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What could I have done differently?
What could I have done differently?
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Sep 25 2014, 11:36 PM, updated 5y ago
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Sep 25 2014, 11:50 PM
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Fuhhhh~~~
Nope, i dont finish your essay.. |
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Sep 25 2014, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE(farizul @ Sep 25 2014, 05:50 PM) then you shouldn't even bother leaving a comment here. TS is sincerely writing out his heart's content here and you go on, trolling him here. pathetic.Anyway, TS, it is quite sad to read about your story. I understand what you have gone through more or less. I think the first grave mistake you did during the early days of your 'love-budding' period was not confronting her on why she was being so secretive at the first place. I mean, you were right about your gut feeling when you suspected that she was up to something but then again, you tolerated and let this incident slipped by to the point where it is no longer a 'trivial' act she does, but rather a deep dark secret she is trying to hide in the closet. It would definitely be hard to move on since you both have spent quite a number of years together and the memories you both shared would definitely mean a lot to you at least. Try to talk to her once again and this time, ask her to tell you the truth about EVERYTHING, from A to Z. and then you can decide for yourself whether the relationship is still worth saving. |
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Sep 26 2014, 12:06 AM
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Fuuuuuuuhhhh
I did finished reading tho. Heres one thing, of the thousands of words in your relationship of 2 years problem, I didn't see a single word that says "MARRIAGE". I guess that is what she told you about different perspective in life, she probably didn't see you as a potential husband, she felt insecure. She cant see the future with you as husband and wife. Next time, try to be more of a husband figure instead of boyfriend figure. |
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Sep 26 2014, 12:10 AM
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Sep 26 2014, 12:06 AM) Fuuuuuuuhhhh Actually I did talk to her about marriage before. The thing is she's only 25 this year and she has no desire to marry yet. She said she will consider it around 28 which is why I started saving up now.I did finished reading tho. Heres one thing, of the thousands of words in your relationship of 2 years problem, I didn't see a single word that says "MARRIAGE". I guess that is what she told you about different perspective in life, she probably didn't see you as a potential husband, she felt insecure. She cant see the future with you as husband and wife. Next time, try to be more of a husband figure instead of boyfriend figure. |
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Sep 26 2014, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(firefoxian @ Sep 25 2014, 11:59 PM) then you shouldn't even bother leaving a comment here. TS is sincerely writing out his heart's content here and you go on, trolling him here. pathetic. Thanks for reading. I know it's long winded so don't scold him but I'm just so torn I couldn't help but type continuously. I've even talked to a lot of people about it.Anyway, TS, it is quite sad to read about your story. I understand what you have gone through more or less. I think the first grave mistake you did during the early days of your 'love-budding' period was not confronting her on why she was being so secretive at the first place. I mean, you were right about your gut feeling when you suspected that she was up to something but then again, you tolerated and let this incident slipped by to the point where it is no longer a 'trivial' act she does, but rather a deep dark secret she is trying to hide in the closet. It would definitely be hard to move on since you both have spent quite a number of years together and the memories you both shared would definitely mean a lot to you at least. Try to talk to her once again and this time, ask her to tell you the truth about EVERYTHING, from A to Z. and then you can decide for yourself whether the relationship is still worth saving. The thing now is I can't talk to her. I've tried every approach from electronic to physical presence. She just doesn't want to talk at all. I once managed to get her to agree to talk to me for 10 mins but she declined it later in text and didn't respond at all after that. Most of the time she will just walk on when she sees me. I for one think it's worth saving. We've already identified the problem. Now it's just a matter of working on it. And you're right. I should have spoke up when I felt something was wrong. I judged with my heart instead of my brain. This post has been edited by ChaChaZero: Sep 26 2014, 12:20 AM |
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Sep 26 2014, 12:28 AM
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dayumm i actually finish reading all of it. i dont know what to say bro, maybe it was just not meant to be.
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Sep 26 2014, 12:31 AM
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Go to youtube, search for Elsa and sing along... Let it Go.
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Sep 26 2014, 12:32 AM
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I had a friend once that never get acknowledge in public about his relationship with his ex.
His ex reason was that she didn't know how to deal with it should the relationship goes public and it went sour and they will eventually break up. A freudian slip of sort that his ex expected to break up with him, hence the refusal to acknowledge the relationship in public eyes. This after my friend housing her, fetching her to and fro, clean after her, cook after her, and provided the best that he could for close to 5 years. Hence it's important not to listen to a word a person says but judge them by their actions. As for your case her actions did tell you about what she thinks of you and your relationship, despite of all the sex and things you did for her. She never acknowledge it because in her mind she never was in a relationship in the first place. Hence at best, she was honest with you that you're both going towards different direction, the dishonest part is that she didn't tell you that from the beginning because that's what her plans all along. Anyway did both of you spend most of your time together? Because sounds like she already lining up some replacements. BTW, my friend ex secretly moved out from his house and found a replacement bf 2 weeks in, that despite they're living together LOL. |
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Sep 26 2014, 12:35 AM
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seriously...
