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TSChaChaZero
post Sep 25 2014, 11:36 PM, updated 5y ago

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post Sep 26 2014, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Sep 26 2014, 12:06 AM)
Fuuuuuuuhhhh

I did finished reading tho.

Heres one thing, of the thousands of words in your relationship of 2 years problem, I didn't see a single word that says "MARRIAGE".

I guess that is what she told you about different perspective in life, she probably didn't see you as a potential husband, she felt insecure. She cant see the future with you as husband and wife.

Next time, try to be more of a husband figure instead of boyfriend figure.
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Actually I did talk to her about marriage before. The thing is she's only 25 this year and she has no desire to marry yet. She said she will consider it around 28 which is why I started saving up now.
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post Sep 26 2014, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(firefoxian @ Sep 25 2014, 11:59 PM)
then you shouldn't even bother leaving a comment here. TS is sincerely writing out his heart's content here and you go on, trolling him here. pathetic.

Anyway, TS, it is quite sad to read about your story. I understand what you have gone through more or less. I think the first grave mistake you did during the early days of your 'love-budding' period was not confronting her on why she was being so secretive at the first place.

I mean, you were right about your gut feeling when you suspected that she was up to something but then again, you tolerated and let this incident slipped by to the point where it is no longer a 'trivial' act she does, but rather a deep dark secret she is trying to hide in the closet.

It would definitely be hard to move on since you both have spent quite a number of years together and the memories you both shared would definitely mean a lot to you at least. Try to talk to her once again and this time, ask her to tell you the truth about EVERYTHING, from A to Z. and then you can decide for yourself whether the relationship is still worth saving.
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Thanks for reading. I know it's long winded so don't scold him but I'm just so torn I couldn't help but type continuously. I've even talked to a lot of people about it.

The thing now is I can't talk to her. I've tried every approach from electronic to physical presence. She just doesn't want to talk at all. I once managed to get her to agree to talk to me for 10 mins but she declined it later in text and didn't respond at all after that.

Most of the time she will just walk on when she sees me. I for one think it's worth saving. We've already identified the problem. Now it's just a matter of working on it.

And you're right. I should have spoke up when I felt something was wrong. I judged with my heart instead of my brain.

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post Sep 26 2014, 08:39 AM

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Thanks for all the criticism and advise guys. I appreciate it all.

Some points to clarify, my savings is still with me. I actually put in about 80k into a mutual fund for our future. I still have enough to spend as I've been working for 8 years now.

I don't really need the whole world to know but at least for her parent to know. As far as I know she doesn't seem to be restricted. And I would appreciate if she stopped running away when she sees someone she knows when we're out. By run away I literally mean it, she just bolts off and texts me to meet her somewhere else. This happened countless times.

And for her UK experience, I can't really tell what it is. From what I understand she likes UK for the environment but she took a course that was above her abilities so she studied the entire time there, doing nothing else. She had a short relationship there which ended badly and took it out on her parents for not taking her problems seriously. I had an extremely long talk about that with her until 3am one weekend and she patched up with them shortly.

The thing is she felt free in UK where no one could monitor her. It's not so much the society but more the environment. I couldn't control her knowing this. Also I admit I relented to her will a lot cause she has some health issues. Whenever I took charge she would say I nag too much or outright don't listen. And it's just minor stuff like coming in to work on time. She used to come in at 10am when work starts at 9. I told her to buck up and got fked upside down.
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post Sep 26 2014, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(Velocity @ Sep 26 2014, 10:32 AM)
i nag my partner alot but when she feel i complaint i will straight shoot her, I saying this for your own good ,i just want to be honest or you want me to lie to you? if you dont like i will stop so please decide if you dont like, just tell me i will never EVER advice you.

She will keep say sorry...

Its call be in control you need to make her you care for her by being  in control of her like your case since she like UK so much, make some up coming plans for her, find out where she likes to go in UK, coordinate and plan a trip then surprise her.
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I tried not to nag her too much but you're right. Sometimes its just meant to be done. Eventhough she scolds me for nagging, she actually does fix the problem. Like her coming to late work, after my nagging, she comes in earlier now. It just feels wrong that I need to nag/complain to get a point through. Now that I think of it, I've never raised my voice to her but I do criticize her attitude a lot.

I've tried planning for trips with her but I always get those stupid dunno/not sure/need to check with someone etc etc excuses. It may not be UK but its at least a decent place. Even the latest which I invited her to stay over when everyone was away, it took her a month to finally decide. And point to note, she's never around during long weekends. She always goes home. In fact, we've only spent one long weekend together and no holidays ever. I tried, seriously. No response.
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post Sep 26 2014, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(adrianteo @ Sep 26 2014, 10:53 AM)
Honestly, you sound like a doormat to her.

At least thats what people said to me when i had a almost similar story like what you written above.

