Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed
11 Pages « < 5 6 7 8 9 > » Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Multiple Signs of Malaysia Property Bubble V12, Areas Klang valley & Johor

views
     
SUSjolokia
post Oct 27 2014, 07:53 PM

So Hot It Burns..!!!
*******
Senior Member
3,274 posts

Joined: May 2013


QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Oct 27 2014, 07:30 PM)
bearbearwong

bearbear, this is a very reasonable prediction ! The UUU predicted that and it fits perfectly to your plan  thumbup.gif  rclxms.gif
jolokia, you forgot to predict 2015 bearbear's land will be sold for RM800,000 per acre in 2015, and somebody will offer his SK new village land RM1.5m....
*
Lu ki siao boh ?

800K ? 1M per acre also Bear2 boh hiew you.

Bear2 not selling his Sri Kembangan New Village land lah, his Uncle from UK will come back open Fine Dining Restaurant there, then Iceman can rent a stall there selling Ice Cream, donno he will consider cham me play or not, better start bodeh him from now, later can tumpang open one Jolokia Car Jockey service there.

This post has been edited by jolokia: Oct 27 2014, 07:54 PM
SUSjolokia
post Oct 27 2014, 08:33 PM

So Hot It Burns..!!!
*******
Senior Member
3,274 posts

Joined: May 2013


QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Oct 27 2014, 07:47 PM)
Wait wait wait! I don't have Bangalow in tropicana leh
*
NVM lah, figuratively speaking only, i also don't have DBKL flat.
SUSjolokia
post Oct 27 2014, 08:50 PM

So Hot It Burns..!!!
*******
Senior Member
3,274 posts

Joined: May 2013


QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 27 2014, 08:33 PM)
tell us the project name, why need to see title all, Jolokia sked later ppl rob , you no scare one?
*
Ngai hao kiang oh.. cry.gif

SUSjolokia
post Oct 28 2014, 09:30 AM

So Hot It Burns..!!!
*******
Senior Member
3,274 posts

Joined: May 2013


QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Oct 28 2014, 08:11 AM)
bearbear, in my 20+ years experience in malaysian property, price was only 1 way up. In between, there are ups and downs. But long term, the price increase between 5%-10% pa

That's why I told you, for own stay, don't time the market. Buy when you are financially able. In 20 years time, the price will increase 2-3 times 
bearbear, property is high risk investment. It has ups and downs. No one will be daring to say property price "100% sure" to increase "always/any point in time". But in long term malaysia property investment context, it has been proven price has been increasing 5%-10% pa on average
bearbear you are too "macro". Property market for individual is very localised. You only buy 1 property. But you look at the whole market indicator. Property is not like share market. When share market drop, every share drop. You cannot say the same in property market. Good property seldom drop price.

Like boss Jliew said, if you expect 5%-10% price drop, every now and then you can find such bargain already. Why wait for bubble burst ? If you really search hard enough I am sure you can find your dead chicken. If you don't mind auction property, you can always find >10% discount property.
bearbear,

You have big problems.

1. You don't know what you want
2. You don't know the difference of "own stay" and "investment"
3. You read the market too much (when you only buy 1 house out of the whole market)
4. You are stucked in the DDD"s "miss the boat syndrom" (the longer you wait, the harder you will buy)
5. Your character is undecided and easily influenced by market news
6. You job is a hazard. You become very negative and pessimistic. 1 piece of news you will interpret as the world is going to end
7. You blame the UUU and flippers as the cause of your inability of buy house (whereas they are just part of the system)
8. You hope too much the market will collapse. Until it has turned into your belief, and cannot see clearly what is the real situation

If you don't wake up, you will never buy property, even in 2015
*
1.) He know what he want - Problem is he can't afford what he want, which is why he everyday curse price to crash & looking way to sucker his family member sponsoring him.
2.) He want house price go up & down according to his momentum, when he buy price must be at lowest, when he sell price must be at highest.
3.) He buy 1 house but more demanding then people buying whole block, in fact people who buy in bulk to cannot control the market.
4.) He thought house are like car, the longer he wait the lowest the residue value.
5.) He have no choice but to believe in fairy tales now, same like greedy people are easiest to con.
6.) People use their job to advantage, he use his job as disadvantage.
7.) He forgot he also want to flip his PAMA land to max, while he expect people sell house to him at min.
8.) What else he have but self imagination ? No Money, No Sponsor, Need to get married soon, pressure building up every weekend & holiday, time not to his advantange.. cry.gif

He can still afford some like OUG Parklane & One South, Suria Residence now, if he wait till end of next year those will againn beyond his affordability by then, problem is he already open his Big Mouth, now cannot retract his word, in fact i would even says he get himself a GF which he can't afford, which girl earn 8K wanna married guy who can only afford 4.5K income standard property, i don't blame the girl.

