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miong93
post Jan 22 2015, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(torpor @ Jan 22 2015, 03:19 PM)
oki... understood.. will stick to dell then.  thanks sifus!
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Oh ya forgot to tell you, if you're doing 3D rendering stuff, Quadro graphic card is better.
If Photoshop, normal GTX card is better cause photoshop use more cuba core.
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post Jan 22 2015, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(adibyusoff @ Jan 22 2015, 03:28 PM)
bros. this one okay or not? will have to eat maggie for months for this

ILLEGEAR S7
Details :
Display: 17.3" Full HD Anti-glare Display featuring 72% NTSC Color Gamut (1920 x 1080)
Tune Your Screen: Professional Color Calibration, Guaranteed no dead or partially-lit pixels for first 180 days of purchasing.
Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-4720HQ (6MB L3 Cache, 2.60GHz)
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 980M 4GB GDDR5 with Optimus (Maxwell)
Thermal Compound: IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU & GPU (RECOMMENDED)
RAM: 8GB DDR3L RAM 1600MHz - 1 X 8GB
Storage Drive RAID Options: Non-RAID
Primary Drive: 1TB Seagate Solid State Hybrid Drive
Secondary Drive: None
M.2 SSD RAID Options: Non-RAID
Primary M.2 Solid State Drive: None
Secondary M.2 Solid State Drive: None
Wireless Network Card: Killer™ Wireless-AC 1525 M.2 - WLAN & Bluetooth 4.1 Combo
Operating System: None (Not Recommended for Inexperienced User)
Warranty: ILLEGEAR 3 Year Carry-In Warranty
Accessories: ILLEGEAR Backpack & Velvet Sleeve
Custom Painting Services: None
Keyboard Backlight Color: Custom Keyboard Backlight Color
W.A.S.D. Backlight Color: Same as keyboard backlight color
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Okay gua.. still need to know what's the price.. Get IPS screen and 1 SSD if your budget allow.. and remember.. If you're using SSHD, you can't have 2 m2 SSD in the future, cause if not mistaken the SSHD is a bit more thick, so can't fit in 2 m2 SSD. So if you plan to get 2 SSD and config to RAID, better use 1TB HDD..

Note: m2 SSD is so damn exp.. it's a rich ppl luxury toy.. lol

QUOTE(myway1985 @ Jan 22 2015, 03:34 PM)
Lower end.. not low end...
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Arghh... sorry didn't read clearly sweat.gif
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post Jan 22 2015, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(torpor @ Jan 22 2015, 03:37 PM)
if i need both 3D rendering and photoshop? coz i most probably will need to first render the 3d, then touch up with photoshop.  Plus i saw the suggested system requirement for using Lumion is having at least a GTX 680 graphic card.
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As Prince J stated, Sorry I'm not a pro in this area, so far what I know, it's Quadro card will render 3D faster compared to GTX.

QUOTE(iimcrystal @ Jan 22 2015, 03:39 PM)
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THANK YOU !!!! QuQ

what's the difference between ddr3 vs ddr3l ?

i know L = low voltage - 1.3V

but will there be any significant difference in terms of processing and RAM power ?  rclxub.gif
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IMHO, it won't make much difference. Most laptop is using DDR3L.
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post Jan 22 2015, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(adibyusoff @ Jan 22 2015, 04:57 PM)
Display
With phenomenal picture quality and superior features, our liquid crystal displays offer you a brilliant viewing experience. Featuring LED-backlighting, these displays exhibit superior performance with less power consumption. Besides, the high resolution panel displays images with crisp and great details. Rich, true to life and super vibrant, our Wide Colour Gamut Display is the ultimate must-have for professionals and gamers that are serious about their graphics. No other laptop screen in the world can offer such vibrancy and depth of colour, so for an unparalleled visual experience be sure to put one on the top of your wish list.

