So I began going gym for the past few days. And I would love to bulk up my body. As I do some research on getting a bigger body, I get to know about compound exercise. Well, deadlift is one of them. I was wondering am I able to deadlift? I saw many people in the gym DOESN'T do deadlift AT ALL. The reason why is the people there even the trainers said its dangerous... So i was wondering should I even try it?


I'm no obese or anything btw...
Height:173cm
weight:65.5

You should, IMO deadlifts and barbell squats / lunges are brilliant compound exercises. When dealing with free weights, anything has risks without proper form and trying to lift more than you can handle. This is one of the videos on deadlifts from my favorite fitness guru Elliott Hulse :



He has other videos on dealifts, corrective training, etc. You should check them out.

Benefits of deadlifts :
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson101.htm

Hope this will convince you to incorporate this awesome exercise into your sets.

ANY exercise is dangerous with BAD form. IMO, deadlift, squat, bench, row, OHP is a must to include in your routine for optimal result.

Always begin with super light weight(even just the bar will do). For the first few weeks of trying, take a video of yourself and ask for opinion. Make sure your form is correct before you proceed to increase the weight too much. Trainers will give you those shi*ty excuse because they don't know how and never tried to deadlift before.

You rarely see people deadlift or squat because it is difficult in term of intensity. You will get super exhausted if you are lifting heavy weight for squat and deadlift. Most of the gym goer prefer to stay at comfort zone and just working upper body.

People doesn't know the benefits and power of deadlift due to misconception of isolate exercise. The most exercise I saw people do in gym is that biceps curl, various kind of curl, whole gym session is about the curl
Squat rack / power rack is always unoccupied which good aka no waiting.

Walking on street is dangerous, driving dangerous too, you don't know when the big badass truck is going to hit you.
Deadlift dangerous? Very yes if it's in bad form, once you get the form right, it's easy. To me, squat is more dangerous and it's been always a challenge to me.

EXACTLY!

This post has been edited by helven: Aug 14 2014, 04:21 PM

Squat Rack always unoccupied? I don't know about other commercial gym but do check out Gorgeous Fitness's squat Curl Rack..

Don't know what they trying to show when this is far more convenience to use..


Anyway, back to the topic. I think BenchPress is more dangerous cause it can land on your neck or face. For deadlift, you can just toss the weight if you can't lift. Just remember no rounded back. That's all.

I was with FxxxnessFirst 2 years ago, indeed there is no squat rack, only Curl Rack

This post has been edited by helven: Aug 14 2014, 04:25 PM

Deadlift is a dangerous exercise..no joke..

I started with 60kg and now almost 120 kg

U can do it, just dont go way beyond what u can carry as u might snap ur back..maintain correct posture and wear the belt if u have too...

Every journey begins with a single step..good luck

Ps want to enquire anything else about gym, i might be able to help you just reply here

This post has been edited by Arvinaaaaa: Aug 14 2014, 04:30 PM

would u guys place deadlift as a leg exercise or back?

did some reading, there's a lot of leg involvement

back exercise though my thighs get sore if i go full on the next day. It's a good compound exercise

It depends on your biomechanics.

me personally placing deadlift for back .. ofcourse i felt it in my glutes , hams and quad ..

Back especially lower back. Uh, I am just at 110 pounds (relative newbies) at deadlift. It is a really tiring exercise. Really feel drain of energy after completing 3 sets of 8 reps.

Makes sense since everyone is different. Thanks

Last time when I still do it, I personally felt it more on my legs than my back.

1. It depends on your body mechanics as what DL said.
2. It depends on the style of the deadlift.

For me, Deadlift is more of a back training for me. But sometimes if my leg is a bit sore, I'll substitute deadlift with heavy rack pull from the knee.

more legs, less back to me

deadlift supposed to be a more push workout, not pull.

if you doing pull, i guess you doing it wrong

This post has been edited by ya u mad: Oct 2 2014, 10:32 PM

Interesting read regarding TS question Read this

Start with push, finish with pull

I implement it in my leg days. Planning to switch it up to back .

You can't really say whether it's a leg or back specifically as everything is involved. Conventional is mostly hamstings and back while Sumo is mostly glutes and legs being more upright and starting lower. The back/lats is mostly just acting isometrically to hold the bar.


TS:

Yes, you should try it. Don't worry about getting injured. Just do it right. Start with the bar only.

Think of the movement as a hip extension. Whether it's conventional or sumo, you start by driving your feet to the floor and squezzing your glutes to extend your hips (hip thrust) once the bar is over the knees. Imagine you're making love to the bar. It is important to keep your hips and hamstring tight (everything has to be tight anywa - head to toe) at the beginning to generate max power. And of course keep your lower back neutral or arched and never rounded. Your hips is the key. Neithe too high nor too low for conventional. Too high and you will be doing something like a stiff-legged deadlift using too much low back (which is not you want ). TOo low and you will lose power as you lose balance - your hips is too far back to have proper leverage (imagine your hips is the fulcrum balancing the weights like that of a see-saw). These are just main points. There are lots of details which you have to read/observe/see how hte pros do it//do your research on your own for best understanding.

Do a lot reading, watching videos, and practice self-experimentation to "feel right" - everyone has differnet limb length/height, etc so your ideal form may be different from you see in videos. If you want to learn to do it the right way, I suggest you watch how good powerlifters do it - Dave Tate, Diesel Crew videos are the better ones. But you have to remember - powerlifters's Bench press, deadlift, squat form/technique is done to maximise weights lifted and not specifically to isolate a certain muscle group for max hyperthropy and the form may be altered due to lifting gears (suits), fat levels, size of the person limiting range of motion etc. So always keep that in mind.

As you progress further and can handle more weight, get a good belt to maximise intra-abdominal pressue to help you lift more. If everyting is tight, injury won't/ is very unlikely to happen. It is suggested that you do low reps instead of high reps on big lifts like this as you'll lose focus and form deteriorates as you fatigue doing hi reps (save the hi reps for accessories - but again this depends on what you want to achieve - strenght increase - mostly central nervous system adaption or size - hyperthrophy). You may want to do Sumo, which is safer (as you're more upright - not taxing the lower back) (and easier - normally ppl can handle more weight on this vs conventional).

This post has been edited by funfree: Oct 5 2014, 02:11 AM

... nice read ... just starting off and hope to get more mass to my body ... guess will need to start playing with bar and small size barbell to get it right in order not to hurt myself ... kind of worry if my back can take it or not, when I watch those power lifter lifting up so heavy at times at the gym ... ...