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post Oct 8 2014, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(mafioso @ Oct 8 2014, 02:21 AM)
then its her own choice. lel. not anyone's fault but herself.

she chose to take them, so she has to face the consequences of this (since the image is not to say an innocent scenery but her own body)
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so it's my fault if i put money in my home, burglar broke in and steal it. it's my fxcking fault.
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post Oct 8 2014, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(elm0001 @ Oct 8 2014, 09:04 AM)
wow you guys are so disgusting. you guys mmg wanna blame her but not the hackers

not saying taking those pics are right thing to do but leaked without her permission? why are you guys blaming her you guys are terrible
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+1

next time if /k/ kena robbed or stole. i would say it is your fault to put money in your wallet. everyone knew money is very unsafe inside wallet and people will steal from wallet. so you can only blame yourself if you put money in your wallet.
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post Oct 8 2014, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(bumpo @ Oct 8 2014, 09:47 AM)
its more like you put your money in the middle of the street and burglar steal it.
is the burglar wrong? yes
are you 100% in the clear? no
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putting in a password protected cloud storage is safe unless someone broke into it.
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post Oct 8 2014, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Oct 8 2014, 10:12 AM)
If you put your money in a bank, and the bank does not secure the money and just leaves it like that as is, do you think the bank is blameless?
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icloud is password protected. no one can go in unless hacking into it.

the hackers ... using all methods to deliberate hacking inside and steal people's properties.
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post Oct 8 2014, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Oct 8 2014, 10:12 AM)
No its not your fault, that's your HOUSE. Now see this, your locked house is likened to an encrypted offline pc or usb flash drive, while the Internet today is likened to an international park with free access to anyone. Now imagine, you took that private usb flash drive out of your house, place it in the middle of the park, unsecured (thought its secure), some random fellow swung by, picked it up and access it on his own computer. Who the f is ultimately to blame? The hypothetical grasses in the park is it, whom you blindly trusted with your information.
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why is everyone forgot that icloud is password protected. it is no difference than storing your money in a bank, with lock and security guards.

so someone break in and steal money from a secured bank. it is not the victim's fault.
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post Oct 8 2014, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Oct 8 2014, 10:23 AM)
True, it's a crime to steal anyone's properties, so why should it be a bigger crime if those properties are nude pictures of a woman?
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because the hackers not only steal the properties, he show it on the internet to shame the owner.

imagine someone doing it to your love one or your sister.

steal nude pictar already bad liao, some more spread all over internet to insult the victims.
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post Oct 8 2014, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Oct 8 2014, 10:35 AM)
"But but.. My icloud account is password protected... how??" Dafuq... i challenge you to go read ANY publicly accessible cloud storage provider's terms and conditions. You know, that longggggg fine print the average user doesn't read and just click accept? Yeah that! Its 2014, the year of NSA, FBI, Anonymous, Snowden, Facebook, Google, Microsoft etc scandals. About your money being stored in the bank, why do you think its INSURED? Why would it need insurance if its a 100% hack proof system. Go figure.
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all banks are totally robable if anyone want to try. but that doesn't justify robbing is the responsible of victim.

QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Oct 8 2014, 10:37 AM)
Every woman is someone's loved one lah please.

People spread many things all over the internet to shame people. WHY should it be any different for someone who knowingly and willingly puts stuff on the internet, and then say oh it's sexual violation, just because it is nude?
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Putting in cloud storage =/= publish something. it is not like she put in online photo album n show others. cloud storage are basically like safe over the internet.

I wouldn't say it is a sexual violation, but it is a really despicable crime.
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post Oct 8 2014, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(PhilHellmuth @ Oct 8 2014, 11:12 AM)
then u got tengok any of those fappening pic or not bro ?
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nolor sad.gif

regret now also, coz hard to find ady.

i completely understand men r attracted to beautiful girls' nude photos

but i dun agree with the victim blame
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post Oct 8 2014, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(mafioso @ Oct 8 2014, 11:51 AM)
you have to understand that nothing is safe.

so if you yourself decided to risk your life to do something risky. then you have to face the consequences if shiat happens.

thats whats happening to her now. she cannot accept the consequences.

is driving 100% safe? no
is flying 100% safe? no
is walking 100% safe? no
is a mobile phone 100% safe? no. it has the possibility to explode while you're talking
is food 100% safe? no. some idiot chef might poison your meal.

get the idea?
nothing is safe. but you should take extra precautionary steps to avoid it from happening right? lel

look what happened to nearlee and semakguy.
i also dont know how their faces were managed to be found. lel.

then ytd some guys leaked photo tagging lucifah/ichi_24 in it. dont even know of its them.
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Nothing is 100% safe but i don't blame the victims when sh!t happened.

What happened now is like j.law driving expensive car on the road, after she lock the car n go to buy something, someone broke in the car and drive away.

Then people start to question why j.law buy expensive car in first place, question why she think lock the car n go buy things is safe, question if she dun drive expensive car n park at roadside, none of these would happen.

