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post Sep 27 2014, 03:30 AM, updated 12y ago

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In general, people will judge them like "he's evil, Islam dont allow tattoos" and some bs like that lol, like its taboo. Im a Malay myself and I'd like to have a few later on, and I'd just like to hear your opinion.

How about in career? Do people w tattoos get discriminated (job interviews, etc)?

Or any Muslim by name/practising Muslim here that has tattoos and get shunned by society? Or got weird looks? Maybe some Imam tried to preach? Or if family outcast them because of it?

Reason why I said Malays because Malays are usually Muslim.

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post Sep 27 2014, 03:35 AM

 
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Someone disagrees on your tattoos is it?
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If u wanna talk based on Islam, then ya, it's wrong and u will b shunned for it.
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post Sep 27 2014, 03:36 AM

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post Sep 27 2014, 03:39 AM


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But let's try to do this rationally shall we?

Tattoo is still a taboo to most professional jobs. I have a friend who got to the final stage of interview, for a world class symphonic show, but was not picked because of her tattoo.

Sure, you can cry foul all day and blame oldfarts for being narrow minded, etc. But it's not going to help your cause? Yes, professionals still discriminate against inked people. If you want to get a tattoo, please understand and accept the repercussions. And don't do it in such an obvious place like your neck or forearm, unless you're the #YOLO or #TATTOO4LYFE type.


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QUOTE(mafioso @ Sep 27 2014, 03:35 AM)
Someone disagrees on your tattoos is it?
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Don't have one yet. I'm just asking
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QUOTE(bakry @ Sep 27 2014, 03:35 AM)
If u wanna talk based on Islam, then ya, it's wrong and u will b shunned for it.
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Muslims now are pretty open. European Muslims mostly, but in Singapore Malays have tattoos too and they don't get weird looks over there. Here people will freak out. One thing funny about Muslims over here is they can drink, go clubbing, have pre-marital sex, but tattoos, keeping dogs and eating pork are no-no. Weird
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post Sep 27 2014, 03:52 AM

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Singapore a lot of Malays have tattoos whether men or women. Not the religious types la of course.

And I meant tattoos in open areas like wrists, lower leg, upper breast, neck etc. Places where your casual clothes can't hide.

SG people don't really care about it. In fact I think most of the heavily tattooed people I see commonly in SG are Malays.

I don't believe that Malay thinks another Malay is 'evil' just because he has a tattoo. Maybe think of him as less religious or even rebellious.


Either way, I don't think MY is so hardcore to force Malays to remove their tattoos. But maybe discourage or even worse punish them.

But you have to live with the stigma la if you want to put ink on your skin.

Maybe your future wife might not like it, your in laws might not like it, your own family not like it etc.


Even for Chinese also depend on what tattoo you put. IF tiger, dragon, etc. always people will say you are gangster la etc. If you put butterfly, no one will care.

Not all Chinese parent like their kids getting tattoos as well since its associated commonly with gangsterism.

But modern tattoos these days are more for decoration rather than meaning. So I guess nowadays more acceptable to put tattoos even for conservative families children.

I think a few friends of mine kinda regret putting like devil faces, skulls, gore tattoos etc. coz while it looked cool then, it's f***ing ugly man after 15 years looking at it everyday. sweat.gif
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post Sep 27 2014, 03:53 AM

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QUOTE(Intimidated @ Sep 27 2014, 03:39 AM)
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But let's try to do this rationally shall we?

Tattoo is still a taboo to most professional jobs. I have a friend who got to the final stage of interview, for a world class symphonic show, but was not picked because of her tattoo.

Sure, you can cry foul all day and blame oldfarts for being narrow minded, etc. But it's not going to help your cause? Yes, professionals still discriminate against inked people. If you want to get a tattoo, please understand and accept the repercussions. And don't do it in such an obvious place like your neck or forearm, unless you're the #YOLO or #TATTOO4LYFE type.
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Great post. And no, I'm not doing it for showing off, like mermaids on my arms etc lol. Probably like words? Or name of my mom w different language. Get it? Personal stuff and simple. Society in general will still consider it a big sin though, right? Lmao

