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post Apr 18 2017, 10:54 PM

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Watercooled my Ryzen 1700 at 3.9ghz @ 1.3375v


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post Apr 18 2017, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(keledek @ Apr 18 2017, 05:35 PM)
Hi just menyibuk coz saw your RAM Gskill Trident Z.
I bought a pair few weeks ago but my DDR4 3200 can only go 2400 only being Hynix module single rank
Hope yours is 3600 since it may me Samsung ones and can get to 3200 at least
Anyway hope u won the silicon lottery
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Ryzen more prefer Samsung B die chip, so far DDR4 that confirmed using B die chip are GSkill Trident Z 3200mhz CL14 & GSkill Flare X 3200mhz CL14, too bad both of these models not import to Malaysia, Trident Z 3200mhz CL16 most likely using Samsung E die chip or Hynix.

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post Apr 19 2017, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(keledek @ Apr 19 2017, 07:57 AM)
DDR4 RAM price is going to increase as the news are circulating now.
Those higher clocked ones are even pricier
Expexted to be so until samsung and hynix get better yield by next year
Some youtuber were able to overclock cheapo RAMs to 3000+ speeds. As long as they are cl14 ones
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U are right,im planning to buy Gskill 3200mhz cl14 from overseas which estimated price including shipping rm900++ since my Corsair ram are used for my x99 platform
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post Apr 19 2017, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Apr 19 2017, 08:46 AM)
Luckily I bought my RAM with some discount coupon at Lazada  rclxms.gif  before they raise price.
Wow, that's at least RM100 more than tridenz RGB 3200 ( CL15 )  laugh.gif
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Ya, that's why thinking whether is worth or not sad.gif, last week check with Sri computer rm760, after 2 days ask again become rm819
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post Apr 19 2017, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Apr 19 2017, 11:47 AM)
Tridentz RGB 3200 ? Why no share  biggrin.gif  cry.gif 
I've doing research and looking for cheapest seller, for 2 weeks  sweat.gif
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Lol..i thought the price not so attractive biggrin.gif
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post Apr 19 2017, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Apr 19 2017, 02:02 PM)
Is it ? damn
I need that beautiful RAM for my build, so had to endure the high price  sweat.gif
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I thought u already bought, u want 4x8Gb?
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post Apr 19 2017, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Apr 19 2017, 09:42 PM)
Ya, bought a pair already and I think it's correct choice. Just back from Ryzen launch event, many of Ryzen rig there using TridentZ RGB, pair with NZXT water block, fans and LED strip = vomit_rainbow.jpg

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Hope you can get it run at its native speed, i just re-adjust the timing of my corsair dominator platinum now able to run at 2666mhz, hopefully a few bios updates can solve the problem so that i can save some $$$ for the crazy expensive ram
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post Apr 19 2017, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Apr 19 2017, 10:14 PM)
Ya, been worried when I visit reddit. After some consideration, still getting 3200 as price difference to 3000 or 2400 wasnt that far, and I read many did success at running 3200.
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Its also depends on motherboard, may i know which motherboard you will be using?
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post Apr 20 2017, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Apr 20 2017, 08:09 PM)
Free t-shirt from event.
The screwdriver and keychain need to win ( basically tag & share in FB )
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FYI: That Ryzen 7 processor I bought myself one  laugh.gif
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Waa no bad maa rclxms.gif
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post Apr 21 2017, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(keledek @ Apr 21 2017, 11:26 AM)
Based on my understanding, RAM speed higher than 2400 depends on : Ryzen chip internal IMC quality (?assembled in China ones better than ones assembled in Malaysia), Motherboard quality (and is UEFI), RAM Module itself (Samsung B die, single rank and CAS 14 or lower).
However it seems gain as speed increase has diminishing return ie big gain from 2133 to 2666 then modest from 2666 to 3200 and minimal from 3200 above.
Also each program or games will react differently with increased RAM speed. Some no benefit at all.
It seems sweet spot is 2999
However i still think we should get the RAM speed that we paid for
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Exactly what i think of now, i have 4sticks of corsair dominator 3200mhz ddr4 which using for my x99 system, but due to the mobo having problem and sent for warranty, i may sell off my 5930k and the x99 mobo once it back from rma. Therefore it is kinda waste if i buying another set of ddr4 just want to achieve 3000 and above speed and look at the crazy ram price now might not worth. Currently my Corsair ram able to run at 2666mhz (for 2 sticks) i should be satisfied right?
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post Apr 21 2017, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 21 2017, 03:05 PM)
Its significant boost only from 2666mhz to  3200mhz. Had you try 2 stick? maybe can better ram speed?
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I'm using 2 sticks at the moment, never try 4 sticks, i believe it wont boot
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post Apr 21 2017, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 21 2017, 05:24 PM)
You can try if u need more ram size, just maybe the speed will lower, there are few people ryzen with 4 ram works.
Yup, its is assembled. But didnt make an advantage for silicon lottery, not as intel CostaRica and Malaysia will cause a huge different @@
QVL is not guarantee, but almost follow the QVL get u biggest chance to have your ram run the speed it should be.