The problem is not what car j.law driving or how secure her car alarm. The problem is some one stole her car without her consent.
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post Oct 8 2014, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(xxhunter @ Oct 8 2014, 01:41 PM)
bcos few months ago, rmb alot of "secured" website found a flaw and alot of password got leaked? nothing is safe on the internet, heck google/ usa might alrdy have a profile of each internet users in the planet
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ATM also super fragile in the eye of hacker. I know this because I'm from IT line.

So if ATM getting hacked, we should blame the bank for using such a fragile system worldwide?
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post Oct 8 2014, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(arubin @ Oct 8 2014, 01:53 PM)
If your password can be hacked by using social engineering (which was what happened), than you don't know a damn thing about password security. Simple as that.

Also, I never disagreed that the hackers are at fault. What I'm saying is that the victims also carry some of the blame.

Take some lessons on internet security next time, or its your own damned fault what happens to you online.

Internetz...its serious business yo.
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'social engineering' were a theory come out by security experts on how normally hackers hack online accounts when being asked on j.law's case.

j.law and others celebrities were hacked by a technique called 'brute force' where an application keep guessing the password in a very fast sequence. iCloud did not set how many times an account can failed login. no matter how secured your password is, if no login failed attempt limit set, your account will eventually hacked.

so the truth is ... the hackers can target anyone they want, it is just certain people are more famous.

it has nothing to do how these celebrities set their password because it will be hacked eventually. As long as they are famous.


basically hackers can use method to hack my maybank account if they really want to. But do you know why my account is still safe now? because most hackers know it is wrong, and they might go to jail if they do so. Stealing is not acceptable in our society standard.


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post Oct 8 2014, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Oct 8 2014, 02:29 PM)
First things first. Cloud storage is NOT like a safe over the internet. It's more like an account book. People can see you have an account and the transactions, but they just can't touch the money. In order to take the money, they will need access to the vault or the ATM.

So your analogy is wrong.
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but your original post saying they are publish it.

i'm just saying they did not publish it. they keep it in a safe place.

all safe place can be broke in, as long as the owner famous enough.
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post Oct 8 2014, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(arubin @ Oct 8 2014, 02:37 PM)
Hmm, brute force? Your password also has to be quite simplistic if it can be hacked by brute force. Likely its even the minimum number of characters needed which is a common mistake made by many people.

This is why I don't use passwords. I use passphrases, at least when it comes to important accounts icon_rolleyes.gif

Want to brute force me? Can...in a couple of years, once you work your way through several long string sequence.
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do you know what are you doing?

you are practically telling people you feel safe because robbers break into your neighbor home because your home security are better.

the problem is not who have a better security or what is the technique of broke in, the problem is robbers breaking in and steal things.
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post Oct 8 2014, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Oct 8 2014, 02:54 PM)
In short, if you have RM10 million, you put it in a bank with low security, and it gets broken into, you suffer the same as everyone else who broke into the bank.

So don't put RM10 million into a low security bank.
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your analogy is correct.

but the one who immoral is the one who broke into the bank, not the owner.
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post Oct 8 2014, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Oct 8 2014, 03:01 PM)
Yes, but the owner is whining about how her RM10 million is more suci than other people's RM10 million. Sau pei laaaa....
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she did not imply that, she is just angry only. if your rm10 million kena stolen you will be rage also.

bear in mind she is not kena stolen only, people some more shame her over the thing they stole.

i'm sure rage if same thing happen to my sis.


QUOTE(arubin @ Oct 8 2014, 03:02 PM)
I never said that I thought the hackers are innocent and aren't to blame.

I am just saying that those who got hacked are partly to blame themselves for their own ignorance.

Yes, robbers shouldn't break in and steal things. I totally agree. That said, if you leave your gates open and the door unlocked. Of course, the world would be a better place if we can all do that and not have to worry...BUT...let's get real here...

Like I mentioned in another post...as a techie, I am less than impressed whenever someone is a victim of hacking due to their own ignorance.
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she did not done anything ignorance thing here. sync your photos to icloud is not an ignorant act as many people doing it
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post Oct 8 2014, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(bumpo @ Oct 8 2014, 03:35 PM)
you are rage if same thing happen to your sis. ok, thats understandable. but you no rage when your sis take nudie shots? how abt when she decide to  upload it to the internet? how abt when she not delete it after done with it? what could ever possibly go wrong hmmm?

as long as "many people doing it" then it is not ignorance huh? great philosophy you have there buddy. keep it up!
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people take nudie shot and store it. what it has to do with us? so she need to ask our permission she can take nudie shot first?

did she publish it and ask everyone to come see?

no, it is none of our business.

then according to your logic, if i go buy sex toys in amazon, hackers hacked into amazon and expose my transaction details because i'm a famous or something. so you gonna say why you go buy sex toys online? tak tau malu keh?


the truth is, what i do or buy it's my private life as long as I didn't hurt anyone, and I never say I want to share it with everyone. If you break in and stole my info, I'm not the one who should be blame.

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