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 Car Care and Detailing [V4], Caring for your car apprearance

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TSKrisMas
post Nov 20 2014, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(roxx @ Nov 20 2014, 10:07 AM)
May I know how much you bought that rupes master krismas?
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QUOTE(roxx @ Nov 20 2014, 11:01 AM)
Price quoted for Rupes 15 standard package: RM2200++ deluxe package RM2600++
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I got the Rupes only...no package no nothing...just the machine in the box together with backing plate and other basic accessories. Price...errr....add another RM100 to the standard package....and replace the '2' in front with '1'.... tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

QUOTE(Slowpokeking @ Nov 20 2014, 12:36 PM)
Any sifus here can share their experience with coating?
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QUOTE(Slowpokeking @ Nov 20 2014, 01:39 PM)
I don't mind paying one shot as long as the price is decent and get a decent coat as long as they don't require too frequent maintenance like waxing and frequent washing. It'll be best if coat and repel dirt better and easy wash so that owner can do it himself.  laugh.gif

As for washing, seems like most detailers and against getting the car to those regular car wash. So all DIY a?  hmm.gif
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To put it simply...a good quality coating is just like a good quality wax. The only difference is you don't need to reapply every few months or so. The rest of the maintenance parts are the same, and I have to stress, you'd still need to do proper MAINTENANCE, as if you're using normal wax...except for the re-applying part la. Neglect that, you'd be better off not applying anything on.....

Can't comment on the rest of your questions cuz I do everything myself...... rolleyes.gif


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post Nov 21 2014, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Nov 21 2014, 08:46 AM)
ZeroSP krismas MyWifeCar roxx waaa liao eh... You all so ganas suddenly gila on Rupes. I was left behind after few days busy leh.  cry.gif  cry.gif  SIFU'ses!
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Haiya....suddenly somebody ask ma....my Rupes more than (or around) 2 yrs old already.... cool2.gif
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post Nov 28 2014, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(superb999 @ Nov 28 2014, 12:40 PM)
Will it be cheaper to get direct from AG? Saw their promo sales quite interesting with pads included.
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Get from SG....should be, more or less, around RM1700.
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post Nov 28 2014, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(thom_chai @ Nov 28 2014, 04:20 PM)
Any particular supplier that you know of in SG? Autorage?
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EXBRITE Stones Private Limited....official dealer for Flextools Singapore. Already bought twice from them, for a couple of friends. Didn't cost me more than RM1700 even after GST (Singapore).
TSKrisMas
post Dec 2 2014, 08:55 AM

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GEX 270AE is the old model, superseded by the GEX125AE. Except for the shape and ergonomics, not much difference between the two in term of performance. For <RM500, not many choices out there unless you're looking for 'clones', which I think not worth it.
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post Dec 2 2014, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(grenghbok2 @ Dec 2 2014, 10:55 AM)
Guys, wanna ask, how long is the shelf life for ONR? Does it have an 'expiry date' or something?

Considering buying a gallon of ONR but dont wantany of it to go to waste since I wash only once a week, otherwise I'll just buy the small bottle.
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My last gallon is bought quite a few years back....maybe 2 or 3 years back....maybe more. Still looks the same. But haven't used it for quite a while though. Also still have some of the 1st version....orangy/yellowish colour one. Looks fine too.
TSKrisMas
post Dec 3 2014, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(roxx @ Dec 3 2014, 09:43 AM)
In my opinion ERO600 wont give you full result in corrective performance unless we're talking about Flex 3401..  brows.gif

Rotary still the best for corrective performance..

Correct me if i'm wrong..  sweat.gif
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Partially agree....in a way...rotary will be able to do corrections QUICKER. With the right pad and compound, even the Bosch ROB can do corrections....albeit in LONGER TIME. Well....ok....you're right. Better corrective performance with a rotary.... tongue.gif

This post has been edited by KrisMas: Dec 3 2014, 10:01 PM
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post Dec 8 2014, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Dec 8 2014, 03:37 PM)
wash-clay-polish-rainx

I think should be wash-clay-polish-clean-Apply IPA-rain X. Also is your polish meant for windscreen/glass?
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.....leave overnight and buff off next day.....with a damp cloth....
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post Dec 8 2014, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Dec 8 2014, 04:54 PM)
oh, I have this experience of applying it at night. The whole windscreen blur up with dew. I wiped it off again and again.
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Means it's not properly dried yet or ready to be buff off. Had the same experience once too. Got fed up and told myself I'd try/re-do again the next day. Next morning....late morning...it buffed off with ease with only a couple of swipes with a ww drying cloth. Next round I tried again applying in the evening and leave it overnight, able to get better durability and water beads flew off faster too. Been doing it like that ever since.
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post Dec 10 2014, 02:53 PM

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Sorry for the late reply.

