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English Clubs Liverpool Kop Talk 2014, Newcastle-1, Liverpool-0

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post Oct 18 2014, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(3rdElements @ Oct 18 2014, 09:10 AM)
i heard news that Sturridge will out for another month and he will miss 7 games..
dang, we are really fucuk now
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I have a feeling Chelsea chums are having a good chuckle over sturidge on & on injury sad.gif

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post Oct 19 2014, 02:55 PM

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Being very good player before and typically strong character himself, Ronald koeman does his business quietly and well.

The rise of his Southampton team will raise eyebrows for sure
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post Oct 20 2014, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Oct 20 2014, 06:28 PM)
All we need is, MAGIC biggrin.gif

Magic of Istanbul.
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Sorry bro, tinkerman sack already tongue.gif
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post Oct 20 2014, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 20 2014, 08:00 PM)
Who dares to talk bad about Rafatollah!? mad.gif

His appointment was the right direction towards in restoring the glory days of Liverpool, we were on the verge of becoming a footballing force again, domestically and continentally.

Sadly, he had one bad season out of 6 and got ousted by fanboys....owners decided to go Brit way and hired Woy, overlooking other qualified European big coachs at that time, and kickstarted the infamous "Brit herd mentality" which set us back until today.

BR could have put his name in the history books of Liverpool last season, piggybacking on Suarez's Ballon D' Or form, but again his ineptitude in organizing the team's defense let the whole club and fans down despite several major acquisitions in defence.
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didn't you see there are some who said even rafa is struggling at napoli whistling.gif

BR is a "carefully chosen" one. suck it up bro. tongue.gif



BR said liverpool games is not up to mark. several games already he has mentioned that same line. We aren't playing as well as to expectation, ... (southamptonfc are you playing well?)

..so the source of the problem is...wrong players bought at the transfer window or he is picking the wrong type of players OR he has to admit his tactics is ***** up doh.gif

sigh. just letting some frustrations out

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post Oct 21 2014, 06:43 PM

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The question was where's Alberto monero
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post Oct 21 2014, 07:53 PM

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I'm going to dream that a certain liverpool dream team that whacked Real Madrid 4-0 will turn up


Somehow

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post Oct 22 2014, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Oct 22 2014, 03:27 PM)
Come on guys, we haven't got a good run of games, and obviously, performance has been bad.

It has come down to the departure of Luis Suarez plus a few major injuries especially Sturridge. We overhaul almost the entire team as Suarez left and we need more players to compete in all competitions especially the UCL. That is obvious isn't it. Just signing 1 marquee player - Reus - to replace LS will not do us any good either.

I strongly believe the decision to sign a player is not only made by BR himself. He obviously has a long list of players and opinions from scouts, contributor from Colin Pascoe, and maybe Ian Ayre, financial status of the team and approval from John Henry. Maybe the process is even longer where we, as normal people who merely only play FM and buys players with a few clicks will not understand.

Listening to pundits/ex-players. Seriously? If they are good enough, why are they pundits, not even coaches. And Neville, if he is good enough, why did England not do well in the WC? Because of Woy? Then what is the purpose of having Assistant Coaches/Managers?

Seriously.
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To set the record straight.

It has been said all final decision lies on the shoulders of Brendan Rodgers. Fact, not something made up.
Anyway It has been a tradition of most clubs without a proper director of football.




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post Oct 22 2014, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(normeck @ Oct 22 2014, 04:01 PM)
yes,  Final decision will be on BR...  if he want Reus, does it meet all the condition from scout, finance and John Henry? if the player dont want to join us, then 2nd choice? there goes balotelli...

yes we can go to falcao, cavanni... but other club also going after them... its not easy task i think to buy a marquee player...
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The way I see it

Rodgers doesn't ask for a table (he is not the type that does that after all club carefully chose him over someone that always demanding)

However he, rodgers (only silently) "wishes" for one but kinda leaves the club to sort out what's favourable to the club & the club finances.

Club then tells Rodgers, here's the (table) lamp, which do you want? Small? big? This shape? You make the final choice.

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Speaking meterphorically but I think many Kopites know what I mean cool2.gif
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post Oct 22 2014, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Oct 22 2014, 04:33 PM)
Not that I do not disagree with you. Just that I can't agree with you, since I've never talked to him ever before, or joined his meeting with John Henry or Ian Ayre.

So I can't say I agree with you on whether what size of a lamp or table he wanted. Kan?
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It has been officially reported how it the system (transfer) at liverpool work. It not rocket science
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post Oct 23 2014, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 23 2014, 08:54 AM)
after less than 1/3 season, with >100 million spent, then need a striker, a CB, a keeper...  doh.gif

While the like previous transfer made sitting on the bench, Markovic, Lallana, Lamber, Manquillo, Can.