17.3" Full HD Anti-glare Display featuring 72% NTSC Color Gamut (1920 x 1080)

Screen configuration only this one available. how laaaa  doh.gif  doh.gif

1TB Seagate Solid State Hybrid Drive not okay kah? i'm thinking to put this one only.

if i put 128GB Plextor 2280 M.2 PCIe Solid State Drive wehhhhh add 500 more. i die. wallet will explode.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Oh.. yours is S7, it maybe can fit in 2 m2 SSD and SSHD.. cause the 1 which doesn't fit I think is S5..
Then no choice lo if just got 1 screen.. S5 got 4 option for Screen display..
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post Jan 23 2015, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Jan 23 2015, 12:48 PM)
need help here, my old dell studio 1555 mobo just got fried after being loyal to me for 6 long years.
can't even boot up at all doh.gif

1. Preferred Brand: ASUS or DELL
2. Budget: 3000-4000
3. Usage:
browsing with 10+ tabs, heavy on plugins esp pdf files, music and all (coz i usually do my research and read a lot of online journal)
also occasional gaming (anything from steam).
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: 14-16"
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Depend on what type of game you play. High demanding game require a decent gpu.. the lowest suggested is 860m..

Acer V Nitro - RM3399
Best bang of buck for 3.5k range.. gtx860m, good cooling, LG IPS Screen fhd

ILLEGEAR Z5 - RM3799 (DOS)
Better cooling than Acer V Nitro, gtx860m, Normal Anti Glare Screen fhd, sub woofer, self modification allowed (won't void warranty as long as you don't damage the component)
If you want to reuse your parts from your Dell Studio, and it's compatible, you can exclude those part from the configuration so it will be cheaper.

These 2 models spec is almost the same. So choose which 1 suits you better. Both are 15.6''
I'm a Z5 owner, the machine built quality is good. and ILLEGEAR service is fast and friendly, second to Dell service.

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post Jan 23 2015, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(zlewe @ Jan 23 2015, 01:25 PM)
Hi sifus, looking to buy a new laptop to replace old Acer aspire 4820tg.

1. Preferred Brand : Acer, Asus, Lenovo
2. Budget : 3K to 4K
3. Usage : college, medium gaming, video/photo editing
4. Preferred laptop/screen size : 15/16in

DOS version preferred because Microsoft has student discount windows 8.1pro only rm215.
Portability is important. (Dont need too portable such as ultrbook.
i7, nvidia dgpu with cuda.
3-5 hours battery life.
Good screen.
Good cooling.

Actually I'm looking at Acer V Nitro 15in and lenovo y50. I like the y50 more and it does have dos version. It has good cooling too. The only problem is the TN screen. I'm comfortable to replace the screen to IPS screen but it doesn't seems that I can buy the replacement screen anywhere in Malaysia.

I'm open to other alternative choices as well. I'll be buying the laptop in late q2. Should I also wait for Intel 5th gen cpu? Thanks in advance to all sifus  smile.gif
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If you're not in hurry as you stated, just wait longer.. AMD will probably announce their new card around March, and it will probably bring down the price of current GTX series a bit..
During that time maybe there's better gc than the 860m, maybe 960m laptop price will be similar so go with latest 1..
And during that time you wanna get your laptop, Broadwell or even Skylake will most probably already been released.
So wait till late q2 or early q3 if you're not in rush

If you want DOS, ILLEGEAR Z5 can be considered also.. It got good after sales service, best cooling, and AHVA IPS screen option available.
My Z5 battery last me 3-5 hours on normal usage.. web surfing etc. (Z5 got 8 cells battery)
Personally don't prefer Lenovo Y50 cause sometime the casing quality is not good.. will go either Acer Nitro or Z5..

This post has been edited by miong93: Jan 23 2015, 01:42 PM
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post Jan 23 2015, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(zlewe @ Jan 23 2015, 04:15 PM)
Yea, I'm not in hurry and would like to wait but... but... but... the implementation of the scary GST which is coming in April scares the hell out of me. cry.gif
Would like to have a Broadwell or Skylake because I want it to be futureproof. (At least 4 years.)
Lets say if I buy a 4000 laptop I have to pay more 240... That's almost the price of a ssd
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Yea.. we also scare GST.. sweat.gif
So we suggest you wait till end or mid March.. if there's still no news about new gpu or reasonable new gpu price, get the 860m gpu laptop.. For Broadwell and Skylake, mostly it will be released after GST.. so don't hope too much on that..
i7 can surely last you 2 years at least, but 4 years is different story. it need to depend on how well you take care your laptop and you requirement overtime.. As time passes, your requirement on software and hardware will increase.. so it's all depend on your requirement overtime.. if it's just normal usage, definitely is sufficient..
So wait till March and see.. if no news, get Z5 for the DOS version.. or Acer V Nitro..