Haven't tried (nor heard of) any other quick detailer that can clean as good or better than UQD/M135 other than DDJ Red Mist (original version....not the Tropical version). And talking about solvent, DDJ RM is FLAMABLE!!!

Anyway, if you're looking for something that's a good cleaner (like UQD), you can't really expect it not to have any effect on existing LSP (unless the LSP is a coating)...especially in our kind of dirty environment. I'd rather let the QD remove the contaminated layer of LSP rather than sealing the dirt between it.....
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post Dec 10 2014, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 10 2014, 03:27 PM)
damn really? you tried burning that thing? lol
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Ermm....actually....yes...when I received my 1st bottle a few years back....with a lighter....it.s like having a small flame thrower.... tongue.gif

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Hmmm... I am confused. I thought all QD just clean, that's why I do some spray wax most of the time.

I have a few different QD. Have anyone tried Mothers's Showtime? http://www.mothers.com/02_products/08224.html
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There's normal QD and there's UQD. Normal QD just cleans but UQD also contains 'beading booster'. Doesn't last as long....maybe only a wash or two. But it can do one heck of a cleaning and can even clean those that can't be clean by normal wash. Dirt stain or marks....no problem. I've seen it turned a yellowish white coloured myvi to *almost* its original white....

Oh....the Mother's is more like UQW or OCWax....it's a spray wax and not technically a QD.

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 10 2014, 03:57 PM)
no exp with mother's.

but in case you're not familiar with megs UQD, it has minor LSP too in which if you can recall from previous posts/thread versions, there are people who used UQD as a WOWO after wash to speed up drying due to it's hydrophobic lsp properties (similar to UQW, except UQW is the more "proper method", and cheaper AFAIK)
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UQW is cheaper? Well....maybe cheaper 'per bottle'.....but check out the size/volume.... tongue.gif

QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Dec 10 2014, 05:20 PM)
The M135, do we need to dilute it first??
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Nope. It's RTU (Ready To Use).
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post Dec 17 2014, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Dec 17 2014, 04:59 PM)
krismas finally pulling the trigger for Dodojuice after procrastination for over a year brows.gif
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Huh? *scratch head*
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post Dec 22 2014, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(xdd1987 @ Dec 22 2014, 08:50 PM)
no, it just a mark following by the wiper area
can be polished by using what liquid?
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Errr...windscreen? Glass? If they're 'scratches/wiper trails' I don't think you would be able to polish them off by hand. You'd need some serious machine, pads and compound to remove scratches on glass. But if they're just 'scuff marks' left behind by the wipers, you might just be able to remove them with some glass polish and lots and lots of 'passion' by hand.....
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post Dec 23 2014, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(thom_chai @ Dec 23 2014, 10:33 AM)
Im willing to bet you will sell your rotary once you gotten the Flex since you will not be using it often anymore  tongue.gif
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NOOOO!!!!! If I can only have ONE machine then it'll be a rotary. Flex DA, normal DA, Rupes, Bosch ROB, etc. they have limitations. A rotary can do *almost* everything from *very* heavy compounding to the most delicate finishing. And, pair it with the right backing plate and pads, would be able to reach all those small, intricate and difficult to reach areas/panels.
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post Dec 26 2014, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(roxx @ Dec 26 2014, 10:24 AM)
Master2 sekalian.. Does ultimateshine website legit? The price quite interesting.. Email them and they said so far no issue on delivery or scam as they had been online seller since 2008..

