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arubin
post Oct 8 2014, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(rolling2014 @ Oct 8 2014, 01:37 PM)
Would ur opinion be diff if she practice password security and the hacker had to crack the shit out to access the pics?
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Yup. Its ignorance that I have no respect for. If you know a thing or 2 about techie stuff, you're cool in my books.

Its like this. I know girls like to keep using the analogy "just because a woman is dressed sexy doesn't mean she deserves to be raped". I totally agree...BUT if a woman is going to dress sexy, wouldn't she avoid walking through certain parts of town? Seriously, how stupid do you have to be?

If you're mad enough to wear a miniskirt and tubetop than go on a holiday to Indian than walk through certain parts of New Delhi by yourself, I can hardly sympathize with you if you're raped. Yes yes, why must guys be so perverted, why can't they respect women, etc. I do not disagree with all that, but why must you also be such an idiot?

Posing for nude pics AND uploading on the internet without bothering to secure your presence online is very much in that same degree of stupidity if you ask me.


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post Oct 8 2014, 01:49 PM

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I salute the hacker for doing this. Now its out there, people would be more cautious on what they put on the internet eventho its private, its crackable and people need to learn from these mistakes.

because I don't want to be the guy who seen his own daughter go on posting picture of herself bare for the world to see.

It is stupidity on the victims part. I don't give a crap about white knight because it is 100% their fault for putting their trust in something so omnious.

This post has been edited by ComradeZ: Oct 8 2014, 01:50 PM
arubin
post Oct 8 2014, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(elm0001 @ Oct 8 2014, 01:40 PM)
annnnnnnnnnnnnnnd how do you know she doesn't know about password security
annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd how about those hackers "spend a little time to educate themselves"
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If your password can be hacked by using social engineering (which was what happened), than you don't know a damn thing about password security. Simple as that.

Also, I never disagreed that the hackers are at fault. What I'm saying is that the victims also carry some of the blame.

Take some lessons on internet security next time, or its your own damned fault what happens to you online.

Internetz...its serious business yo.


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post Oct 8 2014, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Oct 8 2014, 01:46 PM)
ATM also super fragile in the eye of hacker. I know this because I'm from IT line.

So if ATM getting hacked, we should blame the bank for using such a fragile system worldwide?
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thats where proprietary assets comes in, they used windows xp but idk how well they customised it or how often they run patches
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post Oct 8 2014, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Oct 8 2014, 01:38 PM)
tbf la, both side wrong

jen wrong cos she upload those stuff
hacker wrong cos violated people's privacy

while the rest of the internet people are like side shows
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she didn't upload those stuff...it's just how icloud works by uploading stuff automatically.
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post Oct 8 2014, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(arubin @ Oct 8 2014, 01:53 PM)
If your password can be hacked by using social engineering (which was what happened), than you don't know a damn thing about password security. Simple as that.

Also, I never disagreed that the hackers are at fault. What I'm saying is that the victims also carry some of the blame.

Take some lessons on internet security next time, or its your own damned fault what happens to you online.

Internetz...its serious business yo.
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gonna disagree with you in that

but anyway, cheers.
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post Oct 8 2014, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(ray148 @ Oct 8 2014, 01:54 PM)
she didn't upload those stuff...it's just how icloud works by uploading stuff automatically.
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again with the iCloud auto upload doh.gif

if you want to know la, most of the pictures uploaded are way before ipong has icloud (some people are selfieing with old camera phones)

and it might be a potential reason, but iCloud auto upload is super easy to turn off btw

i turned it off the day iCloud is available
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post Oct 8 2014, 01:58 PM

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sorry jenny. but ur nudity is too much for us. we cant just look at it and not fap
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post Oct 8 2014, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(elm0001 @ Oct 8 2014, 01:55 PM)
gonna disagree with you in that

but anyway, cheers.
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Lel its not that I don't get your viewpoint, but I'm also a disgruntled techie. Think of me as a grumpy old man telling kids to get off my lawn, except in this case the lawn would be the internet.

Part of my job (as well as real life) involves having to deal with people who do downright stupid shit with their computers or on the internet. It has pretty much jaded my view of people in general which is why I take a dim view of technical ignorance.
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post Oct 8 2014, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(arubin @ Oct 8 2014, 01:53 PM)
If your password can be hacked by using social engineering (which was what happened), than you don't know a damn thing about password security. Simple as that.

Also, I never disagreed that the hackers are at fault. What I'm saying is that the victims also carry some of the blame.

Take some lessons on internet security next time, or its your own damned fault what happens to you online.

