the more I read the reply which is the truth.

the more question I have. what on earth is happening.

people I know like those yb some of them Sangat Penting Meh also don't have but can become yb lol lolololololololololol.

ppl at that place still praise him like god hahaha

putrajaya has more jusa per square kilometre in malaysia.

last time when i did friday prayers at masjid putra in front of the pm's office, you had a long row of perdana and perdana long wheelbase parking....

would you like to queue for 5 hours in the sun and get RM 300 or just play DOTA and get paid RM 1,500 in ossie?

Actually got story behind it. But the summary is as what you said.

why u guys know so many things 1? ain't this suppose to be secretive?

this open secret lah
normal

i kenot brain your england....

but basically we are talking about civil servants aka govt. workers.

those yb adun mp menteri etc. are NOT civil servants. they are politicians.

civil servants are appointed (dilantik) to their posts. they are appointed because they have the qualifications (e.g only a medical grad can become doctor)

politicians are elected (diundi) to their posts. they are elected by the ppl because the ppl trust them despite their qualifications.

that's why you have former tnb meter readers/train stationmasters/office clerks becoming aduns/mp/menteri etc.

because the ppl trust them (or that the ppl kena beli dengan br1m, whichever you prefer).

if you can understand this 1st, then you will undertand the rest.

if you can read malay, then this blog is a good sos of info on what civil servants think.

kuasasebenarrakyat.blogspot.com

jusa got political influence too

that blog looks more like a page specifically set up to fight for TS Abu Bakar, ex-kppa's sacking and to attack ex KSN Sidek. Anyway the blog is defunct now.

well, all the credibility of sidek is flushed down the drain when it was found out that his daughter won some big tender via her husband's company...

doesnt matter. he is still sittin comfortably on petronas board and earning big bucks with his ministerial-level ex KSN title. to summarize, he has nothing to worry bout.

Bro, KSN is Gred Khas, above Turus 1 la LOL

Most KSU r Turus 3 except for Youth n Sports which is Jusa A. Main agencies like EPU, ICU have Turus 3 Ketua Pengarah. KP ICU is Turus 2, same as Ketua Audit Negara

KP ICU is Turus 2 (KUP) i think... gred original is Turus 3.

Nvm, as long as rich lah and well connected can lah.

I can't see myself doing FIFO jobs for the next 30 years, lest I end up like some guys here who are so used to living away from home that home freaks them out.

Maybe a part of me is tired and wants to go home I guess.
I think now can applies online lol. Plus internet here is too sucky for DOTA. Mebbe if I work in city with boutique Engineering firm then can lah

Well... In b4 only for certain group of R.....

bro your comprehension sucks.

if you read back what I wrote and wholly understood it, then you won't be correcting me on the 'ksn is higher than turus i' thing.

oh, and thoise are just starting grades.

the current ketua audit is tan sri ambrin, he is turus I (kup) becos he has been sambung kontrak since like forever (he was born in 1949) which makes him 65 years.

afaik only judges retire at that age, and judges are technically not civil servants (they are under judiciary).

and deepan84 already mentioned why the current KP ICU-JPM is turus ii and not turus iii.

Jawatan Khas Untuk Penyandang (KUP) ialah jawatan yang diwujudkan bagi mengekalkan atau menyesuaikan gred hakiki penyandang apabil berlaku perbezaan dengan hakiki jawatan yang disandarkan. Jawatan yang diwujudkan itu adalah KUP sahaja dan akan dihapuskan sebaik sahaja penyandang meninggalkan jawatan tersebut.

Which basically means just say im at level 1 and i get promoted to level 2 payscale/grade but because no vacancy, i still sit in level 1 and get level 2 payscale/grade.

Yup, correct n i think MOE's KSUs r the same too

this is why i love k/
full of expert/professional in all sector..i actually learn more in k/ than in college..LOL]
tq