Bear2 in conclusion, your always dream big but no effort been done to achieve it, you wait for money drop from sky, you wait for family member to sponsor you, who wait for price go your way, in short you are a loser.
SUSjolokia
post Oct 28 2014, 12:28 PM

So Hot It Burns..!!!
*******
Senior Member
3,274 posts

Joined: May 2013


QUOTE(a13solut3 @ Oct 28 2014, 11:49 AM)
When it's being open for sale, the SPA is RM920k+.

I got it discounted at RM700k+.

Last I heard, the bumiputra lot released to international is valued at 1.3m and the bumiputra lot is SOLD afaik.

Maybe I see wrong house model as I didn't glance properly though lel.
*
Are U new here ?

In this thread TS @ Bear2 Wong only allowed people show "Failed Investment" why are you showing him Successful Investment ?

Never read thread. rules ah ? Later you kena left right don't says we never warned you.
SUSjolokia
post Oct 28 2014, 06:19 PM

So Hot It Burns..!!!
*******
Senior Member
3,274 posts

Joined: May 2013


QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Oct 28 2014, 02:17 PM)
Lately bbw getting more weak.... more depress..... more emotion liao........ cannot tahan continuous bombard already......
In real life already so depress and pressured.... Suppose to come here release or throw fustration..... end up pick up even more pressure...............  sad.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif
*
Agreed rclxms.gif Bear2 under intense pressure, GF sister want him to prove his ability before letting their sister marrying him, now Bear2 try to Pok Shui (Looking for Monee @ Sponsor), He try to get GF to agree to OUG parklane & Parc One South but kena reject, OUG Parklane too high density & Chap Palang, One South too close to Highway, Suria Residence typical student hostel, Bear2 time running out, GF leaving him any time soon. cool2.gif

QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 28 2014, 04:10 PM)
u sure or not? u many times learn many things in kopitiam
*
Very sure, looking at how deperado your are, symptom of burn out.

QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Oct 28 2014, 04:26 PM)
Bear bear, whn wan to buy?
*
$Moolah$ No Enough cry.gif

This post has been edited by jolokia: Oct 28 2014, 06:20 PM
SUSjolokia
post Oct 28 2014, 08:10 PM

So Hot It Burns..!!!
*******
Senior Member
3,274 posts

Joined: May 2013


QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Oct 28 2014, 07:16 PM)
bearbear can't answer my question. Because you will feel very stupid to buy in 2015  tongue.gif
*
No choice either he buy next year or GF says bye2 to him or shall i says Loaded In Law bye2 to him, die2 must buy, but now he really dilemma, those he can afford GF don't want, those GF want he can't afford, GF also not chipping in, ask him to buy & put her name, but loan Bear2 kaotim, with 4.5K salary how to please 8K income GF ? Now he got new ideas, ask PAMA & Sister to chips in, buy first but he & GF lives inside, later when he sales only shares the profit, knowing him where got money to buy another one, Sibeh cunning fellow.

QUOTE(bcpbeancounter @ Oct 28 2014, 07:21 PM)
You mean this prop is beyond your reach. So dont care how much people flip right?
*
What hw can't afford he don't bash, over 1M not his playground lah, that why he only target Jliew 500 tokens Midfiels2 to walap.

QUOTE(Jliew168 @ Oct 28 2014, 07:38 PM)
All dddd mou yi hei
*
Crazy meh ! He is like street crossing rat now, every thread also kena laugh at, who dares to align with him.
SUSjolokia
post Oct 28 2014, 09:44 PM

So Hot It Burns..!!!
*******
Senior Member
3,274 posts

Joined: May 2013


QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 28 2014, 09:12 PM)
harrr... all but nth related to the topic... well, it is quite common these days, running out of ideas it seems
*
Related lah, there are various reason why people cannot wait till price bottomed then buy house mah, that's why house price never drop loh, when you need it mean uou have to pay the price loh, like you need to get married next year die2 must buy loh, if next year increase somemore yiu still need to pay right ? cannot delayed till 2017 or 2018 which showtime predict will bottomed, like even shopping mall charge you RM1 to use their toilet you also had to pay right ? cannot tahan till find feee toilet outside mah.

