What is the minimum amount of precious metals I can bring accross malaysia from Singapore.
Can someone give me an answer?
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Nov 20 2014, 04:09 PM
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What is the minimum amount of precious metals I can bring accross malaysia from Singapore.
Can someone give me an answer? |
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Nov 24 2014, 02:41 AM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Nov 20 2014, 06:27 PM) U been saying of this since early of the year.... Are you even sure about this.Gold price is set internationally and if u buy any gold bullion from banks or licensed company the spread is quite competitve...so i dont understand why the insist of buying gold in singapore n brining it back here? They have gold mine i si gapore n selling it at huge discount there ah? Because it seems that you never do your damn research. Precious Metals is definitely cheaper in singapore. Have you even taken the time to do an actual compare? No. All you have is assumptions. Obviously you never research about this. Nope they dun have. But then government regulation over there supports bullion dealership. There is no similar gov support over here. Confirm, ppl like you cannot be taken seriously. And we expect to take you seriously. Do you even google? I never ever said that you should buy in singapore and carry over here before. You said gold is priced the same internationally. Do you know that in Britain, you have to pay 20% tax when u buy gold? Think before you talk lah. https://www.buysilvermalaysia.com/shop/prod...-Mint-RCM-100-/]https://www.buysilvermalaysia.com/shop/prod...-Mint-RCM-100 https://www.bullionstar.com/buy/silver-bars I hope you know how to use a calculator to do the conversion. This post has been edited by sylar111: Nov 24 2014, 02:52 AM |
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Nov 24 2014, 02:46 AM
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Nov 24 2014, 02:51 AM
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Nov 24 2014, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Nov 24 2014, 12:24 PM) Thrs no gold tax as well if u buy any weight in malaysia. They take a small amount of commission in spread of buy amd sell. No tax on trading it so far so what do u mean by malaysian governemtn dont support it? I have already given you the comparison between the 2 prices.And if u buy in sgd in sg im pretty sur gold price set internationally in USD and exchange rate would follow back the green back as the benchmark for conversion... You would likely even lose more money if u buy there in sgd..when u exchange rm in sgd u already lose a few percentage as the forex counter ppl charge u the commission through their spread. Carrying stuff from sg to malaysia also cost much more in transport fees. It is also highly risky as u migh get robbed or the customs department seize ur asset. They can charge u with any form of suspicious activity including money laundering an confiscate ur asset at will... Unless u r saying the governmen of sg subsidize ppl buying gold but then that a big joke.... Did you even compare the 2 prices? That is why I am asking the question as to how much I can bring in from Singapore. Guess not. This post has been edited by sylar111: Nov 24 2014, 04:40 PM |
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Nov 26 2014, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(sinbad2k @ Nov 26 2014, 11:25 AM) Get real physical gold. Don't buy from goldsmith shop or gold jewelry shop though. Buy gold bullion products like gold coins (e.g. Kijang Emas, Canadian Maple Leaf, PAMP gold bars, etc.) It depends on the your purpose of investing in gold. If you're looking to short sell it, don't even think of investing in gold. If you're investing it as a hedge against inflation, just buy any amount that you're comfortable with. It's a good time to buy too as gold price has been dropping for the past 2 years. Gold prices usually trends opposite of USD. I really do not understand why you want to buy gold from banksIf you still want to open a paper gold account with banks, Public Bank should be the best as their spread is low but they don't offer online facility(buy/sell) like Maybank, CIMB, etc.. They give you unattractive spread and also you have to pay for storage and other fees. Also they may not even have the gold inside their vault. If you want to buy paper gold, may as well open a trading account. You get the most minimal spread and fees. Hai You may as well buy the real thing. This post has been edited by sylar111: Nov 26 2014, 02:17 PM |
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Dec 1 2014, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 1 2014, 01:35 PM) Are you sure now that gold will go to 1000USD? Actually, seeing gold recovering so fast makes me a little arrr sad.Note that with negative gofo rate, going to 1000USD will only make the whole situation a little arrrrrr "complicated" This post has been edited by sylar111: Dec 1 2014, 09:52 PM |
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Dec 2 2014, 01:42 AM
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Dec 2 2014, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 2 2014, 12:33 PM) Trolled?You said gold will go down. It broke 1200 and even went 1220. It has form a new support at the 1200 level. Seriously, you are a joke. You really are. Cannot be taken seriously at all. You think that the only factor in Gold is the current paper price. But then, even traders are aware of the demand for the physical right now and they know that if price goes down too much, supply will eventually run out and then real market forces take control. Supplies are very limited based on gofo rates. Looking at the charts, you seriously think that Gold price is really based on supply and demand or is it a game of poker. To me, it's more of a game of poker rather then supply and demand but seeing your sophisication, you probably actually think that the gold price is actually based on supply and demand. I mean what can we expect from someone who cannot even do a price comparison even when the links are provided. So how much did you lose by shorting. This post has been edited by sylar111: Dec 2 2014, 02:55 PM |