QUOTE(yoyomandroid @ Jan 23 2015, 06:41 PM)
Hi all. My budget for a gaming laptop is strictly rm3500. Could someone recommend me a good brand or listing a few good laptop list... :-) thanks in advance.
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Acer V Nitro..

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post Jan 24 2015, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Jan 24 2015, 11:09 AM)
bro wanna ask,

1. which parts exactly can be reused from my old Dell? I can't think of others except HDD only. The ram sure not compatible as it's DDR2.

2. Talking about parts, does the ASUS G551 or Illegear Z5 comes with extra bay to plonk in a 2nd hdd? thanks notworthy.gif

3. regarding the acer, don't really trust its build reliability and quality  sweat.gif had a bad experience in its previous general laptops
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1. HDD should be fine to be reused.. others maybe not.. your HDD is 2.5'' right ? You can try google whether the wifi card is reusable or not.. or Ask Prince J
2. Z5 only have 1 HDD slot, it doesn't have an optical drive so you can't insert another HDD with caddy bay into it. G551 have optical drive, so you could switch it with a HDD with caddy bay
3. Acer V Nitro is having a very good reputation currently.. A lot of positive review about it.. you can search this forum, you will find a lot complimenting it. It's the best bang of buck for 3.4k gaming laptop

My personal opinion, don't get Asus G551, the price spec ratio is not worth it.. and only 1 heatpipe design is not good.. Acer or Z5 got better cooling compared to Asus.. and Asus service in Msia sucks.
I will only recommend 2 model, Acer V Nitro or Z5..
Both are having top notch cooling, good built quality and price spec ratio..

This post has been edited by miong93: Jan 24 2015, 11:32 AM
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post Jan 25 2015, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(llthim @ Jan 24 2015, 09:47 PM)
Hi, I'm currently looking for 15-17inch laptop.
I've check on the Asus G751JT and the price is quite close to my budget which is below 5.5k but I'm not sure is it good. I heard that Asus service is sucks in MY but how about SG? Any1 in here can give some idea to me on this?
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You may as well check out ILLEGEAR.. They provide better price/spec ratio.. 970m within 5.5k also.. And may provides better cooling..
If you're in SG, can check out Aftershock.. they also offer Clevo based laptop
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post Jan 25 2015, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(llthim @ Jan 25 2015, 12:59 AM)
I mean the aftershock s15...the default is Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7265
Previously I do stay at klang valley but currently mostly outstation to SG so I'm thinking to get the Aftershock unit
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You can always ask for a quotation from Prince J.. Maybe can get cheaper leh.. not sure though..
Intel AC card is enough ad.. No need Killer card lar.. no need so hardcore.. You play a lot online game ? Cause it just benefit online gaming..
Save the $ and go for SSD or RAM..
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post Jan 25 2015, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Jan 25 2015, 01:48 PM)
haha
i heard lot ppl upgrade
so dont think got problem
except u go touch mobo
haha
depends on him
now i on hold cause budget tight
either acer v nitro or aw 15
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Budget tight then you say you want AW15 ==
itu 5k something leh.. the low end AW15 don get it.. i5 baru..
Better ask Dell first before you upgrade SSD lar.. later ppl kena u also kena..
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post Jan 25 2015, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Jan 25 2015, 05:46 PM)
So after some suggestions listed above, I have decided that either illegear z5 or illegear RE15-EVO or aftershock XG15-V3 to be my choices.

