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 Multiple Signs of Malaysia Property Bubble V12, Areas Klang valley & Johor

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SUSjolokia
post Oct 19 2014, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 19 2014, 11:00 AM)
but this is what the reality is out there... if ppl are holding back purchase till next year, well and good, investors hold longer still sell and profit, fear was the prices are all over their ability, and they are ignoring these price range 400k to 800k, and most 500k above high rise and landed.

next year will be a clear picture of the property market consumption, new launch may still break the record, the subsales will how? 3 more months to go, it is eihter high price for ppl to buy before GST or could be lower before GST, looks like now since transaction is so low (agents can confirm the best), buyers rae not interested on the current price, thus demand (not mere wish to buy) do not support.

bank are not playing along with you guys, they reject manyak loans, dunno what they are doing...
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This all your own assumption of market only, i apply for loan recently all approved, some more offer lower that normal rate, if people earn 5.5K still dare to apply 729K property sure rejected lah...lol

Try call those hot property & see you can easily grab one or not ?

Don't dream lah ! Once GST kick in everything also up you think owner gong2 meh sure they will take golden opportunity as Developer expected to further hike new launching price, secondary will follow suite, for hot area even higher hike.

Go see the OUG Parklane buyer base on race, 95% are Chinese, that why i told you ignore those statistics base what you call Malai average income, average salary increase, go take urban Chinese high income group & see.

I know one fellow who is quite a rich professional, he don't sapu expensive properties though he can afford easily few millions high end properties, instead he target below 500 tokens unit & he sapu in bulk, he will sapu 5-6 units at one go, he told me these price range very easy to let go as have more buyer compare to holding million riggit unit, he told me he earn more from flipping property than his job..lol

Now you see or not those who buy 300 tokens unit doesn't mean their income is that category, they could be some sibeh strong financial fellow who bulk purchase & keep it to flip, they can flip some & keep some, increase price each unit as they like, they don't care if it is vacant or not.

You go check which property sell lower than 2014 price ? You end up as loser for sure.
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post Oct 19 2014, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Jliew168 @ Oct 19 2014, 11:28 AM)
Is not buyer holding back but is buyer no money buy...buyer cannot afford. This is big difference..,

Most people earn proton salary but wanna drive BMW.

Cannot afford BMW die die tell people he is naturalist take bicycle to work. This is sour grape group.

Don't say don't not lend money, just that person not qualified
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Latuk Liew. I tell u frankly. I test drive Ferrari. But I dont like that car. The performance not up to my standard. I am patriotic n I support proton.

I went see bungalow in hartamas. So big but lousy design. I still prefer a walk up 5th floor apartment which can force me do daily exercise. Moreover neighbours are very nice n down to earth.

that's the reason most of my friends also don't drive ferrari n live in those lousy luxurious bungalows. brows.gif
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post Oct 19 2014, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(Jliew168 @ Oct 19 2014, 11:28 AM)
Is not buyer holding back but is buyer no money buy...buyer cannot afford. This is big difference..,

Most people earn proton salary but wanna drive BMW.

Cannot afford BMW die die tell people he is naturalist take bicycle to work. This is sour grape group.

Don't say don't not lend money, just that person not qualified
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To add in a bit.

These people use to can afford BMW but they wait & wait, then their money shrinked can only afford Camry, still wanna wait then shrinked again now can only afford Vios, later they will need to line up waiting for Perodua & Proton..lol

My self had lose a golden chance to buy a landed though i am financial ready in 2012 like Bear2 i also Gei kian gamble price will go down now the price surge 50% within 2 years & already too tight budget for me, that Vios now becomes Camry in 2 years.

I take that as a lessons in life, Bear2 i am sure Green Terrain also a lessons for you.
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post Oct 19 2014, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Oct 19 2014, 11:44 AM)
To add in a bit.

These people use to can afford BMW but they wait & wait, then their money shrinked can only afford Camry, still wanna wait then shrinked again now can only afford Vios, later they will need to line up waiting for Perodua & Proton..lol

My self had lose a golden chance to buy a landed though i am financial ready in 2012 like Bear2 i also Gei kian gamble price will go down now the price surge 50% within 2 years & already too tight budget for me, that Vios now becomes Camry in 2 years.

I take that as a lessons in life, Bear2 i am sure Green Terrain also a lessons for you.
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post Oct 19 2014, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Oct 19 2014, 11:48 AM)
Lansli I found a new med for u. Call me when free. 0123456789.

I jinsim wanna help u. Anw remember to go for lunch then take med ya.
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According to Toon Bear2 we owner after buying property keep vacant very poor fags one mah.

