Hye there, im googling around and cannot find, is dsg gearbox fixed after change to mineral oil? Is there any dsg breakdown after change the oil?
DSG problem fixed? ?, After change to mineral oil?
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Mine... I'm waiting to change the clutch...
My problem came right after they made the mineral oil + settings change... damn... last week happened once where my car feels like almost stopped and go... that's the worst so far... Normally it judders... but still going fine... so far no breakdown... but the feeling is uncomfortable...  This post has been edited by thankyou: Jul 4 2014, 02:48 PM |
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QUOTE(thankyou @ Jul 4 2014, 02:47 PM) Mine... I'm waiting to change the clutch... Tq for ur reply.. how about the new car that manufacture in 2014. They already put mineral oil right in the gb? Do u know any of 2014 model has the dsg issue?My problem came right after they made the mineral oil + settings change... damn... last week happened once where my car feels like almost stopped and go... that's the worst so far... Normally it judders... but still going fine... so far no breakdown... but the feeling is uncomfortable...  This post has been edited by mozact89: Jul 4 2014, 03:03 PM |
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 4 2014, 02:44 PM) Hye there, im googling around and cannot find, is dsg gearbox fixed after change to mineral oil? Is there any dsg breakdown after change the oil? Apparently some silly excuse/solution made up by VW, otherwise they will go bankrupt to replace all the DSG gearbox..or worse, replace everyone's car with a Saga...wait, maybe 2nd option is cheaper than replacing gearbox.... http://autonews.gasgoo.com/commentary/anal...-t-131212.shtml |
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I'm not surprise if cooking oil could solves the DSG problems.
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Last time people drive Volkswagen they ask you about your success. Now they will ask you about your gearbox.
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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Jul 4 2014, 04:47 PM) I'm not surprise if cooking oil could solves the DSG problems. Later if mineral oil cannot, then say minyak jagung, kelapa sawit , soya etc. |
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My sister and her husband considered VW but ultimately rejected it due to the infamous DSG issue and aftersales.
The irony is, they were considering the CKD polo hatch, which is using the Aisin slushbox. After I informed her that the CKD polo is not affected, the poor reputation of their aftersales ultimately put her off (unlike me, she haz fesbuk). See, even a non car-person like her knows about VW's woes. She ended up booking a new Honda City. This post has been edited by dares: Jul 4 2014, 06:44 PM |
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QUOTE(gunsnroses @ Jul 4 2014, 06:17 PM) Last time people drive Volkswagen they ask you about your success. Now they will ask you about your gearbox. tats a good one... |
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jul 4 2014, 06:34 PM) Later if mineral oil cannot, then say minyak jagung, kelapa sawit , soya etc. Toyota salesman, is it?I think it's too early to tell if mineral oil has fixed the problem, if they have internally changed the gearbox to fix the problem but are afraid to tell because then owners will ask for a recall, or whatever else could be. It will take a few years before we really know if things have improved, and how much. |
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Olive oil extra virgin.
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But from what I read on the net, some hv no issue with the gearbox but some hv major issue that need to replace the gearbox.. thats show that the gearbox is really unpredictable..
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I really love their engine.. (already book jetta.) Even though I heard many problem with the gearbox.. but some of my friend doesnt hv any problem with dsg...
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 4 2014, 07:15 PM) I really love their engine.. (already book jetta.) Even though I heard many problem with the gearbox.. but some of my friend doesnt hv any problem with dsg... got problem also won't tell u la |
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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Jul 4 2014, 07:20 PM) 1 satisfied owner vs how many disgruntled ownera? Statistic speaks yah.... |
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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Jul 4 2014, 07:16 PM) got problem also won't tell u la Yah...later how to sell to "friend"...after car sold, became "ex-friend"... |
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jul 4 2014, 07:54 PM) Yah...later how to sell to "friend"...after car sold, became "ex-friend"... if my new car got problem , i also won't keep complaint it with my friend , ofcourse will say how good how good of this car , and secretly save more money and upgrade better one . human natural haha |
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 4 2014, 07:14 PM) But from what I read on the net, some hv no issue with the gearbox but some hv major issue that need to replace the gearbox.. thats show that the gearbox is really unpredictable.. I think the DSG problem is largely depend on the way you drive, the road condition and weather. If you like to accerelate your car from stand still quickly, and most of the time you driving this way, then good luck to you. The other problem is traffic jam, if you use to drive on heavy jam condition, then your DSG will also greeting into trouble after 2-3years. If the the weather is pretty hot and humid, then your DSG will get into trouble more quickly. |
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jul 4 2014, 07:52 PM) 1 satisfied owner vs how many disgruntled ownera? Statistic speaks yah.... That article is just for reference lar... I'm not saying VW is reliable...  |
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My loan approve edy.. hope my car dont hv dsg problem... huhu
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 4 2014, 09:26 PM) My loan approve edy.. hope my car dont hv dsg problem... huhu You should hope that your car don't have engine problem. Not only DSG, 1.4 TSI also a bit of risk. Really nice to drive but.....hope for the best! |
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 4 2014, 02:44 PM) Hye there, im googling around and cannot find, is dsg gearbox fixed after change to mineral oil? Is there any dsg breakdown after change the oil? Mineral oil doesn't fix the DSG gearbox. It is the localized material used in the DSG that solved the VW DSG gearbox. Based on technical department info, they already solved the DSG defective issue in earlier batches VW with localized material suited for our hot & humid climate.You can always check with real owners at the SC for few days to few weeks to even few months survey whether any more DSG failure issue after the recall and localized CKD units. Never trust forum 100% as those who came here could be competitor marketing staff or some CIKU that relies on hearsay spread by competitor. kvn4000 liked this post
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Don't see how mineral oil would solve it lol. Maybe use something like Pentosin FFL-4 which is a lot more heat resistant. Or by the very least Motul DCTF which is a very modern formula.
