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cybermaster98
post Dec 2 2014, 02:02 PM

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Is it safe to continue holding KGF and Eastsprings Small Cap? Ive lost 7.3% to date.
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post Dec 2 2014, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 2 2014, 02:02 PM)
Is it safe to continue holding KGF and Eastsprings Small Cap? Ive lost 7.3% to date.
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They are still giving good reward to risk ratio. I am topping up into them.

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post Dec 2 2014, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 2 2014, 02:06 PM)
They are still giving good reward to risk ratio. I am topping up into them.

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What are the latest major share holdings of both funds?
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 2 2014, 02:07 PM)
What are the latest major share holdings of both funds?
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check fund factsheet la...
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post Dec 2 2014, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Dec 2 2014, 02:08 PM)
check fund factsheet la...
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Yar lor.... still want to spoon-feed you lagi ar?

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 2 2014, 02:09 PM)
Yar lor.... still want to spoon-feed you lagi ar?

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But that isnt updated. How about latest changes say in the last month since the stock market started going down?
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post Dec 2 2014, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 2 2014, 02:17 PM)
But that isnt updated. How about latest changes say in the last month since the stock market started going down?
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The latest fact sheet is still 31/10/2014; these documents are not updated daily but rather on a monthly cycle... and I am sure their 30/11/2014 issue is not ready yet. Unless you are the fund-manager, you will never know the day to day holding of the fund.

This brings me to question why you need to know the latest holding? UT is a product designed for us to outsource the trading part to professionals so that we only need a macro view of things. If you are too bog down with micro day to day stuff; then you are not investing, you are trading.

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 2 2014, 03:31 PM)
The latest fact sheet is still 31/10/2014; these documents are not updated daily but rather on a monthly cycle... and I am sure their 30/11/2014 issue is not ready yet. Unless you are the fund-manager, you will never know the day to day holding of the fund.

This brings me to question why you need to know the latest holding? UT is a product designed for us to outsource the trading part to professionals so that we only need a macro view of things. If you are too bog down with micro day to day stuff; then you are not investing, you are trading.

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When u are buying a UT fund, u are buying the fund manager's skills, NOT the market.
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post Dec 2 2014, 03:52 PM

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Hi all,

I just purchased a balanced fund on FSM. To save up for kids education. biggrin.gif Hope it helps. And a little on the aggressive portfolio (TA technology, indian equity n Eastspring MY Focus Fund) Usually these kind of funds needs approx how long to make returns? 3 years minimum?
Another question is that I have also invested in public mutual through an agent. Just a few months later then I found out about FSM. Pub Mut agent is currently doing everything for me including choosing which fund houses to invest in so I don't have much of an insight on how it's doing. Do I deal that directly with my agent to cancel it and then transfer it on my own to FSM? I'm not very good at negotiations and I think the agent will persuade me not to sell it off. Or would it be ok to just leave the fund there for a while? icon_question.gif

Thanks!
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QUOTE(PatrinaY @ Dec 2 2014, 03:52 PM)
Hi all,

I just purchased a balanced fund on FSM. To save up for kids education. biggrin.gif  Hope it helps. And a little on the aggressive portfolio (TA technology, indian equity n Eastspring MY Focus Fund) Usually these kind of funds needs approx how long to make returns? 3 years minimum?
Another question is that I have also invested in public mutual through an agent. Just a few months later then I found out about FSM. Pub Mut agent is currently doing everything for me including choosing which fund houses to invest in so I don't have much of an insight on how it's doing. Do I deal that directly with my agent to cancel it and then transfer it on my own to FSM? I'm not very good at negotiations and I think the agent will persuade me not to sell it off. Or would it be ok to just leave the fund there for a while?  icon_question.gif

Thanks!
Rina
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I hv the same situation just like u. Sell n transfer to fsm from other UT distributor, but the thing is, all fund still in RED (-ve), so i decided to wait till any one of them turn to GREEN(+ve). Hope that will answer ur question.