I go Klinik 1 Malaysia line up take medicine, later i go see got soup kitchen give free food or not, if not i drink sky juice to tahan hunger...lol

Where go like Bear2 weekend go eat German Pork Knuckle & Spanish Roast Pork (Sorry ah non halal jokes), i become Vegetarian also because no moneys to eat meat.. cry.gif

This post has been edited by jolokia: Oct 19 2014, 11:58 AM
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post Oct 19 2014, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 19 2014, 10:37 AM)
not yet, and as mentioned I have no power to sell.
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But you call price so high, together with other flippers you all call price push high high. And market have to accept the price and force others to buy expensive.

You call price RM700k per acre, RM600k for small chinese new village land, that is ridiculous price and push the whole market high high. All because you are flippers and cause genuine homebuyer suffer.

The student will say "bearbear and flippers go yak si !"
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Oct 19 2014, 11:44 AM)
To add in a bit.

These people use to can afford BMW but they wait & wait, then their money shrinked can only afford Camry, still wanna wait then shrinked again now can only afford Vios, later they will need to line up waiting for Perodua & Proton..lol

My self had lose a golden chance to buy a landed though i am financial ready in 2012 like Bear2 i also Gei kian gamble price will go down now the price surge 50% within 2 years & already too tight budget for me, that Vios now becomes Camry in 2 years.

I take that as a lessons in life, Bear2 i am sure Green Terrain also a lessons for you.
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That is 2012.. the results showed a different.. even showtime 747 mention bull over di..vacant units.. inflation.. it is over.. stagnatity already hit property.. those saying turtle up only making themselves happy only

next year is not far.. the property will still be under radar.. and goingvto buy jointly..
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post Oct 19 2014, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Oct 19 2014, 11:34 AM)
Latuk Liew. I tell u frankly. I test drive Ferrari. But I dont like that car. The performance not up to my standard. I am patriotic n I support proton.

I went see bungalow in hartamas. So big but lousy design. I still prefer a walk up 5th floor apartment which can force me do daily exercise. Moreover neighbours are very nice n down to earth.

that's the reason most of my friends also don't drive ferrari n live in those lousy luxurious bungalows. brows.gif
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Tiger boss don't call me latuk, i don't have grandchildren yet tongue.gif

Luckily u tell, I believe u. We r same kind of person..

I tell others why I like national car as well but no one believe me.luckily we in same boat.

Last time I have Italian gf and we have a sad memory..I swear I don't wan buy any product from Italy from that day we broken. tongue.gif ..I hate Ferrari


Doctor say I need to exercise but can't too much so I Purpostly buy 3rd floor walk up apartment force myself to exercise. 5th too high for me brows.gif

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post Oct 19 2014, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 19 2014, 12:04 PM)
That is 2012.. the results showed a different.. even showtime 747 mention bull over di..vacant units.. inflation.. it is over.. stagnatity already hit property.. those saying turtle up only making themselves happy only

next year is not far.. the property will still be under radar.. and goingvto buy jointly..
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I said bull over not meaning crash or stagnant lah. I said those 30%-50% pa price increase is over. Now back to normal 5%-10%

Buy lah, you wait then got more bad news to come to confuse you. Then you wait another year.....then another year....then another year until your gf run away tongue.gif
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post Oct 19 2014, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 19 2014, 12:04 PM)
That is 2012.. the results showed a different.. even showtime 747 mention bull over di..vacant units.. inflation.. it is over.. stagnatity already hit property.. those saying turtle up only making themselves happy only

next year is not far.. the property will still be under radar.. and goingvto buy jointly..
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In 2012 I think people also give a same debate....Even in 2008-2012 many already start talking crash.

Sincere advise don't buy jointly before married ...
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post Oct 19 2014, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Oct 19 2014, 12:08 PM)
I said bull over not meaning crash or stagnant lah. I said those 30%-50% pa price increase is over. Now back to normal 5%-10%

Buy lah, you wait then got more bad news to come to confuse you. Then you wait another year.....then another year....then another year until your gf run away  tongue.gif
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I have strong feeling that property will at record high again next year and gap between rich n poor will become wider n wider.goverment almost pok Kai already and slowly reducing subsidy and increase revenue thru many form of taxes..
Fuel price increase, subsidy reduce plus GST chain effect no way will lower down production cost..
I hope my prediction is wrong as rather wish property market increase in slow n steady pace..


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post Oct 19 2014, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Oct 19 2014, 11:27 AM)
Bro bear I place a bet with u. After gst the up up and away effect 'll b felt immediately eg. Within 6 mths. Then overall prop market 'll Onli heading north at least till end 2017. Another adjustment in 2018.

