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> Gaji Gred JUSA C is RM10k something2, Bawahan diam2 saja gaji RM2k ok ! Chat

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LTZ
post Oct 10 2014, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(deepan84 @ Oct 10 2014, 08:59 PM)
you're wrong bro. IGP and PAT is Turus II. only got three Turus 1 officers.
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Doesnt matter.....but IGP & PAT seniority is higher...even higher than deputy ministers. But now becoz they are not politicians they need to bow to deputy ministers.
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post Oct 10 2014, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(deepan84 @ Oct 10 2014, 09:08 PM)
macha...u google sikit la.. simpan ego aside. i just did a simple google and this came on my first hit.

"YB Tuan Wee Choo Keong (Wangsa Maju) minta Menteri Pelajaran kenapakah Ketua Pengarah Pelajaran yang merupakan Ketua Perkhidmatan kepada lebih daripada 400,000 pegawai perkhimatan pelajaran berada di Grad Turus 3 berbanding dengan Panglima Angkatan Tentera dan Ketua Polis Negara yang juga merupakan ketua perkhidmatan yang berada di dalam Grad Turus 2?"
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itu lama punya cerita, wee choo keong pun sudah tak berani masuk bertanding kat wangsa maju.

I recall that the previous IGP (ismail omar) retired holding turus I rank, same goes for musa Hassan who was extended via contract for so many years.

also the current PAT has been in his post for so long, for sure they will have no choice but to elevate him to turus I level.

usually for special cases they will give something like 'khas untuk penyandang' or KUP level to ppl who have held the post for so long.

meaning the grade is for him/her alone, once he/she retires the person who gets the post will start at the original turus II or turus III level as the post dictates...
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post Oct 10 2014, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(deepan84 @ Oct 10 2014, 09:08 PM)
macha...u google sikit la.. simpan ego aside. i just did a simple google and this came on my first hit.

"YB Tuan Wee Choo Keong (Wangsa Maju) minta Menteri Pelajaran kenapakah Ketua Pengarah Pelajaran yang merupakan Ketua Perkhidmatan kepada lebih daripada 400,000 pegawai perkhimatan pelajaran berada di Grad Turus 3 berbanding dengan Panglima Angkatan Tentera dan Ketua Polis Negara yang juga merupakan ketua perkhidmatan yang berada di dalam Grad Turus 2?"
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Tak bole la ini machiem...... PAT & IGP must be higher la.....they are closer to Agung. Even in state of emergency when no more parliament PAT will head the country.
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post Oct 10 2014, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(pulautikus @ Oct 10 2014, 09:04 PM)
Where got.
Jusa c kalau tak guna driver can claim driver allowance for himself.
Lapik2 pun 27k
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ur dad is JUSA A ot Turus III? hmm.gif
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post Oct 10 2014, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Oct 10 2014, 09:11 PM)
Doesnt matter.....but IGP & PAT seniority is higher...even higher than deputy ministers. But now becoz they are not politicians they need to bow to deputy ministers.
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but we were talking bout grade. why la shifting goalpost? cool2.gif anyway i list abit from what i know lar. got this from a blog. http://pandaman-demimasa.blogspot.com/2010...i-kerajaan.html



Ketua Setiausaha Negara Gred VU 1
Peguam Negara - Utama Turus I
Ketua Pengarah Perkhidmatan Awam -Utama Turus I
Ketua Setiausaha Kementerian Kewangan -Turus I
Panglima Angkatan Tentera -Utama Turus II
Ketua Polis Negara (IGP) -Utama Turus II
Ketua Pengarah Kesihatan -Utama Turus II
Ketua Audit Negara -Utama Turus II
Akauntan Negara -Utama Turus III
Ketua Hakim Syariee -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Pelajaran -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Kerja Raya -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Kastam DiRaja -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Jabatan Pengajian Tinggi -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Unit Perancangan Ekonomi -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Unit Penyelarasan Pelaksanaan -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Mampu -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pesuruhjaya SPRM -Utama Turus III

Yang disenaraikan adalah ketua jabatan bergred Turus ke atas manakala lain-lain ketua jabatan adalah bergred Jusa A / Jusa B dan Jusa C serta gred 54/52.