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QUOTE(99problems @ Sep 27 2014, 03:53 AM)
Great post. And no, I'm not doing it for showing off, like mermaids on my arms etc lol. Probably like words? Or name of my mom w different language. Get it? Personal stuff and simple. Society in general will still consider it a big sin though, right? Lmao
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As long as you can cover it, I doubt people will care much. I mean having a tattoo on the neck is pretty hardcore as it is, even if it is a "I love mom" tattoo.
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post Sep 27 2014, 03:56 AM

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Ruling On Tattoos In Islam

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The 86th Muzakarah (Conference) of the Fatwa Committee National Council of Islamic Religious Affairs Malaysia held on 21st-24th April 2009 has discussed ruling on tattoos in Islam. The Committee has decided that from the Islamic law, ruling on tattoos, both the tattoo maker and the one who is tattooed are forbidden. Hence, the Committee has decided that a person who had been tattooed should repent and be remorseful. He should remove the tattoo using current technology method if it does not cause any harm.
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post Sep 27 2014, 04:06 AM

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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Sep 27 2014, 03:52 AM)
Singapore a lot of Malays have tattoos whether men or women. Not the religious types la of course.

And I meant tattoos in open areas like wrists, lower leg, upper breast, neck etc. Places where your casual clothes can't hide.

SG people don't really care about it. In fact I think most of the heavily tattooed people I see commonly in SG are Malays.

I don't believe that Malay thinks another Malay is 'evil' just because he has a tattoo. Maybe think of him as less religious or even rebellious.
Either way, I don't think MY is so hardcore to force Malays to remove their tattoos. But maybe discourage or even worse punish them.

But you have to live with the stigma la if you want to put ink on your skin.

Maybe your future wife might not like it, your in laws might not like it, your own family not like it etc.
Even for Chinese also depend on what tattoo you put. IF tiger, dragon, etc. always people will say you are gangster la etc. If you put butterfly, no one will care.

Not all Chinese parent like their kids getting tattoos as well since its associated commonly with gangsterism.

But modern tattoos these days are more for decoration rather than meaning. So I guess nowadays more acceptable to put tattoos even for conservative families children.

I think a few friends of mine kinda regret putting like devil faces, skulls, gore tattoos etc. coz while it looked cool then, it's f***ing ugly man after 15 years looking at it everyday.  sweat.gif
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Lol at the butterfly 😂 the 'evil' is just an example. I mean they will still get judged on. My cousin, who's a female got a tattoo a while back, stars on both inside part of the wrist. Caused a stir in the family while raya. But it got okay, like they were just like "f*** it, its your life" lol. Oh! How about if at mosque? Will kena halau ah? XD
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QUOTE(vandar59 @ Sep 27 2014, 03:56 AM)
Ruling On Tattoos In Islam

Decision:

The 86th Muzakarah (Conference) of the Fatwa Committee National Council of Islamic Religious Affairs Malaysia held on 21st-24th April 2009 has discussed ruling on tattoos in Islam. The Committee has decided that from the Islamic law, ruling on tattoos, both the tattoo maker and the one who is tattooed are forbidden. Hence, the Committee has decided that a person who had been tattooed should repent and be remorseful. He should remove the tattoo using current technology method if it does not cause any harm.
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I think the only way to remove tattoos effectively now is by laser cutting or burning right? As far as I know, all removal methods are more painful and scarring compared to the tattooing itself. And there is no guarantee that the tattoo will be completely removed.


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post Sep 27 2014, 04:11 AM

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QUOTE(99problems @ Sep 27 2014, 04:06 AM)
Lol at the butterfly 😂 the 'evil' is just an example. I mean they will still get judged on. My cousin, who's a female got a tattoo a while back, stars on both inside part of the wrist. Caused a stir in the family while raya. But it got okay, like they were just like "f*** it, its your life" lol. Oh! How about if at mosque? Will kena halau ah? XD
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Wrist is actually an open area. Hard to cover. Meaning these tattoos are meant for show. If you are Muslim and don't mind explaining yourself frequently...

But me not Muslim, so do not know how a mosque community treat tattooed people.

My friend is Chinese convert with quite a few tattoo, surely during washing up in the mosque before prayer sure all the 'devil, gore' tattoos be seen. Never asked him before if he kena tegur before or not. But he still has his tattoos so...
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To be recognized/considered a malay u have to be muslim .. its like in the rules or something..cant remember which.