looks like: - 1. She's seeing someone else 2. You were the rebound, i got no friends so basically i'm finding it convenient guy friend. and she just came back from the Great country UK 3. She don't see herself with you for too long and just played along. When a girl refuses to acknowledge you in Public, at first might seem like shyness which is true. But 2 years! That's like feeling embarrassed to be seen with you. You love her that much, she should be proud to be with you Bloody immature girl. Selfish and self centered. My advice? Take 10% of your savings and splurge on YOURSELF Be it clothes, entertainment, electronics. Just make yourself feel good. Then once you feel better then think again if you really want this. Talk to friends, hang out, do what ppl do... Don't STAY AT HOME. You'll drown Don't contact her for the moment. You can try after a few days but don't keep doing it. If she loves you, she'll come to her senses but make sure if that happens, she not afraid to show that you are her BF. If things stays the same. Forget it. It has happened once, it will happen again. |
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Sep 26 2014, 12:40 AM
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QUOTE(ChaChaZero @ Sep 25 2014, 04:10 PM) Actually I did talk to her about marriage before. The thing is she's only 25 this year and she has no desire to marry yet. She said she will consider it around 28 which is why I started saving up now. So....you only started saving up now? She's 25, you are 4 years older means you are 29 now? Where haves you savings gone to? |
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Sep 26 2014, 12:43 AM
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Hmnnnn. .
This is quite weird. Honestly, I myself am having relationship issues and u might not want to follow my advices nor listen to my opinions. However, there's just a few things I would like to say. To be honest, when a girl can be so strong and make a decision, walk away and start ignoring u could mean she really means it. COULD ya. From what uve mentioned, she seems like an insecure person and u showering her with love would only make her more secure. Maybe that's not what she wants. Maybe its the emotional support uve given her and u being there for her always made her feel that she loves u a lot. It could just be the "cling". Have u ever asked her why she always has to hide around when with u? If she has a valid reason like family objects her dating or something then maybe u can accept that for now. I mean, a relationship is between the 2 of u. There's no need for the whole world to know anyway. From a female perspective, I suggest u take a cool off period. During this time, don't contact her. Give her time to feel the lost while u take ur time to really think if this relationship will work out in the future given how it is today. Once u get a clearer picture, u will know what to do next. Sometimes, there are females that love attention and just do all these stupid things only to regret later. Who knows right? Think about it. . if she is that kind of girl I mentioned, would u still want her back anyway? |
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Sep 26 2014, 12:43 AM
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She's probably seeing another person.
You're just the handy person that is/was there for her whenever she needs to fall back in case of anything. Personally, you should just walk away. You made the right choice of walking away like a man, with your dignity intact. Keep doing so and let others think what they want. You went through a lot recently, I know. Personally, it sucks. You wanna go 1001 things to get back with her, but trust me, it's not worth it. |
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Sep 26 2014, 12:44 AM
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1. Read 1st line.
2. Scroll to end. 3. CTRL + F (type "sex") 4. voila.. 5. profit ??!!???? |
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Sep 26 2014, 01:59 AM
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You decided to raise a 'little bird'...
Now she has grown up and became independent... She decided to fly away and live the rest of her life somewhere else... The End.... |
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Sep 26 2014, 03:40 AM
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You can't look at it from that perspective, TS. It's not a question of what went wrong in the first place. Just my thoughts, you could probably figure this out but her heart was never in it from the start. Her perspective is that yeah, she's weak and in a bad place. She needed security and you were there to provide. You're her comfort zone, in a way of speaking. But now she decided to do right by you (oh yeah, women and their convoluted sense of justice) and let you go. Saturday was just her way of showing you her gratitude, a symbolic parting with happiness (again, their logic).
"Different perspective and goals in life" She obviously has different ideas of what her life is going to be, who she will be. Sad to say, you're not a part of that. Maybe you're too grounded, maybe you lack ambition. Maybe you're just not cool enough (unlike me So what do you do then? Have you ever thought of migrating (Big risk, you might still not be cool enough. Unlike me)? Would you change who you are for her (again, something detrimental to you. People just don't change, yeah.)? IMO there's nothing much you can do, her mind is set. If you insist, it's up to you how to force yourself into the puzzle that is her expectations. I'm not telling you to do this, but here's the best you can probably do if you must. If you want to remain her comfort zone, tell her. If you're willing to wait until she gets tired of fluttering around indulging in her fantasies, tell her. She might be touched and come back to you. She might not. But end of the day, will she change her perspective and see you for who you really are? I don't know. But if I were you, I wouldn't wait. Those who forsake their dreams IMO end up bitter, and she'll take it out on you. Take your time to think about it, think about the future. Don't beat yourself up over who you are. You seem decent, you try hard enough. Just feel the empty space in front for where to go next. Maybe talk over it again with someone you can trust. I heard brokenagain's free this weekend. Now excuse me while I go indulge in my own coolness. |
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Sep 26 2014, 07:25 AM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « She is too young for marriage, first you need to understand the beginning she been living UK for so long it reveals that her mindset is european style and an asian from malaysia comes in and your mindset is slow and steady. I can understand why she said you are predictable. All i can tell you is she wants a man not a boy. Many man today, they always think treating the gal with all his heart and treat her good because she deserve it. That doesnt work to generation Y. They like man to be in charge without she giving you to be in charge if you get what i mean. When she try to hide your existence from everyone around her, it means you are minority in her life. To counter such girl you should get very close with her friends or colleague the motivation and support of your existence needs to come from people around her. This post has been edited by Velocity: Sep 26 2014, 07:25 AM |
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Sep 26 2014, 08:39 AM
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Thanks for all the criticism and advise guys. I appreciate it all.