RM 1k ok ar??? U hav 3 yrs to find a cave in case u lose. I 'll b here waiting if I lose. Liddat ho seh boh???
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I can bet 10k. Prop price up with gst.
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post Oct 19 2014, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(Jliew168 @ Oct 19 2014, 12:09 PM)
In 2012 I think people also give a same debate....Even in 2008-2012  many already start talking crash.

Sincere advise don't buy jointly before married ...
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GF earn more than him mah, until GF sister see their sister get a low income guy, they offer him chance to chip in for birdnest business.. haizz

With 5.5K income what can he buy ? 400'K aleady his max lah, extra mileage claim not recognized mah..

Ok bear i give u second example, recently i bought a unit of highrise, i end up paying 10% more compared to 6 months ago, same thing i can afford back then, but i look2 see2, thinking2 & wait, that 10% is enough for me to pay all legal & SnP fees plus renovation, Showtime tell you 5-10% i will tell you 10% every 6 months more likely.


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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Oct 19 2014, 12:08 PM)
I said bull over not meaning crash or stagnant lah. I said those 30%-50% pa price increase is over. Now back to normal 5%-10%

Buy lah, you wait then got more bad news to come to confuse you. Then you wait another year.....then another year....then another year until your gf run away  tongue.gif
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Gf pmed me again last nite............. doh.gif
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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Oct 19 2014, 11:34 AM)
Latuk Liew. I tell u frankly. I test drive Ferrari. But I dont like that car. The performance not up to my standard. I am patriotic n I support proton.

I went see bungalow in hartamas. So big but lousy design. I still prefer a walk up 5th floor apartment which can force me do daily exercise. Moreover neighbours are very nice n down to earth.

that's the reason most of my friends also don't drive ferrari n live in those lousy luxurious bungalows. brows.gif
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QUOTE(Jliew168 @ Oct 19 2014, 12:05 PM)
Tiger boss don't call me latuk, i don't have grandchildren yet  tongue.gif

Luckily u tell, I believe u. We r same kind of person..

I tell others why I like national car as well but no one believe me.luckily we in same boat.

Last time I have Italian gf and we have a sad memory..I swear I don't wan buy any product from Italy from that day we broken. tongue.gif ..I hate Ferrari
Doctor say I need to exercise but can't too much so I Purpostly buy 3rd floor walk up apartment force myself to exercise. 5th too high for me brows.gif
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But.......... I realize staying in a double storey landed can make u exercise more woh..... tongue.gif tongue.gif
A day at home..... up down the stairs can be 10 times or more....... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 19 2014, 11:00 AM)
but this is what the reality is out there... if ppl are holding back purchase till next year, well and good, investors hold longer still sell and profit, fear was the prices are all over their ability, and they are ignoring these price range 400k to 800k, and most 500k above high rise and landed.

next year will be a clear picture of the property market consumption, new launch may still break the record, the subsales will how? 3 more months to go, it is eihter high price for ppl to buy before GST or could be lower before GST, looks like now since transaction is so low (agents can confirm the best), buyers rae not interested on the current price, thus demand (not mere wish to buy) do not support.

bank are not playing along with you guys, they reject manyak loans, dunno what they are doing...
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U think bank dont want biz, rejecting biz now??..... doh.gif doh.gif
If u hav strong financial and been good pay master..... u think bank still reject u?...... I bet banks will start offering their best package in town..... tongue.gif tongue.gif
So what they are doing is more of securing more quality loans..... Not over stretched investors..... Which i think left, think right, think up, think down, think front, think back...... i can only think its good for the market leh....... whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Oct 19 2014, 12:38 PM)
But.......... I realize staying in a double storey landed can make u exercise more woh.....  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
A day at home..... up down the stairs can be 10 times or more.......  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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But.....hor.....my wife say ah just we 2 person stay in double storey landed ahh very lonely..
She can't stand with outsider hence I can't get a maid ..
So I just stay in walk up apartment la because I love my wife don't want her do so much...
If want exercise I just go down n go up more la..can talk with friendly neighbour somemore tongue.gif tongue.gif


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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Oct 19 2014, 11:48 AM)
Lansli I found a new med for u. Call me when free. 0123456789.

I jinsim wanna help u. Anw remember to go for lunch then take med ya.
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2 latuk now. Mau kopi? Any other? How bout cigarete? Fruits?
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 19 2014, 04:36 AM)
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Dont use the same pattern for both acct la........ doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 19 2014, 08:17 AM)
icemen join d group back, no one isblamming you,
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u sound pathetic........ tongue.gif tongue.gif
u also think he dont want to join force with u already??..... brows.gif brows.gif

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