Spurs V2 in making.  doh.gif
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what did spurs do to address, we can't

it was right there for many to see yet many are asked to believe & have faith.


will the walls start to close in or will liverpool realise there is a need to change/reality hits the head?? sad.gif


The scoreline looked terrible (despite what is said we put in a decent performance. I'm sure some Real Madrid fans may have said (of their team) too in their previous dubbing by use years ago.


crisis in lfc? I think it is not, as it is still early season. but the writing is in the wall we won't make pass round 2 and high probability miss top 4 at seasons end. Can BR change the seemingly doomed prophecy by sportswriters, football plaudits, ex-football players etc??


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post Oct 23 2014, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Oct 23 2014, 12:54 PM)
So you are saying Balotelli wanted the huge wage packet and chose not to play for the club because of the manager? If that is so he better be gone in January.

While it is arguable if Rodgers is the manager to bring us to the next level, it is obvious to all that Balotelli is not putting in the shift that is expected of him. He drops to the ground far too easily and is then seen pouting like a child for the next 5 mins instead of getting right back up and winning the ball back. Less mention about his pressing efforts the better.
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the same argument i have seen before when things seemingly not working out in early days with suarez, and a few other instances.

Balotelli can play but probably not this Lfc style atm. rodgers feels he can turn balotelli to a suarez. while many of use feel he is trying to fit a square peg into a circle of which will balo let him or can he?
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post Oct 23 2014, 09:17 PM

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Is there someone who thinks I made up that Brendan Rodgers have the final say on transfers?

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Exclusive: Rodgers on Liverpool transfer committee and how he will always have final say on signings


Brendan Rodgers has praised the work of Liverpool FC’s transfer committee as the manager reiterated he will have the final say on all signings this summer.

The Reds have yet to add to their squad since the window opened earlier this month but the manager has faith in the Anfield officials looking to close out deals.

Rodgers sits on the committee along with managing director Ian Ayre, head of recruitment Dave Fallows and head of performance and analysis Michael Edwards.

It was created by Fenway Sports Group following Rodgers’ arrival two years ago after the owners ditched plans to appoint a director of football

Rodgers must secure the agreement of the committee that a player meets the club’s requirements and is worth pursuing.

However, the boss says the input of Ayre, Fallows and Edwards is a help rather than a hindrance in the recruitment process.

“Obviously, I am involved heavily in the identification of the player,” Rodgers told.

“The principle idea when I first came in was that like any manager you will have the first call on a player and the last call.

“That’s the call on whether he’s good enough to continue to look at and try to organise a deal and the last call to say yes or no.

“There is a big part that goes on in between. In modern football you need to trust other people to do the work. That’s something we do here and that’s why we have had the success we’ve had.

“The finer details of that are left to Ian who does a terrific job and our other guys in that field who will go through the contracts. I am aware of where the situation is at right the way through the process.

“We will never bring in a player here who the manager doesn’t want in. That’s a great credit to the owners and the other people at the club.

“We work very closely together – it’s worth stressing that. It’s key that we are very much one club.

Rodgers is after quality rather than quantity this summer with five or six signings being targeted to ensure Liverpool boast the strength in depth capable of coping with the increased demands of Champions League football next season.

The manager doesn’t intend to dip into the loan market again. Last term the Reds took Victor Moses from Chelsea and Aly Cissokho from Valencia but both flopped and have returned to their parent clubs.

The previous campaign Liverpool snapped up Nuri Sahin from Real Madrid but he failed to establish himself at Anfield and his loan stay was cut short.

“I would hope we don’t have to go for loans this summer,” Rodgers admitted.

“But it’s always about the availability of players. If you are not satisfied with the squad and you feel you can improve it then you have to look at every option.

“In these first couple of years I’ve been here we have had to do that as we’ve had a thin squad.

“The players we wanted we couldn’t get but we’re hopeful that this summer will be different. We turn the page and it’s another chapter in terms of where we are going.
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post Oct 24 2014, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(yeelong @ Oct 24 2014, 06:38 PM)
Hull is play physical game. Either we use small/speed to avoid the physical or we play thru their strenght which i doubt we have.
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Liverpool played only one great game this season, the dismantling of spurs. What the hell happen after that?

Against hull tomorrow. I afraid I might either suffer a heart attack and wreck the mamak's tv or just a heart attack sad.gif sad.gif
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post Oct 25 2014, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(bitebug @ Oct 25 2014, 02:20 AM)
So is the old gaffer coming back to Anfield if BR succumbs?
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speaking hypothetically

Few things to consider.

Gerrard influence

FSG owners

well gerrard may not be at liverpool for another 2-3 years,

The biggest anti Rafa now will be FSG. I know americans (probably american corporate culture), as much as they (FSG) know what the Cowboys did to liverpool, they will feel Rafa instigated (complain about the owners & eventually owners relationship got so bad with the Kopites)

That won't be tolerated under FSG


So can we move on. sweat.gif As much as some of hope may hope, I'm a realist. There will be no 2nd coming of rafa even if should Rodgers is no longer as manager. Which I don't see it happening even if we should miss top four. (touch wood)

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post Oct 25 2014, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 25 2014, 09:34 AM)
Please, Rodgers needs to win at least a silverware, be it a Mickey Mouse cup or Asia Trophy Cup, let alone European Cup to be mentioned in the same breath as Rafa Benitez. What's the point of looking at Napoli?, if he's doing so well at Napoli, you will start pointing his bad patches in Inter, then Getafe and etc etc , you are basically nitpicking his bad patches in every other clubs so that you can justify your point? So is Klopp. At least Klopp brought his team to CL final before with limited resources. And what has BR done prior to this road bump? Help Swansea gained promotion? (Even this point is debatable as some Swansea fans believe he is reaping the hard work of Paolo Sousa and Martinez, and he bailed before things can get worse, but I'm not gonna touch on that) Lets just keep the conversation within Liverpool boundaries.

