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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Thread V63, such tered. so drama. many popkorn. wow

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ericmaxman
post Jul 30 2014, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Jul 30 2014, 01:19 AM)
Hi agin, Bro... notworthy.gif

Firstly pls confirm sound is due2 "expired"/poor lube of power steering...
If so...
Our Gaga uses ATF as its reco fluid...
Cost?
If DIY, shld b arnd RM20 or so 4fluid (1L bottle) alone with leftover... tongue.gif
Dunno labour charges cos me DIY under own porch lo... blush.gif

Mayb other Bros can enlighten yu in that aspect..?
Gnite...or rather...Good morning. .. icon_rolleyes.gif
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How does power steering fluid relate to ATF?

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post Jul 30 2014, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Jul 29 2014, 09:28 PM)
Hi Everyone...Bros!!  notworthy.gif

IINM actual size of Ori wipers is
Between 16" k 17" for passenger side....
And between 21" & 22" for Driver side...

It was so 4my 1.3 FL Exec...cos me (that time...2011) put the wipers side by side...

Found the Ori was...
Neither 16 nor 17 for Passenger side!!
AND neither 21 nor 22 for Driver side!!  whistling.gif

There's NO such size of 16 1/2" ...also NO 21 1/2" ...  sweat.gif
So...?

Can Sifus in here pls confirm?  tongue.gif
TQVM! cheers.gif

ps. My guess...?
Ori sizes were in cm (metric) but replacements (3rd party) are in inches...?
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QUOTE(uncleben @ Jul 29 2014, 10:38 PM)
iinm is 17/21.. last time i change the seller said its 17/21..
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17/22 is the best.
covers almost the width of your WS leaving approx. 1" +/- gap in the middle.
Been using this size since owning car.
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post Jul 30 2014, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jul 30 2014, 08:24 AM)
How does power steering fluid relate to ATF?

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because sc uses ATF (to be exact, SP3) as PS fluid icon_idea.gif

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post Jul 30 2014, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Jul 30 2014, 08:25 AM)
because sc uses ATF as PS fluid  icon_idea.gif
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zeone
post Jul 30 2014, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jul 30 2014, 08:24 AM)
How does power steering fluid relate to ATF?

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Good morning, Bro... notworthy.gif

Sorry, Bro...
But Proton uses (hv been using since old gen Sagas) ATF as its power steering fluid... rolleyes.gif
IINM it's stated in User Manual...
At least it is...in my Gaga punya...tongue.gif

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post Jul 30 2014, 09:49 AM

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I never change before but is brwon and is time for me to change the PS fluid. Guess i got to head to the workshop then.
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post Jul 30 2014, 10:30 AM

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Hi all! Anyone can recommend a good Proton authorize service centre around Old klang road or around UPM serdang? Need to send my car for service.
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post Jul 30 2014, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 30 2014, 02:55 AM)
assuming no mechanical wear/failures, give it a try on prestone power steering fluid (transparent and very low viscosity)
http://prestone.com/enmx/node/442

label mentions stop squealing and it does the job for me

can be bought via ace hardware or eneos @ around rm20+ for 946 ml
just about/slightly more expensive (few ringgit) than ATF

most cars would use less than a litter however the spare you could use it as a flush if you wish to (or if it still squeals)

=edit=
consider jacking up the car and turning the car with power steering (engine) off to see if it's really from the power steering and not other wear/mechanical failures.
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NO! you can't check for the sound of PS problem with the wheels off the ground as the steering arm is at an angle and there's no load on the steering system it is the wrong method. you should diagnose the PS system with the engine on and wheels on the ground. There's very limited problems that can happen with a PS system. Since it only has a Pump, steering cylinder, steering arm, AUX belt and steering rack mount.

Need to know the squeaking sound happens at what position of the steering, idling time?..etc

This post has been edited by TitanRev: Jul 30 2014, 10:39 AM
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post Jul 30 2014, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Jul 30 2014, 10:38 AM)
NO! you can't check for the sound of PS problem with the wheels off the ground as the steering arm is at an angle and there's no load on the steering system it is the wrong method. you should diagnose the PS system with the engine on and wheels on the ground. There's very limited problems that can happen with a PS system. Since it only has a Pump, steering cylinder, steering arm, AUX belt and steering rack mount.

Need to know the squeaking sound happens at what position of the steering, idling time?..etc
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agreed, however i am pointing this out to isolate the PS system as the issue may not be the power steering at all.
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post Jul 30 2014, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Jul 30 2014, 09:49 AM)
I never change before but is brwon and is time for me to change the PS fluid. Guess i got to head to the workshop then.
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jul 30 2014, 08:45 AM)
Good morning, Bro...  notworthy.gif

Sorry, Bro...
But Proton uses (hv been using since old gen Sagas) ATF as its power steering fluid... rolleyes.gif
IINM it's stated in User Manual...
At least it is...in my Gaga punya...tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jul 30 2014, 12:04 AM)
Hi Bro...  notworthy.gif

There's no fixed lifespan 4batt3 IINM...
My Ramcar batt lasted 3+ yrs & cld still start every morning...even at time me replaced it cos near CNY... icon_rolleyes.gif
Voltage tested under load then was 10V+...

