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 ★★★ LYN PROTON WAJA Club - V16 ★★★ By KilleRom, Where Waja owners and EX-Wajarian unites

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post Jan 6 2015, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(Amuse_S2000 @ Jan 5 2015, 01:32 AM)
Hi all brothers, I'm planning to upgrade my car to a 2nd hand Waja 4g18 Manual, anything I need to pay extra attention to? Eg: More expensive wear & tear parts. PS: I'm currently driving an old iswara 1.3 which I enjoy the driving feel of it very much, the throttle responce and seating position is much much better than the new SAGA FLX. That's why I don't go for SAGA FLX, but I'm looking for a suitable upgrade. Is waja a suitable upgrade? In terms of driving feel/pleasure.
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suitable upgrade is whichever car that suits your budget.
i think you can get a nice perdana v6 for around rm15k nowadays. just saying la. if you arent into aggressive driving.
its quiet and big. still respectable.

QUOTE(walkmanphone @ Jan 5 2015, 07:42 PM)
I think this car worth for the spaciousness,practicality and stability. When I was a student, I was driving an old iswara 1.5 auto and its torturing as it has only 3 speed.Not only that, the fuel consumption is bad,underpowered, radio not working,this and that until I changed to Waja. Although it isn't a fancy car and sometimes get looked down, I must say I am very satisfied with the car. Spare parts are cheap as compared to many other cars. Fixed the typical Waja issue by changing all 4 power window regulator to metal. Later change the stock rim(195/55/15) to less width rim(185/65/15) and the car feels much lighter,FC and pickup became better but still lose out to many cars out there. In the end, I am still convinced cause this car is only 10k+  laugh.gif , so far managed to run the car up to 160km/h at 4k rpm feeling safe, can go more but no balls  sweat.gif
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actually for waja power window (plastic), you can oil the sides and it will never rosak wan.
go flash killerom with steven la. wont lose out to other ahbeng wan tongue.gif

honestly la. any car is worth the money as long as you sayang kereta wan.
i've been with my waja for 8 years now.
it has NEVER broken down on me. mechanically no problem. but those little little things sure got wear and tear la.
worth every penny. still a better car than most japanese of the same class, imho.
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post Jan 7 2015, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(ZenXL @ Jan 7 2015, 05:56 AM)
Hey everyone,

I'm not a car person that much but i was wondering, why does my waja have a "loose" sound everytime i go thru strips or speed bumps.

It's like the "rangka" of the car is loose, ive been driving with this problem for a couple of weeks already but i just wanna ask here to see what kind of problem is it and could i probably get it solved.

Someone told me it was my lower arm? I don't think so cause ive sent my car to fix the lower arm and it still has the sound.
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if its not lower arm (tulang anjing i think), then it could be your front strut mount (the black thing that holds your absorbers to your engine bay).


Anyway anyone knows where i can service my alternator in Selangor?
few of the foremen i went refuse to service, just wanna sell new alternator.

Thanks smile.gif
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post Jan 7 2015, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(ZenXL @ Jan 7 2015, 07:42 PM)
bottom of the car, a loose metal sound like chimes.
front strut mount? hm alright ill send my car for service tomorrow since it's already due for service, might aswell change the thingy.
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If no rosak dont have to change the front strut mounts.
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post Jan 15 2015, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(^pomen_GTR^ @ Jan 15 2015, 10:49 AM)
retrofit...get this set and replace those horrible stock waja projector unit.... (retain stock headlight body just replace the projector)

http://www.mudah.my/Generic+Standard+Mini+...5+-30578354.htm
use with HID and got hi-low function in the projector itself brows.gif
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Nice. Do u know anyone in klang valley that does the install at fair price? Enquired desmon usj 2 years ago and it was not cheap.
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post Jan 15 2015, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(^pomen_GTR^ @ Jan 15 2015, 11:13 AM)
i think drex chan at ea autoworks (bukit jalil esplenade) still doing this kind of conversion....not sure about fee....

steven also i think can do it... brows.gif
me too bad outside KL.... in sendayan...so might not worth coming all the way here...  blush.gif
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Drex and howie dont do for cars with stock projector dy. They only do for reflector to projector now sad.gif
Haha si ketam is vampire. Only come out after 11pm lol.

