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This post has been edited by darksider: Nov 24 2023, 08:15 PM

I hope there will be no pity shown by other mods or users here for you. Lex is only following the rules and to me that's fair. You chickened out/felt threatened after I expose the fraud you are with your so called 'perfected way' of buying from Origin Mexico and took the coward's route of reporting on my Origin threads that got deleted almost right away too. There is no such thing as a 'perfected way' and you're clearly offering a bullshit service for RM20-RM50 profit per item/sale. I personally felt that it's not alright for fraudsters like you peddling bullshit and profiting over freely available information on the internet. To me that's swindling, so I put up my 100% free guide that's available all over the internet anyways. That's just me tho and NOT the reason why your threads got deleted. Plain and simple, all re-sellers who are NOT OFFICIAL or AUTHORIZED by STEAM, ORIGIN, UPLAY or any digital online stores are breaking the law at this forum. We just play the game fairly and 'fight' with our prices, track record and customer feedback most of the time. There's a silent code which dictates that you as a seller shall not report on other sellers. You broke the code. I admit I went a bit overboard by reporting on almost all of your threads/topics but I thought you deserve a 'lesson'. Obviously I'm fully aware that you might reciprocate and report on all my threads from now on too hence I pm'ed you and offered you a truce. Instead you pull this stunt asking for sympathies and civil rights. Oh please...
























damn my ocd for grammar. too much time wasted here

This post has been edited by lornawhizz: Sep 28 2014, 08:21 AM

On 27 August 2014,

User Lornawhizz commited two violations of forum rules and regulations:

1) One topic per item. The creation of multiple topics for similar items will result in deletion of all the topics and a warning/suspension.

1st Topic created on 20 August 2014
Topic Title: ORIGIN Digital Store Buying service @RM1.88!
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3325847

2nd Topic created on 27 August 2014
Topic Title: Buy FIFA 15 or any Origin game @ cheapest price!
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3361276

2) Do not troll or flame. Do not intentionally post inflammatory message.

On both of the topics above
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3361276
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3325847

He called many of the forumers including me swindlers.

From Dictionary.com


Also, user Lornawhizz is also suspected of violating the Registration rule of

3) Each user is entitled to ONE user account on the forums.

Evidence:

On 17 May 2014, a new user has been created and named 'gambalagen'.

Topic Title: [WTS]Origin SALE 70% Off! Titanfall, BF4, etc, Learn 2 buy thru Mexican Proxy/VPN 4Free (PC)
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3227410&hl

One day after on 18 May 2014, user lornawhizz replied first time in the topic, as if he is the TS himself.



If you compare 'gambalagen' and 'lornawhizz', it is not difficult to find that that they share similarities as follows:

The use of [attachmentid=4150433] as its post icon and the use of ' ' , and ' ', and ' ',

In particular, post #1, #6, #7, #11, #13, #21, #24, #27, #28, #30, #32 shared by both 'gambalagen' and 'lornawhizz' with similar writing style, vocabulary and use of emoticons and icons.

On 6 June 2014, 'gambalagen' opened a topic entitled " [WTS]ELDER SCROLLS V: SKYRIM LEGENDARY ED. @RM50! (PC) "
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3248986&hl=

Again, we see the consistent use of [attachmentid=4150433], in the post, with similar format as well as writing style.

'gambalagen' never logged in again after 10th June 2014 - 10:29 AM, due to lacklustre of response in both of his shops.

Let us compare it to 'lornawhizz', some evidence has been removed his origin topics have been removed due to violation of one topic per item rule.

However, we still can look at all his unremoved topics.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...ult_type=topics


On his main store,

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3210893&hl=

The use of [attachmentid=4150433], and are consistent.

On his psn store,
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3356312&hl=

Similarly, the use of icon in post and emoticons are consistent.

On his skyrim legendary edition store,

Similarly, the use of icon in post and emoticons are consistent.

Hence, I am requesting the moderator to do an official check on the forum users below
'gambalagen' and 'lornawhizz' to see if they are indeed the same person.

From the time you started to label me swindler, I have already decided not to have any form of communication with you.

All my customers have left good feedback and they are happy to be doing business with me for all the services that I provide. How is that becoming a swindler? If I am a swindler, my name would be all around in Dispute thread.

And stop talking about being n reseller or whatever, I am not a reseller in the case of origin, I provide service to buy games via customer accounts and it does not violate the term of use in Origin, I have pointed evidence with backing of Origin Support.



for all the see, this is the message that lornawhizz sent to me yesterday, proposing a truce or become enemy forever



His attitude has made me refrain from having any form of communication with him, hence, I redirected to lex about this truce and my original message to lex



lex did not bother to reply to this particular message.

This post has been edited by darksider: Sep 28 2014, 03:45 PM

As stated in my previous post, I reported you when you have violated two of the rules and regulations in Lowyat.net, it is not without reasons.

Whatever you may claim or say, you have violated the rule of one topic per item, as well as, trolling and flaming offense where you publicly call other traders in Lowyat swindlers.

For all the customers that have purchased from me, they are all informed to read disclaimer

Specifically, for all forumers and moderators to see, my disclaimer is as below



This post has been edited by darksider: Sep 28 2014, 09:10 AM

gambalagen is in fact my stepbrother who wanted to make a quick buck in this forum too. He copied a bit of my style so what? Him and me don't usually agree on many things tho. I can call/wake him up if need be

I don't ever recall labelling you as a swindler publicly in the forums. Thanks for confirming that you are.

This post has been edited by lornawhizz: Sep 28 2014, 09:04 AM

Whatever your claims may be, I leave it all up to moderators to check. I will refuse to further comment on this particular evidence.

Good. I'm off to do more important things anyways. I'll check back in maybe 2 hours. Stay strong bro...

I cannot stop you from posting all emoticons and spam my thread which is never directed at you in the first place.

You can continue to post defamatory messages on this post to show your follies. This is a public forum anyway, and free for anyone to see.

This moderator lex and lornawhizz are stupid!
Bring back darksider's thread!

He helped me buy FIFA 15 without any problem!
He is not like those fraudsters!
He is 100% trustworthy+friendly+reliable+fast!

well,

i purchased steam gifts and keys here (at lyn) at games section from 2008 till now and never got a problem.
different seller, different guy allways without hiccups.

and yeah, im buying 2 of darksider games too without any problem.

please tell me why this is an issue?

mod need really understand how the system works. this guy just offering a service, nothing more.
steam gifts is not steam account, period.