Lain-lain Ketua Setiausaha Kementerian adalah bergred TURUS III kecuali KSU Kementerian Pelancongan, KSU Kementerian Wilayah Persekutuan, KSU Kementerian Belia & Sukan, KSU Kementerian Sumber Manusia dan KSU Kementerian Pembangunan Wanita Bergred Jusa A. Semua KSU adalah dari golongan Pegawai Tadbir Dan Politik (PTD).




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post Oct 10 2014, 09:19 PM

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Cuba teka skim awam mana yg paling ramai officer poyo?

skim u?
Skim ud?
Skim N ?
Skim M ?
Skim J?
Skim W?
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post Oct 10 2014, 09:19 PM

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whats the qualification to be gomen servant? must work for gomen since young or?
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post Oct 10 2014, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Oct 10 2014, 09:14 PM)
itu lama punya cerita, wee choo keong pun sudah tak berani masuk bertanding kat wangsa maju.

I recall that the previous IGP (ismail omar) retired holding turus I rank, same goes for musa Hassan who was extended via contract for so many years.

also the current PAT has been in his post for so long, for sure they will have no choice but to elevate him to turus I level.

usually for special cases they will give something like 'khas untuk penyandang' or KUP level to ppl who have held the post for so long.

meaning the grade is for him/her alone, once he/she retires the person who gets the post will start at the original turus II or turus III level as the post dictates...
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KUP tak kira bro... i was talking bout the positions original grade.
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post Oct 10 2014, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(no0b @ Oct 10 2014, 07:47 PM)
Turus 1?
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post Oct 10 2014, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(abcde90 @ Oct 10 2014, 09:19 PM)
Cuba teka skim awam mana yg paling ramai officer poyo?

skim u?
Skim ud?
Skim N ?
Skim M ?
Skim J?
Skim W?
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semua skim ada officer poyo bro... dont la separate based on skim. outside world look at us at civil servant as a whole.... we do our best je..
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post Oct 10 2014, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(PrincZe @ Oct 10 2014, 09:19 PM)
whats the qualification to be gomen servant? must work for gomen since young or?
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u must be gred 41 at the age of 20 or best 19

then if u good whether u pandai ass up ur big boss or u work hard u naik2

for this we take the M gred cuz they naik pangkat cepat


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post Oct 10 2014, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(Tabibpower @ Oct 10 2014, 09:07 PM)
Specialist doctor are mostly UD54, usually more than 10 years specialist jusa c, some state level punya specialist head jusa b, national head can get jusa A.
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specialist w/ more than 10 years experience is referred to as consultant specialist.

specialist doctors in govt. normally start at UD52 grade.

my wife's boss is jusa C specialist, and he recently took delivery of a grey accordana....
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post Oct 10 2014, 09:26 PM

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My director general pangkat Turus but not sure which Turus...

If not mistaken all of our Division Director pangkat Jusa...and most of our Head of unit also Jusa...
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post Oct 10 2014, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(deepan84 @ Oct 10 2014, 09:18 PM)
but we were talking bout grade. why la shifting goalpost? cool2.gif anyway i list abit from what i know lar. got this from a blog. http://pandaman-demimasa.blogspot.com/2010...i-kerajaan.html
Ketua Setiausaha Negara  Gred VU 1
Peguam Negara                                                        - Utama Turus I
Ketua Pengarah Perkhidmatan Awam                        -Utama Turus I
Ketua Setiausaha Kementerian Kewangan                -Turus I
Panglima Angkatan Tentera                                      -Utama Turus II
Ketua Polis Negara (IGP)                                        -Utama Turus II
Ketua Pengarah Kesihatan                                        -Utama Turus II
Ketua Audit Negara                                                -Utama Turus II
Akauntan Negara                                                    -Utama Turus III
Ketua Hakim Syariee                                              -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Pelajaran                                        -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Kerja Raya                                    -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Kastam DiRaja                              -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Jabatan Pengajian Tinggi                -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Unit Perancangan Ekonomi            -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Unit Penyelarasan Pelaksanaan      -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Mampu                                        -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pesuruhjaya SPRM                                      -Utama Turus III

Yang disenaraikan adalah ketua jabatan bergred Turus ke atas manakala lain-lain ketua jabatan adalah bergred Jusa A / Jusa B dan Jusa C serta gred 54/52.