Fyi. I'm trying to find a laptop with the following spec, mainly use for workstation with heavy multitasking, occasional gaming like payday2

budget 3-4k
display: 15.6"
cpu: 4710HQ or 4710MQ
gpu: nvidea GTX 850/860/870
ram: 8gb or more
hdd: going to reuse my old dell's 500gb 5400rpm
ssd: 1 unit 128/256gb
dos preferred

Personally prefer illegear Z5 or RE15-EVO.

so my questions
1. what are the difference between z5 and re15-evo?
2. which model do u think will suit my usage more?
3. about warranty: i'm currently in KL, but will be shifting to kuching, so if want to claim, kuching got any retailer for illegear or aftershock?
4. Any of you heard of aftershock XG15-V3? How is it compared to illegear?

many thanks
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Spec wise.. both are almost the same..
Z5 :
1. Have AHVA IPS display option
2. Slightly better CPU (10ghz different sweat.gif )
3. Better GPU vram (4GB)
4. 2 mSata SSD slot
5. Thinner
6. Gaming design
7. ILLEGEAR Custom-made laptop (one of a kind)

RE15-EVO:
1. Have Optical Drive
2. Two 2.5'' slot (can put in 2 HDD or two 2.5'' SSD for RAID, 2.5'' SSD is cheaper than mSata SSD)
3. Clevo based
4. Customizable backlit and laptop body paint
5. 24GB RAM supported (Z5 only support 16GB max)
6. Thicker
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post Jan 26 2015, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Jan 25 2015, 07:05 PM)
What about their Cooling system?
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Z5 is better.. cause it's dual fan and heatpipe/heatsink
It's proven as I'm a Z5 user myself smile.gif

QUOTE(mirage81 @ Jan 26 2015, 06:07 PM)
Hi there guys...

Currently im looking for a gaming laptop, i m kinda bit dilemma on what sort of brand..

now on mind is these 3 laptops
1) Lenovo Y50-70 (around 4k)
2) Acer V15 Nitro (around 3.4k)
3) Aftershock XG15-V3 (around 4.5k)

Which 1 is more better? usually i do playing more FPS game..
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If your budget is 4k, I suggest ILLEGEAR Z5, if not just get Acer V Nitro..
I'm a Z5 user, the cooling is top notch as I mentioned a lot of time.. lol
4gb vram, IPS screen option, light & thin, dual fan, fullhd, sub woofer and fast and efficient after sales service
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post Jan 27 2015, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(mirage81 @ Jan 27 2015, 01:07 PM)
Thanks for all the sifus for suggestion... appreciate.. guess i will go for either Illegear or Aftershock.

1)Illgear Z5 (4.6k) no promo.. :'(
2) Aftershock M-15 (4k) with some promotion upgrade..

Both units specs are the same after customize but the different is GPU GTX860M (Z5) and GTX 850 (M-15)

i'm wondering is there any big different in between both? is it worth to top up RM600 go for GTX 860..
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What config you do to get 4.6k sweat.gif
Default is just 3.8k.. perhaps you get an SSD ? Do you ask for a quotation from Prince J ? pm him to ask for a quotation.
It depends on whether the 850m is DDR3 or DDR5.. If it's DDR3 then IMHO getting 860m is better. Cause the performance improvement is quite big.
850m is entry level while 860m is medium/budget level..

If your budget is stretched to 4.6k+, I suggest you to have a look at the new AW 15, for 4.8k+ you can get a gtx970m.. it's the 2nd best card so far..
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post Jan 27 2015, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(mirage81 @ Jan 27 2015, 01:44 PM)
Just adding some RAM and change SSHD... and some tuning... 
Ya. 850M is DDR3...
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Then 860m is the way to go.. But for 4.7k you do better check out AW15.. it provides a better gpu..
Z5 for RM4.7k IMHO is not so worth lar.. 8gb ram is sufficient for gaming and normal usage.. except you're a hardcore multi tasker, eg: use a lot of VMs simultaneously
If you can bear with the read/write speed, just get a 1TB 7200rpm HDD.. that's what I do..
And ALWAYS pm or email ILLEGEAR for a quotation
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post Jan 27 2015, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(zAciX @ Jan 27 2015, 02:10 PM)
1. Preferred Brand: Dell, Lenovo, (any recommended good brand?)
2. Budget: RM3000-4000
3. Usage: Java Programming, multiple VM for multiple system, Oracle DB, learn multimedia editing
4. Preferred laptop/screen size: 14 inch

*Preferable specs: i7, 16gb RAM
*Priority requirement: Able to run multiple VM smoothly for multiple system(IBM websphere, tomcat, sun server) to run smoothly and good for Java programming

My friend recommended me Dell Inspiron 7447, is this good for my requirements?