Ah sendayan mana which part? Im actually pass by sendayan quite often but for work
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post Jan 15 2015, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Jan 15 2015, 12:49 PM)
Im from Rawang, specifically Bandar Country Homes (the other side of Rawang)

is it possible that the metal gasket has been replaced with lauya ones ? 2 years back my mom had top overhauled the car when it reached 400k km. sweat.gif

btw bro got any solution for this problem ah ? bought tyres 205/55/R16 with 7.5" width 16 inch rim and it's rubbing the front right and back left fenders when going over bumps sweat.gif
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LOL. you terrer la. 205/55r16. not heavy meh? i used to be on 205/50r16 also i rasa heavy dy.
anyway you can try those "COIL SPRING BUFFER". it essentially raises the height by around 2 fingers.

the only draw back is, the ride gets quite stiff. depending on where you positioning the spring buffer.
i might be wrong but my past experience was:
a) all the way top - damn stiff & jarring ride
b) all the way bottom - softer, still stiff.
c) middle - still stiff. i preferred bottom.

dont know how much they cost nowadays. i have one set (back and front). you can contact me if you want them.

there is another option. cant remember what they are called. essentially its a white hard rubber thing they place on the damper itself.

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post Jan 15 2015, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Jan 15 2015, 12:34 PM)
Oh and if you're considering a Perdana, please don't. Maintaining the suspension is gonna cost you ALOT especially if you're the picky type who likes to keep their car working in their best condition. Perdana using double wishbone front suspensions, much more components and bushings to fail. While for the Waja, the rear suspension bushes rarely dies and the front only have the rubber top mount, lower arm bush and ARB link to change that's all.
Well the price on the thread is pretty outdated, you can PM him to get a direct quote.
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uh didnt know that. still have a uber soft spot for the v6 and the old putra tongue.gif

QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Jan 15 2015, 07:20 PM)
it was on 205/55/R15 since years ago. just that the old rim dented already hence trade in for new one. i thought 7.5jj doesnt have much impact compared to old one dunno this rubbing suddenly occur  cry.gif  old rims dunno how many jj.
what tyre size are u using currently ?
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ah. umm. you mean you are now using wider rims ya. then maybe the buffers wont work. this i not pro. maybe rolling the fenders might help? you have to summon old sifu out for help dy. try asking mao2.
(sry i dont know how to tag in lyn forums lol)

im now back to stock 195/55r15.
tried 195/60r15, 205/50r16.
they say 215/45r17 ok. i've seen a few waja's running on 185.
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post Jan 15 2015, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Jan 15 2015, 08:10 PM)
For the rubbing, you need to knock the fender then it won't rub anymore. I'm running 205/50/15 with 15x8jj rims.
Depo-branded headlamp. HID need to get H1 socket HID kit.
No need to put la the spring buffer, that one for people who cut spring wan lol.
Old putra is ok, perdana is really a b**** to maintain the suspension else you'll be constantly fighting the steering just to go straight.
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depo mana beli and how much ya?
aiseh. i thought of getting a v6 just to muck about.
eh anyway, 205/50r15 got what tires to choose from ya? im also on 8jj. are your tire walls straight in line with rim lips? tiba tiba im a little OCD mode, the 195 on 8jj not straight.
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post Jan 15 2015, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Jan 15 2015, 08:42 PM)
nehh the V6 not powerful at all also. Tarak feel at all. And the tires are not exactly flush with the rim, to be completely flush need 225 tires.
when i first pasang it was scraping like hell. went knock the fender then problem solved
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rclxms.gif yaya but it was not meant to be driven hard anyway tongue.gif
i see i see. 225 nothing much to choose from and expensive lo sad.gif
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post Jan 16 2015, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(larrytty @ Jan 16 2015, 09:43 AM)
ok thanks.