You should post your complain/enquiry here: https://forum.lowyat.net/MainSiteForumFeedbackandHelpdesk

This is for disputes between buyers and sellers. Any complains about any mods go into the Feedback forum.

lol, recruiting fanboys/supporters now. Must be desperate. Calling lex stupid? oh dear..... And since when is profiting around RM20-50 per item/per game a service? Scratch that, unofficially profiting off Origin especially by bypassing region restrictions is against Origin's TOS regardless. I'm guilty of this too since I charge RM1.88 for my service. At least I don't peddle bullshit to customers claiming a 'perfected way' to buy from Origin Mexico. If I have time I'll get my thousands of supporters from other forums to post here too and turn this into a circus. Oh wait, more emoticons...

This post has been edited by lornawhizz: Sep 28 2014, 10:42 AM

user : darksider has always provided me with quick, polite service. He is offering to buy steam and origin games at a lower price, not cheating anyone. Fair remuneration for good products. Please review this decision or it just looks like abuse of power by mods.

Thanks for the feedback.

I will edit the main post to redirect it to user lornawhizz now, and will be sending my complaint against lex in the proper channel.

Allow me to tag goldfries & se7en and cc lex as is mentioned in dispute against moderator.

From a user end pov I see that darksider has not violated the rule unless again, there is a concrete point by lex why the threads should be removed.

This is trusted seller. I buy origin game with him, i dont think he break any lowyat forum rules. Moderator, please reconsider. And darksider, jangan layan haters tu. Haters keep hating. Kalau shop kamu kene delete, its okay, i will buy from you

To be honest, I had continuously bought Steam games from both darksider and lornawhizz (the latest ones within the past month), and without doubt, both are offering prices that are competitive enough. In total, I had purchased over hundreds of Ringgit worth of games from both of them respectively.

I am not taking any sides in this dispute, but from my perspective, it seems like a business competition that had escalated into personal attacks and name-callings.

Perhaps there had been a misunderstanding between darksider and lornawhizz that can be settled without the need of any dispute threads being made.

To both darksider and lornawhizz,

Bros, you are both offering services to get games at lower prices than that on the Steam store. I seriously don't see the need for this to happen. Be civilized, both of you are not going to gain anything with all the mud-slinging done here, perhaps you both will lose potential buyers as well as past recurrent buyers.

A question to the moderator,
Given the fact that there are so much more threads that offers sell/trade of Steam games, why aren't those being targeted to be brought down as well?

I do not resort to name-callings and personal attack in fact. I have dealt with all with courteous and never do I need to resort to any of that as a long time forum member here.

The dispute thread is not about the fighting between me and him. I do not fight with him. I only service my customers and took care of my own shops.

The problem now is, all my shops are removed without breaking any violations in forum.

The cited violations by moderator lex are uncalled for, as I do not sell any accounts, in-game items or power leveling service as stated clearly in the rules.

Thanks bro. I'm not asking you to side with me or the other. This all started with darksider indirectly accusing me of selling copies of Skyrim Legendary Ed @ 23.88 (He edited his post to save his ass) that may get revoked. Later then in his Origin thread he indirectly attacked my Origin service by claiming my HOLA guide as unsafe. I recently submitted my guide to prove otherwise. Then later he promoted that he has found a 'perfected way' of buying games from HOLA Mexico and that I'm promoting ip spoofing, bla bla bla. Again thru my faq I shared my honest opinion about his bullshit (This guide to buy from Origin Mexico is freely available on the internet anyways). I admit I've indirectly called him a swindler for profiting so much over a freely available workaround. This could have continued as a harmless 'my words against yours' in both our threads. He obviously felt threatened and resorted to report on my Origin guide and buying service thread that got removed almost right away. I then returned the favor (a bit much haha). I pm'ed him and offered a truce just as he shared here but instead he created this thread. On top of that most other re-sellers (don't give me that bullshit of buying service crap, especially if you're profiting a lot) play the game thru competitive price and sales history. This guy claims many things that are against STEAM's, Origin's Uplay's TOS and tells potential customers it's ok and gives false guarantees. Fine, sell your bullshit but don't claim other sellers are unsafe, etc. As mentioned before ultimately all unofficial/unauthorized re-sellers are not allowed to sell/provide service here. It just so happens that the mods only work on a case by case basis i.e no reports=no action. That's why there's a hidden code among resellers here. Darksider broke the code.

because the moderator is not doing his research...just power abuse

I don't think it's abuse of power. If this forum officially allows unofficial/unauthorized traders to sell their wares I can guarantee you it'll get shutdown very soon. It's just that they're being lenient and 'close one eye' to benefit others while at the same time protecting themselves. A hell lot of forums similar to lyn do this anyways. But if there's a report they MUST act else it'll seem that they don't stick to the rules they implement if they don't. If your thread got reported then deleted I'm sure you'll return the favor. That's really what it's all about here.

Not quite sure about that bro....you really positive bout that?

Yeah bro. Should lex allow it I can share my private messages with him with you or anyone else. I was actually kinda rude but he remained calm and answered all my questions that made perfect sense

For all forumers

Please refer to the thread on skyrim legendary

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3349531&hl=

I am only creating an awareness among all forum members who may be purchasing the potential exploited copies of ROW that had been selling by russian traders in Steam Gift Forum rampantly for 3 TF2 Keys, and Steam in the past has taken action against copies bought this way through store exploit.

I do not target any particular buyers, just to inform forumer here that rethink about buying Skyrim Legendary edition region free copy that are sold below RM37 (which was the lowest price of region free copy sold in Brazillian store). The cheap one in russian steam store were 203 ruble (RM19) after conversion, and they are region locked on both play and activation.

Upon investigating, I found that most of the russian dealers were selling region free copy at about price of RM20-RM25, which were not possible for region free copy(As the cheapest one in record is rm37 from brazillian). I have searched around the net and realize the existence of such exploit, however it wasn't taught anywhere. As it was a javascript glitch and manipulation, I have managed to reproduce it as I am proficient with javascript.

I have even reproduced this and reported to steam about such exploit which they said they couldn't resolve and advice me not to redeem it as it may get revoked when they are clearing the payments to publishers.

In the particular thread, I was requesting lornawhizz to produce any proof of his purchase after his reply on the thread, however,

in his first post, he said he used his steam wallet that he accumulated long to buy.
in second post, he said about he got his games from amazon gifts card, and showed me example, he would buy a game with usd 50 gift card and sold it for rm50, as long as he pleases.
in his third post, he said about he wont tell me how he got the game et cetera.

