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post Nov 19 2014, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(g88 @ Nov 19 2014, 11:39 AM)
I believed what your challenge is skill/technique issue follow by understand the 'capability' of the product and pad on the paintwork that you working on....

Before existence of DA, painter were using RB and they can deliver fabulous work...

I dunno....to me yes and no DA does help in shorten your detailing time but will that fix your challenge in handling RB ?

Its always good to learn and master the toughest part than the easier/improve one will be subsub sui...just my 2 cents wink.gif
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Thanks master g88 for your comments.

Yes I admit that I'm still in learning phase using RB especially makita. But to be honest I do not have any issue working RB on hard paint (my luck maybe) except for soft paint. Done several readings at AGO and Mike also pointing out that by using rotary only unable to deliver hologram free on the paint. In his thread also pointed out to follow up with DA to remove hologram.

I was so shocked when working out OHP with white polishing pad on vios silver and vios white did created hologram. So I follow up with LC black but still hologram appeared. End up I use DG501 with black pad and hologram disappear. During this process all pads cleaned up well, IPA wipe down to remove oil polishing and check via LED torch but hologram still there.

As a matter of fact that I purely need DA for 1 step polishing so that I do not need to use RB for polishing process. And to be frank not so many review about ultramate or DAS-6 Pro. So I was thinking that spending for DA might help me a lot or is it a waste to buy DA for polishing process (not paint correction)?Thanks again master for your comment. thumbup.gif

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post Nov 19 2014, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Nov 19 2014, 06:03 PM)
Since you mentioned budget is not a problem, by all means go for a Rupes LH15ER. Yes it does steal your Makita work a bit, but then believe or not on harder paint, the Makita still the workhorse to go.
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Wahh master straight go for rupes.. notworthy.gif

On soft paint I was so shocked to see the hologram created. So I look whether I did not flatten the foam pad but I did and still hologram appear. Changed pad also hologram. Then I go rclxub.gif



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post Nov 20 2014, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Nov 19 2014, 09:11 PM)
No master, did not own any machine lol
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Later own rupes then become master ZeroSP again..


QUOTE(KrisMas @ Nov 19 2014, 09:41 PM)
I went for the LHR15E mainly because my elbow just couldn't tolerate the vibration that a DA produced. Before I got the Bigfoot, i've been finishing with a rotary and always wanted to get a DA for those one-step light corrections or 'deep' cleaning maintenance job, which are really more often required to be done as compared to deeper corrections. A one-step light corrections or 'deep cleaning' requires more concentrations and care with a rotary, and some times quite time consuming and, as you said, a little 'slack' and you'd risk getting hologrammes.

When I bought the Bigfoot, I was able to achieve *almost* the same level of light corrections and holo-free finish in lesser time, and also less stressing. I believe a DA can also achieve this cuz I did, once in a while, borrowed one specifically for these 'maintenance' job. But, like I said, what put me off frm purchasing one is its vibration....and oh...the level of noise it created (due to the vibration) on flat, hollow panels. I believe the bigfoot can achieve more cut than a DA or at least, achieve the same cut in a shorter time. Like ZeroSP said, it would be able to 'steal' a little bit of a rotary's job during those times when you'd need that extra little bit of cut but don't want to two-step with a rotary.

Last but not least, remember what I said about the disadvantage of the bigfoot - it cannot take smaller 'spot' pads but a DA can. But for those, i've no problem using the rotary with spot pads, even on soft paints.
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Yes I remember that.. I have spot pads which I can use with makita for small area so shouldn't be any problem. Thanks for the tips.

May I know how much you bought that rupes master krismas? Or if it's a *secret* we can PM2.. thumbup.gif


QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Nov 19 2014, 10:02 PM)
I used Rupes, also got hologram. I think what you should check is the pad and liquid combination.

For me, my pad and liquid combination not that good. In the end, I do another round of compound and polish.
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Thanks master MyWifeCar As stated earlier, I use OHP with white and black pad also created hologram on both vios. Currently on jazz also appear hologram.. Maybe my technique not good enough.. cry.gif

I did use p40 but we know that compound product did created hologram.. I have purchased Menz PF2200 and yet to test it. If Menz able to achieve gloss (cut level I believe so so only) with makita then menz all the way.. icon_idea.gif

QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Nov 20 2014, 08:46 AM)
Revise your compound.
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Thanks master iamsobloodysick, am using OHP with white and black pad created hologram on soft paint (did 2 vios and currently jazz). Try not to use compound as IME it created hologram.. nod.gif
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post Nov 20 2014, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(thom_chai @ Nov 20 2014, 09:59 AM)
For one stepper, I always reach out for the DA with white pad and light cut polish. For tight spots, I use rotary with 3.5" pads.
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Which DA you're using master? I want to know the level of vibration still can be tolerate or not.. sweat.gif
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post Nov 20 2014, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Nov 20 2014, 10:18 AM)
scholl concepts got many good compounds.
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Any seller in Malaysia for this product?
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post Nov 20 2014, 11:01 AM

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Price quoted for Rupes 15 standard package: RM2200++ deluxe package RM2600++

For FUPES (Rupes Replica) : RM890 (not sure got ++ or not)

Ultramate normal la RM880

Hmmmm.. hmm.gif
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post Nov 20 2014, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(thom_chai @ Nov 20 2014, 11:02 AM)
It's the Ultramate that I bought from Osren aka DAS6Pro which is also similar to the Griot's Garage 6" polisher. Surprisingly powerful little DA and very easy to use.
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I scared the vibration made my hand numb if prolong usage.. cry.gif
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post Nov 20 2014, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Nov 20 2014, 11:19 AM)
in sri hartamas
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Thanks.. Going to look see look see there later..

