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post Oct 19 2014, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(techie.opinion @ Oct 19 2014, 12:20 PM)
Welkommen 'Dynamite' into my UT portfolio.  rclxms.gif  rclxm9.gif  notworthy.gif
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post Oct 19 2014, 02:13 PM

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few questions have been lingering in my mind:

1. i understand the concept of diversification. however, looking at 5 - 10 yrs performance history, most of the Asia/GEM/Global funds under performed as compared to MY equity funds generally. this got me thinking....should i concentrate my bullets for MY equity funds and diversify within MY funds such as blue chip vs smallcap funds?

2. i already have ponzi fund....should i add another smallcap fund?
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QUOTE(jutamind @ Oct 19 2014, 02:13 PM)
few questions have been lingering in my mind:

1. i understand the concept of diversification. howe2. i already have ponzi fund....should i add anotver, looking at 5 - 10 yrs performance history, most of the Asia/GEM/Global funds under performed as compared to MY equity funds generally. this got me thinking....should i concentrate my bullets for MY equity funds and diversify within MY funds such as blue chip vs smallcap funds?
i guess local fund management are better at picking local stocks?

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Oct 19 2014, 02:13 PM)
few questions have been lingering in my mind:

1. i understand the concept of diversification. however, looking at 5 - 10 yrs performance history, most of the Asia/GEM/Global funds under performed as compared to MY equity funds generally. this got me thinking....should i concentrate my bullets for MY equity funds and diversify within MY funds such as blue chip vs smallcap funds?

2. i already have ponzi fund....should i add another smallcap fund?
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QUOTE(woonsc @ Oct 19 2014, 02:41 PM)
i guess local fund management are better at picking local stocks?
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1. Local fund managers are mostly jaguh kampung.
2. Local stock market is "inefficient", i.e. it's relatively easy to spot value divergence/beat the market, hence local ETFs are not popular

In US/Europe/Japan markets, by the time u think u spotted a "value stock", the market have already spotted it earlier than u and beat u to it, i.e. most if not all stocks are already fairly or even overpriced.

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Oct 19 2014, 02:56 PM
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post Oct 19 2014, 02:59 PM

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i think @yklooi also invested in MY funds only, if i remember correctly. so, @yklooi, why do you invest in MY funds only?


QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 19 2014, 02:55 PM)
1. Local fund managers are mostly jaguh kampung.
2. Local stock market is "inefficient", i.e. it's relatively easy to spot value divergence/beat the market, hence local ETFs are not popular

In US/Europe/Japan markets, by the time u think u spotted a "value stock", the market have already spotted it earlier than u and beat u to it, i.e. most if not all stocks are already fairly or even overpriced.
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post Oct 19 2014, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 19 2014, 02:55 PM)
1. Local fund managers are mostly jaguh kampung.
2. Local stock market is "inefficient", i.e. it's relatively easy to spot value divergence/beat the market, hence local ETFs are not popular

In US/Europe/Japan markets, by the time u think u spotted a "value stock", the market have already spotted it earlier than u and beat u to it, i.e. most if not all stocks are already fairly or even overpriced.
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yeah..
our market is still young and have limited players compared to other matured market..
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QUOTE(woonsc @ Oct 19 2014, 03:01 PM)
yeah..
our market is still young and have limited players compared to other matured market..
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what's jaguh kampung?  unsure.gif
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U try ask xuzen's beloved Lee Sook Yee invest in S&P 500 stocks, see how she will fare? biggrin.gif
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post Oct 19 2014, 03:23 PM

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@pink spider, when you do your asset allocation, for eg 70% equity, 30% fixed income, for the 70% equity portion, do you consider only UT equity funds or both stocks holding and UT equity funds?

if your 70% equity allocation consist of stock and UT equity funds, then how do you allocate for ur UT asset allocations?

This post has been edited by jutamind: Oct 19 2014, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(jutamind @ Oct 19 2014, 03:23 PM)
@pink spider, when you do your asset allocation, for eg 70% equity, 30% fixed income, for the 70% equity portion, do you consider only UT equity funds or both stocks holding and UT equity funds?

if your 70% equity allocation consist of stock and UT equity funds, then how do you allocate for ur UT asset allocations?
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My asset allocation is stocks + UT

I hold ZERO balanced/mixed income fund, thus it makes my asset allocation easier. I hold equity funds (6 of them) RHB-OSK Emerging Markets Bond Fund and Cash Management Fund.

I'm currently 70% stocks+equity funds 30% bond+cash. The cash element in the equity funds are insignificant to be taken account of. I think if u really wanna be anal about it, should be around 65% equities and 35% bond+cash.

On UT side only, I'm 44% equity funds, 42% Cash Management Fund and 14% RHB-OSK EM Bond Fund.

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post Oct 19 2014, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Oct 19 2014, 02:59 PM)
i think @yklooi also invested in MY funds only, if i remember correctly. so, @yklooi, why do you invest in MY funds only?
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well, my July data is ....
38% M'sia
19% US, UK, Eu
51% Asean ( include M'sia)
13% Asean X M'sia
14% North Asia (China, HK, Japan, Korea, Taiwan)

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Oct 19 2014, 03:56 PM)
well, my July data is ....
38% M'sia
19% US, UK, Eu
51% Asean ( include M'sia)
13% Asean X M'sia
14% North Asia (China, HK, Japan, Korea, Taiwan)
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all through FSM MY?
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post Oct 19 2014, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Oct 19 2014, 03:58 PM)
all through FSM MY?
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12% pm
35% FSM
55% Hw
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post Oct 19 2014, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Oct 19 2014, 04:01 PM)
abt
12% pm
35% FSM
55% Hw
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post Oct 19 2014, 04:24 PM

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HW?  hmm.gif
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affinHwang Asset Mgmt....previously hwang investment mgmt.....I opened a/c there.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Oct 19 2014, 04:24 PM)
affinHwang Asset Mgmt....previously hwang investment mgmt.....I opened a/c there.
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nice.. I see.. cause FSM dosent go into those regions specifically.. hard to diversify :C
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QUOTE(woonsc @ Oct 19 2014, 04:34 PM)
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nice.. I see.. cause FSM dosent go into those regions specifically.. hard to diversify :C
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Which region?
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post Oct 19 2014, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Oct 19 2014, 04:40 PM)
Which region?
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UK, Eu, Japan, Korea, Taiwan?
sorry i might be wrong..

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post Oct 19 2014, 05:03 PM

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My Fund %

65% Bolehland blush.gif
10% Global
10% Asia Pas
15% CMF

will put more into Asia Pas and Global while maintaining Bolehland..


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post Oct 19 2014, 09:55 PM

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guys...cimb asian pacific dymanic income fund had just declared new income distribution...suddenly my profit -32% for that fund...

is this normal? if i sell now, i rugi alot, so im just gonna leave it..but is this normal?
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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Oct 19 2014, 09:55 PM)
guys...cimb asian pacific dymanic income fund had just declared new income distribution...suddenly my profit -32% for that fund...

is this normal? if i sell now, i rugi alot, so im just gonna leave it..but is this normal?
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