I locked the thread so that he cannot edit out all the things he have said, as you can check in his profile, he edited a lot of his posts to '...' so people cannot find out what he has said and done should anything happen.

I hope this clears up.

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About the false warranty that someone claims:

In all my dealings, I have refunded in full without question a total of 4 in full amount to my customers as things did not work as expected, and they are shocked that I actually refunded in full, given the time I spent in assisting them, and helping them sort out the issues.

You may check my trade list that was still kept by me. For tradelist after number 61, I did not include forumer names as it was consuming too much resources for me to write all down, so I kept it simpler without citing names again.

In particular, these entries
6. Sold Plant Vs Zombie Garden Warfare Deluxe to Moonflown - REFUNDED AS THERE WERE IN-GAME ISSUES

38. Sold Black Ops 2 RU for agandul - REFUNDED FULL AS IT DID NOT WORK FOR MULTIPLAYER (1-2 MIN DC) BUT WORKED FOR ZOMBIE - GOT RM10 RETURN FROM HIM AS A TOKEN OF APPRECIATION

175) Sims 4 Standard - Refunded 90% (she agreed) as user did not like the game after playing it

195) Stronghold Crusader 2 - Was about to refund full without question to @riderz135 in full but eventually worked out the solution and no refund is needed



Successful TradeList[U]



This post has been edited by darksider: Sep 28 2014, 11:44 AM

See how desperate this joker is to convince people I'm the bad guy. I have a successful trades list I think the last 2 customers who bought Skyrim off me asked for prove and I happily provided. I don't need to entertain this pretentious fraudster. I know he probably NEVER scammed anyone's money. Just that he's successful in making people believe his bullshit. More emoticons!

Darksider pls learn basic business/consumer law. Your guarantees/warranties while honored by you does not apply in the court of law as you are NOT AN OFFICIALLY AUTHORIZED re-seller of Origin. If you're helping others to buy like a friend than you must do so FOR FREE and not for profit. By profiting you automatically create a business contract between you and the buyer which is AUTOMATICALLY VOID since YOU ARE NOT OFFICIALLY AUTHORIZED by ORIGIN. So your guarantess/warranties are false. In the future, should one of your buyers with hundreds of games in their account got caught somehow and unfortunately gets their account revoked there is NOTHING that can be done. Sure you can claim responsibility and maybe compensate that buyer. Would you be able to do so for all buyers? In the end if you're taken to court it will be filed as a FRAUD CASE. So yeah I can call you a pretentious fraudster. Wait for it....

I will speak for the last time. I am in no way trying desperately or non-desperately to convince people you are the bad guy.

You have reported all my shops citing wrong violations and caused them all to be removed.

You clearly violated the rules and regulations here when I reported your shop to moderator, as you created two topics selling the same service and bumped them on 27/9/2014.

This is against the trade forum rules and regulations (one topic per game rule).


You have also been suspected of creating multiple account called 'gambalagen' which are still needing verification from moderator to check using the logging of ip and all the system of tracing they implemented in this forum.

If you are indeed violating the rules, there are no way you can escape the judgement.

If I am violating any rules, I won't be escaping. However, I did not and so I voiced out all here for all to see, without need to hide anything.



I am completely exhausted mentally dealing with this issue and I will rest my case here.

If moderators have read it here I completely appreciate and are grateful. Should you feel that I don't deserve the punishment and harassment, I would greatly appreciate that all the wrong opinions, judgement and decisions are amended rightfully.

I won't ask for more from Lowyat moderators, as I believe most of you have own stuffs to deal with and some volunteer to help improve the community and I am truly grateful for that.

Thanks for reading. I will take a break now.

I have insomnia since yesterday and I lost appetite and motivation to do anythings. I need to get back strong and live my normal life.

If in the end I still couldn't get anything that I deserve back, I cannot do much, except that it is a great lesson for me that I learned the hard way.

If you're such a good guy you could've warned me instead rather then trigger-happily clicking the report button. At the time I was under the impression that My FREE Guide is an entity of its own as I provide my buying service in another thread. I just did a quick check on the forums and saw many other sellers who have a main store i.e. Steam and yet created new threads selling individual games already mentioned in their main thread. You didn't report on them no? Man up and admit you felt threatened by me and saw the easy way out.


ps: I actually wasn't 100% sure it was you who reported me but yeah thanks for confirming. this clearly shows it was personal

This post has been edited by lornawhizz: Sep 28 2014, 12:17 PM

And now by changing your complaint to my name instead of lex you're indirectly telling everyone in the Dispute Resolution Corner that I have scammed you somehow. But no, you're the angel in all of this

Again, say all you wish to say, edit out all you wish to edit.

People with conscience will have a very clear understanding of what actually happens.

I am going to leave this until moderators are giving a proper response.

I am also awaiting investigation of lornawhizz and gambalagen accounts which are suspected to be multiple accounts created under the same individual.

Until then

From the pass dealings with dardsider (steam and blizzard), I would say he is a trustworthy and hardworking guy! Never fails to reply to my queries even in the wee hours.
Steam gift is not steam account, period! From all the readings, I still can't find any justification to delete/closed all dardsider threads!

Like darksider said, closing of a topic is easy! But the effort and hard work it took to build up the thread is not!
Please reconsider LYN admins. (And hopefully a full recovery of the closed threads!)

From my experience Darksider has provided a fast and reliable service. If Origin themselves has said that he has not broken any ToU I dont see why do mods really have to remove all of his posts and erase his feedback history just like that. Mods should at least investigate and confirm he's clearly broken any rules before doing something like that. Pretty unfair to bully a living out of a guy just like that guys.

Well if he's honest he should tell Origin that he's also taking a small cut out of helping his 'friend'/buying as a gift. Lets's see if that still isn't breaking Origin's TOS. I dare you to write an email/chat with an Origin rep and say this:

"Hi. I'm from Malaysia and I would like to use my paid vpn service to buy a game at Origin's Mexico store for my friend because it's so much cheaper. In Ringgit Malaysia this would be about RM150 for the FIFA Ultimate game. By the way I'm taking a small RM30 cut as service charge to my friend. I hope this is ok...."

Go ahead. If it's not against Origin's TOS I'd personally send Darksider an apology hamper with a couple of Steam gifts thrown in. And.....

Good ole ifttt.com. Now I get a buzz whenever darksider and his supporters write something on my phone.