Some points to clarify, my savings is still with me. I actually put in about 80k into a mutual fund for our future. I still have enough to spend as I've been working for 8 years now. I don't really need the whole world to know but at least for her parent to know. As far as I know she doesn't seem to be restricted. And I would appreciate if she stopped running away when she sees someone she knows when we're out. By run away I literally mean it, she just bolts off and texts me to meet her somewhere else. This happened countless times. And for her UK experience, I can't really tell what it is. From what I understand she likes UK for the environment but she took a course that was above her abilities so she studied the entire time there, doing nothing else. She had a short relationship there which ended badly and took it out on her parents for not taking her problems seriously. I had an extremely long talk about that with her until 3am one weekend and she patched up with them shortly. The thing is she felt free in UK where no one could monitor her. It's not so much the society but more the environment. I couldn't control her knowing this. Also I admit I relented to her will a lot cause she has some health issues. Whenever I took charge she would say I nag too much or outright don't listen. And it's just minor stuff like coming in to work on time. She used to come in at 10am when work starts at 9. I told her to buck up and got fked upside down. |
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Sep 26 2014, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(ChaChaZero @ Sep 26 2014, 08:39 AM) Thanks for all the criticism and advise guys. I appreciate it all. i nag my partner alot but when she feel i complaint i will straight shoot her, I saying this for your own good ,i just want to be honest or you want me to lie to you? if you dont like i will stop so please decide if you dont like, just tell me i will never EVER advice you.Some points to clarify, my savings is still with me. I actually put in about 80k into a mutual fund for our future. I still have enough to spend as I've been working for 8 years now. I don't really need the whole world to know but at least for her parent to know. As far as I know she doesn't seem to be restricted. And I would appreciate if she stopped running away when she sees someone she knows when we're out. By run away I literally mean it, she just bolts off and texts me to meet her somewhere else. This happened countless times. And for her UK experience, I can't really tell what it is. From what I understand she likes UK for the environment but she took a course that was above her abilities so she studied the entire time there, doing nothing else. She had a short relationship there which ended badly and took it out on her parents for not taking her problems seriously. I had an extremely long talk about that with her until 3am one weekend and she patched up with them shortly. The thing is she felt free in UK where no one could monitor her. It's not so much the society but more the environment. I couldn't control her knowing this. Also I admit I relented to her will a lot cause she has some health issues. Whenever I took charge she would say I nag too much or outright don't listen. And it's just minor stuff like coming in to work on time. She used to come in at 10am when work starts at 9. I told her to buck up and got fked upside down. She will keep say sorry... Its call be in control you need to make her you care for her by being in control of her like your case since she like UK so much, make some up coming plans for her, find out where she likes to go in UK, coordinate and plan a trip then surprise her. |
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Sep 26 2014, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(Velocity @ Sep 26 2014, 10:32 AM) i nag my partner alot but when she feel i complaint i will straight shoot her, I saying this for your own good ,i just want to be honest or you want me to lie to you? if you dont like i will stop so please decide if you dont like, just tell me i will never EVER advice you. I tried not to nag her too much but you're right. Sometimes its just meant to be done. Eventhough she scolds me for nagging, she actually does fix the problem. Like her coming to late work, after my nagging, she comes in earlier now. It just feels wrong that I need to nag/complain to get a point through. Now that I think of it, I've never raised my voice to her but I do criticize her attitude a lot. She will keep say sorry... Its call be in control you need to make her you care for her by being in control of her like your case since she like UK so much, make some up coming plans for her, find out where she likes to go in UK, coordinate and plan a trip then surprise her. I've tried planning for trips with her but I always get those stupid dunno/not sure/need to check with someone etc etc excuses. It may not be UK but its at least a decent place. Even the latest which I invited her to stay over when everyone was away, it took her a month to finally decide. And point to note, she's never around during long weekends. She always goes home. In fact, we've only spent one long weekend together and no holidays ever. I tried, seriously. No response. |
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