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English Clubs Liverpool Kop Talk 2014, Newcastle-1, Liverpool-0

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post Oct 15 2014, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Oct 15 2014, 12:42 PM)
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Hodgson recently dismissed the need for a two-day recovery for players, but Verheijen has since said that statement showed how ‘stupid’ he is. The Dutch fitness coach who has worked closely with Guus Hiddink, waded into the furore with a withering condemnation of Hodgson’s approach.

“Another shocking example of why English managers are becoming extinct is Hodgson,” said Verheijen. “His incompetence must be frustrating for educated managers like Rodgers who travelled the world.

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2014/10/14/en...liverpool-star/?
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Woy must be thinking "I've won multiple Danish and Swedish titles. I am a high achiever in EUROPEAN football. What does Rodgers know? What has he won?" tongue.gif

Meanwhile, pretty decent game by Coutinho made easy by a porous Japanese defence...



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post Oct 16 2014, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Oct 16 2014, 12:21 PM)
+1 I observed the same things too. Although some of his heavy touches probably due to the bumpy pitch.  biggrin.gif
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Will also add some overly ambitious/overly heavy through passes leading to unnecessary loss of possession leading to counterattacks. Basically the same he's been doing all season for us. Then again his assist did look good and he definitely misses Struj though it can be argued that it is only a friendly and the Japanese defence was crap. Teams will never defend that high and leave the backlines that open against us this season.
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post Oct 17 2014, 07:12 PM

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Queens Park Rangers v Liverpool

Queens Park Rangers have picked up the fewest yellow cards (8) and have committed the fewest fouls (60) in the Premier League so far this season.

Liverpool have won five and lost just one of their last six league meetings with QPR, keeping a clean sheet in four of these games.

After a run of 11 successive Premier League wins in between Feb-Apr, Liverpool have won just four of their last 10 matches in the competition (W4 D2 L4).

The Reds have kept just one clean sheet in their last 13 Premier League matches.

Harry Redknapp has won just five of his 32 Premier League games in charge of QPR (D10 L17).

Under Redknapp, QPR have lost six and won none (D2) of their eight PL games on a Sunday, losing each of their last five.

Liverpool have scored in 14 of their last 15 Premier League away trips to London.

Mario Balotelli has scored just one goal in his last 21 Premier League appearances, despite attempting 66 shots (inc. blocked) in these games.

Rob Green has been forced in to making more saves than any other goalkeeper this season in the Premier League (26).

Daniel Sturridge could return from injury for this match. The England international has only scored one goal in his last seven Premier League away appearances.
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post Oct 18 2014, 07:40 PM

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Including this latest one, Sturj has been on the sidelines for at least 33 weeks since January 2013 taking into account significant injuries only.

If he is ruled out for the entire of the estimated 4 weeks he is looking to miss QPR, Real, Hull, Swansea, Newcastle, Real and Chelsea. BIG BLOW.
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post Oct 19 2014, 12:28 AM

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Rodgers will sign Ronald Koeman for 20m pounds next summer to replace...oh wai-
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post Oct 19 2014, 12:50 AM

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Southampton with all those new players is currently has the best defence and the 2nd most potent offence in the league. Gel? Integration? Adapting? What????

But NO! I'm not jumping on the Koeman bandwagon just yet. They have played 3 big teams so far in Pool, Arsenal and Spurs with 1 win over Arsenal. They are pretty impressive against the rest of the competition though.
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post Oct 19 2014, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Oct 19 2014, 02:19 AM)
Aguero 4 goals.Now where are those guys who said downing and charlie adam are more likely to succeed than aguero?
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Aguero in my opinion is the best striker in the league. Costa might have made a great start to life in the league but Aguero is more capable of creating his own shot with his dribbling and pace. Only thing holding him back is his poor injury record.
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post Oct 19 2014, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 19 2014, 10:22 PM)
Never in my life i want find out someone so bad besides the murderer of Teoh Beng Hock.... who is the fukkin defense coach
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A non existent being seems to be it don't you think?
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post Oct 19 2014, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(champu @ Oct 19 2014, 10:27 PM)
he made a couple of incredible saves, only to ruin it at the crucial moment.

What a thrilling game. We shoulc'nt have taken anything from this game, that's how bad we played.

Who's watching the UCL game? I don't dare sial with the way we play
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I know I'm not gonna. My heart can't take it.

Mignolet actually had a decent game apart from when he came out a claim and cross and missed leading to QPR nearly scoring in the first half. Both goals conceded not his fault in my opinion. Especially the 2nd one when Allen whos marking the near post should be clearing the ball which he didn't and ended up obstructing Mignolet's attempt to save the ball.
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post Oct 19 2014, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(twtang @ Oct 19 2014, 10:41 PM)
before half time, i was asking how come Liverpool game getting so boring nowadays, and they answered me with this last minute excitement.
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The constant hoofing from our backline reminds me of the Woy days.
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post Oct 19 2014, 10:58 PM

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Why no mention of Enrique? Thought he was god awful too tonight.
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post Oct 19 2014, 11:09 PM

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QPR have scored 2 goals for LFC this season.