Can i get the steam gifts instead?

Hmmm. Under consideration...

Let me point out his bullshit disclaimer that indirectly attacked my guide since he decided to share it. He also posted a faq afterwards after I've proven that using HOLA is safe in terms of login/payment data, if done properly i.e. turning it off before logging in. He did use the word perfect, not perfected so apologies. Those in bold red are glaringly false claims. If I'm intrigued enough I'll be sharing this disclaimer soon at many places on the web so people can have a blast laughing and poking fun at it:

"I get all the products directly through Origin Store without the use of 3rd party supplier. Since Origin does not allow game gifting, in order to buy from me, I will need to have access to your account in which I will purchase directly for you through the store. Why is the price a lot cheaper than Origin store that you see?

As some fellow members of this forum have publicly revealed, EA exercises regional pricing, that is, the price of their products differs among countries. Some forumers even publicly share the ways to purchase them and offer the service for you in a small fee. However, the method that they use is through free HOLA internet unblocker, which is unsafe as you might expect from anything that is free. You can check this HOLA and HOLA 2 to know more about free HOLA. As a result, your credit card or paypal details may be vulnerable to the free IPs that you get connected to (as you can see in their website, most free VPN servers in HOLA are from peers, which can you any of the users using their service).

I do not use free HOLA VPN to purchase for you, but using a subscription-based VPN (Pure VPN in case you want to know) which is more secure and safe. Many users have tried to purchase through HOLA VPN but without success, and instead, they triggered the security system of Origin which resulted in them having 10048 error. There are many ways that can trigger the error such as when you use free HOLA VPN to access through your PayPal, or when you attempt to use credit card or debit card to purchase through different Origin store (Russia, Brazil etc) and when they recorded that there are different IPs that are far away from each other trying to use the Card (such as Malaysia IP and Mexico IP), they will flag your account. Some users have their account flagged permanently with 10048 error every time they try to purchase something in Origin, and in turn, I have to advise them to create new account which is free of such error. In some instances, the 10048 last a few days, but sometimes, it just never goes away, and Origin does not help to reset it.

If you use my service, I promise you that it will be free of that error, and you are free to purchase anything you like in the future with your account without experiencing such flagging of security. This is because I use a paid VPN and a verified Paypal account to purchase for you as well as that I have experimented the purchasing many times to perfect all the procedures to ensure that the accounts of all my customers do not experience any anomalies and is free of any issues after the orders.

If you want to buy from me, you have to give me access to your account. Read the procedure section below so that you know it is 100% safe from any malicious intents on my side when you pass me your account details. In addition, I have many positive feedbacks to back up my reputation and many returning customers too.

Last but not least, all products that you order from me are obtained through legal store and paid in full amount in legal tender, and they are all playable. If unplayable, you can get a Full Refund from me. And do not be worried about getting banned, there is no risk of getting ban as EA does allow it because they did not implement the gifting system, they have no choice but to allow their customers to help their friends or families to buy should customers need to do that. They have worked hard to prevent the arbitrageurs and hence you see all the 10048 errors which have no solutions."

Oh yeah, almost forgot....



This post has been edited by lornawhizz: Sep 28 2014, 02:52 PM

I think I'll start posting it at FIFA 15's official subreddit then the official FIFA 15 forum. Maybe then we'll get a direct response from an Origin rep. Tho this might completely ruin darksider if Origin should check/investigate fully. He did save his paypal details in all of his customer's accounts after all. Decisions, decisions....

One more time!

The disclaimer is solely my responsibility, and it is targeting only to my customers who decide to purchase from me. As you are not my customer, you are not entitled to question it.

I do not publicly post FAQ in any section other than the my own shop, for my shop visitors to see.

The following is under FAQ in my origin shop

1. Why could HOLA Unblocker be unsafe?[/b]

all i see here is this guy at the top of the page being a d***.

nothing more

This post has been edited by nikaizad: Sep 28 2014, 03:18 PM

To the offender of Lowyat.net forum here, you may speak more, but it doesn't remove the fact that

You have violated the forum rules as below:

- One topic per item. The creation of multiple topics for similar items will result in deletion of all the topics and a warning/suspension.

- Board rules apply. All other Lowyat.NET Rules & Regulations apply to Trade Zone as well.
* Do not troll or flame. Do not intentionally post inflammatory message.

* Do not spam, post unconstructively or open multiple threads with similar messages.

And also, you are being suspicious of violating the follow board rules, and it is awaiting investigation from relevant admins.

- Each user is entitled to ONE user account on the forums. We employ various tools which are effective in accurately detecting duplicate accounts. Registering additional accounts will result in temporary suspension to your main account and a permanent ban on your second (and subsequent) accounts.

[ For this particular evidence of multiple accounts that I have collected so far, refer to post #3 in this dispute thread ]


This post has been edited by darksider: Sep 28 2014, 03:23 PM

Yeah, it does seem so.... Sorry

That's pretty much saying my bullshit is only for my customers to believe or not. By any governing law when you put a disclaimer or statement of fact then anyone is free to question it. Are you running your own small country? I thought you're done here anyways....

just one this time

First and foremost, opening a sales thread specifically to sell Steam games thru the Steam Gifts method is against Steam's terms of service. Quote from Steam Gifts - Trading and Gifting - Knowledge Base - Steam Support...

Second, that is why we have a Stream trading thread in this forum: Entertainment -> Gamers Hideout -> Steampowered and Valve Games -> Steam Trading Thread V2, Still trading gifts? as not to violate that Steam terms of service, through direct trading. Thus by opening a sales thread specifically to sell those Steam Gifts clearly violates their terms of service.

Third, its clear as day that the thread starter is not an official appointed Steam game reseller. The official authorised resellers are: Amazon.com, Game.co.uk, Gamefly, GamersGate, PlayAsia, etc. And the thread starter's shop is not in this list.

Fourth, these Steam Gifts still fall under game accounts as well as game items. Each game "sold" is its own account and that includes the unique activation code/key allocated to that game. This is similar to selling activation code/keys for Microsoft products (which is illegal and can be legally pursued by the BSA and Microsoft themselves). This is the reason we have this: **Gamers Hideout Rules and Regulations**, Return to the forum...And also Trade Zone -> Garage Sales Helpdesk -> Resource Centre -> [RULES] Trade Zone Rules & Etiquette, Do read this from time to time # Prohibited items...And these specifically relates to games bought online. These does not apply to games bought in retail boxes/packages from shops and/or as second hand items.