QUOTE(^pomen_GTR^ @ Jan 16 2015, 10:04 AM)
bandar sri sendayan new housing area there....
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lol matrix punya banyak new housing. nusari aman, bayu, hijayu or the marrybrown area?

QUOTE(jolipoli81 @ Jan 16 2015, 11:05 AM)
i saw my post smile.gif

btw, it is not easy to do retrofit the projector into Waja headlamp as you'll need custom brackets to fit the aftermarket projectors.

A lot of trial and error. Or maybe I should laser cut a metal bracket to ease every wajarians  rclxm9.gif
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=( too bad you're all the way up in penang. haih.
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post Jan 19 2015, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(Macrusin @ Jan 18 2015, 10:45 AM)
Output is much better than the original .
It's just the gap bother me.
I don't know whether is the mechanic didn't installed correctly
or the headlamp size not similar with the ori.
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Eh where u guys buy?
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post Jan 21 2015, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(minizian @ Jan 20 2015, 07:14 PM)
Here my short review my mom waja after driving it hard and fast:
Basic info:
Age: 10 years old (the one still with 4g18 engine)
Mod: all stock
distance clocked: 130xxx

My observation:

-Stable car, handle fast sweeping corner without sweat whereas my City (3rd and 5th gen) body roll will be very noticeable until you also wan to let go throttle. Waja feel solid and planted in the fast sweeper. Is this the reason why some ppl who used to own waja missed it? hmm.gif

-That engine, good thing is my mom's car is the one still with mitsu drivetrain. For sure its underpowered for the car of its size, need to rev it hard to get going. The auto gearbox I have no opinion in it, just your usual 4 speed gearbox. Need some time for the  gear to kickdown when needed.

-This car with underpowered engine and big size mean it drink like a champ  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

-Steering wise there abit of free play very near to the center axis. What i mean is the steering can be wiggled around but there are no actual effect on the steering. But when u doing actual corner, I could actually feel what the car went tru the road underneath. You could never feel it in the City especially the newer City where there no way you can know what your tires or the road went through (it is noted that foreign review on current City or Jazz had the same opinion too). Long live hydraulic steerring icon_rolleyes.gif

-Interior wise is abit worn, the seating postion is abit odd especilly the roofline is very near my head (170cm height). At least everything still functional as it is even though its worn out.

-Braking wise, I need to press the brake pedal quite deep in before I could feel the bite between the pads and disc. So does this mean its time for new pads and disc brake?  icon_question.gif If so how much would it cost if I choose the original proton parts?

-Tires my parents said the last tire change (goodyear nct 5) was 3 years ago and I can see the thread is quite thin and actually part of the tires starts to break off. I am considering changing to Mich PS3 just to get a feel how was it to drive with a high performance tire. The wheel is stock proton and the wheel size is 195/55/R15

So guys, I am thinking if i choose my parent car as the car to tekan around in twisty/nice to drive road in Malaysia, the thing i need to get in order is: icon_question.gif

- New Brake pad, new disc
- New set of performance tire.

Is there anything i shd add on to the list? I don think the engine is worth any modding unless i do a complete engine change which i not really keen to do. Just wanna enjoy the car in stock and experience that "lotus" handling
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1) on brakes, you have to read back a few pages back. for more brake feel the sifus say change to evo brake servo and other stuff.
2) on steering freeplay, change the steering bush.
3) on under powered in lower revs, contact mxsteven. flash ecu.
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post Jan 21 2015, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(larrytty @ Jan 21 2015, 10:52 AM)
recommended depo headlamps plus HID as original not very good cut off and light lost.
Pls pick 4300k-5000k range to keep u safe from JPJ+police and of course safer for other users too.
4300k is best (my personal view) as too white during rain u see nothing at all as the wet road just reflect everything upwards. (btw i am using 5000k now and feel that its abit too white. however 5000k the colour is nicer)
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me no likey you dy. after you pointed out my HIDs lain warna (ying yong) i kenot help but noticing them every time i on lights sad.gif
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post Jan 22 2015, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(jackson66767 @ Jan 21 2015, 06:10 PM)
If you have the budget, just go for DEPO headlamp + 4300k HID. No regrets at all  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