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QUOTE(PatrinaY @ Dec 2 2014, 03:52 PM)
Hi all,

I just purchased a balanced fund on FSM. To save up for kids education. biggrin.gif  Hope it helps. And a little on the aggressive portfolio (TA technology, indian equity n Eastspring MY Focus Fund) Usually these kind of funds needs approx how long to make returns? 3 years minimum?
Another question is that I have also invested in public mutual through an agent. Just a few months later then I found out about FSM. Pub Mut agent is currently doing everything for me including choosing which fund houses to invest in so I don't have much of an insight on how it's doing. Do I deal that directly with my agent to cancel it and then transfer it on my own to FSM? I'm not very good at negotiations and I think the agent will persuade me not to sell it off. Or would it be ok to just leave the fund there for a while?  icon_question.gif

Thanks!
Rina
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I suggest u talk directly to FSM Client Specialist

Maybe they can offer some good deal (0% fee transfer)
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QUOTE(JAIDK23 @ Dec 2 2014, 05:44 PM)
Welcome to d club  thumbup.gif

I hv the same situation just like u. Sell n transfer to fsm from other UT distributor, but the thing is, all fund still in RED (-ve), so i decided to wait till any one of them turn to GREEN(+ve). Hope that will answer ur question.
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Wondering: is Red/Green in local market determined once a day after the end of trading like USA? For your own R/G are you thinking only per day movement or since you bought them?

I'd think you should just keep them, since already paid the purchase fees. Sell and re-buy means double fees? Or are you using the UTs just like tradable ETF's?
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Wow, today Malaysia started RED but end up GREEN. Anything significant happening today?

Or our money drop a lot so suddenly stocks became cheap with lots of buy in?
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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Dec 2 2014, 05:58 PM)
Wow, today Malaysia started RED but end up GREEN. Anything significant happening today?

Or our money drop a lot so suddenly stocks became cheap with lots of buy in?
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local fund picking up cheap & oversold shares whistling.gif
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Regional markets sentiment?

Asian market closed in green and European market also opens in green to 2-month high.
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QUOTE(oneeleven @ Dec 2 2014, 05:56 PM)
Wondering:  is Red/Green in local market determined once a day after the end of trading like USA? For your own R/G are you thinking only per day movement or since you bought them?

I'd think you should just keep them, since already paid the purchase fees. Sell and re-buy means double fees? Or are you using the UTs just like tradable ETF's?
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Oh, do not get me wrong. I just want to keep all my UT funds in one platform. So the next time i will bear the 1-2% sales chrge by FSM when i top up, as i have the same UT funds in both platform. If i still keep them at the other UT , i need to bear the 5-6% sc. No, im using agent that sells Ut fund from various fund houses (public, phillip, etc).

About your 'wondering'.determine R/G since i bought them. Let say that fund make around 15%, definitely sell them and buy into FSM. Im quite happy with 13% (15%-sales chrge) after buy in into FSM.

And you must be wondering again, why dont i just transfer all the funds from other platform to FSM since i hv the same funds in FSM. Ive asked FSM's client investment specialist, the answer is, at the moment they dont provide transfer-in from "ABC" UT company to FSM.


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My balance fund drop -3.5% in a single day @@'
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post Dec 2 2014, 09:54 PM

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Manulife Investment - India Equity Fund 10.06
TA Global Technology Fund 9.62
RHB-OSK-GS BRIC Equity Fund 9.21
RHB-OSK Leisure, Lifestyle & Luxury Fund 8.59
CIMB-Principal Global Titans Fund 8.22

Modi fund has highest return in 1-month time frame. CIMB GTF also not bad and can make into the list.
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QUOTE(David83 @ Dec 2 2014, 09:54 PM)
| Manulife Investment - India Equity Fund | 10.06 |
TA Global Technology Fund 9.62
RHB-OSK-GS BRIC Equity Fund  9.21
RHB-OSK Leisure, Lifestyle & Luxury Fund 8.59
CIMB-Principal Global Titans Fund 8.22

Modi fund has highest return in 1-month time frame. CIMB GTF also not bad and can make into the list.
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I invested more in Aberdeen Islamic World than in CIMB GLobal Titans...but now they're even already. Jibby lil' brother fund flex.gif
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post Dec 3 2014, 10:54 AM

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jus jumped a little % into KGF

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