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Dec 2 2014, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 2 2014, 07:06 PM) You bet on up? I bet nothing so far. Im just monitoring it. Let see where it will go long term. Not interested on short term outlook... I know it will not go up forever.I bought some mining stocks recently. Because as I said. This market is fixed. It's more of a poker game rather then the real market. Traders playing gold are not interested in gold. They are only interested in "outwitting" each other. Also there will be those large obvious naked shorts on option expiry day. Last Friday was option expiry day and that is why you see precious metals getting whacked. If you look at the chart last Friday or Thursday and never suspect anything, then really nothing to say. The thing is, you could probably make some money predicting what would likely be the next move then just holding long. Because it will take some time. As I said. There are many signs that actual physical gold in the open market is running out. when that happens. Say good bye to the current price mechanism that you are currently using. |
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Dec 2 2014, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 2 2014, 08:09 PM) Thr are wild swing this 2 days. Last i check yesterday afternoon it was 1150. No suddenpy exceed 1200. Nope i dont dare yet to touch this commodity unless it drop below 1k usd. If not ill just monitor from the side. So you dun even read charts.And you claim to be an "expert". Seriously. I overestimated your abilities. You lack even the most basic skills. http://goldprice.org/ For the rest who is interested. I am dealing with a moron all this while. This post has been edited by sylar111: Dec 2 2014, 08:51 PM |
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Dec 3 2014, 01:08 AM
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QUOTE(dc28yk @ Dec 2 2014, 09:04 PM) A gold bug don't really care if the price is up or down.. they will just collect it. Actually they care.An investor will then monitor the up and down like a manic... I mean if I think the price will go down. Why should I collect now? Remember, most gold bugs are actually logical people who have decent financial discernment. |
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Dec 3 2014, 07:56 AM
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Dec 3 2014, 01:17 AM) Who is interested at those more and more offensive remarks ? no one it seems. I guess another one in this forum.cannot be taken seriously la , so what. wrong prediction so what, follow at your own risk. you are a joke, you really are . Seeing no hurt, became more toxic, putting an expert hat on, overestimated own abilities, people lack basic skills to the extent of screaming out a moron ? Just what abilities you have to justify all that? Can predict gold? you got crystal balls so unbreakable? |
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Dec 3 2014, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 3 2014, 01:36 PM) Beside jewelry, gold has hardly any industrial use. Believe over 80% gold mined is recycled mean quantity of gold available is increasing every year. icemanfx.Keeping and storing gold is a liability and don't generate any income, beside long term gold price is unpredictable. Money could be better invested elsewhere. That is precisely why Gold is viewed as the best form of money. Because it has no industrialusage. Because it has very little usage. The amount of available gold that are currently open is very limited actually. Based on your theory, gold should be near zero if gold is just something which is aesthetic and has no real value. The fact that 1kg of gold right now could probably buy you a Honda says otherwise. If gold was so unvaluable, why is that so. Why is it that people still put such a premium on something that just looks nice on the outside. But has no usage as all in other things. Well, the amount of gold that can be mined is very limited. I believe market forces has priced that in. So where do you think you want to invest your money in? Stock Market? Do you know the stock market has been tanking recently? So are you proposing that you put your money right now into "good" company and when a crash comes, can come anytime based on fundamentals not only of Malaysia but of the whole world in general, that you just tell yourself that hey I am after all "contributing" to the economy. Oh put in bonds whereby governments around the world has been inflating like nobodies business. Or in the over inflated property market that we have which will most likely crash together with the stock market. You seem to have an understanding of booms and bust. But then your understanding of Gold and the history of Gold is very limited. The fact that central banks around the world accumulates Gold shows that the top people still put a premium on Gold. If gold was so useless, why are central banks accumulating something which is useless? Are they stupid? As an economics student, why dun you understand terms like gofo rates instead of just being under the cave? I think you should maybe try to look at the world not based on just what your professor says. This post has been edited by sylar111: Dec 3 2014, 04:23 PM |
