Again your theory of hold property long time is ok, hold short time not ok. Like rape grandmother ok, rape young girl not ok ?

Your 10 acre kajang land bought RM3k. Now want to sell RM5m. You include RM4,997,000.00 inside. Cheating a lot of hard earn money from lower class. you got moral ?

You and your family hold RM5m property. You are on paper rich people (although can see cannot touch). So you rich people sapu the low salary workers.

But...but...but.... you are also a low salary workers....how leh like that ?

Ya what. Property price will increase 5-10%. If you believe this, then buy as soon as you can

If you believe price will start coming down in 2015, then don't buy in 2015. Wait another 2 years and buy in 2017

bearbear during weekend you very tension, so simple thing also cannot go inside your brain. You want to buy when the price is at the peak ?

You are wrong.

Flipping = rape
Hold long and flip = raping old grandmother
Hold short and flip = raping young girl

Because you say flipping is a crime. Raping is also a crime. You hold long, so you are raping a old grandmother. No different from short term flipper who rape young girl

Got it ?

bearbear your logic very weird one......

You ask for discount from the market price. Seller don't give you, you call them immoral

Then because of that, you ask UUU don't ask for discount from lawyer.....

You are very funny.....because you fail to get a good bargain, you prevent others to get bargains.

You are the champion...

Ok ok. If you believe them, then price will start to fall in 2015 ?

If you believe next year price will start coming down, then you should NOT buy next year. Price will slowly come down and bottom in 2017. Buy in 2017.

You buy in 2015, price just starting to come down, will still be at the peak. Why you want to buy at the peak ?

bearbear, you are the one who think price will fall next year (not me). If so, do you think price will bottom out in 2015 ? Property price fall will take a few years to bottom one. Please confirm with your DDD buddy icemanfx and seek his economic advice

You are totally lost on your objective ! Wait and wait and wait for price crash. Then when price start to reduce a bit you already fast hand fast leg go an buy. Chicken not dead yet lah

If you think price will come down, wait for the price to crash to bottom only buy mah !! 2017 is the year !!

Bearbear you have reading disability ? I explain 4-5 times already.

I always maintain the 5%-10% outlook. If you believe me, why you waiting to buy in 2015 ? You should buy now.

If you think price will start to fall (which i think you believe) in 2015, why you buy at the start of the decline ? You should wait longer to buy at the bottom

As to why 2017 not 2016, that is advocated by student icemanfx and prof oswald. You gotto ask him

I think you have decided to buy in 2015, but now i ask a simple logic question you cant answer. Thats why you refuse to understand the simple logic and talk about other stuff. You now feel very stupid to buy in 2015 isn`t it ?

True also woh....

Bearbear want to hear we agree to his plan only

Ok ok bearbear at the time you buy you property sometime in 2015, it will be the lowest point. Then after you buy, your property price will increase to RM1m within one year. Then RM1.5m in the second year because of another superbull run. Ho Seh liao bearbear

Dont worry, property price drop in 2015 only. After that price will never drop again.....

bearbearwong

Last week i told you my 4 tenants terminated my rental, this week another 2. Market really very bad liao. Now i am in trouble. No tenant how to service bank loans ? I think i have to force sell my condo liao.

To make things worse, my new apt going to VP soon. This market how to find tenant ? At least 1 year going to vacant and my cost to service bank installment keep piling up. Flip also no profit liao. Banks nowadays dont lend out money easily so very difficult to find buyer. The Goodview i bought going to VP next year i sell you RM680k ok boh ? Pls help me. I cannot let my in law see me in trouble. If i kena repo by you, my wife will follow other man run

bearbearwong

bearbear, this is a very reasonable prediction ! The UUU predicted that and it fits perfectly to your plan


jolokia, you forgot to predict 2015 bearbear's land will be sold for RM800,000 per acre in 2015, and somebody will offer his SK new village land RM1.5m....

wrong.... except the student's lecturer and prof oswald. They are great guru...

bearbear, in my 20+ years experience in malaysian property, price was only 1 way up. In between, there are ups and downs. But long term, the price increase between 5%-10% pa

That's why I told you, for own stay, don't time the market. Buy when you are financially able. In 20 years time, the price will increase 2-3 times



bearbear, property is high risk investment. It has ups and downs. No one will be daring to say property price "100% sure" to increase "always/any point in time". But in long term malaysia property investment context, it has been proven price has been increasing 5%-10% pa on average



bearbear you are too "macro". Property market for individual is very localised. You only buy 1 property. But you look at the whole market indicator. Property is not like share market. When share market drop, every share drop. You cannot say the same in property market. Good property seldom drop price.

Like boss Jliew said, if you expect 5%-10% price drop, every now and then you can find such bargain already. Why wait for bubble burst ? If you really search hard enough I am sure you can find your dead chicken. If you don't mind auction property, you can always find >10% discount property.



bearbear,

You have big problems.

1. You don't know what you want
2. You don't know the difference of "own stay" and "investment"
3. You read the market too much (when you only buy 1 house out of the whole market)
4. You are stucked in the DDD"s "miss the boat syndrom" (the longer you wait, the harder you will buy)
5. Your character is undecided and easily influenced by market news
6. You job is a hazard. You become very negative and pessimistic. 1 piece of news you will interpret as the world is going to end
7. You blame the UUU and flippers as the cause of your inability of buy house (whereas they are just part of the system)
8. You hope too much the market will collapse. Until it has turned into your belief, and cannot see clearly what is the real situation

If you don't wake up, you will never buy property, even in 2015

bearbear,

If you think 10-20% price drop will happen, then the market will down further.

I ask you many times already. But you avoided answering me....

If 2015 the price start drop, do you think it will stop in 10-20% ? No, it will drop further until bottom in 2-3 years time. So, why do you want to buy in 2015 instead of 2017 ?

Boss, if you see the screen shot, bearbear's grandparent bought their 10 acre share for RM3k. That means is only RM300/acre

bearbear, ask you again....

Why you plan to buy in 2015 when you believe price will drop ? It is just beginning of the crash and you want to buy at near peak price ?

What if price never drop in 2015 ? You still buy ?

We are all here to help him mah......

bearbear can't answer my question. Because you will feel very stupid to buy in 2015

Let's say you are 100% correct. Price will start to fall next year 2015. But property price fall take long time to reach bottom. Maybe 2-3 years. So best time to buy is not in 2015, but in 2017. Why do you want to buy when the price only start to fall ?

On the other hand, let's say I am correct. Price will still increase 5%-10%. Why do you want to wait to buy in 2015 and pay 10% more ?

I have asked the same question 7 times and bearbear still cannot answer. Bearbear start to realise it is very stupid to buy in 2015...Like bro lat jiu said, balls kena squeezed by the gf + in-laws, no choice...