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post Sep 4 2014, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 4 2014, 12:49 PM)
Which BRIC fund?
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Eastspring Global Emerging Markets

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 4 2014, 01:16 PM)
Seems strange to have an upside target but then that's just me smile.gif
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It's an absolute return fund, i.e. aims a certain % return regardless of benchmark/index performance.
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post Sep 4 2014, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 4 2014, 01:36 PM)
It's an absolute return fund, i.e. aims a certain % return regardless of benchmark/index performance.
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Doesn't every actively-managed fund aim to make money every year regardless of index performance? 8% average is a kind of low target smile.gif

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post Sep 4 2014, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 4 2014, 01:46 PM)
Isn't every fund that isn't a passive index fund an ARF? smile.gif
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NO.

Most other funds can consider themselves "achieved goal/target" IF they managed to outperform index/benchmark,

E.g.
2012 benchmark -40%, fund -38%
2013 benchmark +1%, fund +1.5%

fund manager can PROUDLY declare they met its goal

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post Sep 4 2014, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 4 2014, 01:53 PM)
NO.

Most other funds can consider themselves "achieved goal/target" IF they managed to outperform index/benchmark,

E.g.
2012 benchmark -40%, fund -38%
2013 benchmark +1%, fund +1.5%

fund manager can PROUDLY declare they met its goal
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But with this fund:

2014 benchmark +30% fund +8%

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fund manager can PROUDLY declare they met its goal


Right? smile.gif

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post Sep 4 2014, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 4 2014, 01:58 PM)
But with this fund:

2014 benchmark +30% fund +8%
Right? smile.gif
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Lazy to entertain u...u should get what I mean
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post Sep 4 2014, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 4 2014, 02:00 PM)
Lazy to entertain u...u should get what I mean
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That's why I think having an upside target is strange smile.gif


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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 4 2014, 02:00 PM)
Lazy to entertain u...u should get what I mean
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similar to entertaining the "chasing higher returns" alpha-generating fund managers' fund
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buy more low, buy less high (VCA, DCA, other methodologies based on value mechanical & "return to mean")
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post Sep 4 2014, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 4 2014, 02:36 PM)
similar to entertaining the "chasing higher returns" alpha-generating fund managers' fund
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buy more low, buy less high (VCA, DCA, other methodologies based on value mechanical & "return to mean")
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tongue.gif
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Works for me smile.gif
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post Sep 4 2014, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Sep 4 2014, 02:38 PM)
Works for me smile.gif
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works for me too. Finally achieve 5 figure return in profit after NAV update (3/9/2014) for the first time rclxm9.gif
KEEP GOING! nod.gif

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post Sep 4 2014, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(laith @ Sep 4 2014, 04:11 PM)
Wow impressive, which fund did you purchase? How long did you hold?
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I have a few of them rally more than 10% in ROI about 1 and half - 2 years time. Thinking to rebalance it or sell it and wait for fruits drop again.
mostly the fund is come from FSM SG. For msia side, I have a few fund with good performance too. mostly is the popular fund that u guys talking here, cannot run wan.
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Convert credit card balance to monthly instalment, charges annualised at IRR of 5.9%

(1) Convert and invest
Or
(2) fully pay off hmm.gif

Wow, Eastspring Investments Global Emerging Markets went up a lot rclxms.gif

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post Sep 4 2014, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 4 2014, 05:10 PM)
Convert credit card balance to monthly instalment, charges annualised at IRR of 5.9%

(1) Convert and invest
Or
(2) fully pay off hmm.gif

Wow, Eastspring Investments Global Emerging Markets went up a lot rclxms.gif
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Yes, also my biggest holding. rclxms.gif but this GEM fund always in roller coaster mode, scary lah...
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QUOTE(yck1987 @ Sep 4 2014, 05:25 PM)
Yes, also my biggest holding. rclxms.gif  but this GEM fund always in roller coaster mode, scary lah...
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But long-term annualised return decent, has been in the range of 7-10%
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post Sep 4 2014, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 4 2014, 05:26 PM)
But long-term annualised return decent, has been in the range of 7-10%
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same here. I believe what's went up must come down.
So invest in lower value is always better than chase the new high.
I already take my next strategy is to move some capital to property for lagi long-term investment.

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QUOTE(yck1987 @ Sep 4 2014, 05:36 PM)
same here. I believe what's went up must come down.
So invest in lower value is always better than chase the new high.
I already take my next strategy is to move some capital to property investment for lagi long-term investment.
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But...ain't property LAGI overvalued? tongue.gif
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Has The Malaysia Small Cap Sector Lost Its Lustre?....September 4, 2014
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http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=4968
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post Sep 4 2014, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 4 2014, 05:37 PM)
But...ain't property LAGI overvalued? tongue.gif
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Do more research with network I believe you can found the right wan that suits you.
If not, you might just wait for the drop where I think is hardly to be happen. But things is no guarentee, if you never take action, you wont know what's happen next.

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post Sep 4 2014, 08:34 PM

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so, no to small cap?


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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 3 2014, 01:22 PM)
Decided to sell of my Public Far East Select Fund.

With that, I have no more holdings with Public Mutual. Yahoo!
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Wow graduated from PM dy. will you enroll any PM fund again in near future?

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