Some people recommend using Castrol's Transmax Dual, but I believe that stuff prefers Getrag built boxes rather than Borg derived ones like the DSG. |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 4 2014, 09:54 PM) Mineral oil doesn't fix the DSG gearbox. It is the localized material used in the DSG that solved the VW DSG gearbox. Based on technical department info, they already solved the DSG defective issue in earlier batches VW with localized material suited for our hot & humid climate. Agree with u bro...You can always check with real owners at the SC for few days to few weeks to even few months survey whether any more DSG failure issue after the recall and localized CKD units. Never trust forum 100% as those who came here could be competitor marketing staff or some CIKU that relies on hearsay spread by competitor. |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 4 2014, 09:54 PM) Never trust forum 100% as those who came here could be competitor marketing staff or some CIKU that relies on hearsay spread by competitor. Then why should we be trusting you...?  |
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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Jul 4 2014, 11:17 PM) Then why should we be trusting you...? But one of the reason I choose jetta compare to sylphy and altis because of the VW SA.. the SA convince me well.. I keep asking about dsg problem and he can answer all my question well.. The jetta seat is very comfortable compare to sylphy.. the engine performance is very good compare to others which r 1.8 and 2.0cc car.. But I want to know more about the problem. the info i got from net is not really satisfy. |
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 4 2014, 11:25 PM) But one of the reason I choose jetta compare to sylphy and altis because of the VW SA.. the SA convince me well.. I keep asking about dsg problem and he can answer all my question well.. what was the SA's answer to DSG problemThe jetta seat is very comfortable compare to sylphy.. the engine performance is very good compare to others which r 1.8 and 2.0cc car.. But I want to know more about the problem. the info i got from net is not really satisfy. |
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 4 2014, 11:25 PM) But one of the reason I choose jetta compare to sylphy and altis because of the VW SA.. the SA convince me well.. I keep asking about dsg problem and he can answer all my question well.. What did you ask and what did he answer?The jetta seat is very comfortable compare to sylphy.. the engine performance is very good compare to others which r 1.8 and 2.0cc car.. But I want to know more about the problem. the info i got from net is not really satisfy. When I ask VW SA about DSG issue, he only answer me that they have very good roadside assist service  |
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QUOTE(myeddylim @ Jul 4 2014, 11:26 PM) what was the SA's answer to DSG problem QUOTE(dares @ Jul 4 2014, 11:27 PM) What did you ask and what did he answer? Dsg and conti car is not same like japanese car.. I agree with him.. from what he said, the car that manufacture in 2014 hs less problem.. he admit that vw service is quite slow. But they try to improve their service.. about the dsg problem, after their rectification to change mineral oil and upgrade the software (set the car power less), the problem seems lesser.When I ask VW SA about DSG issue, he only answer me that they have very good roadside assist service Im asking him about jerking at g1 n g2, he told me that is the characteristics of dsg gearbox.. I also forgot what he said. But he said actually dsg just like manual gearbox. But at high speed, the jerking gone.. He also said, not all pandai jaga kereta.. some people just lanyak pakai.. some people very details which cannot here some weird sound in his car.. Banyak lagi the SA told me.. im at the VW MHZ Autohaus I think for about 3 hours just talk2 n test drive... Lastly, he said, just book laa.. pay rm500, if cancel, can refund.. I cannot tahan, just book liao.. haha |
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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Jul 4 2014, 11:17 PM) Then why should we be trusting you...? You don't have to trust me. I didn't tell mozact89 to trust me. In fact, I encourage him to find out the actual facts personally without being influenced by any person nor party. Obviously never trust SA and marketing staff neither. |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 5 2014, 12:00 AM) You don't have to trust me. I didn't tell mozact89 to trust me. In fact, I encourage him to find out the actual facts personally without being influenced by any person nor party. Obviously never trust SA and marketing staff neither. Yaa. I didn't say I believe the SA. But I like how he treat customer.. not like toyota SA. My face looks like budak2, he thought I xda duit kot nak beli altis.. I really mad with toyota SA at jalan pahang.. after test drive, trus belah. |
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 4 2014, 11:25 PM) But one of the reason I choose jetta compare to sylphy and altis because of the VW SA.. the SA convince me well.. I keep asking about dsg problem and he can answer all my question well.. Told you already; you should hope that your car don't have engine problem. tongue.gif The jetta seat is very comfortable compare to sylphy.. the engine performance is very good compare to others which r 1.8 and 2.0cc car.. But I want to know more about the problem. the info i got from net is not really satisfy. Not only DSG, 1.4 TSI also a bit of risk. Really nice to drive but.....hope for the best! |
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Hmm... similarly let's say if Proton were to mention their power windows depends on how the you use it. If you used it abnormally of course got problem; and said the problem was solved with WD40 spray. Can believe?
For Proton you hope no power windows problem; for VW you hope no DSG and TSI issue. |
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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Jul 5 2014, 12:48 PM) Hmm... similarly let's say if Proton were to mention their power windows depends on how the you use it. If you used it abnormally of course got problem; and said the problem was solved with WD40 spray. Can believe? Power window doesnt effect ur car to breakdown bro..For Proton you hope no power windows problem; for VW you hope no DSG and TSI issue. |
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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Jul 5 2014, 12:48 PM) Hmm... similarly let's say if Proton were to mention their power windows depends on how the you use it. If you used it abnormally of course got problem; and said the problem was solved with WD40 spray. Can believe? Power window switch replacement cheap only...Rm200 to Rm300 kawtim....gearbox?For Proton you hope no power windows problem; for VW you hope no DSG and TSI issue. Even a replacement will not fix since the problem is in the design. And yes..I have replaced a power window switxh for my Savvy once in 7 years..no big deal. AFAIK, Proton never mentioned WD or minyak jagung will fix power windows... At least, no such BS...lol This post has been edited by Matrix: Jul 5 2014, 02:52 PM |
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 5 2014, 01:13 PM) Power window doesnt effect ur car to breakdown bro.. imagine ur window kenot come up while storm is coming |
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DSG is a more advanced manual gearbox, yes. It has 2 sets of gears, 1, 3, 5, 7 and 2, 4, 6. It can switch between those, so while you're in 1st the other gearbox will select 2nd. When it goes to second the first gearbox will go to 3rd. It will try to predict what is next.
VW tried to explain why mineral oil is supposed to help. You can try to find that explanation on the net. |
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jul 5 2014, 03:14 PM) DSG is a more advanced manual gearbox, yes. It has 2 sets of gears, 1, 3, 5, 7 and 2, 4, 6. It can switch between those, so while you're in 1st the other gearbox will select 2nd. When it goes to second the first gearbox will go to 3rd. It will try to predict what is next. The SA teach me a bit about the GB. hope with the mineral oil, the problem can be solved.VW tried to explain why mineral oil is supposed to help. You can try to find that explanation on the net. |
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Still wondering why a neighbour changed his 1 yr old passat to a accord recently. Too much problems?