Stock headlamp the cut off and output, IMHO not as good as DEPO.
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Can provide pix?
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post Jan 28 2015, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(larrytty @ Jan 28 2015, 08:20 AM)
dont forget treat me penang char kueh teow when i go down hahaha

no la i just feel that u have the enthusiasm to do this thing and you have been pushing your projectors a long time
its good to have some backup once in awhile and quite chun i am always on waja thread too

would love to do the cutting of the headlamps again if given the chance:)
any waja user wanna donate his headlamps?smile.gif
By the way... i did not use any bracket or epoxy to glue on the projectors to the housing
instead i just screw the thing in firm so that in future if wan change can change another projector
however after few months i think the projector is still good to go
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I WAN DONATE. BUT BUGGER U LITERALLY OVERSEAS. HOW TO GIVE?
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post Jan 28 2015, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(larrytty @ Jan 28 2015, 05:14 PM)
hahaha i have one set projector laying at home leh... waiting for your headlamps only
youre using Depo now is it?
u ship it over i ship it back loh

oh ya i upgraded my ride d... hahah myvi 1.3 first gen manual:) RM60 = 350km
lol but my waja still around of course.. my baby still
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Lol kawan lately keje malam. kenot la. Send to u and u send back i go heaven dy.
uaing stock lights.
Eh odd. Thats around 11km/l. Would have expected a bit more. Eh apa ni. Thats not upgrade wei! sad.gif
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post Mar 1 2015, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Verblassen @ Feb 25 2015, 12:06 AM)
Just installed a double layer servo from an SR20 (S15) and a Nissan (not sure which model) master brake pump today.
Brakes like a champ now!  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  Let me test for 1 week first though. RM300 all in all.  icon_rolleyes.gif
Thank you sifus who helped me out a while back notworthy.gif
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Uhhh nice. Mana buat?
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post Mar 7 2015, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(Verblassen @ Mar 7 2015, 12:26 AM)
Found this guy on mudah.com.
He sold me the servo and master brake pump and installed it on the spot.
Very friendly guy, Ali.
If anyone here wants to do I would highly recommend him  rclxms.gif
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nice. Mind passing me his contact or mudah advert?

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post Mar 9 2015, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(Verblassen @ Mar 8 2015, 07:12 PM)
Yeah sure sure. This will link you to his mudah ad. The number is the same as the one displayed on the ad cool2.gif
Waja Servo


Didn't need to whack at all flex.gif It fit perfectly. Initially I had my doubts on the day I was supposed to see him. When I looked at the single layer servo, which already took a lot of space next to the suspension, I was thinking, how is this guy going to fit something twice the size of the original servo into such a limited place. Somehow he managed to fit it. This is how it looks like biggrin.gif Very gooding now.  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  He told me that the Evo Servos are a bit too hard. The SR20's is a bit more soft to play around with.
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uhhhh thanks for the link! and yes like NS said, the link seems to be removed. on the mudah link the servo seems to fit ngam ngam also!
haih but i think i have to put the waja tinkering on hold. burnt an engine (not the waja) during CNY celebrations.

QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Mar 9 2015, 05:34 AM)
yeah my evo servo was kinda hard to fit but in the end surprisingly it managed to fit! The Honda servo's are going for less than 100 bucks if i'm not mistaken which was why my friend used it, but downside is ahve to whack the suspension tower sweat.gif

btw your image can't be loaded
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NS! tarak update on new mods on your waja?

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post Mar 9 2015, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Mar 9 2015, 03:31 PM)
apa update you mau? dah la stalk my youtube channel. haha
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Manalah tau ur car can fly like ur quadcopter LOL!

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