Anyway how's my wild guess ? Quite accurate right ? Bear2 if you ask us in humble manner &be truthful to us we teach you how to overcome this dilemma.


QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Oct 28 2014, 09:26 PM)
Let's say you are 100% correct. Price will start to fall next year 2015. But property price fall take long time to reach bottom. Maybe 2-3 years. So best time to buy is not in 2015, but in 2017. Why do you want to buy when the price only start to fall ?

On the other hand, let's say I am correct. Price will still increase 5%-10%. Why do you want to wait to buy in 2015 and pay 10% more ?

I have asked the same question 7 times and bearbear still cannot answer. Bearbear start to realise it is very stupid to buy in 2015...Like bro lat jiu said, balls kena squeezed by the gf + in-laws, no choice...  brows.gif
*
Waaa i simply bantai only woh, but looking at Bear2 response, i think i hit the bulleyes liao..hehe
SUSjolokia
post Oct 28 2014, 10:48 PM

So Hot It Burns..!!!
*******
Senior Member
3,274 posts

Joined: May 2013


QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 28 2014, 10:10 PM)
I dont expect my self to have bought a property at the lowest price , discounted with 10-20% would be good..

just learn sth, this particular project Hua Yang S&P was 370k, as per threads too, only selling less than 100k gross profit, with some kena RPGT

check their threads and see
*
Sochai, HY give 10% rebate one oh, meaning like zero entry, so 100K is buta2 earn, imagine 10% rebate DIBS now upon VP earn 100K still not happy meh ?

So an yong ? Liang Moi Dao Gao Ng Tiam hail mao ? Mao qian meh mai san si bah cheng e loh, you mao qian you ai meang zhi, chi bat qian gong si ni eh o.. Tai Ling Ngong. .Haizzzz

This post has been edited by jolokia: Oct 28 2014, 10:52 PM
SUSjolokia
post Oct 30 2014, 09:01 AM

So Hot It Burns..!!!
*******
Senior Member
3,274 posts

Joined: May 2013


QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 30 2014, 08:54 AM)
No worry 10 to 20 is good enough for me..it drops further or not you investors thpught about it..
*
Don't dream lah Bear2, eg Parc One South selling 400K now you think price will be 320K or not ? Cheaper than SnP price or OUG Parklane 320K which owner take home 20K, Lu got logic boh ? so you mean Goodview will sell 582K next year ah, buyer deliberately burn 150K buying & selling.

Don't dream lah, You will end up paying 20% more whistling.gif

If i were the owner i would just hold till price go up, who in the right mind would sell their property lower than SnP, eventually your GF will give you ultimatum, either you buy house or she get someone else buy for her, then bye2, see who can wait ? cool2.gif
SUSjolokia
post Oct 30 2014, 09:24 AM

So Hot It Burns..!!!
*******
Senior Member
3,274 posts

Joined: May 2013


QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 30 2014, 09:09 AM)
Stop trolling.. I have make my stand clear.. correction occurs from asking price not the original purchase price..

if you are an owner capable of holding.. dun too worry my gf and etc..
*
Isn't the 400K price i stated is current asking price in iproperty, but you demand 20% lower which is 320K, correct ?

400K -20% = 320K isn't it ? But these property SnP price is 300 - 340K, isn't you ask them to sell to you below their Sn P price.

Who's trolling ?



I am not worrying your GF, as she can alway get herself another better man who can buy for her, is you that i more worry.. tongue.gif

You max capacity now is 400K, if next year end price go up to 480K, again you missed the boat & probably your partner too.

If you have a lawyer daughter earning 8K/mth would you let her married a fellow who can't even afford a basic home for her ? i am sure your in law would have same thinking isn't it ?

Same mentality, assume you finally bought a Goodeview 750K next year, then by 2016 would you sell to me 600K ? No way right ? so what price you not willing to sell , you expect other would ?