Anyway for me tattoo is like a no no for me.. artistic design or not it just in my own honest opinion destroy the look of a person. And for me its already clear its a no no in religion as well. open minded or not when it comes to religion you cant just make your own rule.
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post Sep 27 2014, 04:26 AM

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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Sep 27 2014, 04:11 AM)
Wrist is actually an open area. Hard to cover. Meaning these tattoos are meant for show. If you are Muslim and don't mind explaining yourself frequently...

But me not Muslim, so do not know how a mosque community treat tattooed people.

My friend is Chinese convert with quite a few tattoo, surely during washing up in the mosque before prayer sure all the 'devil, gore' tattoos be seen. Never asked him before if he kena tegur before or not. But he still has his tattoos so...
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I'm pretty sure he gets the 'looks', but since he's Chinese they'll probably understand. Haven't seen a Malay thats tattooed enter a mosque, I don't think there is ever one. Probably will have some KKK kind of sh*t if they found out a Malay with tattoos in their mosque, lmao.
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QUOTE(PeinEVO @ Sep 27 2014, 04:20 AM)
To be recognized/considered a malay u have to be muslim .. its like in the rules or something..cant remember which.

Anyway for me tattoo is like a no no for me.. artistic design or not it just in my own honest opinion destroy the look of a person. And for me its already clear its a no no in religion as well. open minded or not when it comes to religion you cant just make your own rule.
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You dislike them, I get it. Some people beg to differ. I don't see it as art, for me its something more personal. My body is my canvas, and I can paint it how I want. Not that I'm gonna paint the whole canvas and show everyone lol, thats silly imo. Like, getting tattoos to show off, kinda silly.

And about religion, frankly, I don't give a damn. I believe there is a God, but religion? Its nothing but a political tool.
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QUOTE(99problems @ Sep 27 2014, 04:26 AM)
I'm pretty sure he gets the 'looks', but since he's Chinese they'll probably understand. Haven't seen a Malay thats tattooed enter a mosque, I don't think there is ever one. Probably will have some KKK kind of sh*t if they found out a Malay with tattoos in their mosque, lmao.
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Hahaha, well it's your risk to take putting tattoos.

Even if you aren't a Malay, having tattoos comes with some sort of stigma. While it certainly not taboo, it isn't common enough yet especially if you have an outrageous looking tattoo.

Personally I like seeing women with thigh tattoos. Those full leg color tattoos are mesmerising. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(99problems @ Sep 27 2014, 03:47 AM)
Muslims now are pretty open. European Muslims mostly, but in Singapore Malays have tattoos too and they don't get weird looks over there. Here people will freak out. One thing funny about Muslims over here is they can drink, go clubbing, have pre-marital sex, but tattoos, keeping dogs and eating pork are no-no. Weird
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Why would you follow majority ?
Are you really following islam or youre following the people (muslims in this case ) ?
Alot of muslim in other parts of the world didn't freakout looking tattoos on us does not mean its halal to have tattoos . Haraam is still haraam .
Hukum was not created by our grandmother that was claimed old fashioned way of thinking or whatsoever , its His command .

And dont be generalize bro . Not all muslims go to club , drink alcohol etc. There's some but not all . They who did those things does not practicing the correct way of islam . Islam didnt teach us to do all those things .

This is my opinion . I have lots of muslims friends with tattoos , no i didnt freakout .
Its just wrong to do so as a muslim .
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QUOTE(arul94 @ Sep 27 2014, 04:40 AM)
Why would you follow majority ?
Are you really following islam or youre following the people (muslims in this case ) ?
Alot of muslim in other parts of the world didn't freakout looking tattoos on us does not mean its halal to have tattoos . Haraam is still haraam .
Hukum was not created by our grandmother that was claimed old fashioned way of thinking or whatsoever , its His command . 

And dont be generalize bro . Not all muslims go to club , drink alcohol etc. There's some but not all . They who did those things does not practicing the correct way of islam . Islam didnt teach us to do all those things .

This is my opinion . I have lots of muslims friends with tattoos , no i didnt freakout .
Its just wrong to do so as a muslim .
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I think TS already quite clear about his stance on religion.

Yup, it's wrong in the eyes of religion. I think this is already quite clear from the beginning.