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Dec 3 2014, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 3 2014, 02:59 PM) The limitation to collecting it long term is its a static asset. U cant rent it out to people. U wont receive a dividend for keeping it with any financial institution as its not liquid like fiat currency and can be channeled for invesment and given dividend. Gold can actually be used as collateral.There are other assets class like property collecting rental or shares in a companies that is more dynamic and can give u passive return overtime. However gold still remain the best instrument to hedge against any potential economic collapse You can use the Gold that you have to reduce the interest payment as when you give the lender Gold as collateral, interest will be reduced. Guess you did not know that as well. Many things you dunno actually. |
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Dec 3 2014, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 3 2014, 06:04 PM) I think he try to explain in terms of using gold or silver directly in the trading between community. Our current fiancial model is based on fiat paper printing money. As I said earlier.No doubt gold can be purchased either as paper asset or physical side. But its usage in world economy is rather limited towards perceive 'investment', 'hedge', 'store of value'. If we can somehow integrate gold/silver into daily trade between ppl..im sure the value can go much higjer. Right now the current fiat system used in our community is isolating this physical asset with such limited usage. If gold is so useless, why is it that 1kg of it can buy you a luxury car. Why would central banks accumulate this if the fiat system can really isolate this physical asset. But logic is obviously not your forte. I agree with you. At the moment, gold does not look like an "inflation" hedge. Any idiot can tell you that based on the chart of recent years. But then, what if gold is indeed an inflation hedge but because it is currently suppressed and that is why it does not reach it's true value. What happens when the suppression stops? Fiat paper money printing is obviously fantasy. I mean unless you think you can really create wealth from thin air. It goes against the logic of things. The thing is. You got so caught up with the stock market which is tanking right now and which is showing signs of crashing that you forget about fundamentals. This post has been edited by sylar111: Dec 3 2014, 06:24 PM |
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Dec 3 2014, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(lyralp @ Dec 3 2014, 06:17 PM) What is Gold or to be more specific what is physical Gold? It is a PRECIOUS metal. It has little industrial use but has huge respect and demand especially in Asia. It is historically a currency (Many people especially the rich people would accept Gold as payment). It serves as a hedge against inflation and so bad news is good news for Gold and for this reason the rich like to keep 10% of their wealth in physical Gold, just in case. It is limited in supply, estimated to be only 174,100 tons above ground and 52,000 tons below ground. If all the Gold above ground was melted down it would make a cube of only 20 meters high. It takes eight years to get it from ground to counter. In the past. Yes. Bad news will probably drive gold price up.I guess not so right now. It's a manipulated market out there and the whole game stops once available gold runs out of supply. |
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Dec 3 2014, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(lyralp @ Dec 3 2014, 06:26 PM) If you want to make money trading or investing in Gold then it is no different than wanting to make money trading/investing any other asset i.e. shares, futures, property, commodities, etc. and requires you to acquire the knowledge, tools, skills and experience, no short-cuts. Further, need focus, patience, etc, etc. that is why 5% of the world population hold 95% of the global wealth and as always there are exceptions. The reason why 5% of the world population hold so much wealth is because they understand real value.Compared to the rest of the world population that only knows how to buy at the top and lose almost everything when a crash comes. They probably desensitized themselves from price fluctuation because they know that sometimes market can be irrational. This post has been edited by sylar111: Dec 3 2014, 06:30 PM |
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Dec 3 2014, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 3 2014, 08:57 PM) As long as people accept fiat money, there is a value. Collectors. Collectors who are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars buying gold bars as a collectors item.Gold is not unlike gem stone or paintings, lack of industrial use but there are collectors willing to pay for it, hence a value. Gem stone could worth more than gold by weight and even more limited in supply. Most central bankers are holding less and less gold as a reserve. As paper money is no longer backed by gold, holding gold is more for perception value. Gold price has no relation to inflation but speculation. As over 80% of gold mined is recycled, it has never been a shortage of gold. Gold price is not been suppressed but abandoned by gold fund investors. If one realised how gold miners orchestrated the last gold bull run, will abstain from buying gold. Great. Ok. To be honest you are really out of tune. Yeah. Spending billions even trillions of dollars just for perception value. Ok. Obviously never read the news about the recent repatriation request by countries. Well, you obviously never paid attention to the charts. Talk is cheap. Just be an academic. You are not fit for the outside world. Nuff said. |
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Dec 4 2014, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 3 2014, 11:56 PM) From the comments its obvious we are dealing with a hardcore goldbug, not investor that looks at all type of investment instrument comprehensively... I am pro gold.How you know that I do not consider other investments. The thing is. You do not know what you are talking about so your only defense is to attack others. I doubt you made that much in your investments as well. |
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