Internetz...its serious business yo.
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'social engineering' were a theory come out by security experts on how normally hackers hack online accounts when being asked on j.law's case.

j.law and others celebrities were hacked by a technique called 'brute force' where an application keep guessing the password in a very fast sequence. iCloud did not set how many times an account can failed login. no matter how secured your password is, if no login failed attempt limit set, your account will eventually hacked.

so the truth is ... the hackers can target anyone they want, it is just certain people are more famous.

it has nothing to do how these celebrities set their password because it will be hacked eventually. As long as they are famous.


basically hackers can use method to hack my maybank account if they really want to. But do you know why my account is still safe now? because most hackers know it is wrong, and they might go to jail if they do so. Stealing is not acceptable in our society standard.


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post Oct 8 2014, 02:18 PM

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Ok,ok....nak pegi toilet jap...
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post Oct 8 2014, 02:18 PM

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post Oct 8 2014, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Oct 8 2014, 10:46 AM)
Putting in cloud storage =/= publish something. it is not like she put in online photo album n show others. cloud storage are basically like safe over the internet.

I wouldn't say it is a sexual violation, but it is a really despicable crime.
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First things first. Cloud storage is NOT like a safe over the internet. It's more like an account book. People can see you have an account and the transactions, but they just can't touch the money. In order to take the money, they will need access to the vault or the ATM.

So your analogy is wrong.
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post Oct 8 2014, 02:36 PM

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I committed genocide after the pics was leaked sad.gif
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post Oct 8 2014, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Oct 8 2014, 02:13 PM)
'social engineering' were a theory come out by security experts on how normally hackers hack online accounts when being asked on j.law's case.

j.law and others celebrities were hacked by a technique called 'brute force' where an application keep guessing the password in a very fast sequence. iCloud did not set how many times an account can failed login. no matter how secured your password is, if no login failed attempt limit set, your account will eventually hacked.

so the truth is ... the hackers can target anyone they want, it is just certain people are more famous.

it has nothing to do how these celebrities set their password because it will be hacked eventually. As long as they are famous.
basically hackers can use method to hack my maybank account if they really want to. But do you know why my account is still safe now? because most hackers know it is wrong, and they might go to jail if they do so. Stealing is not acceptable in our society standard.
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Hmm, brute force? Your password also has to be quite simplistic if it can be hacked by brute force. Likely its even the minimum number of characters needed which is a common mistake made by many people.

This is why I don't use passwords. I use passphrases, at least when it comes to important accounts icon_rolleyes.gif

Want to brute force me? Can...in a couple of years, once you work your way through several long string sequence.
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post Oct 8 2014, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Oct 8 2014, 02:29 PM)
First things first. Cloud storage is NOT like a safe over the internet. It's more like an account book. People can see you have an account and the transactions, but they just can't touch the money. In order to take the money, they will need access to the vault or the ATM.

So your analogy is wrong.
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but your original post saying they are publish it.

i'm just saying they did not publish it. they keep it in a safe place.

all safe place can be broke in, as long as the owner famous enough.
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QUOTE(arubin @ Oct 8 2014, 02:37 PM)
Hmm, brute force? Your password also has to be quite simplistic if it can be hacked by brute force. Likely its even the minimum number of characters needed which is a common mistake made by many people.

This is why I don't use passwords. I use passphrases, at least when it comes to important accounts icon_rolleyes.gif

Want to brute force me? Can...in a couple of years, once you work your way through several long string sequence.
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do you know what are you doing?

you are practically telling people you feel safe because robbers break into your neighbor home because your home security are better.

the problem is not who have a better security or what is the technique of broke in, the problem is robbers breaking in and steal things.
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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Oct 8 2014, 02:51 PM)
but your original post saying they are publish it.

i'm just saying they did not publish it. they keep it in a safe place.

all safe place can be broke in, as long as the owner famous enough.
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In short, if you have RM10 million, you put it in a bank with low security, and it gets broken into, you suffer the same as everyone else who broke into the bank.

So don't put RM10 million into a low security bank.
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post Oct 8 2014, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Oct 8 2014, 02:54 PM)
In short, if you have RM10 million, you put it in a bank with low security, and it gets broken into, you suffer the same as everyone else who broke into the bank.

So don't put RM10 million into a low security bank.
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your analogy is correct.

but the one who immoral is the one who broke into the bank, not the owner.
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post Oct 8 2014, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Oct 8 2014, 02:55 PM)
your analogy is correct.

but the one who immoral is the one who broke into the bank, not the owner.
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Yes, but the owner is whining about how her RM10 million is more suci than other people's RM10 million. Sau pei laaaa....

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