Balotelli has scored 1 PL goal in 26.

Lets sign QPR.

This was on twitter. HAHAHA. rclxms.gif
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post Oct 20 2014, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(anip94 @ Oct 20 2014, 12:09 AM)
liverpool counter attack were good today, until the ball came to balotelli.
he cant shoot
he cant dribble
he cant pass
he's the opposite of sturiddge. liverpool need mobile striker to make their fast paced tactic to works.
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You see the likes of Sterling, Hendo, Lallana charging down the channels giving each other options.

At the same time you see Balotelli standing near the left flank staring at the runner giving him that I WANT THE BALL stare.

Balotelli receives the ball. Proceeds to shift it to his right foot and blazes it well wide of goal from way outside the box.

Teammates look on in frustration. Rinse and repeat.

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post Oct 20 2014, 04:05 PM

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The main problem I noticed last night was once again our non-existent midfield. By midfield I meant the midfield trio in the middle. The way they were positioned was almost as if we were only playing with defenders and forwards. Looking at how we build up play, it's always a ball cycle between our DM - FB - CB ending with a hoof up front. For those blaming BR for his obsession with tiki taka, does that look like tiki taka to you? It might be BR's fault but you can't blame him for sticking to his obsession of tiki taka because it isn't. Problem there was the midfield triangle and the full backs were spread so far apart they can't ping passes to each other resorting to always cycling the ball to a full back only to hoof it up or pass it back to the centre backs. I believe it was Pep Guardiola who once said never buildup play with your fullbacks because the "touchline" is the best defender.

It is made much more difficult with the way QPR was pressing the ball not giving even our defenders time and space on the ball. Where was that from our attackers? Balotelli looked so disinterested the way he walked on the pitch. Pressing isn't gonna work if a 2nd or 3rd man doesn't participate and help trap the ball giving them an easy way to pass the ball out. Just look at how Balotelli turned his back on the play during the quick freekick that led to Dunne's own goal. To receive the ball then go to ground to slowdown the tempo is all he seem to do from what I've seen of him so far.

Mario must be a lonely man because he seems to like to stick around defenders instead of moving into open spaces like strikers should do. Every time he receives the ball he will hold it for a good 2-3 seconds to figure out what he wants to do with it which by then is already surrounded by 2-3 players. Why doesn't he turn and run with the ball? Why doesn't he quickly release the ball to open players near him? Why does he insist on so predictably shifting the ball to his right and rifle a shot into a defender who knows what's coming? Why does he always pass the ball backwards when he realize he is surrounded instead of passing it forward when he has time and space? The choices he makes are baffling and if I were his teammate I would already have made my frustrations clear to the manager. He might be talented but his footballing IQ is ZERO. I'm already losing faith in the Super Mario hype. Milan was right all along. They said he is not a number 9. If that is so why are we not giving him a partner to play with? Look at the way Sterling broke through the lines for that final goal, even Sterling would've made a fine forward to partner Balotelli with instead of wasting him on the wings. Even Hendo has made more runs to break the line than Balotelli.
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post Oct 20 2014, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 20 2014, 07:00 PM)
Who dares to talk bad about Rafatollah!? mad.gif

His appointment was the right direction towards in restoring the glory days of Liverpool, we were on the verge of becoming a footballing force again, domestically and continentally.

Sadly, he had one bad season out of 6 and got ousted by fanboys....owners decided to go Brit way and hired Woy, overlooking other qualified European big coachs at that time, and kickstarted the infamous "Brit herd mentality" which set us back until today.

BR could have put his name in the history books of Liverpool last season, piggybacking on Suarez's Ballon D' Or form, but again his ineptitude in organizing the team's defense let the whole club and fans down despite several major acquisitions in defence.
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Rafa too had ONE good season after which he decided to oust the player of the season. Did everyone forget how conservative Rafa was with his tactics and team selection? We often didn't start playing until the second half trailing.

QUOTE(kevafk @ Oct 20 2014, 07:27 PM)
"If u look at his goal statistic under Kenny in a season and half:
2010-2011 4 goals in 13 appearance
2011-2012 11 goal in 39 appearance

Whereas under Rordgers:
2012-2013 30 goals in 44 appearance
2013-2014 31 goals 37 appearance

It seems he knows the right tactic and style of play that suits him and that can bring the best out of him"

Credits to Farisq, nuff said

Rafa bring best out of Torres, BR bring the best out of Suarez and Kenny trying to bring best out of AC..

My point is? Some player flourished under some certain manager. Suarez hasnt play a game in Barca remind you. But his ability no doubt he will score but Torres i had the same feeling but turns out hmm.. Torres had even better players around when he was in Chelsea

Soldado? Shevchenko? Ibrahimovic? Oh thas many more..