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QUOTE(nxtpg @ Jul 5 2014, 07:42 PM) Still wondering why a neighbour changed his 1 yr old passat to a accord recently. Too much problems? 1 year passat...rugi kaw kaw...probably 30k gone at least. |
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jul 5 2014, 07:45 PM) 1 year passat...rugi kaw kaw...probably 30k gone at least. Ya.. maybe he cant tahan the problem?.... |
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QUOTE(nxtpg @ Jul 5 2014, 08:09 PM) Ya.. maybe he cant tahan the problem?.... Why u dont ask him.. |
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QUOTE(zigen520 @ Jul 5 2014, 02:47 PM) imagine ur window kenot come up while storm is coming |
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 5 2014, 12:05 AM) Yaa. I didn't say I believe the SA. But I like how he treat customer.. not like toyota SA. My face looks like budak2, he thought I xda duit kot nak beli altis.. I really mad with toyota SA at jalan pahang.. after test drive, trus belah. Don't forget to conduct your own research and survey on the technical to confirm that the DSG issue has been fixed personally. Technical staffs don't mind nor bother if you check with owners, technical staff and look around for any car being towed to SC. Instead, they might welcome you to do so as they want more people to know the facts. That Toyota SA still dare to be bad to customers? They are hungry for sales nowadays to stiff competition from Korean, conti and other Japanese brands nowadays. Even Honta SA that used to be biadap & kurang ajar now become humble YES man. That could also mean that Toyota sales is still better, that's why that attitude? |
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QUOTE(nxtpg @ Jul 5 2014, 07:42 PM) Still wondering why a neighbour changed his 1 yr old passat to a accord recently. Too much problems? Your neighbour, real or made up imaginative person? If you said he switched to Mazda, Toyota or Hyundai/Kia, then it could be that he wanted some thing with cheaper maintenance. Switching to Accord means going for worse problem. |
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 5 2014, 01:13 PM) Power window doesnt effect ur car to breakdown bro.. Reminds me 10++ years ago midnight my wira power window breakdown... i have to stick plastic to cover it and bring back all valueable thing so I can park at open roof carpark over night... curse them to die lol |
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After drive my jetta for 2 weeks.. i feel very satisfied with the car.. evethough there r some minor issue with the car. But the powerful of the 1.4 twincharged engine make me feel good.. very easy to get 200kmh.. hope the dsg problem is fixed already..
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 16 2014, 09:00 PM) After drive my jetta for 2 weeks.. i feel very satisfied with the car.. evethough there r some minor issue with the car. But the powerful of the 1.4 twincharged engine make me feel good.. very easy to get 200kmh.. hope the dsg problem is fixed already.. WOW! Congratz mozact89. Do share more as I'm also interested in Jetta Hope u can give more details about the DSG gearbox. What to expect, what is normal and etc. How was the FC? Comfy? |
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QUOTE(Janieeee @ Jul 17 2014, 11:58 AM) 200kmh Plus highway lor.. right now not feel any juddering on the gearbox.. which highway wor. DSG got feel like juddering or not?Attached thumbnail(s) 
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QUOTE(jezz12 @ Jul 17 2014, 11:16 AM) WOW! Congratz mozact89. Do share more as I'm also interested in Jetta 1. Hv to understand dsg chracteristic works like a manual gearbox. So will feel manual car on gear 1 to 2.. Hope u can give more details about the DSG gearbox. What to expect, what is normal and etc. How was the FC? Comfy? 2. Fc depends on ur foot la.. i set to autocruise 110kmh.. the fc keep around 14.4km/l.. if u always tekan sure fc will be bad. 3. Comfy? Yes.. i feel comfortable enough. Previously my choice was sylphy. But sylphy rear seat to condong.. jetta feel more like conti car with simple interface on the dashboard.. 4. Everything is electronic. Dont pandai2 wiring lor.. |
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 17 2014, 05:54 PM) 1. Hv to understand dsg chracteristic works like a manual gearbox. So will feel manual car on gear 1 to 2.. new car already whack! not bad!2. Fc depends on ur foot la.. i set to autocruise 110kmh.. the fc keep around 14.4km/l.. if u always tekan sure fc will be bad. 3. Comfy? Yes.. i feel comfortable enough. Previously my choice was sylphy. But sylphy rear seat to condong.. jetta feel more like conti car with simple interface on the dashboard.. 4. Everything is electronic. Dont pandai2 wiring lor.. how long did it took you to reach 200? |
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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Jul 17 2014, 06:16 PM) new car already whack! not bad! Vw dont hv 1k service, 5k service.. straight 15k service.. quite fast to reach 200how long did it took you to reach 200? |
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QUOTE(Janieeee @ Jul 16 2014, 03:04 PM) As far as I know it pretty much solved the problem. The synthetic oil was killing the mechatronics and with the mineral oil, it basically solved the problem quite successfully. 8th generation Honta x Guna Accord 2009 has problem with ABS jammed brake, gearbox slippage, can't get into reverse and shift forward 2nd or 3rd gear for some time. Bearing also makes noise wooo woo. Honta is just a vase, handle with care with less use only. Use too much on our road & traffic would end up breaking some parts. Better buy conti than Honta.May I ask which generation of Honda Accord are you referring to because AFAIK my brother drives the 8th generation for 4 years now and not a single problem arise |
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 27 2014, 12:17 PM) 8th generation Honta x Guna Accord 2009 has problem with ABS jammed brake, gearbox slippage, can't get into reverse and shift forward 2nd or 3rd gear for some time. Bearing also makes noise wooo woo. Honta is just a vase, handle with care with less use only. Use too much on our road & traffic would end up breaking some parts. Better buy conti than Honta. Conti car saleman detected. Proof is everywhere conti vw is not reliable. What are you trying to proof here. |
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QUOTE(azizul9736 @ Jul 27 2014, 01:01 PM) Conti car saleman detected. Proof is everywhere conti vw is not reliable. What are you trying to proof here. Conti sellman won't say Toyota good, Mazda good, Hyundai good, Kia good, Chevy good, Ford good. Get your head corrected before you post out of desperation and personal hatred. |
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Jul 27 2014, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 27 2014, 12:17 PM) 8th generation Honta x Guna Accord 2009 has problem with ABS jammed brake, gearbox slippage, can't get into reverse and shift forward 2nd or 3rd gear for some time. Bearing also makes noise wooo woo. Honta is just a vase, handle with care with less use only. Use too much on our road & traffic would end up breaking some parts. Better buy conti than Honta. +1 .. I agree conti is better than Honta |
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Jul 27 2014, 01:57 PM
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Any 2014 manufactured car return to service centre to claim warranty for dsg??