Lain-lain Ketua Setiausaha Kementerian adalah bergred TURUS III kecuali KSU Kementerian Pelancongan,  KSU Kementerian Wilayah Persekutuan, KSU Kementerian Belia & Sukan, KSU Kementerian Sumber Manusia dan KSU Kementerian Pembangunan Wanita Bergred Jusa A. Semua KSU adalah dari golongan Pegawai Tadbir Dan Politik (PTD).
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Got this also....ok tq for that infos. I dont know that

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post Oct 10 2014, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(rhoyo @ Oct 10 2014, 08:44 PM)
I ask one of my kawan di JPM . JUSA C punya gaji kasar RM10k plus plus something like that lah

dunno if he bluff or else  sweat.gif

the ultimate one is of koz JUSA A which is boleh kasi kalah gaji ktards RM20k
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jusa pengetua SMK 11k
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KSP gaji kecik...
but when parlimen bubar....
fuh !
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post Oct 10 2014, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(deepan84 @ Oct 10 2014, 09:18 PM)
but we were talking bout grade. why la shifting goalpost? cool2.gif anyway i list abit from what i know lar. got this from a blog. http://pandaman-demimasa.blogspot.com/2010...i-kerajaan.html
Ketua Setiausaha Negara  Gred VU 1
Peguam Negara                                                        - Utama Turus I
Ketua Pengarah Perkhidmatan Awam                        -Utama Turus I
Ketua Setiausaha Kementerian Kewangan                -Turus I
Panglima Angkatan Tentera                                      -Utama Turus II
Ketua Polis Negara (IGP)                                        -Utama Turus II
Ketua Pengarah Kesihatan                                        -Utama Turus II
Ketua Audit Negara                                                -Utama Turus II
Akauntan Negara                                                    -Utama Turus III
Ketua Hakim Syariee                                              -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Pelajaran                                        -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Kerja Raya                                    -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Kastam DiRaja                              -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Jabatan Pengajian Tinggi                -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Unit Perancangan Ekonomi            -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Unit Penyelarasan Pelaksanaan      -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pengarah Mampu                                        -Utama Turus III
Ketua Pesuruhjaya SPRM                                      -Utama Turus III

Yang disenaraikan adalah ketua jabatan bergred Turus ke atas manakala lain-lain ketua jabatan adalah bergred Jusa A / Jusa B dan Jusa C serta gred 54/52.

Lain-lain Ketua Setiausaha Kementerian adalah bergred TURUS III kecuali KSU Kementerian Pelancongan,  KSU Kementerian Wilayah Persekutuan, KSU Kementerian Belia & Sukan, KSU Kementerian Sumber Manusia dan KSU Kementerian Pembangunan Wanita Bergred Jusa A. Semua KSU adalah dari golongan Pegawai Tadbir Dan Politik (PTD).
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bro, that is all old news bro.

nowadays some ppl can get those grade even though their scheme's upper limit is below the grade they are holding.

also, if you notice, the KSU II of kementerian pelajaran, dato' dr zaini ujang was not a ptd, but in fact was the former vice chancellor of UTM, the first professor (and non-ptd) to become a KSU, long a domain of arts/business/econs graduated PTD scheme...


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QUOTE(rhoyo @ Oct 10 2014, 09:22 PM)
u must be gred 41 at the age of 20 or best 19

then if u good whether u pandai ass up ur big boss or u work hard u naik2

for this we take the M gred cuz they naik pangkat cepat
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skim M ni ape? PTD?


dammm. only know i know got higher than jusa A for civil servant.
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Oct 10 2014, 09:26 PM)
specialist w/ more than 10 years experience is referred to as consultant specialist.

specialist doctors in govt. normally start at UD52 grade.

my wife's boss is jusa C specialist, and he recently took delivery of a grey accordana....
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After 6 years of ud54, specialists are eligible for jusa C. But the earliest i know, took 9 years. Much earlier could be special speciality or being placed at hospital where nobody want to go.
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QUOTE(exwan @ Oct 10 2014, 09:33 PM)
skim M ni ape? PTD?
dammm. only know i know got higher than jusa A for civil servant.
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