More on luck, usage & maintenance (as in maintaining a full charge as much as possible)...

If Ori Ramcar batt3 (not a dry batt), try chking if it's low on fluid...
If so, top up & recharge. Then go for a LOAD test.

AFAIK, car electrical sys will hv leakage sumwhere...also current is consumed even if car is not used...eg by clock?
And yup, there's usage (led) & possible leakage by VS... tongue.gif
So 1 week of standing cld hv drained the batt or discharged it/left it w/o enuf juice 2crank engine...

Cld b due 2shortcircuiting of plates (bent?) being oledi 2 yrs old?
Dunno really...

Best wishes...  smile.gif
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ya lo but cannot blame vs only right..thanks for the tips bro..i ady tell my bro to refill the battery ony later baru change new one..haha
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post Jul 30 2014, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 30 2014, 11:11 AM)
agreed, however i am pointing this out to isolate the PS system as the issue may not be the power steering at all.
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Regardless of what the problem is, jacking a car up with it's tires off the ground is not the correct way to diagnose a sound problem because it does not have load on the suspension, steering and other things..etc. Unless you put the car on a ramp lift. Where the car still has all 4 tires under load. As you know our cars don't float on air...
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QUOTE(unknowngenius @ Jul 29 2014, 11:30 PM)
my blm steering got chit chit sound when turning

is it time to change the fluid?
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What's ur car mileage? Last PS fluid change mileage?
Check your PS tank reservoir level? still have how much PS fluid inside?
Colour of the PS fluid. (Open the cap and see if it's dark brown colour)
Can you hear a squealing sound when you full lock your steering? be it L or R.


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post Jul 30 2014, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(unknowngenius @ Jul 29 2014, 11:30 PM)
my blm steering got chit chit sound when turning

is it time to change the fluid?
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My car also got very slow sound like urs..
i ask SC they say its nothing to worry coz thats just the rubber squishing..
dunno can believe him or not..
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post Jul 30 2014, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Jul 30 2014, 12:57 PM)
Regardless of what the problem is, jacking a car up with it's tires off the ground is not the correct way to diagnose a sound problem because it does not have load on the suspension, steering and other things..etc. Unless you put the car on a ramp lift. Where the car still has all 4 tires under load. As you know our cars don't float on air...
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my suggestion is based on isolating ps being an issue, if the wheels are planted, without power steering running for a ps equipped car it can be difficult to turn depending on what car you're driving.

but of course if you've confirmed that ps/ps pump is the issue, then your method would be the only method :thumb:
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Jul 30 2014, 12:57 PM)
Regardless of what the problem is, jacking a car up with it's tires off the ground is not the correct way to diagnose a sound problem because it does not have load on the suspension, steering and other things..etc. Unless you put the car on a ramp lift. Where the car still has all 4 tires under load. As you know our cars don't float on air...
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Bro, u know u r gonna waste lots of energy and time explaining right? cool.gif

This post has been edited by 2JayZ: Jul 30 2014, 02:10 PM
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post Jul 30 2014, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Jul 30 2014, 02:10 PM)
Bro, u know u r gonna waste lots of energy and time explaining right? cool.gif
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Hi Bro... notworthy.gif

Dun think Bro TitanRev's explanation wld go 2waste lo...not completely anyway...

Feel such clarifications wld not b purely juz in answer 2a poster's query & 4his sole benefit only...
But generally & indirectly, any such info / diagnostics, posted in an open forum, wld b of use 2any other Gaga user...who knows...mayb even users of other car makes...? tongue.gif

Practical experienced knowledge is definitely no loss but invaluable in adding 2one's education... thumbup.gif
"Sharing is Caring"
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post Jul 30 2014, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Jul 30 2014, 03:28 PM)
Hi Bro...  notworthy.gif

Dun think Bro TitanRev's explanation wld go 2waste lo...not completely anyway...

Feel such clarifications wld not b purely juz in answer 2a poster's query & 4his sole benefit only...
But generally & indirectly, any such info / diagnostics, posted in an open forum, wld b of use 2any other Gaga user...who knows...mayb even users of other car makes...? tongue.gif

Practical experienced knowledge is definitely no loss but invaluable in adding 2one's education... thumbup.gif
"Sharing is Caring"
cheers.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Yes, TR's explanation most of the time won't go to waste. If u do come TT, I shall tell u why I say that by then.
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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Jul 30 2014, 03:44 PM)
Yes, TR's explanation most of the time won't go to waste. If u do come TT, I shall tell u why I say that by then. 
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u mau people drive down 500km to TT kah?
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