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Jul 27 2014, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 27 2014, 01:57 PM) Any 2014 manufactured car return to service centre to claim warranty for dsg?? Hi,I just got my new Passat 2014 two days ago. It's too soon for me to judge... Will keep you guys posted if there's any problem... Cheers! By the way, if there's any 2014 VW owner that clocked 20k mileage above can share their experience perhaps? |
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Jul 27 2014, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(sochun2424 @ Jul 27 2014, 02:14 PM) Hi, My 3 weeks old jetta seem ok. No problem on dsg so far. Mileage 1600 already.I just got my new Passat 2014 two days ago. It's too soon for me to judge... Will keep you guys posted if there's any problem... Cheers! By the way, if there's any 2014 VW owner that clocked 20k mileage above can share their experience perhaps? |
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Jul 27 2014, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 27 2014, 02:33 PM) My 3 weeks old jetta seem ok. No problem on dsg so far. Mileage 1600 already. Still too early to tell. My 20 months & 30K Jetta ~ Piston & Cylinder cracked! |
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Jul 27 2014, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(ric1234 @ Jul 27 2014, 02:42 PM) Still too early to tell. My 20 months & 30K Jetta ~ Piston & Cylinder cracked! Manufacture year? |
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Jul 29 2014, 09:22 AM
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Volkswagen still struggling in US due to poor quality issues and defects...
http://247wallst.com/autos/2014/07/02/vws-...oubles-cripple/ |
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Aug 1 2014, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 27 2014, 03:18 PM) Manufacture year? 2012. |
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Aug 1 2014, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(ric1234 @ Jul 27 2014, 02:42 PM) Still too early to tell. My 20 months & 30K Jetta ~ Piston & Cylinder cracked!  Sure boh?? Most engines can last very long time....still under warranty?? |
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Aug 1 2014, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Aug 1 2014, 11:17 AM) Sure boh?? Most engines can last very long time....still under warranty?? |
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Aug 1 2014, 12:12 PM
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I Thought latest model they change to high grade piston?
Btw, dont aspect much. Cc only 1.4.. dont stress your engine too much on high speed.. |
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Aug 1 2014, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(feelfree @ Aug 1 2014, 12:02 PM) This is very common problem for the 1.4 TSi engine! I guess this is what happens when you play with Turbo...Save a little bit of money on roadtax, but engine koyak...i still prefer higher CC NA and pay my road tax....  This post has been edited by Matrix: Aug 1 2014, 12:29 PM |
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Aug 1 2014, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Aug 1 2014, 12:27 PM) I guess this is what happens when you play with Turbo... Dont worry.. warranty 5 years if u follow the service interval. 2 years vw and 3 years insurance..Save a little bit of money on roadtax, but engine koyak...i still prefer higher CC NA and pay my road tax.... |
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Aug 1 2014, 12:42 PM
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why u buy when u know got some issue which defect rate quite high?
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Aug 1 2014, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE(xSean @ Aug 1 2014, 12:42 PM) why u buy when u know got some issue which defect rate quite high? After test drive, fall in love with the power of the engine, handling, quiet cabin, many features.. easily go 200kmh. |
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Aug 1 2014, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Aug 1 2014, 12:34 PM) Dont worry.. warranty 5 years if u follow the service interval. 2 years vw and 3 years insurance.. that 3 years insurance already give you headache when you wanna claim warranty...btw, saw one white Passat broke down during the Raya exodus jam from Tg Malim to Tapah last Saturday... This post has been edited by Eithanius: Aug 1 2014, 12:52 PM |
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Aug 1 2014, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Aug 1 2014, 12:51 PM) that 3 years insurance already give you headache when you wanna claim warranty... I saw new CRV on towing yesterday from tg.malim to kl.. so?btw, saw one white Passat broke down during the Raya exodus jam from Tg Malim to Tapah last Saturday... |
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Aug 1 2014, 01:09 PM
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My cousin working in honda. He say 2 new accord come back to claim warranty because of water come inside when raining.. rear seat all will flood with water..