This post has been edited by jolokia: Oct 30 2014, 09:36 AM
SUSjolokia
post Oct 30 2014, 09:36 AM

So Hot It Burns..!!!
*******
Senior Member
3,274 posts

Joined: May 2013


QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 30 2014, 09:23 AM)
A man which is married and stays studio.. with wife talk like this...

owayls sth not related to bubble or property and goes on viral with that..

grown up man in malaysia .. haizzz
*
My Granpa era, married stay in rented room till few children, now can or not ?

You must see mah ! If you GF only 3/10 earning 1-2K maybe she have limited choice loh, but yours 8K income lawyer woh !

I believe you are the only one here yet to grown up, you have 15yo mentality.

Your GF sister & future in law now evaluating you now, maybe you still not aware. brows.gif


SUSjolokia
post Oct 30 2014, 12:16 PM

So Hot It Burns..!!!
*******
Senior Member
3,274 posts

Joined: May 2013


QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 30 2014, 09:42 AM)
Oug parklane development is popular, VP this year, believed is a good benchmark and could be the tipping point for subsale market
*
It's a mass supplied project, but location nice, doubt it would be tipping point, many hope so but KL area almost impossible to flop, if Bangi Southville maybe, Location bros location.

Like u sell ice cream surely area like Mid Valley Business very good right ? wink.gif
SUSjolokia
post Oct 30 2014, 02:05 PM

So Hot It Burns..!!!
*******
Senior Member
3,274 posts

Joined: May 2013


QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 30 2014, 01:07 PM)
so now one south how?  bad investment or price started to drop?

you almost open all the gates with example of market DDD rather than BBB, the last was extraction of Chang & siva statement, then your 1/3 salary which shocked most BBB

got sumroe savannah at southville also many units available 3500 units all together bangi areas, UEM also got their projects too further behind bandar bukit mahkota areas... googogogo
*
Most important question, Price got drop or not ? you get any dead chicken price property or not ?

Zero entry project, VP straight 100K into pocket not happy ah ?

Don't bother project which you have no intention to buy, zero in on what you wanna buy.

I know you are not happy with current scenario, but instead of letting go fruss & posting nonsense here why not call more agent & compare which give you best deal.

If you think One South Good buy call the agent, bring GF to see the unit, like it buy don't like it move on, don't waste time, posting here will not reduce the price.

BTW don't rely on Propwall number along, some might be different floor unit or different size unit, or facing different view, the one lower price might be less desirable unit, anyway Propwall to never provide evidence that why they got the data from, like Male Y DNA not necessary from Axxx .. laugh.gif
SUSjolokia
post Oct 30 2014, 02:06 PM

So Hot It Burns..!!!
*******
Senior Member
3,274 posts

Joined: May 2013


QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 30 2014, 01:45 PM)
Govt revises gas price for non-power sector W.E.F November 1 2014

super inflation coming in, 

The rate hike will, among others, impact cement manufacturers, steel producers and glove makers.

The scheduled rate hike would take effect from Nov 1, under a tariff revision approved by the Government, Gas Malaysia Bhd said in an announcement.


http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...from/?style=biz
*
Hoho kao liao, Property price skyrocket next year.. rclxms.gif
SUSjolokia
post Oct 30 2014, 02:19 PM

So Hot It Burns..!!!
*******
Senior Member
3,274 posts

Joined: May 2013


QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Oct 30 2014, 02:12 PM)
I'm sending out notice for increment in rental wef 1.1.15. CBHSL
*
Bear2 also sent notice to increase sub rental rate for his relative renting room from him. laugh.gif
QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Oct 30 2014, 02:13 PM)
pre weekend, weekend, post weekend mood always no good..... KNN.... 1 week only 2-3 day better mood ah.......  wacko.gif  wacko.gif  wacko.gif
*
Monday - Mood no good kena walap kao2 by GF, In law on weekend.
Tuesday - Mood slight better but still some residue fruss.
Wednesday - Mood good as can breath a bit.
Thursday - Mood drop abit coz weekend approaching.
Friday - Mood turning bad as night time pressure come

Saturday, Sunday, Public Holiday - Ki Siao liao. rclxub.gif
SUSjolokia
post Oct 30 2014, 06:15 PM