This post has been edited by lex: Sep 28 2014, 03:55 PM

All you mentioned here are violations of Steam Shops in Lowyat Forum. However, I am not selling Steam Gifts in STEAM CLIENT, and Steam TOS is not under Lowyat.net jurisdiction, please be clear of that.

If you still insist to remove my Steam Shops, then I have nothing more to say. You can remove all the Steam Shops in Lowyat in this case, I believe, as a Steam user, I should report to proper channel that Lowyat.net is allowing hundred thousand of sales of Steam Gifts which violates Steam ToS since 2008, all in Garage Sales sections.

Although Lowyat.net in its disclaimer claims no responsibility in enforcing any of it, you are now still abusing your authority and removed my Steam shops when it is not within Lowyat.net jurisdiction as Lowyat.net relinquishes the responsibility. Speaking of double standard?



Putting all my Steam Shops aside, if you insist to remove then I have nothing much to say, as you are the most powerful person here.

However, all your claims above are not directing to my Origin Shop and Blizzard Shop, which are in no way violating any of their ToS. I have already refuted your claims with valid evidence, and hence I demand a restore of both of the shops and a proper apology.

Thanks for clearing that up. Tho I think the rules should reconsider keys or activation codes officially and legally bought from authorized stores i.e. Amazon, Humble Bundle, Greenmangaming etc. provided an official receipt from said stores are also handed over to the end customer. Online goods are still goods just not packaged in my understanding. If I have a newly bought graphics card but I can't use it and still have the receipt it would be alright for me to sell it here. Similarly if I purchase in bulk items from an authorized dealer I'm allowed to sell it here as well. Hence the rules I believe should be amended a bit to allow the selling for eg, extra keys bought from Humble, keys bought in bulk from Amazon, etc. It would still be officially warranted with an official receipt from these digital stores hence should be treated equally like other goods. The seller in this case is simply 'exchanging' what he/she legally obtained from the digital stores for money (complete with official receipt) and not claiming to be an official reseller and imho should be allowed. Of course this doesn't apply to Digital Online stores that clearly prohibits the reselling or transfer of licenses bought from their stores i.e. Origin, Steam, Uplay

This post has been edited by lornawhizz: Sep 28 2014, 04:23 PM

Lorna, if you may please approach the complaint in a mature and constructive way please. Reading through so much of your crap is giving me a headache, so much irrelevant smoke. Are you just trying to divert from the topic and sabotage TS's thread as well? Keep your calm, please.

Yup. Thanks for that. No more crap from me from now. Just properly constructed replies.... Then again apart from my emoticons 99% of my replies are relevant, if you think about it. People fail to notice that he started all this fiasco by reporting on me. Oh well, truth will out.

This post has been edited by lornawhizz: Sep 28 2014, 05:29 PM

Whatever the fact that may be (Steam's TOS), it does not apply to this forum. The rules here are against reselling Steam accounts and not Steam Games. Previous moderators have not found any fault with the other numerous Steam game resellers on this forum until lornawhizz decided to go on a reporting spree against his competitors. You are overreaching yourself by banning things which aren't stated in the rules just to cater to this one guy who himself is a reseller.

I only reported on darksider after he reported on me. I never reported on you or anyone else. Pls get your facts right.

Just because you decided to be an idiot in your spat with darksiders, the other resellers such as me are dragged into this. I have good faith that it'll be resolved eventually once the admins get involved for this overreach of power by this one moderator but you're the one who poked the bees nest. The blame is on you.

I suppose if we trade places and your thread gets reported then deleted, you'll just stay quiet? How noble.... Oh yeah in case if you wanna play that but you're obviously violating the forum's rules with dupe threats blabla then as a fellow seller why not darksider or even you yourself pm and warn me first. The initial report by darksider is 100% a personal attack on me and now you just want to join his crew.

lol okay this explains quite a lot then.
Why did he report against you?

If you read the thread from the very beginning you'd know bro. Anyways here's my recollection of events that lead to this carnival:

The history of my spite with darksider:

1. There was a sale on Skyrim: Legendary and I simply offered copies at the cheapest price which is RM23.88. Then in the guise of a warning to all he wrote a fairly long thread indirectly accusing me of selling games that might get revoked. His original post (before he edited it out) clearly mentioned my unique price of RM23.88 rather than a blanket by saying eg: Be weary of purchasing Skyrim for less than RM30

2. I started a buying service for Origin games @ RM1.88 fee per order and also provided a free guide on how to do it. After finding out or maybe after seeing how I'm starting to gain customers he wrote this in his disclaimer:

"As some fellow members of this forum have publicly revealed, EA exercises regional pricing, that is, the price of their products differs among countries. Some forumers even publicly share the ways to purchase them and offer the service for you in a small fee. However, the method that they use is through free HOLA internet unblocker, which is unsafe as you might expect from anything that is free. You can check this HOLA and HOLA 2 to know more about free HOLA. As a result, your credit card or paypal details may be vulnerable to the free IPs that you get connected to (as you can see in their website, most free VPN servers in HOLA are from peers, which can you any of the users using their service).

I do not use free HOLA VPN to purchase for you, but using a subscription-based VPN (Pure VPN in case you want to know) which is more secure and safe. Many users have tried to purchase through HOLA VPN but without success, and instead, they triggered the security system of Origin which resulted in them having 10048 error. There are many ways that can trigger the error such as when you use free HOLA VPN to access through your PayPal, or when you attempt to use credit card or debit card to purchase through different Origin store (Russia, Brazil etc) and when they recorded that there are different IPs that are far away from each other trying to use the Card (such as Malaysia IP and Mexico IP), they will flag your account. Some users have their account flagged permanently with 10048 error every time they try to purchase something in Origin, and in turn, I have to advise them to create new account which is free of such error. In some instances, the 10048 last a few days, but sometimes, it just never goes away, and Origin does not help to reset it.

If you use my service, I promise you that it will be free of that error, and you are free to purchase anything you like in the future with your account without experiencing such flagging of security. This is because I use a paid VPN and a verified Paypal account to purchase for you as well as that I have experimented the purchasing many times to perfect all the procedures to ensure that the accounts of all my customers do not experience any anomalies and is free of any issues after the orders."

I see that as an indirect & direct attack on my service as I'm the only one providing it at the moment. That really sealed it. To me personally he is in fact a swindler for peddling false claims, warranties and profiting over freely available information on the internet. Google Origin Mexico HOLA VPN to know more.