My point is, all car hs problem.. |
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Aug 1 2014, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Aug 1 2014, 01:09 PM) My cousin working in honda. He say 2 new accord come back to claim warranty because of water come inside when raining.. rear seat all will flood with water.. I agree with you... All car has problem. I just sold off my Mazda 3 2.0, year 2011. The car has a lot of problem as well, I replaced steering rack, front absorber, engine mounting 2 kali (1.5 year sekali), rear view mirror, headlamp due to water leakage... And so many thing I might not remember...My point is, all car hs problem.. But one thing need to highlight, Mazda after sales service is not bad... Hope VW can improve on this... |
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Aug 1 2014, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(sochun2424 @ Aug 1 2014, 01:15 PM) I agree with you... All car has problem. I just sold off my Mazda 3 2.0, year 2011. The car has a lot of problem as well, I replaced steering rack, front absorber, engine mounting 2 kali (1.5 year sekali), rear view mirror, headlamp due to water leakage... And so many thing I might not remember... Yup the only problem with the vw customer care and also after sale service. i think perodua is better.. haha. But i see they trying to improve. .But one thing need to highlight, Mazda after sales service is not bad... Hope VW can improve on this... This post has been edited by mozact89: Aug 1 2014, 01:22 PM |
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Aug 1 2014, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Aug 1 2014, 01:06 PM) I saw new CRV on towing yesterday from tg.malim to kl.. so? QUOTE(mozact89 @ Aug 1 2014, 01:09 PM) My cousin working in honda. He say 2 new accord come back to claim warranty because of water come inside when raining.. rear seat all will flood with water.. your topic = DSG, my reply = Passat...My point is, all car hs problem.. how does that relate to CRV...? and yes, all cars have problems... but like I implied, Passat becoz this thread is about DSG problem... so I ask you again, how does that relate to CRV...? If you get butthurt becoz I mentioned Passat, then don't bother reply at all... |
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Aug 1 2014, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Aug 1 2014, 01:36 PM) your topic = DSG, my reply = Passat... Haha. Peace. Forgot this thread about dsg problem.. btw, not all vw breakdown due to dsg.. if electronic failure sometime only a small matter also will breakdown the car.. not recommended to drive and better to bring to nearest Service centre..how does that relate to CRV...? and yes, all cars have problems... but like I implied, Passat becoz this thread is about DSG problem... so I ask you again, how does that relate to CRV...? If you get butthurt becoz I mentioned Passat, then don't bother reply at all... |
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Aug 1 2014, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Aug 1 2014, 01:41 PM) Haha. Peace. Forgot this thread about dsg problem.. btw, not all vw breakdown due to dsg.. if electronic failure sometime only a small matter also will breakdown the car.. not recommended to drive and better to bring to nearest Service centre.. Good to know even a small problem can bring the car to it's knees!! |
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Aug 1 2014, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Aug 1 2014, 02:08 PM) Good to know even a small problem can bring the car to it's knees!! Any modern car with electronics also same la. |
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Aug 1 2014, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 1 2014, 07:49 PM) Any modern car with electronics also same la. I thought conti car use cam-bus electronic system.. and japan use conventional electronic system..This post has been edited by mozact89: Aug 1 2014, 07:57 PM |
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Aug 1 2014, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Aug 1 2014, 07:57 PM) I thought conti car use cam-bus electronic system.. and japan use conventional electronic system.. CANbus or not CANbus, if one or more of your engine or gearbox sensors kong, you might have to start taking RAPIDKLbus.This post has been edited by dares: Aug 1 2014, 08:48 PM |
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Aug 1 2014, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 1 2014, 08:48 PM) CANbus or not CANbus, if one or more of your engine or gearbox sensors kong, you might have to start taking RAPIDKLbus. Haha.. |
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Aug 2 2014, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Aug 1 2014, 11:17 AM) Sure boh?? Most engines can last very long time....still under warranty?? |
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Aug 2 2014, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Aug 1 2014, 01:09 PM) My point is, all car hs problem.. All problems have severity level as well... power window design issue vs gearbox design issue is a very big difference problem.Rain water leaking into cabin vs piston crack... big difference. Fish tank lamp vs sudden power lost... big difference. Car keep steering to the left vs rear wheel dislocate... big difference. Engine oil leak vs spark plug getting rust... big difference. No doubt all those problems are headache to owner. But... hmm... good luck to VW owner. |
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Aug 5 2014, 12:55 PM
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Let just see if DSG issue still popup after this post.
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Aug 5 2014, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Aug 5 2014, 12:55 PM) Let just see if DSG issue still popup after this post. But from what i see on 2014 model, no dsg breakdown yet.. |
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Aug 5 2014, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Aug 5 2014, 01:17 PM) But from what i see on 2014 model, no dsg breakdown yet.. If a 2014 car DSG breakdown in the same year... VW can just close shop. |
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Aug 5 2014, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Aug 5 2014, 01:20 PM) If a 2014 car DSG breakdown in the same year... VW can just close shop. I think it depends on mileage than age  |
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Aug 5 2014, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 5 2014, 01:28 PM) I think it depends on mileage than age Well, say if someone reach 30k km within 2 weeks and say "omfg my brand new jetta dsg broke down in 2 weeks"... well still can close shop. haha... and disproved vw already fixed the issue. This post has been edited by dstl1128: Aug 5 2014, 04:50 PM |
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Aug 5 2014, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Aug 5 2014, 01:17 PM) But from what i see on 2014 model, no dsg breakdown yet.. There was another thread with the JD power survey. 2013, VW at top of satisfaction list of after sales. 2014, bottom of list. So, if we use this logic, 2014 owners will be visiting SC more often in 2015. |
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Aug 5 2014, 11:44 PM
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A friend's Polo just died this morning right after collecting it from the service center. All lights came on and everything shutdown while she was on the highway. Had to tow the car back
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Aug 6 2014, 12:02 AM
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Just fixed DSG? Or normal service?
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Aug 6 2014, 01:00 AM
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Aug 5 2014, 11:44 PM) A friend's Polo just died this morning right after collecting it from the service center. All lights came on and everything shutdown while she was on the highway. Had to tow the car back I think nothing wrong with the car.. Vw Pdi is worst.. At first, they hv to activate all the function at the car. I hv experience when want to drive the car, ESC warning light came out.. i call the tech and he connect vagcom. They forgot to enable the esc.. |
