I ask one of my kawan di JPM . JUSA C punya gaji kasar RM10k plus plus something like that lah

dunno if he bluff or else

the ultimate one is of koz JUSA A which is boleh kasi kalah gaji ktards RM20k

jusa A is who? Agong?

Congratzz. Rakyat dpt harga minyak naik. Pembesar dpt gaji naik...

Turus 1?

Jusa C abt 10k is about right.

Prof level.

Jusa /K 20k diam2

54 pun dah dekat2 8-9.5 dah termasuk elaun.

yes at least 10k, belum campur elaun2

can go up to 21k

jusa B and jusa A lagi tinggi

this is based on academician punya tangga gaji, professor la

This post has been edited by maxpudding: Oct 10 2014, 07:51 PM

JUSA A will beat ktards RM20k gaji kaw2 .

Jusa A around 40k.

eh bukan gred 52 suda already exceed 10k?
if so jusa C must be like 15k

Habih tu ko nk bg gaji JUSA RM3000 je..... pangkat naik gaji naik la......

lel, your friend tipu punya.

ultimate civil servant level is not jusa A, but KSN.

below KSN is Ketua Turus I, Ketua Turus II, Ketua Turus III, then only JUSA A.

example of ppl who are ketua turus I are Ketua Pengarah Kesihatan, Ketua Pengarah JKR, KPPA, Panglima Angkatan Tentera (PAT) etc...

ketua Turus II are those 2nd in command level or ketua setiausaha (KSU) or ketua pengarah of smaller dept.s like ketua pengarah EPU etc...

but yeah, even ketua turus I gaji is more than RM20k, and that does not include their allowances...

sebok gaji orang lain besar2, dulu masa sekolah main dota cs

yup, there is such a thing as turus 1 as I explained above.

btw forgot to mention inspector general of police (IGP), he is also ketua turus.

in English it's translated as head of staff or head of service.

JUSA C basic is around there

but the benefits u will cry

total allowance + benefits + basic > 20k/ month for JUSA C

best benefit?

1. free lifetime supply of petrol
2. free perdana v6 / inspira / accordana black sedan car
3. free driver (or allowance for driver)
4. fly business

lel, some scheme their 48 is already rm7k w/ allowance.

only PTD scheme is rm8k at 54....

Sebut psl jusa & turus ni......jom kita tgk where is jusa & turus in the senarai keutamaan persekutuan.

http://protokolum.blogspot.com/2009/02/sus...tamaan.html?m=1

errr...my ptd fren told me Turus 1 only for KPPA, KSP and AG. KSN is above Turus 1.

mana ada free lifetime la brader.

once you pencen, they will stop your PETRONAS smartpay fleet card privilieges and other privilieges.

also, you can't keep the accordana, but you can get it at harga susut nilai or harga sebelum cukai, I forgot actual term but it's whichever is higher.

most ppl I know normally don't want to buy the old perdana, too expensive to maintain by yourself.

some of the luckier ones get a free AP to import their own car or get a discount to buy a repossessed conti from kastam...

current retiring JUSA's can buy over the inspira at about 20+k.. not too sure of the exact figure.

Dont forget.. CEO of cibd is turus 2.. hahah.. higher than jkr dg

so, dafag is jusa again?

i tot after u pencen, u oso die?

since if no more jusa, u only live with 50% of your basic, thus u prefer to be dead?


but yeah, the perdana is a bad choice. the inspira is too common. new batch is getting the accordana.

Yeah right.....its here u can refer to this....

http://protokolum.blogspot.com/2009/02/sus...tamaan.html?m=1

jawatan utama sektor awam

GTA marhesia
SV_cheats1
Impulse101

premier

Itu aku setuju.....ini main dengan citer2 indah je ni.

you're wrong bro. IGP and PAT is Turus II. only got three Turus 1 officers.

sometimes u have higher position =/- higher grade

heck, in HKL, the hospital director maybe only get JUSA C or B or worse U54 only

the specialist doctor are mostly JUSA A

they can simply ignore whatever the HD says cos they have higher payscale

only in official function your position matters


behind closed doors, meh

your comprehension is bad.

I did mention that ksn level is above all.

also, your friend must be ptd only like you. I guess you ppl rarely if ever mix around with other ppl not from your scheme.