In short, you were a doormat to her, when she needed you, she comes to you, when you wanted more acknowledgement or a show of love from her, she tends to play it cool and make it insignificant.

When she relayed her break up decision to you, its more like FYI because it means nothing to her. That also means that you were just a doormat to her.

If she really appreciate your relationship, she wouldnt do all these to you let alone ending the relationship with some general answers that dont mean anything at all.

Its like telling you "im leaving you and i just need to give you some crap reasons".

I know how it feels because whatever i have been through matched exactly what you have said so far.

Your title shouldnt be "what could i have done differently" because its not about what more can you do, you cant do anymore than what you did if the other party doesn't see you as an equal partner in a relationship.
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Exactly, that was the word I was looking for. I was a door mat to her. She's obviously the more dominant person in our relationship but I never gave it much thought as I loved her unconditionally.

Seeing that she didn't complain much about me, I just assumed everything was fine.

Sorry you had to go through such an experience too. I just don't get it sometimes. In such a case regardless of whatever I did it would end anyway. It would have been great if she would just say it straight to my face instead of playing with my feelings like this. No fights, no arguments, nothing. Such a shitty way of ending things.
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post Sep 26 2014, 11:09 AM

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post Sep 26 2014, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Velocity @ Sep 26 2014, 11:09 AM)
then you should straight tembak her at her face. You say i manage to grab a good deal from trip at this date. Please make necessary to adapt to the time.

I been to your situation before its really painful i know i plan, i pay, i drive,i navigate, i coordinate at the end i still need see her attitude.

I asked please sleep early tomorrow is a 1 day trip. Then the day before she go clubbing, then on the day of the trip i call her 5am she said call her back 6am, then i drive to her house need wait 15mins she not ready, then on the way she said she sleepy so wanna sleep so i end up driving alone while she sleep.

The whole day really moody, she feel tired because have to walk, sleepy. Later i ask her some question she show her attitude keep quiet then somemore driving i got so bad headache when driving back.

This happen because i was like you, everything also must follow her way, Now if she delay maximum of 3 mistake i straight terminate everything
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Thanks a lot for the wake up call. Last Christmas I actually booked a room at a Hotel in GH, all paid and everything. Initially she agreed to it but after dunno what discussion she had with her mom, best friend, siblings, she said not worth going there just a few days before it was scheduled.. On Christmas eve i got into a major accident too, so I just let it slide away.

Something similar to your experience, she is ALWAYS late for appointments and she is ALWAYS tired. On weekends she sleeps at 12 and wakes up past noon and still complains she is sleepy. Even when I visit her apartment, there are times when it takes her more than 10 minutes just to open the door. Call her also she doesn't pickup, supposedly cause she was showering or on the phone with her mom etc etc.

I don't really like to force someone to do things but you guys are right. There are times when I just need to stand up and shoot her down. Take the control back. Being kind only left me defenceless to her ways.

Its a lesson learnt, hopefully I won't fall for the same tricks again. Truth to be told, my brain was telling me she's bad news but my heart just couldn't fight back. It's my mistake for being weak.
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post Sep 26 2014, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(KoChun @ Sep 26 2014, 11:28 AM)
TS, you could have got a dog.
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Yeah, thats a good point. I have 8 cats though. One cat even disappeared for months but still came home.

QUOTE(Velocity @ Sep 26 2014, 11:29 AM)
I know you love her but do not let her be in control she is spoil furthermore she is not a good mentor.

So imagine a bad mentor teaching a good student what would the result be?

Yes being kind she will step on you and when she feel you are boring (kind) she will dump you and find another one that know how to be in control. (Women would not tell you this but i learn this myself)

If you really treasure the relationship be in control, if she is wrong just shoot her dont give face, if she did right then praise her and reward her if needed.

If me i wait only maximum 15mins anything more i leave, she call me why i leave i shoot her kao kao one.

I said before i come i call you and text you, i reaching i text you again, i reach i text and call you again and you also late 15mins WTF is this nonsense la.
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I'll keep this in mind for the next time. I don't even know why I tolerated so much of this from her. I guess sometimes advising people is just not enough. Have to raise my voice to get my point across.

Thanks though. You gave me a lot to think about on how to manage a relationship.
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post Sep 26 2014, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(Velocity @ Sep 26 2014, 03:12 PM)
you could be rich you can afford such lost.

Never judge people. Make small plans and if small plans also end up like that i wont bother making bigger plans.

By being consistent like reminder and warning and after the limit it still happen you have the answer
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Agreed with you. There was a time when she wanted to go on a holiday to UK with me but I doubted her true intentions. She ditched her family the last time she visited UK for a 2 week holiday just to spend time with her friends.

I figured if she can't even be around her family I definitely will have no chance at all. That was why I tried to plan trips locally. Somewhere more affordable.

She couldn't even handle that, I doubt I could have taken it further.

 

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