We're lucky we still have Sturridge, cheer up..  Hes unlucky with injuries
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No he's not unlucky. He is very prone to injuries. Just a regular thing for him.
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post Oct 21 2014, 07:24 PM

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Jamie Carragher admits Liverpool "can't have any passengers" against Real Madrid; so would drop Mario Balotelli in the Champions League clash.

The former Reds defender has urged Brendan Rodgers to drop the striker, who has scored only once in nine appearances since his £16million summer move from AC Milan, and play Raheem Sterling further forward.

Liverpool are third in Group B after losing to Basel three weeks ago and Carragher believes they need a result in front of a sold-out Anfield on Wednesday night if they are to get through to the last 16.

And he says that could mean giving the ineffectual Balotelli the chop.

"He doesn't run around enough," Carragher explained on Monday Night Football.

"Against Real Madrid you've got to get that crowd going. You need to get back to Liverpool of last year and that pressing. There's got to be an energy about Liverpool that we haven't seen; we've seen it once this season at Spurs.

"It's going on too long now and we can't keep waiting. It's a huge game and Liverpool have to get something from it.

"I would put Raheem Sterling in there because he can run in behind and Liverpool may have to counter-attack a lot of the game. Madrid may have a lot of the ball.

"Sterling can also press from the front. He doesn't have to play right up front and he can come back and help the midfield.

"They can't have any passengers against Real Madrid."

Carragher wants to see Philippe Coutinho brought in to the team to offer width on the right wing with Adam Lallana supporting Sterling from the left.

And he says it's important to have an energetic front line to build on the electric atmosphere that the home fans are likely to generate.

"The decision I would make would be to bring Coutinho in for Balotelli. I wouldn't play Balotelli in this game.

"I would play Raheem Sterling, whether you'd call it a centre-forward or a false nine. I think it's important Liverpool have three players [in front of Gerrard] who work and get after Real Madrid and then Sterling, if he's off the front, can run in behind people. I'd have Coutinho in a wide area.

"I think they can [get something from the game], but it's how Brendan Rodgers sets up.

"You've got to get Anfield bouncing. There's got to be an energy and intensity about Liverpool and enthusiasm."

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post Oct 21 2014, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Oct 21 2014, 07:32 PM)
Suso can come in for Balo

We need more attacking forwards as a form of defence.

Currently our Keeper and Defence sucks, we can park a Bus cause our bus is damn lousy an dthe only way is to attack, attack , attack & attack
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Already mentioned many times bro. Suso is out 2 months after groin surgery.
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post Oct 21 2014, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(No Reason @ Oct 21 2014, 08:42 PM)
this is not for real madrid match,

but y cant we pair sterling with sturridge up front? both have speed. with cout sharp through pass as central mid, lallana creativity on the right and superlung hendo on the left, to add with gerard sharp long pass as DM, we could take on any defense by storm
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That's what I had in mind all season. Sterling can play in Suarez's sort of free role upfront to drift wherever he see fit and still capable of bursting forward from deep with blistering pace. He will fight for every ball on the other half unlike Balotelli.
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post Oct 23 2014, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 23 2014, 10:48 AM)
Ahhhh..come on. Let's us not embark on a Balo witch hunt again.

Why Wodgers always divert the attention to Balo everytime we lose? He should be talking about how to improve and fix the team instead of putting Balo in the spotlight!!!

Shirt swap or no shirt swap, it wouldn't have make any difference. I mean, put yourself in Balo's shoes, who wouldn't be pissed if you are playing under a tactically clueless coach!
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So you are saying Balotelli wanted the huge wage packet and chose not to play for the club because of the manager? If that is so he better be gone in January.

While it is arguable if Rodgers is the manager to bring us to the next level, it is obvious to all that Balotelli is not putting in the shift that is expected of him. He drops to the ground far too easily and is then seen pouting like a child for the next 5 mins instead of getting right back up and winning the ball back. Less mention about his pressing efforts the better.
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post Oct 23 2014, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 23 2014, 12:44 PM)
It's easy to target Mario for our shortcomings. Bear in mind he's not the only guy playing for Liverpool last night. There are 10 others players on the pitch and there's our managerial GOD as one fan proclaimed himself.

Why not look at the big picture? Why not the defensive lapses? Lack of efforts, true to some degree, maybe the others felt the same way but he's a little of expressive and animated compared to others. Between Balo and Wodgers, I'll say the manager should man enough to take the rap himself rather than constantly nitpicking on Mario all the time.

As he aptly put it...Why him all the time?
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Not disagreeing with that at all. Sure there are other weaknesses in the team that are obvious to all but there is a difference between not good enough and not trying. Note that I'm not pinning our failures this season on Mario's shoulders. Most blame should go to the coaching team and the transfer committee. I am merely highlighting Mario's lack of effort to play as a team which should come above all else including bad results.

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