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Aug 6 2014, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Aug 6 2014, 01:00 AM) I think nothing wrong with the car.. Vw Pdi is worst.. At first, they hv to activate all the function at the car. I hv experience when want to drive the car, ESC warning light came out.. i call the tech and he connect vagcom. They forgot to enable the esc.. It wasn't that. The entire car couldn't even start up even with a battery swap. Can't even connect their diagnostic tool to it because of no power. Tried with VCDS and still no idea. The car has been left there, man was she pissed. |
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Aug 6 2014, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Aug 6 2014, 10:07 AM) It wasn't that. The entire car couldn't even start up even with a battery swap. Can't even connect their diagnostic tool to it because of no power. Tried with VCDS and still no idea. The car has been left there, man was she pissed. Electronic problem maybe.. short circuit..- 1 week old passat cc at melaka breakdown due to short circuit cause by firework. Cable burn already.cannot claim warranty.. kesian the owmer... |
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Aug 6 2014, 11:33 AM
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If not wrong DSG come with 2 set of problem
Breakdown: Machatronic Failure Symptom : Gearbox suddently DIE . no jerk no judder just stop and dead! Problem : Synthetic used causes sort of rust or deposit build-up when the oil react with the plastic part inside the gearbox which causes the gearbox electric pump to fail Solution : Change to mineral gear oil which do not cause reaction with the plastic which cause the rust or deposit to form... Conclusion : This consider fixed... if it fail go smack VW R&D -------------- Breakdown 2: Judder, vibration between gear 1-2 or 2-3 Causes : Clutch pack premature failure. few recall : change from version 1 to version 2 and version 2 to 2.5 the newest clutch is version 3 I think... which claim to solve the final problem... note: version 3 still new need to run it then only know the reliability... but according to uncle google version 3 should nail it all... |
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Aug 6 2014, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Aug 6 2014, 11:33 AM) If not wrong DSG come with 2 set of problem NICE, feel enlightened!! Breakdown: Machatronic Failure Symptom : Gearbox suddently DIE . no jerk no judder just stop and dead! Problem : Synthetic used causes sort of rust or deposit build-up when the oil react with the plastic part inside the gearbox which causes the gearbox electric pump to fail Solution : Change to mineral gear oil which do not cause reaction with the plastic which cause the rust or deposit to form... Conclusion : This consider fixed... if it fail go smack VW R&D -------------- Breakdown 2: Judder, vibration between gear 1-2 or 2-3 Causes : Clutch pack premature failure. few recall : change from version 1 to version 2 and version 2 to 2.5 the newest clutch is version 3 I think... which claim to solve the final problem... note: version 3 still new need to run it then only know the reliability... but according to uncle google version 3 should nail it all... |
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Aug 6 2014, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Aug 6 2014, 12:33 PM) If not wrong DSG come with 2 set of problem do these fixes apply for both DSG 6 & 7-speeds? or just 6-speeds only?Breakdown: Machatronic Failure Symptom : Gearbox suddently DIE . no jerk no judder just stop and dead! Problem : Synthetic used causes sort of rust or deposit build-up when the oil react with the plastic part inside the gearbox which causes the gearbox electric pump to fail Solution : Change to mineral gear oil which do not cause reaction with the plastic which cause the rust or deposit to form... Conclusion : This consider fixed... if it fail go smack VW R&D -------------- Breakdown 2: Judder, vibration between gear 1-2 or 2-3 Causes : Clutch pack premature failure. few recall : change from version 1 to version 2 and version 2 to 2.5 the newest clutch is version 3 I think... which claim to solve the final problem... note: version 3 still new need to run it then only know the reliability... but according to uncle google version 3 should nail it all... |
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Aug 6 2014, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Aug 6 2014, 11:33 AM) If not wrong DSG come with 2 set of problem Good and precise explanation from the person who know about the problem well.. not like some of the basher here..Breakdown: Machatronic Failure Symptom : Gearbox suddently DIE . no jerk no judder just stop and dead! Problem : Synthetic used causes sort of rust or deposit build-up when the oil react with the plastic part inside the gearbox which causes the gearbox electric pump to fail Solution : Change to mineral gear oil which do not cause reaction with the plastic which cause the rust or deposit to form... Conclusion : This consider fixed... if it fail go smack VW R&D -------------- Breakdown 2: Judder, vibration between gear 1-2 or 2-3 Causes : Clutch pack premature failure. few recall : change from version 1 to version 2 and version 2 to 2.5 the newest clutch is version 3 I think... which claim to solve the final problem... note: version 3 still new need to run it then only know the reliability... but according to uncle google version 3 should nail it all... I dont know what version my car now, but from what i see. In traffic jem, the geabox now straight to d2. No jerking at all. |
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Aug 6 2014, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(overfloe @ Aug 6 2014, 12:00 PM) do these fixes apply for both DSG 6 & 7-speeds? or just 6-speeds only? DSG 7 DQ200 model onlyDQ250 6 Speed not affected (Very reliable gearbox) DQ500 7 Speed not affected (very reliable gearbox) This post has been edited by calvin_ng: Aug 6 2014, 03:40 PM |
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Aug 6 2014, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Aug 6 2014, 03:36 PM) DSG 7 DQ200 model only mind telling me what type of gearbox cross touran is using?DQ250 6 Speed not affected (Very reliable gearbox) DQ500 7 Speed not affected (very reliable gearbox) |
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Aug 6 2014, 05:53 PM
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according to my friend who work at volkswagen customer service at singapore, the problem still appearing even after changing to using mineral oil.
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Aug 6 2014, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Aug 6 2014, 10:11 AM) Electronic problem maybe.. short circuit.. Sitting here at SS2 with the owner, mechanics completely clueless. They are attempting to change the engine for the second time. Also next to me is a Rocco owner who is currently using his 4th engine.- 1 week old passat cc at melaka breakdown due to short circuit cause by firework. Cable burn already.cannot claim warranty.. kesian the owmer... |
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Aug 6 2014, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Aug 6 2014, 10:14 PM) Sitting here at SS2 with the owner, mechanics completely clueless. They are attempting to change the engine for the second time. Also next to me is a Rocco owner who is currently using his 4th engine. So actually what is the problem? even the mechanic also clueless.. Any VW technical expert from German come down? |
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Aug 6 2014, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Aug 6 2014, 12:58 PM) Good and precise explanation from the person who know about the problem well.. not like some of the basher here.. that is not what i call an explanation... more like repeating what the released/published bulletin notes say...I dont know what version my car now, but from what i see. In traffic jem, the geabox now straight to d2. No jerking at all. no offence... |
