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Apr 18 2017, 10:54 PM
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Apr 18 2017, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE(keledek @ Apr 18 2017, 05:35 PM) Hi just menyibuk coz saw your RAM Gskill Trident Z. Ryzen more prefer Samsung B die chip, so far DDR4 that confirmed using B die chip are GSkill Trident Z 3200mhz CL14 & GSkill Flare X 3200mhz CL14, too bad both of these models not import to Malaysia, Trident Z 3200mhz CL16 most likely using Samsung E die chip or Hynix.I bought a pair few weeks ago but my DDR4 3200 can only go 2400 only being Hynix module single rank Hope yours is 3600 since it may me Samsung ones and can get to 3200 at least Anyway hope u won the silicon lottery This post has been edited by llk: Apr 18 2017, 11:06 PM |
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Apr 19 2017, 08:34 AM
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QUOTE(keledek @ Apr 19 2017, 07:57 AM) DDR4 RAM price is going to increase as the news are circulating now. U are right,im planning to buy Gskill 3200mhz cl14 from overseas which estimated price including shipping rm900++ since my Corsair ram are used for my x99 platformThose higher clocked ones are even pricier Expexted to be so until samsung and hynix get better yield by next year Some youtuber were able to overclock cheapo RAMs to 3000+ speeds. As long as they are cl14 ones |
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Apr 19 2017, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Apr 19 2017, 08:46 AM) Luckily I bought my RAM with some discount coupon at Lazada Ya, that's why thinking whether is worth or not Wow, that's at least RM100 more than tridenz RGB 3200 ( CL15 ) |
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Apr 19 2017, 11:50 AM
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Apr 19 2017, 04:50 PM
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Apr 19 2017, 10:10 PM
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Apr 19 2017, 09:42 PM) Ya, bought a pair already and I think it's correct choice. Just back from Ryzen launch event, many of Ryzen rig there using TridentZ RGB, pair with NZXT water block, fans and LED strip = vomit_rainbow.jpg Hope you can get it run at its native speed, i just re-adjust the timing of my corsair dominator platinum now able to run at 2666mhz, hopefully a few bios updates can solve the problem so that i can save some $$$ for the crazy expensive ram![]() |
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Apr 19 2017, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Apr 19 2017, 10:14 PM) Ya, been worried when I visit reddit. After some consideration, still getting 3200 as price difference to 3000 or 2400 wasnt that far, and I read many did success at running 3200. Its also depends on motherboard, may i know which motherboard you will be using? |
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Apr 20 2017, 08:35 PM
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Apr 21 2017, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(keledek @ Apr 21 2017, 11:26 AM) Based on my understanding, RAM speed higher than 2400 depends on : Ryzen chip internal IMC quality (?assembled in China ones better than ones assembled in Malaysia), Motherboard quality (and is UEFI), RAM Module itself (Samsung B die, single rank and CAS 14 or lower). Exactly what i think of now, i have 4sticks of corsair dominator 3200mhz ddr4 which using for my x99 system, but due to the mobo having problem and sent for warranty, i may sell off my 5930k and the x99 mobo once it back from rma. Therefore it is kinda waste if i buying another set of ddr4 just want to achieve 3000 and above speed and look at the crazy ram price now might not worth. Currently my Corsair ram able to run at 2666mhz (for 2 sticks) i should be satisfied right?However it seems gain as speed increase has diminishing return ie big gain from 2133 to 2666 then modest from 2666 to 3200 and minimal from 3200 above. Also each program or games will react differently with increased RAM speed. Some no benefit at all. It seems sweet spot is 2999 However i still think we should get the RAM speed that we paid for |
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Apr 21 2017, 03:08 PM
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Apr 21 2017, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 21 2017, 05:24 PM) You can try if u need more ram size, just maybe the speed will lower, there are few people ryzen with 4 ram works. I have no idea why the cpu temperature shown in AMD Ryzen master software is so much different with other monitoring software, look at my stability test temperature result, AMD Ryzen master showing 69.75degree but HWinfo64 shown 55degree Yup, its is assembled. But didnt make an advantage for silicon lottery, not as intel CostaRica and Malaysia will cause a huge different @@ QVL is not guarantee, but almost follow the QVL get u biggest chance to have your ram run the speed it should be. Ram compatibility problem just only can give time for mobo vendor to fix out. Besides, the VRM temperature for Asrock Fatality X370 K4 kinda scary, exceed 70degree Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Apr 21 2017, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Apr 21 2017, 07:41 PM) It has 20" offset, but should be fixed in latest Ryzen master I tot it only happened in 'X' variants? http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-ryzen...ing-offset.html Btw i didn't try to plug another 2 sticks because the dimm slots have been blocked by hardtube need to drain & dismantle the WC |
