HUGE RANT :-
You guys are funny. Looking for MAGIC supplements to gain weight, to lose fat, to build muscle. Zzz.... Supplements are USELESS if your diet is not even in proper order in the first place. OMG!! Most of you should get a damn clue for goodness' sake!
Whatever your goals are, muscle building, fat loss, LBM gain, etc --------> 70% DIET. It is the main component of all other factors. Stop fukkin obsessing with supplementation when most of you guys eat crap.
And don't gimme excuses that it's hard to find healthy food around. How many of you can resist the temptation of nasi lemak, roti canai and nasi goreng, etc? It takes willpower and dedication, NOT A MAGIC SUPPLEMENT. How many of you guys can spare a lil' extra cash sacrificing some of your favourite hobbies like cybergaming, comic collection or whatever indulgence for some extra nutrients in your meals?
As long asd you guys keep eating shit, you'll look like shit. If you guys eat good food, you'll look good, period. You are what you eat.
We have some guys taking whey protein, creatine, BCAA's, GAKIC, LEUKIC, energy boosters, glutamine but still look like shit. Why? LMAO, cos instead of using that hard earned cash to have a solid diet which is much cheaper, it all goes to waste buying supplements which won't do anything cos some of you eat char kuay teow post workout and expect to grow HYOOGE.
Bleh! C'mon.... get some common sense and start eating right today.

End of rant.

Ohhh.... so what is good food laaaaaaa

might be posting in the wrong place but since its about diet...

any suggestions for a healthy supper?

you think leh? logically leh?

http://www.maxtrition.com.my/nutrition/foo...2_foodguide.php

check and decide.

for me, just milk and fish oil gelcaps. No need anything solid because you need time to digest solids.

thank u

yeah, but 7-8 hours on a empty stomach ......
isnt that bad for u when u r trying to bulk up?

whoa u dont need to do that 7-8 hrs empty stomach ...to bulk up u have to eat more...4-5 times a day..

what i meant was if i dont take something for supper, my stomach would be empty
the whole time i was sleeping

oh hahaha..okay..does it bother u when u sleep? i mean does u wake up in the middle of nite looking for foods..if not then okay loh

dude...im want to gain weight and i really don know wht healthy food should i eat.someone said eat nasi lemak everyday and u will gain weight but i feel dizzy to go to work after eat nasi lemak...

can u tell me what ur nutricious food u eat every day?i mean,just give an example la so i can follow...for me,which one have to eat more?food with lots of protein or food with lot's of fat?? confious

That's why milk is good if taken as supper about 1-2 hours before you go to bed. Many people find it hard to sleep on a very full stomach, thus milk is a good option. Not too heavy a meal, and not solid food either so it is easier to be digested. Unless of course, you are thinking about bulking up with fat rather than muscles...

Apart from my 5-7 meals a day, depending if it's a workout day or not, i still take milk and fish oil (+ whey is optional) before i sleep for slow absorption and timed release. My total protein intake is 250-300 grams of protein daily. Carbs and fast added as needed.

This post has been edited by darklight79: Sep 3 2006, 09:15 PM

Yes, you will gain weight if you eat nasi lemak. But of course, it is not the healthy way.

assuming he can take milk what bout ppl who have problem with lactose?

I'm extremely lactose intolerant for your information. That's why i only take HL milk.

can give us some sample of ur daily diet..

This post has been edited by windows_sux: Sep 3 2006, 09:23 PM

My diet is suited to my needs because i'm almost 100 kg. You would do better with a diet which has less calories. Check out the sticky above.

oh dont worry..maybe i can take some of ur diet to my diet...

i sooooo agree.
food and exercise is what gets you to yer goal, supplements only help you get there faster and how hard can it be to figure out what healthy eating is?


obviously not nasi lemak if you want to gain weight and obviously you dont go for foods with alot of fat...

read the pinned thread about diet and workouts, its the one at the top of the page saying "Shall we have a diet/workout post?, To Help Each Other.", i linked it for you.

i dont think one should just "take some" of someone elses diet, especially not from a bodybuilder or pro-athlete's diet, their diets are specially customised for their personal needs and for their own purposes. depending on what you're eating for you might not like the results of eating what they eat.

This post has been edited by malaysianPotato: Sep 3 2006, 09:58 PM

that is true but i also just wanna compare it with mine...it wont do any harm to try out something new.. ...

you cant because the calorie needs are diffrent, and yes, it will do you harm because you may be taking in more than you need.

oh no bro not like that, i just wanna see his diet plan and what kinda foods he eat..then i will adjust it will mine diet plan..thats all...

This post has been edited by windows_sux: Sep 4 2006, 01:37 AM

Ok. My diet is pretty versatile. But i'll tell you i eat every 3-4 hours. And if i'm awake for some reason like exams, or night shifts in the hospital or OT, i eat every 4 hours i'm awake to preserve muscle mass.
What is important is not just the amount of food you eat. It's also when you eat it. Nutrient timing is extremely important. Let's say you need 3000 calories a day, but some people skip breakfast, then think they can cram in 3000 calories in 2 big ass meals which is just wrong. You get what i'm saying? Your body can only absorb so much nutrients at one time, eating more than that just changes the rest to fat.
Hope that helps.

On a note, don't be afraid to exceed even 60 grams of protein post workout. If you have just veggies and lots of rice, it won't help at all, period. You need a lot of protein, red, meat, milk, etc.