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in my old days, malay with tatoos = x-con.
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Just to note, tattoos are generalized as pagan/gang related stuff in most urban society. Also seen as a delinquent.
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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Sep 27 2014, 04:45 AM)
I think TS already quite clear about his stance on religion.

Yup, it's wrong in the eyes of religion. I think this is already quite clear from the beginning.
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Ts already know that muslims here will freakout , indirectly it will affect his life , social and jobs , at least here in malaysia which ts already aware bout it .He have the answer to his own question .



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you dont need "muh islam, muh malays" to get stares from society ANYwhere.
tattoo has been associated everywhere with rowdiness, rebels, thugs, and everything criminal and violence.
youll be seen as a failure and a disgrace to the society.
forget about any professional career if you had one on exposed skins.

btw, the negative effect of tattoo is amplified thousand fold when you have shitty ones, which are most of the "designs" out there in your generic parlor.
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I don't see people with tattoo are sinful and deserve to go to hell.. That is between him and God...

I pity them.. They have millions of things to do/buy but they choose tats..
Same with iFags tongue.gif
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QUOTE(99problems @ Sep 27 2014, 03:30 AM)
In general, people will judge them like "he's evil, Islam dont allow tattoos" and some bs like that lol, like its taboo. Im a Malay myself and I'd like to have a few later on, and I'd just like to hear your opinion.

How about in career? Do people w tattoos get discriminated (job interviews, etc)?

Or any Muslim by name/practising Muslim here that has tattoos and get shunned by society? Or got weird looks? Maybe some Imam tried to preach? Or if family outcast them because of it?

Reason why I said Malays because Malays are usually Muslim.

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tatto sux!!!!!!!!! hepatitis..... tak ada kena mengena dgn religion pun.... if ada tatoo sudah tak boleh derma darah wooooo laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(99problems @ Sep 27 2014, 03:47 AM)
Muslims now are pretty open. European Muslims mostly, but in Singapore Malays have tattoos too and they don't get weird looks over there. Here people will freak out. One thing funny about Muslims over here is they can drink, go clubbing, have pre-marital sex, but tattoos, keeping dogs and eating pork are no-no. Weird
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If want have tattoo, go ahead. But don't Complain if your life n future in Malaysia turns sucky. smile.gif
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QUOTE(99problems @ Sep 27 2014, 03:30 AM)
In general, people will judge them like "he's evil, Islam dont allow tattoos" and some bs like that lol, like its taboo. Im a Malay myself and I'd like to have a few later on, and I'd just like to hear your opinion.

How about in career? Do people w tattoos get discriminated (job interviews, etc)?

Or any Muslim by name/practising Muslim here that has tattoos and get shunned by society? Or got weird looks? Maybe some Imam tried to preach? Or if family outcast them because of it?

Reason why I said Malays because Malays are usually Muslim.

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Not just malay...any race will face the same problem
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lol ak ade pengalaman dgn org bertatu,bos aku xamik dia kerja sebab bos aku cakap " bertatu itu haram di sisi undang-undang islam, Tuhan larang,kalau arahan Tuhan pun dia xdpt ikut dan dengar apa lagi arahan manusia(bos aku)"


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QUOTE(Intimidated @ Sep 27 2014, 03:39 AM)
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But let's try to do this rationally shall we?

Tattoo is still a taboo to most professional jobs. I have a friend who got to the final stage of interview, for a world class symphonic show, but was not picked because of her tattoo.

Sure, you can cry foul all day and blame oldfarts for being narrow minded, etc. But it's not going to help your cause? Yes, professionals still discriminate against inked people. If you want to get a tattoo, please understand and accept the repercussions. And don't do it in such an obvious place like your neck or forearm, unless you're the #YOLO or #TATTOO4LYFE type.
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weird

I know many Chefs who has tattoos and they are quite nice outside kitchen tongue.gif

one of them has a neck piercing, at the back of neck.

most of their tattoos are on the upper arm though.
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Malays are not usually muslims, malays are muslim.
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Oct 2 2014, 08:45 PM)
weird

I know many Chefs who has tattoos and they are quite nice outside kitchen tongue.gif

one of them has a neck piercing, at the back of neck.

most of their tattoos are on the upper arm though.
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Most professional jobs, not all. Just because you know one job that few gives a fvck about your tattoos or piercings, doesn't meant it should be the gold standard of hiring.