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Aug 7 2014, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(myeddylim @ Aug 6 2014, 05:28 PM) mind telling me what type of gearbox cross touran is using? Very simple actuallyAny Engine below 2.0 (Except Tiguan) uses DQ200 7 Speed DSG Any Engine 2.0 and above uses DQ250 (6 Speed DSG) except Tiguan and Toureg Tiguan 1.4 uses 6 Speed DQ250 and Tiguan 2.0 uses 7 Speed DQ500 your answer Cross Touran uses DQ200 7 Speed DSG... the point is the failure of DSG7 is not heat just the problem with wrong oil... that causes Rust and deposits to form... since the gearbox operate at constant 90*c to 100*c I hardly see oil temp above it... even my Honda insight the temp is around 89*c without any turbocharge... (I use ODB-II adapter to read and connect via android phone) The case is just simple... wrong oil that react with the plastic which make the oil turn acidic or something and attack the motor inside the machatronic... which create some rust which cause the motor to die... thats machatronic... on Clutch pack... what I can see is because machatronic motor is rusted low pressure applies to clutch causing the clutch to slip and wear pre-mature... DSG is like manual car they rely on Clutch and imagine you press the clutch half way and drive a manual car guarantee your clutch burn! same problem here... the machatronic provide hydraulic pressure to press the clutch if the machatronic is damage the pressure may not be enough to press the clutch causes the clutch to fail... I have driven car with Clutch (My honda city and insight with CVT uses clutch) and my VW uses clutch as well... think about it... clutch will wear and need replacement also... dont think this is a Auto box uses torque converter... |
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Aug 7 2014, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Aug 6 2014, 11:30 PM) that is not what i call an explanation... more like repeating what the released/published bulletin notes say... It is not repeating.... it is explanation to the situation....no offence... I hate ppl come in say You suc<s??? WTF is this shit... ask more care to explain why the car suk they simply say it suk looo.... yeah easy explanation... I can say you suk as well... without any explanation... summore ask deeper hahaha I only drive a Vios (no offence it is a GOD car...) then ask summore TOYOTA SALESMAN nearly faint... then ask why VW suk... he say he heard from friend of friend of friend... alamak... die liow.... if you want to know the REAL situation and the solution... need to understand the point of failure and what causes it... dont simply say it is a Bad car or bad Gearbox... Why I even care to explain... simple when I drive my Honda City the whole world is condeming the CVT... (back in 2000) now the whole world uses CVT...??? if it is THAT BAD why use it!!!Now when my car uses DSG the whole world again say DSG suk... now Honda is moving to DSG, Ford Uses it, more and more car are coming to use it... think about it... if that bad this box then why BIG manufacturer uses it... dont mention race car brand almost all uses it! |
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Aug 7 2014, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Aug 6 2014, 10:14 PM) Sitting here at SS2 with the owner, mechanics completely clueless. They are attempting to change the engine for the second time. Also next to me is a Rocco owner who is currently using his 4th engine. |
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Aug 7 2014, 09:49 AM) Very simple actually one more question, how much will the clutch pack cost? have to go back to SC to change or can change in any workshop?Any Engine below 2.0 (Except Tiguan) uses DQ200 7 Speed DSG Any Engine 2.0 and above uses DQ250 (6 Speed DSG) except Tiguan and Toureg Tiguan 1.4 uses 6 Speed DQ250 and Tiguan 2.0 uses 7 Speed DQ500 your answer Cross Touran uses DQ200 7 Speed DSG... the point is the failure of DSG7 is not heat just the problem with wrong oil... that causes Rust and deposits to form... since the gearbox operate at constant 90*c to 100*c I hardly see oil temp above it... even my Honda insight the temp is around 89*c without any turbocharge... (I use ODB-II adapter to read and connect via android phone) The case is just simple... wrong oil that react with the plastic which make the oil turn acidic or something and attack the motor inside the machatronic... which create some rust which cause the motor to die... thats machatronic... on Clutch pack... what I can see is because machatronic motor is rusted low pressure applies to clutch causing the clutch to slip and wear pre-mature... DSG is like manual car they rely on Clutch and imagine you press the clutch half way and drive a manual car guarantee your clutch burn! same problem here... the machatronic provide hydraulic pressure to press the clutch if the machatronic is damage the pressure may not be enough to press the clutch causes the clutch to fail... I have driven car with Clutch (My honda city and insight with CVT uses clutch) and my VW uses clutch as well... think about it... clutch will wear and need replacement also... dont think this is a Auto box uses torque converter... |
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Aug 7 2014, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(myeddylim @ Aug 7 2014, 11:50 AM) one more question, how much will the clutch pack cost? have to go back to SC to change or can change in any workshop? Dont know... will find out after 4 years... now under warranty just get it change FOC |
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Aug 7 2014, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Aug 7 2014, 09:55 AM) Why I even care to explain... simple when I drive my Honda City the whole world is condeming the CVT... (back in 2000) now the whole world uses CVT...??? CVT is great. The limitation to belt driven CVT is that the belt cannot slip. That belt slippage can be caused by two thing: if it is THAT BAD why use it!!!Now when my car uses DSG the whole world again say DSG suk... now Honda is moving to DSG, Ford Uses it, more and more car are coming to use it... think about it... if that bad this box then why BIG manufacturer uses it... dont mention race car brand almost all uses it! 1) use of non CVTF 2) sudden shock, sudden stop, sudden 'accelerate' - caused by accidents, impacts... For 1 is because of CVTF have micro rubblet just to maintain the friction between the pulleys and and belt. An ATF will be smooth enough to have the belt to slip causing permanent damage on the belt. For 2 a torque converter (TC) coupler would soften the impact/shock, indirectly increase the treshold of shock resistance. The 'old' Honda City uses clutch, so it is more delicate to shocks than those with TC. Why use it? Damn it is and smooth. Now DSG (or whatever DCT failure), I strongly believe is a firmware issue than anything else - meaning that the firmware is unable to select the appropriate behavior under some specific user condition, and prolonged 'wrong behavior' being used will just have eventual failure. |
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Aug 7 2014, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Aug 7 2014, 12:10 PM) CVT is great. The limitation to belt driven CVT is that the belt cannot slip. That belt slippage can be caused by two thing: I have been enjoying CVT Transmission way before others and now I have been enjoying DCT / DSG way before others... the feeling is good!!!1) use of non CVTF 2) sudden shock, sudden stop, sudden 'accelerate' - caused by accidents, impacts... For 1 is because of CVTF have micro rubblet just to maintain the friction between the pulleys and and belt. An ATF will be smooth enough to have the belt to slip causing permanent damage on the belt. For 2 a torque converter (TC) coupler would soften the impact/shock, indirectly increase the treshold of shock resistance. The 'old' Honda City uses clutch, so it is more delicate to shocks than those with TC. Why use it? Damn it is and smooth. Now DSG (or whatever DCT failure), I strongly believe is a firmware issue than anything else - meaning that the firmware is unable to select the appropriate behavior under some specific user condition, and prolonged 'wrong behavior' being used will just have eventual failure. Manufacturer will learn and time move forward as more data sample is collected... To those who drive a DSG/DCT Gearbox you know what I mean when I say the Grip and the FUN is addictive |
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Aug 7 2014, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Aug 7 2014, 01:45 PM) I have been enjoying CVT Transmission way before others and now I have been enjoying DCT / DSG way before others... the feeling is good!!! What DCT/DSG has to do with grip? I sat in two Golf GTi before (one is modded)... feeling is Manufacturer will learn and time move forward as more data sample is collected... To those who drive a DSG/DCT Gearbox you know what I mean when I say the Grip and the FUN is addictive  . Of course it is way faster than Vios or Myvi but acceleration is surprisingly unexpectedly unexciting. |
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Aug 7 2014, 02:53 PM
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No losses power in shifting. Just like manual gearbox but with fastest shifting...