IGP, PAT and some of the ketua pengarah who are also ketua perkhidmatan (head of service) are turus I as well.

by AG I assume you meant the attorney general, who is the ketua perkhidmatan for legal service (L scheme).

wow so many experts here in /k/ ayam terkejut

Where got.
Jusa c kalau tak guna driver can claim driver allowance for himself.
Lapik2 pun 27k

well, he was the former DG of JKR before he was 'demoted' to the post of CIBD CEO.

he was suppose to stay in the post but apparently some of the other higher level civil servants (I heard it was the KSN) was intimidated by his ability and relative young age, so he was 'shafted' to the CIBD post.

besides, he is also an adjunct professor of the privatised IKRAM (now known as Infrastructure University).

Specialist doctor are mostly UD54, usually more than 10 years specialist jusa c, some state level punya specialist head jusa b, national head can get jusa A.

macha...u google sikit la.. simpan ego aside. i just did a simple google and this came on my first hit.

"YB Tuan Wee Choo Keong (Wangsa Maju) minta Menteri Pelajaran kenapakah Ketua Pengarah Pelajaran yang merupakan Ketua Perkhidmatan kepada lebih daripada 400,000 pegawai perkhimatan pelajaran berada di Grad Turus 3 berbanding dengan Panglima Angkatan Tentera dan Ketua Polis Negara yang juga merupakan ketua perkhidmatan yang berada di dalam Grad Turus 2?"

my bro-in-law once won a tender for the retired perdana long wheelbase belonging to the Melaka state govt.

the car was heavily modified, the stretched rooftop has started to crack and rust (you can see the welding joints) and the gearbox was shot.

the engine was also pitifully underpowered since they had to carry the extra weight.

it's now sitting in his garage after 3 years of abuse, dunno if he plans to sell it or repair it...

Judin was "demoted" but he gave a fight and finally the gomen gave him a promotion based on grade from turus III to turus II.

This post has been edited by deepan84: Oct 10 2014, 09:11 PM

ah, i used the wrong word

it should be minority of the specialist doctor (and also anaesth and radiologist)

u're on which scale? jusa b or jusa a?

Doesnt matter.....but IGP & PAT seniority is higher...even higher than deputy ministers. But now becoz they are not politicians they need to bow to deputy ministers.

itu lama punya cerita, wee choo keong pun sudah tak berani masuk bertanding kat wangsa maju.

I recall that the previous IGP (ismail omar) retired holding turus I rank, same goes for musa Hassan who was extended via contract for so many years.

also the current PAT has been in his post for so long, for sure they will have no choice but to elevate him to turus I level.

usually for special cases they will give something like 'khas untuk penyandang' or KUP level to ppl who have held the post for so long.

meaning the grade is for him/her alone, once he/she retires the person who gets the post will start at the original turus II or turus III level as the post dictates...

Tak bole la ini machiem...... PAT & IGP must be higher la.....they are closer to Agung. Even in state of emergency when no more parliament PAT will head the country.

ur dad is JUSA A ot Turus III?

but we were talking bout grade. why la shifting goalpost? anyway i list abit from what i know lar. got this from a blog. http://pandaman-demimasa.blogspot.com/2010...i-kerajaan.html



Ketua Setiausaha Negara Gred VU 1
Peguam Negara - Utama Turus I
Ketua Pengarah Perkhidmatan Awam -Utama Turus I
Ketua Setiausaha Kementerian Kewangan -Turus I
Panglima Angkatan Tentera -Utama Turus II
Ketua Polis Negara (IGP) -Utama Turus II
Ketua Pengarah Kesihatan -Utama Turus II
Ketua Audit Negara -Utama Turus II
Akauntan Negara -Utama Turus III
Ketua Hakim Syariee -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Pelajaran -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Kerja Raya -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Kastam DiRaja -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Jabatan Pengajian Tinggi -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Unit Perancangan Ekonomi -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Unit Penyelarasan Pelaksanaan -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Mampu -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pesuruhjaya SPRM -Utama Turus III

Yang disenaraikan adalah ketua jabatan bergred Turus ke atas manakala lain-lain ketua jabatan adalah bergred Jusa A / Jusa B dan Jusa C serta gred 54/52.

