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Motamaji
post Sep 24 2014, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Sep 24 2014, 11:07 AM)
might be alarm module gone haywire... or either got pest/insect bite ur wiring till haywire... try to check the alarm module c got any wiring loosen and got any bite mark.... if not send to familiar/recommended acc. shop for checking...
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haiz....i ady send to 2 proton service center and acc shop to check. but all can't found the problem.....and asked me to change the whole set alarm
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post Sep 24 2014, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(wankel @ Sep 24 2014, 10:56 AM)
Within five minutes of getting my FLX home I'd had the displeasure of discovering it had an alarm, quickly followed by unplugging the noise box under the bonnet. Since then it still decides to quietly lock up and flash lights at whatever whim takes its fancy, I even find that hard to endure but at least happily the car salesman explained one thing to me, how to turn it off. I'm tempted to pull fuses marked alarm but sense that will be a fail.
I too would welcome tales of how to manage the alarm.
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high five man.....but mine only happen after 5yrs.... dry.gif dry.gif
Motamaji
post Sep 24 2014, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Sep 24 2014, 11:31 AM)
try use your other spare key to test.
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yaya, i try b4 still the same
Motamaji
post Sep 24 2014, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(Motamaji @ Sep 24 2014, 11:44 AM)
yaya, i try b4 still the same
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r3apers
post Sep 24 2014, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Sep 24 2014, 11:30 AM)
U mana old if compare to me  sad.gif
But ya, movie one I watch before.

If that's the case u sure watch this before.

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That's a good one, never thought someone came out with such drawing haha!
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ohh my tikus sifuuuuuuu.....

QUOTE(Motamaji @ Sep 24 2014, 11:41 AM)
haiz....i ady send to 2 proton service center and acc shop to check. but all can't found the problem.....and asked me to change the whole set alarm
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oic, thn if u staying ard klang valley or KL u can join our TT in Sri Petaling, we can help u check whats the problem if can.. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 24 2014, 11:52 AM

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Darrenkls u mmg old folks mah, coz always attending old folks TT
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post Sep 24 2014, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(Motamaji @ Sep 24 2014, 12:44 PM)
yaya, i try b4 still the same
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then maybe your alarm module crazy ady. then change the alarm module liao. summon expert Shorty 5
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post Sep 24 2014, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(Motamaji @ Sep 24 2014, 10:47 AM)
I have a saga blm for 5 yrs, but recently this few month the alarm of the car gone crazy, every time it set on and sound by itself automatically. At first it sound not so frequently, but after one month whenever I lock my car with alarm it will frequently set on by itself. (it set on by itself many many time in a day). Anyone know what happen or any solution to solve it?    rclxub.gif
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u ada replace any interior/exterior lights with led or not?
if yes check the room light, it may need to be replaced.

(well at least that was my problem)
Motamaji
post Sep 24 2014, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Sep 24 2014, 12:01 PM)
u ada replace any interior/exterior lights with led or not?
if yes check the room light, it may need to be replaced.

(well at least that was my problem)
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nope....din do anything to my car
Motamaji
post Sep 24 2014, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Sep 24 2014, 11:52 AM)
ohh my tikus sifuuuuuuu.....
oic, thn if u staying ard klang valley or KL u can join our TT in Sri Petaling, we can help u check whats the problem if can..  biggrin.gif
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nah...i am from perak...thx for the invite...
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post Sep 24 2014, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Sep 24 2014, 11:40 AM)
Haha! Same goes to Simpson, Sesame Street, Banana In Pajamas, Barney, Power Rangers, Ultraman and etcs.
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not to forget teletubbies laugh.gif

QUOTE(r3apers @ Sep 24 2014, 11:52 AM)
Darrenkls u mmg old folks mah, coz always attending old folks TT
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sounds logic hmm.gif
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post Sep 24 2014, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(wankel @ Sep 24 2014, 08:00 AM)
I'm a new Proton owner and new here so please be gentle, I just had to make a first post sometime.
I don't have a SV but mine's a FLX CVT but I'm curious about the EBD? I think it's the traction control thing that has many names around the world, my FLX has a button on the console and lights on the instruments but I've yet to have any success getting the button to light a lamp, I can't help but feel it doesn't actually exist on mine, but it's not something that's important to me.