So Hot It Burns..!!!
*******
Senior Member
3,274 posts

Joined: May 2013


QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 30 2014, 03:45 PM)
now talking more like a man, hope you are not just young couple living in studios, i don't see a trend of older generations staying in studio, it was never meant to degrade like the herd do, the way to speech matters

if the property market is really using 1/3 rule of thumb, which the abuse it by maximizing credit before 70% DSR 2013(even this is not realistic), these BBB will jump, especially Jolokia.. how to salvage 400k to 800k.. properties..
*
Why you look down on people stay in studio ? Better then no house right ? wink.gif

1/3 is rule of thumb for people buying for own stay like you, getting married soon (i hope), as your self can you live with 30% of your salary alone ? your income is like 5-6K these type of income 1/3 rule is correct, some people might have other source of undeclared income so 70 DSR is no problem to them, but not you.

I toiler my advise to you so don't take it as general.



QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 30 2014, 03:46 PM)
one south is Jolokia trying to troll 20% drop will drop below ori price but did not notice it was a bad investment to begin with if he uses this example..

just for the sake of trolling, btw google is very friendly, just type one south there you go
*
How can it be bad investment ? Zero DP, upon VP 100K drop from sky, you call that bad investment ah ?

I believe the area price will go up quite fast, since its very convenient especially later when One South Mall, Cube come up, even renting game is good as many foreign student, just look at Fortune Park & East Lake, good capital gain & rental collection, other part of Serdang/SK hard to get such price.

Aiyah you talk3 me hand ichy2 interest tim, maybe i call agent go look see2.. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 30 2014, 03:48 PM)
so it seems you still choose to be non grown mode, ask your kids and younger nice and see your attitude, it helps you to think out of the box, so far, your previous record cannot be redeemed.. rclxms.gif
*
A childish person s one who afraid to be responsible, look at the mirror you see one.. tongue.gif

QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 30 2014, 05:41 PM)
lol slip banana must be jolokia put one, he no put chili
*
Now this very grown up comment is it ? whistling.gif

This post has been edited by jolokia: Oct 30 2014, 06:33 PM
SUSjolokia
post Oct 30 2014, 06:19 PM

So Hot It Burns..!!!
*******
Senior Member
3,274 posts

Joined: May 2013


QUOTE(bcpbeancounter @ Oct 30 2014, 03:16 PM)
Bear bear now is aiming for 1 south? Where is this? Price?
*
Next to the Mint Hotel (Novelle Hotel), 400K up 1021sf (Leasehold).
SUSjolokia
post Oct 30 2014, 07:14 PM

So Hot It Burns..!!!
*******
Senior Member
3,274 posts

Joined: May 2013


QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Oct 30 2014, 07:00 PM)
What if the price never fall in 2015 ? Will you still buy ?
*
He will delayed again, then GF says bye2 to him.

My predictions market price will go up
another 15% by end of next year.

But if really go down 20%, i sibeh happy to buy another unit, imagine One South at 320K, Green Terrain 440K, Greenview 360K, rclxms.gif
SUSjolokia
post Oct 30 2014, 08:15 PM

So Hot It Burns..!!!
*******
Senior Member
3,274 posts

Joined: May 2013


QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 30 2014, 07:34 PM)
What were the reasons for price to tripled in 5-6 years?
*
What's the reason you go sell ice cream ? Got special discount for us or not ? tongue.gif

Economy stable, low interest, people have spared money, trend around the world, World no.1 economy is China, so the rest of the world follow their trends, property/land bank investment has been in China for thousands of years.

QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 30 2014, 07:38 PM)
It need not economic collapse or recession for property bubble to burst. Residential property is unproductive and none value adding, property price could collapsed under it's own weight.
*
Property is a necessity, unlike gold & share one can live without, like it or not you need to lived under shelter, be it rent or buy even tumpang, unless you wanna be a hobo...lol

Quite sure your lecturer would have teach you Abraham Maslow Hierarchy of Need, where Property fall under safety which is 2nd most important after basic like Food & Water.

So how can you says unproductive & no value adding ? in fact property value added every few months..kakaka

Which lecturer you know off or famous economy expert live under bridge ? ...

How ice creams business ? Ok ? good luck.


11 Pages « < 5 6 7 8 9 > » Top
Topic ClosedOptions
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0455sec    0.92    7 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 12th December 2025 - 08:08 AM