3. I rewrote my guide to stress on how HOLA can be used safely and to retaliate on his bogus claims I wrote a faq. I guess I went a bit much by writing this in my Origin service thread "My 100% free guide is finished. Help me curb sales from swindling resellers who profit from freely available information on the internet." To clarify, you can get FIFA 15 Ultimate edition for abt RM150 via Origin Mexico. His so called service is selling for abt RM180. So to me that's swindling plus I'm already angry about him trying to scare off other potential customers from my service.

4. He retaliated too with his own faq with more bogus claims.

5. I don't know at what point but he probably felt threatened by me or just got really angry and rather than duke it out in the forums he decided to report on both of my Origin threads. These two threads of mine were taken down almost immediately after the report. After a series of private messages with the mod who closed down my threads, I then decided to return the favor but with a much bigger impact

6. And here we are today.

If you ever read my threads you'll know that I've never made false claims/warranties just to get customers or scare other customers away from other sellers. Even when I had to fight it out I only speak the truth. So there. Now you know....

Its one of the unethical attitude from the complaint, sabotage people business, spreading wild rumors, malicious defamation. I dont see any good intention in lodging the complaint other than the reason to bring down the seller's reputation. Im one of his clients, and I'm happy to say his service is more than awesome, fast and friendly. Yes, he did say perfect way. But who are u to judge what is perfect than us. If we, the clients think is perfect way, who are you to say no? Judging from competitor's perspective? Nah... i dont think so. So please be more fair and square.

Just give us a break. The more you saying, the more you making nuisance of yourself. If we, the client think is the perfect way, who are you to judge? Based on competitor's perspective. Com'on. He doesn't make you evil, but all your words and explanation do.

You must be blinded by your loyalty. Let me put it to you in simple terms. lornawhizz= A, darksider = B

A sells Skyrim for RM23.88
B says RM23.88 can possibly get revoked (scaring away customers from me and actually other sellers too)

A starts Origin buying service for RM1.88 and offers a free guide on how to buy from Origin Mexico using HOLA VPN
B claims HOLA is unsafe and can lead to the lost of purchasers login/payment details

A re-wrote and offered a very extensive guide to show that using HOLA is 100% safe in terms of user's login/payment details ( you turn it off before logging in actually)
B claims A is promoting ip-spoofing, faking purchase data bla bla bla

A has had enough of B's bullshit and retaliated with a faq to fight off B's bogus claims and indirect personal attack on his service
B at first continued/retaliated with more bogus claims but finally decided to take the cowards route and reported on A


All the while I was just defending my service/free guide from your good friend who is 'indirectly' attacking me with his bogus claims. You're saying I should just swallow and take it laying down? Are you that naive? Is he being fair to my service/sales? Boohoo I reported him so he created this thread to gain sympathy with his pretentious oh, I'm so innocent attitude. But it's 100% ok for him to chicken out and report on me in the first place? How blind you are....

His immature replies make me sick reading them.
Btw,i feel that mods are being kinda undair to darksider.

Apologies for my immature replies that make you sick. I think I should repeat what I told the other supporter since people find it hard to understand what's really going on. So, again let me put it to you in simple terms.

lornawhizz= A
darksider = B

A sells Skyrim for RM23.88
B says RM23.88 can possibly get revoked (scaring away customers from me and actually other sellers too)

A starts Origin buying service for RM1.88 and offers a free guide on how to buy from Origin Mexico using HOLA VPN
B claims HOLA is unsafe and can lead to the lost of purchasers login/payment details

A re-wrote and offered a very extensive guide to show that using HOLA is 100% safe in terms of user's login/payment details ( you turn it off before logging in actually)
B claims A is promoting ip-spoofing, faking purchase data bla bla bla

A has had enough of B's bullshit and retaliated with a faq to fight off B's bogus claims and indirect personal attack on his service
B at first continued/retaliated with more bogus claims but finally decided to take the cowards route and reported on A


All the while I was just defending my service/free guide from your good friend who is 'indirectly' attacking me with his bogus claims. You're saying I should just swallow and take it laying down? Are you that naive? Is he being fair to my service/sales? Boohoo I reported him so he created this thread to gain sympathy with his pretentious oh, I'm so innocent attitude. But it's 100% ok for him to chicken out and report on me in the first place? Very immature of me

Because of these two geniuses reporting each other my threads got deleted as well.

Lol. U or other seller as well? i mean excluding darsider and lorniz

I don't know who else got affected but when I woke up this morning my most recent threads were gone Turns out these two numbskulls were behind it all. I dropped a PM to all relevant moderators/admins asking wtf was going on but I have yet to receive a reply. Apparently you need to post a complaint publicly before anyone bothers

Edit: See this quote here:

These two idiots were behind it all reporting each other's threads. I'm pretty sure the moderator is mistaken in his interpretation of the rules (can't blame him, the rules are in a foreign language; English, after all ) and that our businesses comply with the rules but it is freaking inconvenient to have to deal with this and the loss of information on a weekend. Just because these two kids can't deal with each other they have to drag everyone else into the crossfire. Apis_lualua did not clamp down on this even though it was going on for years. He's the head honcho of the tradezone and he posted in one of my threads asking me to fix my title. That's all. He didn't point out that my (or anyone else's) game sales threads were against the rules. He should know best after all. Like I said, this guy is wrong in his interpretation. It'll get fixed when someone higher up gets online. Seeing as how it's a weekend, it's gonna take awhile.

This post has been edited by red streak: Sep 28 2014, 09:46 PM

No kidding. Even talexeh thread got deleted

I know and can swear on whatever that is holy that I didn't report on you. Mods claim they only act upon a report. So you were backing up darksider before. Did you stop to consider that he might actually benefit from reporting on you? I mean you did accuse me so maybe it was part of his plan... I hope mods can confirm that I only reported on darksider and no one else. I suspect he may be behind this to rile up supporters against me, so yeah, before all of you start accusing me pls do confirm who reported on who first.

This post has been edited by lornawhizz: Sep 28 2014, 09:47 PM

what he meant is, not u report on him but the feud betwwen u and darksider cause other seller';s thread to be deleted as well.

As I said, mods claim they'll only act upon a report. I don't know if that has changed....

Doesn't matter who report who. Because of you two fighting, now all sellers are affected.