Lain-lain Ketua Setiausaha Kementerian adalah bergred TURUS III kecuali KSU Kementerian Pelancongan, KSU Kementerian Wilayah Persekutuan, KSU Kementerian Belia & Sukan, KSU Kementerian Sumber Manusia dan KSU Kementerian Pembangunan Wanita Bergred Jusa A. Semua KSU adalah dari golongan Pegawai Tadbir Dan Politik (PTD).

Cuba teka skim awam mana yg paling ramai officer poyo?

skim u?
Skim ud?
Skim N ?
Skim M ?
Skim J?
Skim W?

whats the qualification to be gomen servant? must work for gomen since young or?

KUP tak kira bro... i was talking bout the positions original grade.

semua skim ada officer poyo bro... dont la separate based on skim. outside world look at us at civil servant as a whole.... we do our best je..

u must be gred 41 at the age of 20 or best 19

then if u good whether u pandai ass up ur big boss or u work hard u naik2

for this we take the M gred cuz they naik pangkat cepat

specialist w/ more than 10 years experience is referred to as consultant specialist.

specialist doctors in govt. normally start at UD52 grade.

my wife's boss is jusa C specialist, and he recently took delivery of a grey accordana....

My director general pangkat Turus but not sure which Turus...

If not mistaken all of our Division Director pangkat Jusa...and most of our Head of unit also Jusa...

Got this also....ok tq for that infos. I dont know that

jusa pengetua SMK 11k

KSP gaji kecik...
but when parlimen bubar....
fuh !

bro, that is all old news bro.

nowadays some ppl can get those grade even though their scheme's upper limit is below the grade they are holding.

also, if you notice, the KSU II of kementerian pelajaran, dato' dr zaini ujang was not a ptd, but in fact was the former vice chancellor of UTM, the first professor (and non-ptd) to become a KSU, long a domain of arts/business/econs graduated PTD scheme...

skim M ni ape? PTD?


dammm. only know i know got higher than jusa A for civil servant.

After 6 years of ud54, specialists are eligible for jusa C. But the earliest i know, took 9 years. Much earlier could be special speciality or being placed at hospital where nobody want to go.

D.O

u tak tgk lagi elaun depa

kereta free
petrol free
tng free
tak opt for driver, get partial of the driver's money

bila pencen, get half salary as per last drawn salary until die

my dad's an ex-jusa btw haha

This post has been edited by Haters_Gonna_H8: Oct 10 2014, 09:37 PM

district officer?

this one I agree with u bro. I have cool M friends, and my wife has sucky UD friends.

also have great F and J friends and some nice N friends in certain states (where they don't have PTDs)...

My dad was a clerk

PTD or Pegawai Tadbir dan Diplomatik can be considered as one of the most exclusive position in the civil service.

PTD officers are the one will eventually hold key government positions that include KSU (Ketua Setiausaha), Director General (Ketua Pengarah), District Officer (DO) and Setiausaha Kerajaan Negeri.

PTD is one of the earliest posts introduced in the Malaysian civil service which started back in 1904. It was first known as Malaysian Home and Foreign Services (MHFS), then changed to Pegawai Tadbir & Diplomatik (PTD) as we know today. The PTD officers are involved in the country development at all levels.

They are responsible in strengthening the country administration function, social infrastructure development, economy and the industrial. In other words, it is one of the most important portfolios before the country embraced and emphasize on the private sector. As the name sounds, some of the PTD officers are also sent as the country diplomatic representative and are based in the Malaysian embassies abroad. But that’s not all about PTD. Apart from the international diplomatic representation, the PTD also consists of the following fields, namely:

International Relation

National Security and Defense

Information Technology and Communication Management

Administration and Development

Human Resources and Organizational Management

Financial Resources and Management

bapak aku pencen N22 je.

tenkiu bro.

yup. my dad got his perdana. not sure bad or good but he love his perdana.

and no more free petrol after pencen.

Tu special agent ala2 CIA tu....

kaya siot org tua tu. baru pencen, still dpt stgh gaji, dah lebih dari >rm8k per month..

tu tak kira lagi duit dari golden handshake

dah hidup tak risau apa2. rumah habis bayar, kereta habis bayar, takde loan2 dah, anak2 dah besar

i jelly lol

This post has been edited by Haters_Gonna_H8: Oct 10 2014, 09:45 PM

sekarang kalau nak jadi PTD bergantung kepada nasib .. kena interview oleh Datuk2 bukan pegawai2 bawahan .