I doubt customers at restaurants ever thought about how many piercings or how large a tattoo the chef has, or if the chef forgot to wash his hands after a trip to the loo. As long as I don't see it happening, I don't think about it happening.
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QUOTE(Intimidated @ Oct 2 2014, 08:51 PM)
Most professional jobs, not all. Just because you know one job that few gives a fvck about your tattoos or piercings, doesn't meant it should be the gold standard of hiring.

I doubt customers at restaurants ever thought about how many piercings or how large a tattoo the chef has, or if the chef forgot to wash his hands after a trip to the loo. As long as I don't see it happening, I don't think about it happening.
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your friend tattoo which part? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Oct 2 2014, 08:54 PM)
your friend tattoo which part?  hmm.gif
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kalo tattoo haram.... judi, alcohols tak haram ka ?
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its between him/her and God. i dowan campur tangan
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QUOTE(99problems @ Sep 27 2014, 03:30 AM)
In general, people will judge them like "he's evil, Islam dont allow tattoos" and some bs like that lol, like its taboo. Im a Malay myself and I'd like to have a few later on, and I'd just like to hear your opinion.

How about in career? Do people w tattoos get discriminated (job interviews, etc)?

Or any Muslim by name/practising Muslim here that has tattoos and get shunned by society? Or got weird looks? Maybe some Imam tried to preach? Or if family outcast them because of it?

Reason why I said Malays because Malays are usually Muslim.

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i got muslim friends who have tattoo but they are singaporean and indonesian. malaysian not yet seen. its his deal with god. i dont care much.

p/s if im aint a muslim, i will get one for sure. i have a dream of having a united crest on my left chest or my arm lol
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QUOTE(99problems @ Sep 27 2014, 03:30 AM)
In general, people will judge them like "he's evil, Islam dont allow tattoos" and some bs like that lol, like its taboo. Im a Malay myself and I'd like to have a few later on, and I'd just like to hear your opinion.

How about in career? Do people w tattoos get discriminated (job interviews, etc)?

Or any Muslim by name/practising Muslim here that has tattoos and get shunned by society? Or got weird looks? Maybe some Imam tried to preach? Or if family outcast them because of it?

Reason why I said Malays because Malays are usually Muslim.

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what ur opinion on chinese/india/jew/dog/cat/alien with tattoo..
other ppl business leave it la...
u busy body buat ape??

what ur opinion on i dun give a furck or what your opinion on furck u!
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QUOTE(Lifeis@mess @ Oct 2 2014, 09:25 PM)
i got muslim friends who have tattoo but they are singaporean and indonesian. malaysian not yet seen. its his deal with god. i dont care much.

p/s if im aint a muslim, i will get one for sure. i have a dream of having a united crest on my left chest or my arm lol
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If you are so religious you can tattoo the arabic words of the Quran...looks cool also mah.

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QUOTE(99problems @ Sep 27 2014, 03:30 AM)
In general, people will judge them like "he's evil, Islam dont allow tattoos" and some bs like that lol, like its taboo. Im a Malay myself and I'd like to have a few later on, and I'd just like to hear your opinion.

How about in career? Do people w tattoos get discriminated (job interviews, etc)?

Or any Muslim by name/practising Muslim here that has tattoos and get shunned by society? Or got weird looks? Maybe some Imam tried to preach? Or if family outcast them because of it?

Reason why I said Malays because Malays are usually Muslim.

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You should try getting a sak yant tattoo... it'll freak them out even more lel
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I think I'm quite religious, try hard to pleased God, My gf has a celup red hair maybe even a tattoo, but it didn't borther me pun.

Problem is tattoo and cellup red hair mean cannot mandi wajib. Cannot mandi wajib mean cannot pray nor cannot enter mosque. Biggest problem is when die sure they go cut the hair and tattoo part to mandi wajib it. Even not die, if one day decided to pleased God also need to cut the skin where tattoo is.

Sound painful though.
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post Oct 2 2014, 11:03 PM

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Even the henna brides wear on the weddings looks disgusting to me.
I tried once for fun (the henna, not bride) I didn't like it. Never again.

Though I got friends who is a convert got a tattoo on the back of his hand.. Looks ok though..

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