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Apr 21 2017, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 21 2017, 08:35 PM) I rem the safe temp range of VRM is different with cpu, cpu should below 80'c, but vrm is depends or mobo's vrm component. As asrock taichi's vrm, from datasheet it can hold up temp as high as 125'c. I see, thanks for your clarification.The temp 20% offset problem is a software issue, not just for X version XD I felt this forum not much Ryzen users sharing their system or actually not much users here? |
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Apr 21 2017, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 21 2017, 09:08 PM) I think is really not many ryzen user here, since still intel is name more famous? XD Haha the cheaper K4 is about same as expensive giga gaming 5 that's make me felt more comfortable. I'm thinking should i buy more expensive board or not look like nothing to worry about Just done googled some VRM thermal imaging of mobo http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8135/asro...ew/index10.html About VRM temp that user shared out of their info [attachmentid=8755629][attachmentid=8755630][attachmentid=8755631] I think even with VRM high temp, doesnt means that your board pcb will get high temp as ur vrm does. But it sure that a long time run under very high temp as there are no heatsink for vrm, will get u result that a well done toast mobo. X370 VRM temps related according tweaktown thermal imaging asrock x370 taichi > biostar x370gt7 > asus rog chrosshair > GIGABYTE AX370-Gaming 5 = asrock x370 k4 > msi x370 krait |
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Apr 22 2017, 01:59 PM
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Apr 22 2017, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 22 2017, 02:06 PM) VRM $$ on board Absolutely, those with best VRM the price also much more higher, i will just continue use the board until if one day it failed then only look for high end board B350 mobo range Gigabyte (4+3 with onsemi) > Asus (4+2 with onsemi) > Biostar (4+3 with sinosemi) > MSI (4+2 with nikosem) > ASROCK (3+3 with nikosem1) X370 mobo range asrock taichi/pro gaming X370 (6x2+2x2 with TiNexfet) = biostar x370gt7 (6x2+2 with Infineon) > asus rog crosshair (4x2+2x2 with TiNexfet) ~ asus prime x370 (6+2x2 with TiNexfet)> GIGABYTE x370 (6+2x2 with Infineon) > MSI titanium (6+2x2 with nikosemi) > asrock Gaming K4/Sli x370 (4x2+2x2 with nikosemi/sinosemi) > msi gaming pro and below (4x2+2 with nikosemi) Heat should about same becoz of vrm design 6+2x2 vs 4x2+2x2, more expensive for gigabyte x370 may caused by VRM price onboard, gigabyte auros using germany infineon compared to asrock k4 china sinosemi/taiwan nicosemi. |
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Apr 22 2017, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 22 2017, 02:06 PM) VRM $$ on board I just plug all 4 sticks dominator RAMs surprisingly can be run at 2666mhz 1,35v B350 mobo range Gigabyte (4+3 with onsemi) > Asus (4+2 with onsemi) > Biostar (4+3 with sinosemi) > MSI (4+2 with nikosem) > ASROCK (3+3 with nikosem1) X370 mobo range asrock taichi/pro gaming X370 (6x2+2x2 with TiNexfet) = biostar x370gt7 (6x2+2 with Infineon) > asus rog crosshair (4x2+2x2 with TiNexfet) ~ asus prime x370 (6+2x2 with TiNexfet)> GIGABYTE x370 (6+2x2 with Infineon) > MSI titanium (6+2x2 with nikosemi) > asrock Gaming K4/Sli x370 (4x2+2x2 with nikosemi/sinosemi) > msi gaming pro and below (4x2+2 with nikosemi) Thermal Imaging from tweaktown asrock x370 taichi > biostar x370gt7 > asus rog chrosshair > GIGABYTE AX370-Gaming 5 = asrock x370 k4 > msi x370 krait Just googled around and make a roughly quality and performance of VRM of AM4 mobo, in traits, seems powerphase design and quality of VRM effect the thermal. Heat should about same becoz of vrm design 6+2x2 vs 4x2+2x2, more expensive for gigabyte x370 may caused by VRM price onboard, gigabyte auros using germany infineon compared to asrock k4 china sinosemi/taiwan nicosemi. QUOTE((Andy) @ Apr 22 2017, 08:06 PM) Welcome onboard, do you OC the cpu? Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Apr 22 2017, 09:00 PM
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Apr 22 2017, 09:18 PM
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