Sultan tak sayang.
Kalau tak sambung kontrak lagi byk payment.

wah... orang kaya spotted

oo ye ke

skrg dia dok sebok nak buat niaga hahahaha

OnG all jusa level laa..still young somemore..no big deal.

if perdana, sure lama dah pencen ni, skrg depa pakai inspira

yaaaa. no big deal. work just attend meeting, arah2 org, pergi lawat kawasan project, lawat negara lain, dah cam melancong

anyone know which grade that receive full salary even in their pencen?
and grade that receive pencen pass to couples of their generation even after they are dead?

tun haniff omar was the IGP at the age of 35.

meaning he reached turus II level while other ppl are probably at grade 44/48 only when compared to him.

and hence that is why an IGP can be a Turus I level, surely haniff omar was not taking only a turus II salary during the next 20 years of his service?

my gf sister working in OnG, age 32. just got her increment letter startin oct salary 20k plus.. no joke.

perdana exec was still being used till the accordana came in. the inspira replaced the normal perdana.

i tink most of the jawatan with negara behind.

This post has been edited by deepan84: Oct 10 2014, 10:02 PM

not the 1 opposite someone in level 4?

KUP is different than gred hakiki jawatan. SUB can be turus also but it doesnt reflect the real grade for the post. yeah other skims are coming in ptd's jobscope as in KSU etc. but for me it doesnt matter. as long the job is done with perfection. competition is good in a way. whats important is the job gets done! If ptd really good, they will accept the challenge.

oh ya. betul2 lupa plak accordana tu

wow, im 23 already. dont think got chance to join.

but join, gaji macam siput =.=

try joinin before 30. coz max pencen is 30yrs service. masuk kastam la. their new payscale like very high.

dude, the law of pension is that you receive max. 1/2 of your last drawn salary.

and that means if your salary rm10k but w/ allowance becomes rm18k, you still get only rm5k as your last drawn salary is still only rm10k.

and the only ppl who can get your pension in case you died is your spouse and/or children below the age of 18.

and full pension (1/2 of last drawn salary) is only for 25 years, after 25 years if you or your spouse are still living the amount of pension will be revised (maybe only 1/3 of last drawn salary, I'm not too sure of the calculations).

that's why you have all these stories of 100 year old pensioners complaining that they cannot survive on their pension, as probably their pension is only rm100-200/mth only.

my mom in law receives my late father-in-law's pension, her pension is only rm1000 (schoolteacher what do you expect?).

still can't qualify for BR1M anyway, that's why we live with her or else she can't survive in KL...

Sibuk pasal harga minyak. Why u no spend time go earn more money? Rage sini ada guna meh?

wow I didn't expect this kind of info/discussion from ktard

ok, thanks. i will try and see. but im doing IT wor.

do they even take different field people into their work force?

yeah I understand.

the gred hakiki nowadays is more of a guideline, meaning if someone got promoted from SUB to KSU, even though his/her old grade was jusa c or jusa b, but because the ksu comes with turus iii or turus ii grade, he/she automatically gets that grade.

and as I mentioned, if you stay long enough in the post you will be promoted beyond your gred hakiki, but only personal to holder (khas untuk penyandang).

once you leave the post, it reverts back to the original grade.

but very rarely I've heard of an sub who is turus grade.

my wife told me the previous ketua pengarah kesihatan (the one who got caught khalwat with a staff nurse) kept his turus II salary despite his job being suspended...

I thought 3/5 of ur last drawn basic salary?

owh..i thot people in level 4 ppm got that privilege..

IINM jusa A and above.

maybe they revised it, but I malas to check JPA.gov.my page.

tbh my mom and dad are govt. pensioners, but they're not ptds.

yeah they wished that I became one, took the exam and the 3 day assessment at IKWAS and interview, passed all but didn't accept the offer letter that time (12 years ago) because I liked my previous job then.

what's past is past...

← attended kastam interview yesterday. lol.

chance to be selected from 30k candidates? hahaha