Any master here had an experienced with ultimateshine? Care to share? Thanks
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I know the owner personally. Trustworthy. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 26 2014, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(I_bryan @ Dec 26 2014, 04:14 PM)
Hi, my car interior plastic thingy and leather seat getting dirty over year, which detailing product could get rid of those dirty and stubborn mark? Reason i ask because i dont know which type of detailing best solve my issue. As most i see in hypermarket are for leather seat or interior shine and etc....
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A few drops of dishwashing detergent inside a standard sprayer bottle (1L), a soft bristle brush (shoe brush) for general areas and a soft bristle toothbrush for those difficult to reach spots, a pail of water with a couple of microfibre cloth for rinsing (wipe), a couple more mf cloth for wiping dry, and any branded and good quality interior protectant to dress them up when u've finished cleaning.
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post Dec 31 2014, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(manchin80 @ Dec 30 2014, 03:02 PM)
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Looks nice...very pro looking. Ooops....is that Rupes banner on the wall of what (to me) looks like a detailing centre? sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Jan 4 2015, 07:16 AM

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QUOTE(jedi_dc @ Jan 4 2015, 03:05 AM)
Got my car washed at a detailer using Optimum No-Rinse + Instant detailer on new years eve,

My god.. i'm astounded at the durability of the beading/repelling properties compared to Meguiars Wash&Wax. Immediately after washing with Megs, if it rains while driving, all the dirt will be stuck on the sides of the car even with ultimate liquid wax applied after paint correction.

However, ONR + ID . It has been raining almost everyday here, and yet I only see minor dirt on the sides ( Car still looks clean as ever! Clean enough that I don't see the need to wash it at all) .

I stand corrected as I thought a car shampoo should 'sheet' when applied on the surface which to me signifies lubricity. ONR just seems like cleaning the car with water... yawn.gif

Sifus here, is my experience of ONR + ID wash legit? or is there some other influence here. I'm thinking of picking up ONR + ID soon to replace my finishing Megs W&W.
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OID is good stuff. Want better beading and durability? Add a little bit of OCWax into it.... brows.gif
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post Jan 7 2015, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(TheEvilMan @ Jan 7 2015, 08:28 AM)
I enjoy the claying process, but then i just realise it might cause swirls and marring according to people here and some research on the net.  So i wonder how to keep the car clean without any spot while not causing any swirl, i dun wanna polish the car as much as i can since i know polish is the last resort to renew the paint as it will strip a layer of it during the process.  Constant waxing is what ppl recommend but then waxing also cause swirl?? sad.gif
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How do you keep your car in good running conditions? With PROPER maintenance using PROPER products and PROPER method. Same goes with keeping your car's appearance. Before that, please take note, there is NO WAY to PREVENT swirls and marring from forming, but what we can do (with proper maintenance) is to MINIMIZE them from re-occuring. The risks of causing swirl is there the moment you touch the paintwork with something.

Now, first thing I would advice is to concentrate on your washing and drying, both on the techniques and products, especially the wash mitt/media and drying cloth. These two contribute THE MOST for self-inflicted swirls and marring. You can spend a whole day polishing and waxing your car's paint to perfection and in less than half an hour (send to 'bangla wash') and all your hard work will go down the drain. Remember, when you're washing your car you're actually REMOVING all those contaminant/grit from the surface of the paint and transfering them ONTO the wash mitt. Therefore, most importantly, you DO NOT let that wash mitt with those swirl-inducing-grits touch your car again BEFORE they are released/removed from the wash mitt. Same goes with the drying process, you're WIPING the paint with a drying cloth so you'd need to make sure that you MINIMIZE any chance of dragging any leftover grits across the paintwork. For both, there are quite a variety of methods/techniques...there's actually no right or wrong...just use common sense. The key is STAY CLEAN.

Now, for claying. You don't really need to do it that often if you have a proper and regular maintenance (wash) schedule. I'd say once in six months would be more likely. Just 'feel' the surface of the paint and notice how 'gritty' or çoarse' it feels...just clay when you'd NEED TO and not when you WANT TO. Remember this, claying is for removal of EMBEDDED grits, it's not for removing those dirty stain/runs or the like, from the paint. Also, claying won't remove any paint but it would, like you said, cause clay-induced swirls/marring that might necessitates polishing. Oh...and if you're polishing by hand or a machine with a mild/light polish...don't worry....it'll take lots of rounds of polishing to thin the clear coat to the point where you'd need a repaint. But if you're really OCD about polishing the paint off, then back to my first suggestion, take the 'preventive actions' route and minimize the risk of causing them in the first place.

Waxing cause swirls? Again, WORK CLEAN. Contaminated applicator would cause swirls; waxing a dirty surface would cause swirls; using a contaminated cloth when buffing would cause swirls; etc...etc. Swirls are caused by dragging grits across the surface of the paint. Minimize that and you'd minimize causing them swirls.....

Ragards.
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post Jan 7 2015, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Jan 7 2015, 10:38 AM)
I thinki clay every like 4 months. Since i can find time hehe!!
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I haven't touch a clay bar in over a year already....... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

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