QUOTE(thom_chai @ Nov 20 2014, 11:37 AM)
So far in my experience, still ok la biggrin.gif Last weekend I did a one stepper on Vios. Still can feel my arm after close to 4 hours of DA operation tongue.gif
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Yes. Saw what you have done to the vios silver.. brows.gif brows.gif

QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Nov 20 2014, 02:04 PM)
Rupes, their compounds/polishes are color coded with their pads, should work fine.

Else, Hyper Polish/Compound, Menzerna FG400, SF4500 are all good. 105/205 are fine, just dust a lot for me.
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Meaning we use the pads according to product color? shocking.gif
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post Nov 21 2014, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Nov 20 2014, 09:51 PM)
I got the Rupes only...no package no nothing...just the machine in the box together with backing plate and other basic accessories. Price...errr....add another RM100 to the standard package....and replace the '2' in front with '1'.... tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
To put it simply...a good quality coating is just like a good quality wax. The only difference is you don't need to reapply every few months or so. The rest of the maintenance parts are the same, and I have to stress, you'd still need to do proper MAINTENANCE, as if you're using normal wax...except for the re-applying part la. Neglect that, you'd be better off not applying anything on.....

Can't comment on the rest of your questions cuz I do everything myself...... rolleyes.gif
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Replace '2' with '1'? Nice price la like that.. Why I didn't venture into detailing earlier.. cry.gif cry.gif

QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Nov 21 2014, 08:46 AM)
ZeroSP krismas MyWifeCar roxx waaa liao eh... You all so ganas suddenly gila on Rupes. I was left behind after few days busy leh.  cry.gif  cry.gif  SIFU'ses!
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Me not master la master kalvinkhoo just rambling whether to get Rupes, Ultramate or FUPES.. doh.gif
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post Nov 23 2014, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Nov 21 2014, 10:23 AM)
running to a high-end DA? Why so sudden?
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*Straight to the heart* shocking.gif

Was thinking to get a high end DA so no need pening2.. Unless new better high end coming so I can sell the *not high end DA* anymore to get new one.. sweat.gif
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post Nov 24 2014, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Nov 24 2014, 03:34 PM)
What are the old one?
How to delete this post it post twice when my internet lag.  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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Currently using Makita..

Went to test FUPES, RUPES and FLEX 3401 and all i can say FLEX FTW..!!

The I Saw flex PE14 and asked the owner to test that rotary and I can say that it was far much better than my makita.. hmm.gif



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post Nov 24 2014, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Nov 24 2014, 06:44 PM)
Why is it? but DA usually less powerfull right?
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Sorry may bad.. Flex PE14 is rotary.. Flex 3401 is DA

In terms of weight and vibration wise PE14 better than my makita rotary (this is my personal reference ya). But looking at cutting wise makita still champion..

But yesterday the owner show me using Flex 3401 DA as paint correction and Makita rotary for finishing.. And I can say that the end result made my jaw dropped. shocking.gif

Anyway, to master rotary need more time than DA. And I still learning using rotary but at the same time I need DA.. Hahaha icon_rolleyes.gif


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post Nov 25 2014, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(kalvinkhoo @ Nov 25 2014, 10:14 AM)
sounds interesting. SO when you can come show us some DEMO so we could get poision also...  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Me not master bro kalvinkhoo i think more sifus here can do demo.. sweat.gif

Wait till i get the machine first ya.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 26 2014, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Nov 26 2014, 12:00 PM)
To me yes. Cause somehow now I wouldn't be bothered to compound deep scratches, even lessen it I would be happy. Well, if let's say you really taking care of your car (minus external factor like jealous itchy hand of people), the FLEX is more than powerful to do your annually cleaning and moderate swirls/scratches removal.

P/S: Pad size is a problem though, no spot buffing AFAIK.
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Master have spoken.. notworthy.gif


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post Nov 28 2014, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Nov 28 2014, 02:44 PM)
Get from SG....should be, more or less, around RM1700.
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RM1700.. Machine only or with set master krismas?

QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Nov 28 2014, 05:54 PM)
Ok, source for us lol thumbup.gif
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Agree..!!! thumbup.gif

Eh i thought you want to buy Rupes? tongue.gif

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post Nov 29 2014, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(thom_chai @ Nov 29 2014, 08:52 AM)
Thanks for the info  thumbup.gif Will try to visit them when I do head over to Sg.
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Wahhh master thom_chai can tumpang sekali ah? Hehehe


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post Dec 1 2014, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(thom_chai @ Dec 1 2014, 10:09 AM)
Lol, if I jadi go over then we talk again biggrin.gif
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Lol.. I might be going there next week but don't think have time to go to that place.. cry.gif
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post Dec 3 2014, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(N33d @ Dec 3 2014, 09:36 AM)
Thanks for the recommendation. since it has a 600W motor, i assume it will have more corrective performance compared to the 125ae, am i rite?
where can i get it online? hard to find those things in penang
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In my opinion ERO600 wont give you full result in corrective performance unless we're talking about Flex 3401.. brows.gif

Rotary still the best for corrective performance..

Correct me if i'm wrong.. sweat.gif

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post Dec 3 2014, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Dec 3 2014, 10:00 PM)
Partially agree....in a way...rotary will be able to do corrections QUICKER. With the right pad and compound, even the Bosch ROB can do corrections....albeit in LONGER TIME. Well....ok....you're right. Better corrective performance with a rotary.... tongue.gif
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Thank You master for your clarification tongue.gif ..

Next question.. When is the next DIT? thumbup.gif
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post Dec 5 2014, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Dec 5 2014, 12:55 PM)
Just bought and receive my items. Legitimate web store. Recommended. You can shop without worry.
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What do you bought there?

Sale summore.. drool.gif

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