He got this one shot of glory to pip Rafa Benitez in the history book standings as the first manager to win the EPL for Liverpool, but he blew it. Until he actually ACHIEVES something in Liverpool, Rodgers will always be a pale shadow of Rafa Benitez.
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You made in interesting point that probably Rodgers may not know how to use creative players (Nuri sarin during his stint here)

But a couple of forumers might point, hey well he manage suarez. (Sort off sweat.gif )

A great deal may be made of breandan rodgers but I know he is to stay at least another 2 seasons (with results/league standings that may no appease many)

His position is unlike dalglish (even when dalglish manage to get us one throphy). Kennys tenure got cut short because of the combination on how he is seen to handle evra/suarez fiasco)

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post Oct 25 2014, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 25 2014, 02:51 PM)
Statistic talks yes but those goals stats presented was a too weak to justify your point mate. And come on we have been following football long enough to know how the stat game works man. I can pick up a certain stats like shots off target or conversion rate, return of investment per minutes played and compare them between Kenny's to make BR look bad as well. Does it prove anything? No. Xavi has a higher sideway passing conversion rate per minutes played compared to Xavi Barcelona. Is he a better player than real Xavi? No.

If you know Paul Tomkins, the famous Liverpool writer...this bloke is great at putting up all these compendium of useless stats to back certain individuals and players. At one point, he even wrote a full page article filled with stats on why Woy is best manager to coach Liverpool n he should be given 3 yrs to prove himself.

And I stopped reading his blog soon after.
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I must have missed that, at that time everyone was saying he was too pro benitez. Even post Benitez. To the extend some said maybe he was paid/hired by Rafa rolleyes.gif

I don't know. I don't read much now because hardly anyone link his comments and post matches (he must be less a rodgers fan brigade and yeah, he must has been financed by rafa wink.gif )


But of course we have others who has stepped up and said rodgers is the best liverpool manager for many years because he improved on what dalglish started. Playing real attacking football, and bonus too attractive, not negative football that supposely plagued rafa. sweat.gif

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post Oct 25 2014, 10:15 PM

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Oooi

Apa ini "Rodgers must be nuts? With such line up"


Wait la, this is Rodgers preferred squad lined up. His vision. (Bar balotelli)

Just you wait & see ok smile.gif
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post Oct 26 2014, 06:35 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 26 2014, 01:08 AM)
Yes, the sub is working, clearly 2 upfront the team seems more balance (instead of crowded midfielder and no one to pass on), but shouldn't be it being deployed from the start instead of 60+ mins?
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This is to illustrate to the rafalutions fans tht clearly 1 man upfront don't work wink.gif

Ok, it was a better overall performance even though we didn't win. Shame we lacked bite upfront to add goals.

It's still work in progress. Given the line up is pretty much majority of the LFC players starting are new (LFC rookies) that weren't with LFC last season.


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post Oct 26 2014, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 26 2014, 10:11 AM)
ya, a better game compared to QPR although it is just a point compared to fluke 3 points.
Too bad, the better game only for 30 mins or so, after switching to 2 man upfront.

1 man upfront works well if you have the right man, right tactic, typically work well with Mourinho, whereby you can bus parking after scoring, which clearly Liv under BR is not capable of.

Southampton has more rookies that Liv.  whistling.gif
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Ronald Koeman was a quite a good player those days. I think he must have kept the eye on football even to management. Not many could do a exceptional transition.

Well, there will be those who will say it's still early. Could be fluke sweat.gif wink.gif
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Oct 27 2014, 08:23 AM)
I have no problem with Balotelli, like you said, that was a last min panic buy, and almost all fans including me doesnt fancy the buy, saying Balotelli is a time bomb, its a very big risk and gamble. But what to do, Falcao too exp, cant get Cavani and Benzema, Remy mysterious heart problem. I am still hoping Jan we could get our hand on Benzema > Cavani > Reus. That is my wish.  laugh.gif

And yea regarding the transfer of bunch of overpriced mediocre player, mediocre player should only be around 10m, 15m top. In short, BR and King sucks at transfer, only a selected few will come good with us.
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Benzema? Dream on

Cavani ? Too expensive n kitty we have is exhausted

Rues? 10-20% he will leave and we don't have the kitty bank (same as above reasons)


TacticĂ lly we need someone in the likes of David villa. (If he was much younger). Doesn't need to be "marquee" in that sense but given the way we play, striker who can poach n find spacers nearer to goal. Not long tries from distance.

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