What I have noticed about the car already is it sits very nicely on the road, I love the way it steers, probably the Lotus influence, I hope others like it too. Also I can't help but think the CVT *is* the transmission of the future and offers naturally the smooth gear changes other transmissions are constantly trying to improve. The SAT button on mine was used once then retired as what's the point of using a retro setting that I wanted to get away from?
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You mean Stability Control/Traction Control (ESC). Unfortunately our Saga here does not come with stability control so I can't advise you how to trigger it or turn it on/off. I'm pretty sure the ones sold in OZ have the full ABS/EBD/ESC/TC braking suite.

If you will be hanging around, I apologize in advance for our "flowery" language laugh.gif

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post Sep 24 2014, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 24 2014, 12:49 AM)
My unker² still using traditional word, call it 五錢. Sound like ng5 cin4. According to older generation, when they were "shipped" here during the cultural revelation, they have no idea how to value Malayan currency. Hence, they straight named the 50cents coin as a WEIGHT instead of actual currency phase value. For example:
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Interesting eh laugh.gif
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Surprise history lesson laugh.gif

I always though "chian" is a shortened version of 錢銀
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post Sep 24 2014, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(Christopher93 @ Sep 24 2014, 11:04 AM)
Okay thanks

Does his shop still open or Vacation as well?
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In the absense of nestum, the shop will be supervised under Mrs.Toh & banggalah. I suggest u wait a little until he gets back. From my experience, Mrs.Toh price isn't GaGa frenly
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post Sep 24 2014, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(wankel @ Sep 24 2014, 08:00 AM)
I don't have a SV but mine's a FLX CVT but I'm curious about the EBD? I think it's the traction control thing that has many names around the world,
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EBD is electronic brake distribution, nothing to do with traction control or braking modulations.
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post Sep 24 2014, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Sep 24 2014, 09:05 AM)
I made it myself from machining. It's a long stick type. I made it to clear my high tigh support on my recaro as with my short ralliart gear knob when shifting it kacau with the side support so making shifting difficult when I use the bucket seat. On normal days I'm using stock seat so I change swap back to the ralliart. The long stick shift also reduce the distance between steering so better shifting and also can shift more easily with less effort. I'm not using short shift.
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yay another one thinking alike!
almost everyone i know who's modding shifters want it as short as possible laugh.gif
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post Sep 24 2014, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(Christopher93 @ Sep 24 2014, 11:04 AM)
Does his shop still open or Vacation as well?
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got, however you may not be able to get the best deals/service laugh.gif
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post Sep 24 2014, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(wankel @ Sep 24 2014, 10:14 AM)
No worries David, I think brand snobbery or whatever you want to call it is quite universal.

I'm finding a few things irksome already, I'm a geek who loves to replace steam age incandescent lamps with LED but sense Proton are placing hurdles in my path, as to why is a mystery but today my LED 3rd brake light lamp arrived and I'm saddened that Proton wired the centre pin of the 1156 socket as negative, they must have known what I wanted to do. Also the flasher can has the earth and battery terminals transposed to the common variant, another quirk to overcome, later when I get the new lamps (which naturally it seems use the scarcer BAU15S socket) I'll probably find the wiring is again reversed to normal.

I love going around corners in my new plaything. Previous car was a Hyundai Matrix (naturally to be different known as a Lavita here) it was a lovely car which with the 1.8 engine was actually quite frugal, at least on the highway, but handled like a barge in comparison. I haven't used "Daisy" enough for fuel economy testing yet but thus far it's fairly bad, however it's early and much change can and I expect to happen.
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Hi there,

1) The 3rd brake lamp indeed 1156 socket was reversed across all GaGa every since 2008, from your local S16 until now FLX+. You can simply unfold the LED module and reverse the input, and or rewire the socket. HOWEVER! Here comes the problem, 1 of the function in the engine management is to detect voltage abnormal on light bulb's output doh.gif Once you change the socket layout, plot the LED module, it works like a charm and you praise that yourself as a genius, then the CHECK ENGINE indicator(CEL) lite up on your dash because the ECU sense voltage utilization on the 3rd brake light utilize much less current doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif In order to counter this, our friend lhwj & coolkwc had wired up a resistor to the 3rd brake lamp module and managed to cheat the ECU on a regular voltage usage on the 3rd brake lamp.

