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 Gold Investment Corner V8, All About Gold

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prophetjul
post May 30 2016, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 30 2016, 05:57 PM)
http://onlygold.com/m/Prices/Prices200Years.asp

In 1980, gold price was close to $600/oz.

Gold is a commodity, price goes up as well as down.
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Actually in 1980, gold price went up to $850.

So it overshot.

There is not much use for gold, so how is it a commodity?
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post May 31 2016, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 31 2016, 01:00 AM)
If gold price could dropped by over 70% and stayed depressed for over 20 years, how could it use for hedging ?

Gold is almost useless industrially.
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It's hedging for a time. Situational.

In 2002 when Greenspan was easing everything, we bought gold because we saw financial disaster coming with the sub prime practices et al.
It was $230 then. Guess what? It went up to $1900 and the financial system almost broke!

Yanks tell that in 1900 , an ounce of gold bought a very nice suit. In 2016, an ounce still does that. Not too far from the Truth.

If the financial system broke, you would be broke. IF...............
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post Jun 1 2016, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 31 2016, 07:49 PM)
You bought gold since 2002, what is your take of gold price vs djia index for the next 10 years?
Industrial uses such as?
If i could tell ya that, i won't be sitting here chatting with you. No ONE can tell you what's going to happen definitely.
One can only look at the events happening and try to build the end result from there.

One thing, China is still the elephant in the room. Too many risks here which will affect the world economy, not to mentioned it's rather questionable banking systems and stock market.

The world markets are at a stretch, straining to make the next step up. However, there is no catalyst for that.


Industrial Uses of Gold
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post Jun 1 2016, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jun 1 2016, 12:45 PM)
Boss, he did make a few predictions, explicitly on Grexit, DJIA, London property, Oil, RM, and Shanghai stock market. All I can say is his prediction is very consistent  brows.gif
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Oops

Just saw ice's quotes at your tags biggrin.gif
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post Jun 1 2016, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Jun 1 2016, 05:36 PM)
Just for your consumption and amusement, he made the following predictions :

1. Predicted Greece will exit Euro 1 week before Greece decides
2. Recommended buy DJIA when it was 17xxx late last year. DJIA went down to 15xxx. Luckily recovered back to 17xxx now
3. Recommended London property like Battersea. Early this year it was reported the project was down 20%
4. Predicted oil continue its down trend when it tanked to mid-20s just earlier this year
5. When RM was close to 4.45 in recent months, predicted further depreciation
6. Recommended buy Shanghai stock when it reached 5xxx point mid-last year

I am sure you know what happened to the above predictions.

Let's see what is his recommendation on gold price. And also his predictions in my signature will come true or not  biggrin.gif
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o MY.........
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post Jun 2 2016, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jun 1 2016, 08:43 PM)
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Less than 10% of gold mined is used industrially.
http://www.businessinsider.com/global-supp...?IR=T&r=US&IR=T
showtime747 is my loyal follower, he double his wealth every year and he is going to double again from gold purchase.
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There ARE industrial uses the. That's confirmed!

Never say never. When i bought at $230 in 2002, i would never guessed it could have gone to $1900.

THAT is MORE than DOUBLE! laugh.gif
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post Jun 2 2016, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jun 2 2016, 09:47 AM)
Guess you didn't sell at $1900 and still keep your gold.

Over 80% of gold mined still remain in circulation.
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Of course, i traded the rise. Who wouldn't?
Guess what?

Those that i kept helped me to mitigate MYR depreciation. biggrin.gif

MYR terms: Bot at MYR1150, presently MYR5100 laugh.gif
think that's better than buying SGD for hedging. biggrin.gif

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post Jun 2 2016, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jun 2 2016, 12:55 PM)
Yes, cow can fly.

If you really bought in 2002, you wouldn't forget MYR was at about 3.8 to US$.
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You meant Pigs.

So from MYR1150 to MYR5100 is not a good hedge? i have heard of stranger things!
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post Jun 24 2016, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(kalliban @ Jun 20 2016, 06:27 PM)
Better sell ur gold now!!! Its droppin fast!!!
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QUOTE(kalliban @ Jun 22 2016, 12:46 AM)
See gold drop liao nobody belip me...

Gold just drop -22usd!!! At the time of this writing...
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QUOTE(kalliban @ Jun 22 2016, 11:59 AM)
They been saying gold will go to the moon since forever lol...
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post Jun 27 2016, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(kalliban @ Jun 24 2016, 09:01 PM)
You crazy gold will drop like hell as soon as soon as brexit worries ease and ppl realise that gold is a waste of money...better invest in stock lah..
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You sound exactly like your icon rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Jul 22 2016, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 15 2016, 10:17 AM)
Is UOB gold good gold investment (spread is small compare to other banks in malaysia)?
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If you are worried about spread, buy GLD Spdr Gold Shares ETF. Just brokerage fees
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post Sep 30 2016, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 29 2016, 03:51 PM)
Copper, iron, coal, aluminum, palm oil, fuel oil value doesn't go down to zero either.

Gold is one least useful metal, is a commodity, is for speculation.
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Commodity or money? If it is unuseful, how is it a commodity?
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post Sep 30 2016, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 30 2016, 10:03 AM)
There is a difference between least useful ( in industrial applications) and unuseful. Most bought gold for the sentiment value or blinded by greed.
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Really?

History shows otherwise. Gold has been recognised as money for eons.

Most buy it nowadays for jewellery or invest in it for lack of confidence in psseudo money called fiat.
And history has shown that the bankers will manipulate fiat to the detriment of the people.
Think it's the fiat proponents who are Greedy.

i bought gold in 2002 as US was pump priming like mad, and greedy bankers selling crap in the markets called CDOs junk.

Now you hear that banks are straining at the seems. aka Deutsche

Economics is a cycle. The greedy play it up till it burst and the people are left to hold the bag. No difference in history.
Human Greed does not change. Just takes different forms
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post Sep 30 2016, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 30 2016, 02:38 PM)
Cowry was accepted as currency also.

Over 80% gold mines become jewelry and investment, and most if not all will be recycled I.e amount available is accumulating.

If gold could hedge against fiat money, today's gold price should be over $2000.

Like cowry, gold value is sentiment and perception.
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How long did cowry last as currency?

How long did gold last as currency?
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post Oct 3 2016, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 30 2016, 05:51 PM)
Both is history, is trade on sentiment.
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Didn't realise we can still trade cowry as currency laugh.gif
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post Oct 3 2016, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(goldsilverong @ Oct 1 2016, 01:08 PM)
Gold like equity have their Up's and Down's. Gold get smashed since the past 5 years and keep manipulated, very soon the market will correct the situation...Gold may be no more affordable like now!  bruce.gif
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Yeah

Bought gold at Rm1200. went to Rm5900. Smashed down. Now around Rm5500. Not sooo bad
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post Oct 3 2016, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 3 2016, 05:00 PM)
How much of this gain is from rm depreciation against usd?
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you work it out.

Bought it at USD230
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post Oct 3 2016, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 3 2016, 06:29 PM)
RM1200/USD230 => USD 1= RM5.2?
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Rm1200 is average in 2002. In USD could be 230 to 260

Those days could only invest in Kijang gold coins

Here

http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=statist...th=9&EndYr=2003

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post Oct 4 2016, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 4 2016, 01:59 AM)
Are you saying your gold was all bought or first bought in 2002?
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Yeah.

Once in 2002

Another when gold retreated to around $680
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post Oct 4 2016, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 4 2016, 10:49 AM)
So you bought gold twice only?
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Yeah. In those 2 periods

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