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post Aug 25 2014, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(RiddleMeThat @ Aug 25 2014, 02:50 PM)
The draw is not shown in public or TV.

Of course it can be fixed.
Anything can happen behind the scenes.

The computer software will weed out all numbers they intend to use as jackpot prize if it's already bought by existing peasants.

Then right before closing time, they will calculate the combo numbers that are unique and have not been bought then it is 'bought' by subsidiary companies /individuals cronies.
Malaysia is the only lottery unlike other countries like US, where we don't publicize the live draw on TV/publicly.
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QUOTE(CcL @ Aug 25 2014, 03:10 PM)
Sports Toto draws are open to public, you can go to 13th floor Berjaya Times Square to witness it on draw day 7-8pm. Just saying.
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not shown on TV bcoz msia is muslim majority,

i think magnum draw also open to public, same lke sport toto
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post Aug 25 2014, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(yeezai @ Aug 25 2014, 03:16 PM)
well here iz diff where as in other countries they publish the winners including their full name and sometimes picture ...
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If here publish full names and pic...nx day all robbers/thiefs will be eyeing them. Not including yet "best" and "close" relatives
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post Aug 25 2014, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(yeezai @ Aug 25 2014, 03:16 PM)
well here iz diff where as in other countries they publish the winners including their full name and sometimes picture ...
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True, but for personal security and safety reasons, they choose not to publish the identities of the winners, let alone photos.
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post Aug 25 2014, 03:24 PM

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errrr.

all 3 toto, magnum and dmc draws are open to public.

they dont need to temper with the results. just need to adjust the pay out rate lesser than the odds of a set of numbers occurring. and they are already winning.
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post Aug 25 2014, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(s1nn3r @ Aug 25 2014, 03:19 PM)
not shown on TV bcoz msia is muslim majority,

i think magnum draw also open to public, same lke sport toto
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it was shown live over tv until late '70s.
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post Aug 25 2014, 03:27 PM

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How is the number draw conducted? Is it by picking from a pile of plastic egg shells or done by a computer system?
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post Aug 25 2014, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(s1nn3r @ Aug 25 2014, 08:19 AM)
not shown on TV bcoz msia is muslim majority,

i think magnum draw also open to public, same lke sport toto
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Is the draw done with real physical balls or with a computer?

If it's the latter, as long as there is no independent auditor to audit the algorithm, it can still be rigged.

4D companies do not need to rig anything to make money, because the numbers are on their side. Just that they may rig it to favor certain parties to exploit tax loopholes etc.

Anyway, lottery companies which are privately owned should not exist. Lotteries should be handled by the state to benefit the country as a form of "idiot" tax.

50% of state lottery income in Germany is channeled to support culture, sports and arts.
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post Aug 25 2014, 03:36 PM

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that is why people bet football, bet badminton, bet everything else.
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post Aug 25 2014, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(s1nn3r @ Aug 25 2014, 03:19 PM)
not shown on TV bcoz msia is muslim majority,

i think magnum draw also open to public, same lke sport toto
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Since when open to public? You can only see the live draw on the web portal using flash player. The draw is conducted behind closed doors.
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post Aug 25 2014, 03:37 PM

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post Aug 25 2014, 03:38 PM

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I thought they draw using balls?

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post Aug 25 2014, 03:40 PM

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Sports Toto draws are done with coloured/numbered ping pong balls. Not computerised.

The only way I can think of to game the system is actually inserting the winning numbers and issuing the ticket AFTER the draw.

Its hard (maybe not impossible) to game the actual number selection process.
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post Aug 25 2014, 03:46 PM

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http://www.magnumit.com/magnum4d/WinnerDoc/J130114E.pdf

What do you guys think of this news. Is the winner the person it claims to be?
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post Aug 25 2014, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Wolger @ Aug 25 2014, 03:38 PM)
I thought they draw using balls?

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Kononnya. Now everything is digitalised as we are living in a digital age.
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post Aug 25 2014, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(s1nn3r @ Aug 25 2014, 03:19 PM)
not shown on TV bcoz msia is muslim majority,

i think magnum draw also open to public, same lke sport toto
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means damacai not using draw?


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post Aug 25 2014, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(nearlee @ Aug 25 2014, 03:51 PM)
means damacai not using draw?


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They claimed to be using draw but most likely they computerise it.
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QUOTE(samteng @ Aug 25 2014, 03:54 PM)
They claimed to be using draw but most likely they computerise it.
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in sg, the draw is shown publicly.


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QUOTE(nearlee @ Aug 25 2014, 03:54 PM)
in sg, the draw is shown publicly.


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Yeap, I heard. More transparent. And Singapore Pools don't have 4D Jackpot. It only has the normal 1st 2nd 3rd prizes with the special/consolation prizes.
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post Aug 25 2014, 03:56 PM

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u sure ?? i got win 1st prize 2 times in 4D few years back but the money amount is not big , around 32k and 100k

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