2) Yes the turn signal lamps are wired reversed. Simply change it back and you'll be able to use LED. The signal blink relay can be exchanged to a common LED use. But the blinking speed will be slower.

Fuel consumption wise, the Campro S4PH is a known fuel monster. However, the CVT is there to help up. Know the wet clutch engagement timing is important as the clutch engagement trigger is the brake pedal. Usually from a standstill, after release your foot from the brake pedal, it take some 1/2 ~ 1seconds until the clutch fully engaged on the flywheel. During/before the engagement time, stepping on the gas pedal is what a Chinese old saying goes "waste gas". If unfamiliar, after release brake pedal, wait for the car to start creeping forward, then gradually increase gas pedal.

By nature, the tall Campro engine is made for high PRM torque. Hence, within 1000~4000rpm is the weakest point of the torque output. Plotong utilize an Air Fuel Module(multiple intake runner) to lengthen the intake runner on lower rpm. Keeping your RPM within 2500rpm range will reduced a lot of unwanted fuel wastage(naturally the IAFM will try to pickup more air/fuel to the engine to counter the low torque within 1000~4000rpm).

Log your fuel ups in http://www.fuelly.com/ to track your petrol consumption. You'll be able to compare your fuel consumption against others, to see whether is there any problem with the car or your right foot laugh.gif
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post Sep 24 2014, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Motamaji @ Sep 24 2014, 10:47 AM)
I have a saga blm for 5 yrs, but recently this few month the alarm of the car gone crazy, every time it set on and sound by itself automatically. At first it sound not so frequently, but after one month whenever I lock my car with alarm it will frequently set on by itself. (it set on by itself many many time in a day). Anyone know what happen or any solution to solve it?    rclxub.gif
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When the alarm triggered, dun go press anything on the remokontol 1st. Walk to your car, observe whether signal light got blink anot xin.

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Look through driver door window, see whether the DOOR NOT CLOSE indicator lite up.
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Then open the rear boot, spray plastic friendly lubricant into the lock module, use screwdriver to fiddle with the lock, push the striker in, then go to driver side pull to release. Go to the back push the striker again, and pull to release. Repeat several times. Shut the boot and try. If not, continue check on all 4 door's striker plate, see whether the black color outter coating is still there.
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Car got older, things get wear & tear. Replacement of striker plate is cheap compare to the alarm module.

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Alarm module faulty

QUOTE(wankel @ Sep 24 2014, 10:56 AM)
Within five minutes of getting my FLX home I'd had the displeasure of discovering it had an alarm, quickly followed by unplugging the noise box under the bonnet. Since then it still decides to quietly lock up and flash lights at whatever whim takes its fancy, I even find that hard to endure but at least happily the car salesman explained one thing to me, how to turn it off. I'm tempted to pull fuses marked alarm but sense that will be a fail.
I too would welcome tales of how to manage the alarm.
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The module was hot wired with the engine management system, also bind with the immobilizer module. Not advisable to defuse it. I'm afraid disabling the alarm module could affect the immobilizer, yet your key weren't able to send key code via the transponder to the immobilizer module. This happen when you plot your key, turn the switch, the car only crank 3 times and refuse to crank anymore. Sounded like "Wuekekekek........" then silent. Get it back to Plotong ask those fellas to check on your behalf to see what is wrong if you're still under warranty. Or you can try my suggestion posted above.
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post Sep 24 2014, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(carrera_gt @ Sep 24 2014, 11:35 AM)
Hahah

thanksss, juz finished VIVA biggrin.gif

anyways, saw ur car waiting at traffic jam right towards UM...pukul 10.30 a.m..

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Uih! Kena tangkap! Heading in to fetch NOX, then we went kennywee92 tumpang Persona, went Jln Pasar buy secret weapon project parts laugh.gif After hentam laksa, nasi kukus than now back home ady nod.gif

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