Ram compatibility problem just only can give time for mobo vendor to fix out.
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I have no idea why the cpu temperature shown in AMD Ryzen master software is so much different with other monitoring software, look at my stability test temperature result, AMD Ryzen master showing 69.75degree but HWinfo64 shown 55degree rclxub.gif

Besides, the VRM temperature for Asrock Fatality X370 K4 kinda scary, exceed 70degree shakehead.gif


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post Apr 21 2017, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Apr 21 2017, 07:41 PM)
It has 20" offset, but should be fixed in latest Ryzen master

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-ryzen...ing-offset.html
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I tot it only happened in 'X' variants? hmm.gif
Btw i didn't try to plug another 2 sticks because the dimm slots have been blocked by hardtube need to drain & dismantle the WC sad.gif
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post Apr 21 2017, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 21 2017, 08:35 PM)
I rem the safe temp range of VRM is different with cpu, cpu should below 80'c, but vrm is depends or mobo's vrm component. As asrock taichi's vrm, from datasheet it can hold up temp as high as 125'c.

The temp 20% offset problem is a software issue, not just for X version XD
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I see, thanks for your clarification.

I felt this forum not much Ryzen users sharing their system or actually not much users here? hmm.gif
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post Apr 21 2017, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 21 2017, 09:08 PM)
I think is really not many ryzen user here, since still intel is name more famous? XD

Just done googled some VRM thermal imaging of mobo
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8135/asro...ew/index10.html

About VRM temp that user shared out of their info
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I think even with VRM high temp, doesnt means that your board pcb will get high temp as ur vrm does. But it sure that a long time run under very high temp as there are no heatsink for vrm, will get u result that a well done toast mobo.

X370 VRM temps related according tweaktown thermal imaging
asrock x370 taichi > biostar x370gt7 > asus rog chrosshair > GIGABYTE AX370-Gaming 5 = asrock x370 k4 > msi x370 krait
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Haha the cheaper K4 is about same as expensive giga gaming 5 that's make me felt more comfortable. I'm thinking should i buy more expensive board or not look like nothing to worry about biggrin.gif
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post Apr 22 2017, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Apr 22 2017, 12:32 PM)
All my essential components arrived, but damn it, MSI B350 tomahawk arctic no stock yet  cry.gif
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Topmaid & Jayacom also no stock?
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post Apr 22 2017, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 22 2017, 02:06 PM)
VRM $$ on board

B350 mobo range
Gigabyte (4+3 with onsemi) > Asus (4+2 with onsemi) > Biostar (4+3 with sinosemi) > MSI (4+2 with nikosem) > ASROCK (3+3 with nikosem1)

X370 mobo range
asrock taichi/pro gaming X370 (6x2+2x2 with TiNexfet) = biostar x370gt7 (6x2+2 with Infineon) > asus rog crosshair (4x2+2x2 with TiNexfet) ~ asus prime x370 (6+2x2 with TiNexfet)> GIGABYTE x370 (6+2x2 with Infineon) > MSI titanium (6+2x2 with nikosemi) > asrock Gaming K4/Sli x370 (4x2+2x2 with nikosemi/sinosemi) > msi gaming pro and below (4x2+2 with nikosemi)
Heat should about same becoz of vrm design 6+2x2 vs 4x2+2x2, more expensive for gigabyte x370 may caused by VRM price onboard, gigabyte auros using germany infineon compared to asrock k4 china sinosemi/taiwan nicosemi.
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Absolutely, those with best VRM the price also much more higher, i will just continue use the board until if one day it failed then only look for high end board biggrin.gif
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post Apr 22 2017, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(eDwanD @ Apr 22 2017, 02:06 PM)
VRM $$ on board

B350 mobo range
Gigabyte (4+3 with onsemi) > Asus (4+2 with onsemi) > Biostar (4+3 with sinosemi) > MSI (4+2 with nikosem) > ASROCK (3+3 with nikosem1)

X370 mobo range
asrock taichi/pro gaming X370 (6x2+2x2 with TiNexfet) = biostar x370gt7 (6x2+2 with Infineon) > asus rog crosshair (4x2+2x2 with TiNexfet) ~ asus prime x370 (6+2x2 with TiNexfet)> GIGABYTE x370 (6+2x2 with Infineon) > MSI titanium (6+2x2 with nikosemi) > asrock Gaming K4/Sli x370 (4x2+2x2 with nikosemi/sinosemi) > msi gaming pro and below (4x2+2 with nikosemi)

Thermal Imaging from tweaktown
asrock x370 taichi > biostar x370gt7 > asus rog chrosshair > GIGABYTE AX370-Gaming 5 = asrock x370 k4 > msi x370 krait
Just googled around and make a roughly quality and performance of VRM of AM4 mobo, in traits, seems powerphase design and quality of VRM effect the thermal.
Heat should about same becoz of vrm design 6+2x2 vs 4x2+2x2, more expensive for gigabyte x370 may caused by VRM price onboard, gigabyte auros using germany infineon compared to asrock k4 china sinosemi/taiwan nicosemi.
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I just plug all 4 sticks dominator RAMs surprisingly can be run at 2666mhz 1,35v



QUOTE((Andy) @ Apr 22 2017, 08:06 PM)
hi all sifus, ryzen 5 user reporting in ^^
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Welcome onboard, do you OC the cpu? biggrin.gif


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post Apr 22 2017, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE((Andy) @ Apr 22 2017, 08:56 PM)
yea manage to oc to 3.9 ghz on asrock gaming k4 too. hehe without any voltage increase
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Wow that is fantastic rclxms.gif , what is the voltage btw?
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post Apr 22 2017, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 22 2017, 09:11 PM)
Refer to my video above.

btw what's your processor model?
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I'm using 1700, the temp shown in Ryzen Master is higher than other monitoring software eg aida64

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