hor.

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Bro bear go gai gai la. U r spending too much time writing too long here.
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Oct 22 2014, 12:45 PM)
Bro bear go gai gai la. U r spending too much time writing too long here.
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Go gai gai will expose Bearbear to truth that no dead chicken for him and price is not coming down yet..
Gf will pressure to put down payment but bank account not ready yet..best option is pretend sick n stay at home tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Oct 22 2014, 12:45 PM)
Bro bear go gai gai la. U r spending too much time writing too long here.
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He go gai gai already then come back here and throw fustration mah....... if didnt throw, keep inside not healthy ya..... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Oct 22 2014, 12:39 PM)
I'm vely sure if bro bear is a gd boss n giv me according to my requests. If bro bear does sthg silly then I 'll c him in court. Bro bear loyar hor.
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Labor court onli? Bear bear got powderful lawyer gf. He no wori. Can sue latuK until pant down.

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post Oct 22 2014, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Oct 22 2014, 12:39 PM)
Anyway...... Seems like the medium income group gonna be totally out of the Prop investment sooner than expected.....  tongue.gif  tongue.gif rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

As usual.... bbw very tension during non working days.....  sweat.gif
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Since property price surge so much in past 5-6 years, I think we need to redefining Middle income, Govt increased PR1MA limit to 10K, isn't that indicates middle income should be around that figure ?

Besides I had always says Properties is 95% Chinese business, so we should actually use Chinese standard middle income, I would suggest middle income to be RM 15-25K per household, or individual should be RM 8-15K.

So who said middle income cannot afford property ? just that many never realised they have been downgraded, they are now low income group, eg 3K used to be big deal in the 80s or 6K used to be great deal in the 90's now 3K are considered poor in the city while 6K is considered jialat after paying house, car & expenses, since 2015 budget removed 4K & below earner from income tax, I think that should be indicator of low income group.

Many still can't accept that no longer enjoying the same lifestyle like their Bros/Sis/Uncle/Auntie/Senior holding the same position half a decades ago.

If solely depends on Salary we will continue to suffer downgrading, Hard & Cruel but that's reality.


QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Oct 22 2014, 12:55 PM)
He go gai gai already then come back here and throw fustration mah....... if didnt throw, keep inside not healthy ya.....   tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Sure GF will see many stall in mall promoting properties, Signboard, Banner all over the street, Radio in car, Bear2 ear pain loh..lol

Actually I also kind of bored, seem like majority Signboard are promoting property here & there, as if nothing else but property in our market, like all other businesses is death. . sian..ZzzZzz

This post has been edited by jolokia: Oct 22 2014, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Oct 22 2014, 12:55 PM)
Labor court onli? Bear bear got powderful lawyer gf. He no wori. Can sue latuK until pant down.
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Tot gf lali liao???
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Oct 22 2014, 02:59 PM)
Tot gf lali liao???
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GF packing liao, giving him ultimatum.. brows.gif

Bear2 GF actually middle income group who can afford quite reasonable properties, but because Bear2 5.5K which is belongs to low income group, she will be dragged down below middle income which required 15K income, GF 8K + Bear2 5.5K only = 13.5K, she need find someone with 12K above, then 20K quite comfort liao.

We should change our plan to save this young female lawyer from falling to Wolf in Bear skin, who failed to aim at own PAMA land now target GF PAMA land & Bangalow.. he deliberately don't want to buy property for married, so that in law see daughter so cham & sponsored 1 as wedding gift, later this wolf will find ways to ask in law to transfer theirs land & properties under his name, very cunning fellow.

We shall not let bad people like him succeeded, must stop him...kakaka

Today Dewali must let good win over evil... tongue.gif
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post Oct 22 2014, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 22 2014, 10:59 AM)
ask your China man boss go fly kite... so stingy, reminds me of my another friend who works as QC head in seri kembangan factory, public holiday work, chinese new year 3rd day work di.. morning 8 am till night 8 pm, if new year and products are in need, then have to free OT... saturdays work, sundays half day..

boss got 2 Marcherati, and 3 type of mercz, 2 BMW just like that semenyih boss in aluminium dunno what LB alumi
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Bear bear what's marcherati?
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Bear2, this one for u!

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3386394
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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Oct 22 2014, 05:24 PM)
Bear bear what's marcherati?
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I think he try to say the boss got 2 maraschino cherry on his chest..lol

Maserati too complicated for him.




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QUOTE(CK15 @ Oct 22 2014, 05:50 PM)
How come so cheap ?? made of hollow block or what.?

Bear2 qualified but GF salary over 8K not qualified.

This post has been edited by jolokia: Oct 22 2014, 06:01 PM

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