showtime747 you are wrong again, look at the vacant unit, if the index is one off going up or like,t you mention going 5-10% , many also aware if what you said is true again, why the transaction low?

waiting for investors to increase the price yearly by 5-10% and let the investors to profit more... if not why leave the transaction low?

no 2 ways about... it is either, they anticipated there will be drop, subsales houses are way above affordability and some cases dont feel value to money property , they are waiting investor to increase the price so that investors could profit more

in buying sub sales products those usually inflated 200k above one, there is no hurry nor rush... investors themselves will definitely not buy back these inflated properties, some forumers even mention if one miss the 1t phase, they wont even bother consider2nd phase, so for sub sales upon vp type that is after 1st , 2nd phase and completion, no investors will buy, look at the vacant units you will know..

Wow wow wow....... Dont miss interpret my msg ya....... I do bought 2nd phase project b4 ya..... as i'm unaware of the 1st phase, i miss the opportunity of 1st phase....... I says i wont buy 2nd phase or later meant that i'm aware of the project and i gave up the opportunity of 1st phase......   

And lastly and importantly....... I dont represent ALL INVESTORS....... Which u always do, using a few cases then it becomes ALL.......   

Jus like your     logic....... Everybody will flip for 200k minimum.....    

don't be fool by ppl who say " investors are not selling but keeping", they lied from the start, they forgotten they are the "investors" , even there re these group of holding investors, they either target market of NOT general affordability not falling withing 400-800k segments or those who ware holding the blue chips as per TS mention those 300k chips property, they hope more buyers to buy more and more, some 500k holder know their risk, so having 700k and 900k holder will make them more secure like what the 300k are feeling now, "don't worry what bubble, we got 500k to cover us " that is why they think there is no bubble, they still have option to profit less..

can ask Jliew 500k plus chip, Jliew right or not? amaya too was holding 450k+ chip but he got a better bargain, mature area and city center area.. but size small and HTC around..

Bro bear go gai gai la. U r spending too much time writing too long here.

lol... check few units of house around, as updated, Green residence remains the main new launch casualties on the day list with at elast 60% of 2 towers remains unsold, on the subsales causlities list, OUG parklane was next scoring 95% untenanted units, then we have Tiara Mutiara 1 as casualties scoring 80% atleast non tenanted, then sutera maya condo also another casualties with 80% at least vacant, then we have Le Yuan residence also another 80% untenanted, G residence (please refer to Clould), seringgin residence also scoring 80% untenanted..

Price got lower or not ? if not why care ? i even heard of many involved in Dark business is keeping properties in large number, they don't care a bit if it can sell or not, some rich man 2nd 3nd milks also keep a lot of properties they also don't care if vacant or not, some rich also give money to wife go buy properties, so that they don't disturb his business or his 2nd home, some rich people also keep few units as a form of saving. .you see Bear2 these groups of people don't care if vacant or not, Lastly Politician families also get some compliment unit..  

Dream on lah Bear2, Price ain't coming down no matter what you said.

You're absolutely right, bear bear
Please don't buy until 2017 will be much cheaper.

Seriously I'm not sure if you're naive or plain stu.... 

If everyone having the same mindset as yours, there'll be no flipper nor investor exists..

this is very controversil, once question deeper, all gone, aside from that of course there are strong holding ppl /groups, but given the current climate starts with 500k high rise above, even strong investors could be credit locked to hold longer and could risk paying more without tenant making a loss..

not to mention the bursting of bubble in highrise product are so imminent, Desa park? high rise? lot of purchases by rich ppl in MK, Bangsar and thiose expensive areas are from developers sales, even rich ppl buying also from developers, developers still holding units in MK areas..

true, provided the price now are being taken, otherwise increasing the price further will have more buyers one?

buyers are may think like what flippers or even better, why should I pay for such an inflated price and on top still increased yearly when there is no demand for such?

sellers can hold (if the represent the large numbers) , but still will end losing to the banks, OPR are not born constant, they tend to go up like property price to be in tandem, otherwise where got challenge right? as mention again, more years to come, more projects launched, without DIBS, some BTS concept, some smaller size, some future price, investors knows the heading of those price... 

60-20 = 40
Anyway since it is a little bit to difficult to follow for you and you result to other tactics: 

why keep asking people where they invest? prop is not necessary for invest. and not everyone is unique like you, no prop but shout like prop guru.  

Like this property segments btw 400k to 800k can hold long long scaring investors.. reverse physiology.. good

Bro bear need more time to type in lyn. He pmed me he gotten 2 more days annual leave. So today tomolo oso sibeh stress.

Reality is cruel la. Dun stay in dreamland. U ll nvr succeed with sweet dreams

Wah....today I only know bank officer all corrupt one....all take under table to approve loan if no document n income not enough. All no need to follow procedure n the approving sop all no need to follow. The approving officer also blind n signed blindly. Bbw, u sure or not with your defamatory claims on bank officers???

Can I say that repoman also take undertable not to repo the properties? Thus why repoman always claim got side income but relate it to bird nest....

cannot one meh? some also have 5xx cool only what?

why say like that, it is because you support this, the flipping never stops, they are upgrading... but never the less, price segments are moving away from valuation, how to market their units? banks not giving loans...

ok since you have bought one..  can mention where is your invested properties? we not going to eat you or humiliate you, BBB's we dont know..

bro now landed segments are 600k to 900k after factoring 200k, so 2 years ago around 400k to 700k segments, you miss this segments? good view heights got 723k that day what?

semenyih still got below 650k, ask the investors/homeowners in SEH threads, they say their project surely got ppl stay one.. got miss meh?

if more than 2 years, 3-4 years ago, below 500k very good landed can get.. in fact, palm walk 3 was selling 550k, BMC areas are selling 450k new launch some 2011 ago, and you miss? ppl are gauging your financial standpoint..

even now sub sales landed still below 800k still a lot? you can afford but think like me, don't want to benefit flippers? 

20 years... if these LYN members are 20 years to hold highrise, they are fully cooked lor.. 20 years high rise surely old.. price stops then, think 5 years after, no agents will be interested to sell your old units..

so many new launch and nicer facade... not to mention older units are old and same time also pricey, owners self call price

u share with those 5xxk lar.

appreciative & Man U, is this period a good time to to properties? Investors opt to hold or cash out?