I may have reacted harshly by reporting on all of darksider's threads. But I didn't create any threads blaming mods and asking for 'justice' when he first reported on me. In this thread his supporters called lex stupid and himself 'demanded' apology from lex. This could simply end with my reporting of his thread. I offered a truce before he created this thread and he could just have accepted it and re-create his topic and continue selling. So if you ask me.....

This post has been edited by lornawhizz: Sep 28 2014, 10:13 PM

Because of you two asshats reporting each other's threads like a bunch of 5 years old has caused other sellers' threads being deleted who has far better reputation and recognition than both of you. Great job in ruining the market for everyone else as there are a lot of people who doesnt have a credit or debit card to buy digital games.

If both of you have issues between each other, then, resolve it between both of you, not dragging the mods in who deleted all the other seller's threads on selling digital games. Both of you might repost a new thread selling your games but what about people like talexeh, thornduck, red streak and so on who has does this way longer before both of you? Years of testimonials from their trusted customers are all gone due to both of your childish behavior. Yet, still continue to point fingers at each other till now.

And thanks for ruining the market for the rest of us who does not rely on these services because both of your exploitative business ethics will eventually encourage publishers and store owners, ie: Steam to impose stricter region locks upon our games. Using any methods to bypass region lock is an offence that might ban your account and same goes with mass gifting of Steam games with regional pricing will also resulted your Steam account to be banned.

This should be escalated on to the main feedback forums.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Sep 28 2014, 10:58 PM

lornawhizz darksider

Thanks for ruining everything.

And to the mod, up yours.

Damn... some trusted seller's thread had been removed. Sigh. Steam Trading thread not that reliable or you cant get the things you want. I hope other Mod/Admin to reconsider this issue.

1+

This post has been edited by Gneko86: Sep 28 2014, 11:15 PM

Come on mod ... i never had problem with darksider my lastest purchase fifa15 good seller..
he never scam or anything.

If i need to side with anyone, it will be darksider, as lornawhizz's posts showed that he's immature.

What a fiasco.

Anyway, I dont see any issue buying a gift as a service, it is in no way selling an account. It is just selling a game.

Btw, why so much drama trying to justify something that is so weak (the decision that says steam gift = steam account that is)

On lorna's point about A and B seller. Aint that what happen in real world? Need mod's discussion on this issue to resolved this ie whos 'shit' is the real shit.

As a user, I believe we (users) are mature enough to decide on our own wehter to buy or not to buy, from seller whom we trusted (blindly or otherwise).

First of all, I sincerely thank all of the fellow members, who may or may not have dealt with me in Garage Sales, that decided to help me voice out. I am also extremely grateful that you risk yourself being warned in this forum for pointing out what your common sense dictates having seen a clear picture in this saga.

Also, there are many forum members here who could not care less to find out what really happened before they flamed me and associated me with the forum member who actually committed offense.For some of them, especially Mr Cheesenium, has offended and accused me in a forum topic entitled "The Crew" in gaming subforum. I did report him due to his misconduct, but there was no action taken which of course make sense now to me.

As many of you may have seen in this fiasco, the staff moderator acted in such biased ways and his decisions to show me red card and insisted that I committed violence that did not make sense to me, and citing me all the things that defied my common sense have flabbergasted me. This is my first time dealing with moderator of this forum since 2006 and it gives me a small perspective on the quality of staffs in Lowyat.net.

In fact, I have introduced two forum members here to visit Lornawhizz Origin Shop to use his service because at that point of time I could not process any orders due to hectic schedules.

As Garage Sale is an open subforum, all members could easily compare prices and then decide who they will buy from based on their will.

In economics, the basic law of supply and demand dictates that if price decreases, quantity demanded increases and vice versa. Applying it the competitive markets in Garage Sales, if supplier A is selling at low price and supplier B is selling at high price, ceteris paribus (all else equal), A will have more demand than B.

However, in business, in order to edge out your competitor, you need to have competitive advantages. The competitive advantages could be your marketing skill, attitude, friendliness, and many more, which can potentially be any traits, skills or attributes. Hence, it is easy to figure out that supplier with considerable competitive advantages will easily outdo his competitors despite selling the same thing at higher price, as it gives more value to potential consumers who always wish to maximize their utility, given their limited resources.

So to label your competitors swindlers because they have better competitive advantage, and more consumers buying from him, is ludicrous and unlawful.

However, ever since the first civilizations, there have always been dysfunctional people who are out there to create troubles. Just look at us, everything is backwards and upside down. Even after 5000 years past first civilization, we still see so many abnormalities, injustices, corruptions, abuses, and all the wrong things that we see today.

Such disorders, from the sociology point of view, are inevitable in societies. We are all bound to be treated unfairly, bullied, prosecuted, accused, alleged, flamed and many more in some point of our life. Many people have experienced it and even many more are experiencing it and now it is my turn. I cannot control what other want to say or do, but I can control my actions. In this scenario, the most I can do is to voice out for myself, however fruitless, at least when I recall back in future, I know I have tried. The outcome is no longer important, as whatever it may be, the worst case scenario is always death which almost of us will go through at some point in future.

So, I guess that is it for me. I believe it is time that I wave goodbye for Lowyat.net having been using it since 2006 and have been continually benefited by contributions of fellow members in many different parts of my life which I am thankful for. However, this incident has caused me experience depressions, loss of appetite, exhaustion, and insomnia for the past 25 hours and to the point that it greatly impacts my integrity and daily life.

Hence, I believe this is the right time that I waved goodbye to Lowyat.net for which I will never visit again and for moderators, I wish not to be affiliated with Lowyat.net anymore and here I request the cancellation of my Lowyat forum account and that all the contents that I have contributed and posted to be deleted permanently.

This dispute thread is ended. Whatever decision that may be taken by relevant authority after this is no longer an interest to me, so at here I would close the dispute thread.

*To forum members who know me personally, you may contact me elsewhere should you wish to have contact with me as I won't be logging in ever, regardless of whether this account deletion request is executed.

This post has been edited by darksider: Sep 29 2014, 02:57 AM

To all the reader of this posts and all the steam shop owners who are innocent and have had your shops removed by lex,

Please scroll to the section in blue below if you want to retrieve your pages with all your customer feedback, Google cache has saved most in 25 September and hopefully include yours.

I do not need to explain much, if you have read what I said, I am not the bad guy as I have been labeled as.

I have deleted all my personal messages in my account including more than 15 PM's (more than 15 letters) all written with courteous and professionally to lex but 95% of them have been unattended and I only received lacklustre reply from him with all his ignorant claims.