Thanks.
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I'm a developer also. What IDE you're using for Java ? Eclipse ? Netbean ? or Android Studio for mobile development ?
IMHO, you no need a very good GPU, but a good CPU.
Latitude with i7 quad core processor is reliable but cost quite a lot..
Lenovo Thinkpad is also an option for you.
Just don't get U type processor if you want to multi task VMs
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post Jan 27 2015, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(zAciX @ Jan 27 2015, 02:31 PM)
Eclipse.
I thought about Latitude, but dell malaysia website does not sell that, where can i get?
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Try email Dell lo.. or go Lowyat or Digital Mall.. most probably you need to pre-order.. as this kind of business grade laptop most seller won't have on hand stock. not mainstream sweat.gif
or try pm myway. But make sure you tell him you want an original unit.
Have you tried thinkpad ?
If you're really doing heavy VMs simultaneously, better get a Desktop, cause even you got 16gb ram, laptop processor may not handle the task very well.. 2.5ghz is not much..

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post Jan 27 2015, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(adibyusoff @ Jan 27 2015, 04:55 PM)
huhuhuhuh. its prince j who told me this.  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  waste storage space.... rugiiiiiii  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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I got no idea why you want to stuff up all your laptop slot doh.gif
More doesn't mean better.. If I'm not mistaken, a 256GB SSD is faster than x2 128SSD in Raid..
It's also quite tricky to have RAID for your OS.. 1 drive fail your whole system OS gone case..
Just get a 1TB HDD and 256 SSD.. be it in 2.5''/mSata/m2 form..
There is no need for a SSHD if you already have a SSD
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post Jan 27 2015, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(Rliffy @ Jan 27 2015, 07:27 PM)
Hey people need some recommendations here before I go lowyat plaza and take a look tomorrow

Preferred brand: None
Budget: Rm5000 to 6000 max
Usage: Mostly gaming
Size: None
Weight: Doesnt matter

Im currently considering Asus G751 JT coz the specs are great for its price and more importantly, reviews say that it runs quiet while gaming. Weight doesnt matter to me as I dont see myself bringing it around often.

Im also looking at msi gaming series and dell alienware series but it looks kinda overpriced for me.

Any other recommendations?
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The new Alienware 15 offer better price.. RM4760 can get gtx970m.. But the HDD is just 5400rpm...
Asus build quality and price is actually very good also.. just that their service is very bad.. So if you can bear the bad reputation of Asus service, and can bear the hassle of going through a hell problematic warranty claiming process, then I think you could go for it.
Else you can check out ILLEGEAR or AFTERSHOCK.. they're using Clevo based laptop which offer a good built quality.
Their price/spec ratio is also very tempting consider those are customize laptop, you can add in stuff yourself w/o voiding warranty as long as you didn't damage the component.

Edit: Lazada now have promotion on G751.. 7 or 8% discount.. and if you use credit card, got more discount.. I saw some one posted a SS.. he bought it, RM4.7k.. quite cheap

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post Jan 27 2015, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(adibyusoff @ Jan 27 2015, 07:59 PM)
256gb ssd m.2 / pcie not in stock. only 128gb m.2 / pcie available. if i choose 128gb rugi as price no diff. if buy 2 x 128gb ssd m.2 rugi sebab raid-0 no use.

1tb sshd is within the package. i don't want to downgrade to 500gb sshd and add more money to buy 256gb ssd.

better what comes with remain, only have to add 256gb ssd.  sad.gif  sad.gif
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........ If you're so picky then sad case lo.. hardly you can find a unit which suits you 100%
IMO, just give up on the SSHD. It's useless once you got SSD. Just get a 1TB 7200rpm HDD. Then get 128 or 256 SSD.. it's already very good as it's pcie slot and not sata 3.
The reason of getting 1TB HDD instead of SSHD is you can have 2 HDD in the future without compromising the spaces.. and still have 2 m2 SSD. Correct me if I'm wrong.
No need to have everything in one go. for now get a HDD and SSD.. in future just add in another HDD and SSD..

If 256gb ssd is not in stock, just wait for them to restock.. if you're not in hurry. if not, just don't get the SSD.. after you got your laptop just go and purchase a SSD from other place and assemble it yourself. or you can ask ILLEGEAR to assemble it for you, if they're good enough.

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