Even when I reported lornawhizz, I listed all the violations he had had committed with details and said that should lornawhizz indeed violate the rule, his shops have to be closed in order to be fair to all the traders.

I only need to say once, I reported only lornawhizz who has indeed violated the trade forum rules and regulations and I have no qualms with any other of you, even after knowing some of you reported me to Steam for selling region-locked copies during end of September, I did nothing to retaliate but just revamped my shops. I don't troll or flame people to gain advantage or whatever, if anything, I still respect and do not rage even people have treated me very badly and offended me. I do not react much usually, unless someone has threatened my integrity, alleged and flamed me for doing things that I never did.

In the countless exchanges with lex, in which initially I thought he would be at least a good moderator as LYN is such reputed forum in Malaysia. However, I found that I was wrong when he finally replied me in PM. Having realized his obnoxious ignorance and his embrace of over-extending of power, I sensed his double standard and posted a few links asking him why many of the threads selling the Steam Gift are still there since 2008? I posted a few links to him (including redstreak, deltaboy5 and 2 others which I forgot) and asked him if selling of Steam Gift is selling of Steam Account, then why LYN still allowed many of the shops to operate as long as 3 years without taking actions? I neither report nor ask him to remove any of the shops that I linked to him that to question his double-standard antics.

However, in his subsequent reply, he said that he would take actions against all of the shops that are linked. Of course, when he removed it, it would directly means that I am causing all of the aforementioned shops to be removed, however, I never click the "report" function, nor do I request any investigation to be done on those links. If anything, the actions are solely decided and taken by him. I do not, in any possible way, request/imply/report to him to remove any of the shops.

I understand that you guys must have been feeling really bad having lost most of the shops without trace, just like what I had been feeling from 7pm two days ago to 10pm yesterday. I never want to sabotage any of you, nor do I have the need and intention to do that. As you may already know, lex has over-exercised his authority power as though as he is a legal law enforcer or representative of said external organizations.

Should he not amend all of his follies which I have little hope on, you can thank Google for helping most of you out. Many of the cache pages have been saved and you may retrieve here freely (it is without the control of Lowyat.net)

http://www.cachedpages.com/

Search it with this address

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/xxxxxxx, replace xxxxxxx with your topic numbers, which can retrieve it by visiting your removed shop. Google did save most of it on 25 September, it will be a complete one-page with all your customer feedbacks. Quickly save it before LYN takes any action like they are the legal enforcer of all entities.



Regarding moderator lex, as much as I really hate to say it, is nothing more than a smart alex who has been over-exercising his authority power for which he has been endorsed and delegated to by the admins of LYN. His embrace on persistent ignorance is definitely a let off and since he is a staff of LYN, reputation of LYN may not be as good for most forum members who have read what he said. So what is really wrong with our smart alex moderator?

Just head over and read LYN disclaimers on Trade Zone (https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=266390)

The first entry in main rules of trade zone is

Disclaimer: Lowyat.NET is not responsible for any transactions conducted here.

By putting such disclaimer, LYN will not be held liable and responsible for any disputes or losses that may occur in trades. So, if they are relinquishing responsibility, it means by LAW, they are not supposed to get involved in any of them, as they already claimed no responsibility. So, why would they do this? They create an open platform for traders to come in and attract millions of views each day, they earn revenue from ads and at the same time, takes no responsibility for anything happens there, so why not? The only cost is the bandwidth and storage cost which are little compared to the revenue generated from ads on the page views alone.

With this disclaimer, in fact when LYN pulled himself out, they have no longer have any right to amend any posts in the trade zones. They have no right to intercept or intervene any of the the topics in trade zone. Doing so would automatically make them held responsible for all the fraud, scam cases that happened in Garage Sales. Any Lawyers, or aspiring Lawyers or anyone with knowledge on Law would understand this.

The only time they can make amendments is when any of the users violated the following


Again, anyone with basic Law knowledge would know that the first entry which is their disclaimer to remove any responsibility on fraud/scam/disputes would automatically cancel all other jurisdictions which they claim. Because by enforcing any entries in the spoiler content above, they inherently violate their disclaimer that they are not responsible for any transactions.

Without their disclaimer, should any dispute occur, they are directly the accomplice to all the crimes resulted from transactions that were done on Trade forum.

I am actually very tired so I just keep things short.

lex insistence that Steam Gift = Steam account, and also his obsession with being self-proclaimed legal representative of Origin, Steam, Sony or all the companies that may involve is really laughable. His claims on various things which he is not proficient with and acting like he knows it after some Googling is laughable, citing ToS wrongly in the case of buying via others account on Origin (which is not against term of use in Origin as confirmed by Origin Support) is also stupid.

For many of you that are affected, I have slim hope that lex would amend his follies which are obvious for people to see, your hope should be on other moderators who are of better quality and common sense, and not as smart alex as he is.

I don't know how many have already lost their respect to lex, but I am sure I do.

Anyway, this is my last post. I reactivated the account in order to help other innocences who have been pulled down by lex altogether.

Dear all,

After some debate among the moderating team, we have decided to allow selling of Steam Games as long as it doesnt violate our TOS/R&R

However do take note that selling of gaming accounts are still prohibited. Do help us mods to report those forumers who violate this Rule.

Cheers!

darksider

This post has been edited by tarvalslain87: Sep 29 2014, 03:04 PM

Awesomesauce. Could you guys restore my threads as well? I'm not sure what the urls are anymore but I'm missing at least 3 including my main sales thread here: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2925882

CC: lex Apis_lualua

Thanks for the good news.

My next question is, how do I apply for my thread to be reinstated / dis-invi'd? I sincerely hope that we don't have to recreate our thread from scratch since all the testimonials would be gone.

My thread URL is http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1462710

Many thanks in advance.

EDIT: Just confirmed that my thread is back online. Thank you very much once again!

This post has been edited by talexeh: Sep 29 2014, 03:20 PM

that idiot already gone, and hopefully it'll stay that way. wanna fight, keep it to yourself. no need to bring the whole forum down by playing victim. same goes to the other guy.

and please restore those deleted sales thread that got nothing to do with the fight.

Ill try to recover those threads. Hopefully I can find all of them.

Btw to remind again, Lex is not wrong. He is doing his job based on Steam's TOS and protecting you guys. Please refer to the URL below,

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article...d=549#sellgifts

Selling gifts is violating Steam's TOS and account will be banned. If Steam decided to take action, all seller's account will be banned.

So move on and chill.

Cheers!