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Aug 7 2014, 02:54 PM
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More losses in gearbox will decrease wheel horse power.
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Aug 7 2014, 06:19 PM
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I think VW if really want to solve the DSG problem, they have to redesign a new one.
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Aug 7 2014, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Aug 6 2014, 10:35 PM) So actually what is the problem? even the mechanic also clueless.. Any VW technical expert from German come down? The Golf 1.4 Mk6 which the whole car failed, the mechanics are still investigating the cause. The Scirocco with the 4th engine had multiple piston crack issues. Prior to Jan 2014, piston crack issues gets you a new engine but now after Jan 2014, they will only replace the piston. Just a point to note that in the event if your VW had an engine change due to the piston crack issue, make sure that the engine number isn't stamped twice on the engine. My friend had an issue when he wanted to sell off his Rocco 1.4 but faced a Puspakom inspection failed because the number of stamped twice on the engine. He had to go to VGM to get a letter confirming that his car went through a warranty change and that the engine was changed. |
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Aug 7 2014, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Aug 7 2014, 09:55 AM) It is not repeating.... it is explanation to the situation.... seems like u dont understand the underlying foundations of why i said what i said...I hate ppl come in say You suc<s??? WTF is this shit... ask more care to explain why the car suk they simply say it suk looo.... yeah easy explanation... I can say you suk as well... without any explanation... summore ask deeper hahaha I only drive a Vios (no offence it is a GOD car...) then ask summore TOYOTA SALESMAN nearly faint... then ask why VW suk... he say he heard from friend of friend of friend... alamak... die liow.... if you want to know the REAL situation and the solution... need to understand the point of failure and what causes it... dont simply say it is a Bad car or bad Gearbox... Why I even care to explain... simple when I drive my Honda City the whole world is condeming the CVT... (back in 2000) now the whole world uses CVT...??? if it is THAT BAD why use it!!!Now when my car uses DSG the whole world again say DSG suk... now Honda is moving to DSG, Ford Uses it, more and more car are coming to use it... think about it... if that bad this box then why BIG manufacturer uses it... dont mention race car brand almost all uses it! because in my views, u are repeating the bulletin notes without knowing why it is such... then u go shoot me saying i am bashing DSG... u need to find out what and who u are talking too first... P/S - if u even remotely know how the DSG7 works, u will get a gist of what i am talking about... |
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Aug 7 2014, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Aug 6 2014, 10:14 PM) Sitting here at SS2 with the owner, mechanics completely clueless. They are attempting to change the engine for the second time. Also next to me is a Rocco owner who is currently using his 4th engine. 4th engine? He everyweek whack Sepang is it? |
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Aug 7 2014, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Aug 7 2014, 07:30 PM) seems like u dont understand the underlying foundations of why i said what i said... So why not share your opinions here? share dont keep it for yourself, enlightened us all. I need info on DSG issue.because in my views, u are repeating the bulletin notes without knowing why it is such... then u go shoot me saying i am bashing DSG... u need to find out what and who u are talking too first... P/S - if u even remotely know how the DSG7 works, u will get a gist of what i am talking about... |
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Aug 8 2014, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Aug 7 2014, 07:30 PM) seems like u dont understand the underlying foundations of why i said what i said... Didn't shoot you or anyone just explaining thats all...because in my views, u are repeating the bulletin notes without knowing why it is such... then u go shoot me saying i am bashing DSG... u need to find out what and who u are talking too first... P/S - if u even remotely know how the DSG7 works, u will get a gist of what i am talking about... You may have different views but DSG breakdown only come from 2 sources 1: Machatronic and 2: Clutch Pack Alot of ppl out there just generalizing say the DSG fail but the big question is which part it failed... and what VW doing about it... so explanation highlight the 2 area at fault and what VW did... and will it come back I can say no 1. is solved and no 2. still to early to tell if the clutch pack v3 is solid enough.... finger crossed so far my car after perform this 2 still going strong..... |
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Aug 8 2014, 10:58 AM
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Which VW branch are you attached? |
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Aug 8 2014, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Aug 7 2014, 09:08 PM) 4th engine? He everyweek whack Sepang is it? The problem with Piston Failure is our petrol kinda sucks... mainly due to misfiring which killed the engine...some friend I know killed the engine when they piggyback the ECU increasing the performance out of it but uses RON95... straight kaput then unplug the piggiback and claim new engine from VW... (I dont say all engine fail due to mods... some just plain unlucky) |
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Aug 8 2014, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(santaloke @ Aug 8 2014, 10:58 AM) Which VW branch are you attached? service center or where I buy my car?? |
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Aug 8 2014, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Aug 8 2014, 10:59 AM) The problem with Piston Failure is our petrol kinda sucks... mainly due to misfiring which killed the engine... Excellent method to claim warranty for new engine...Well done! I am sure lots of VW owners here will follow your procedures.... some friend I know killed the engine when they piggyback the ECU increasing the performance out of it but uses RON95... straight kaput then unplug the piggiback and claim new engine from VW... (I dont say all engine fail due to mods... some just plain unlucky) |
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Aug 8 2014, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Aug 8 2014, 11:01 AM) service center or where I buy my car?? Both. |
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Aug 8 2014, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(santaloke @ Aug 8 2014, 11:09 AM) Both. Buy at Wearnes but Service elsewhere at Jln Ipoh...some VW service center kinda su*ks... been to some really teribble so I go to the best service center that are responsible to update me..... |
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Aug 8 2014, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Aug 8 2014, 11:08 AM) Excellent method to claim warranty for new engine...Well done! I am sure lots of VW owners here will follow your procedures.... They can.... I mean feel free to do it but remember not all modifications are properly masked if VW found mods to the engine your warranty will be void... I dont want that to happen... Dont get caught.... the penalty is 5 years warranty |
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Aug 8 2014, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Aug 8 2014, 11:25 AM) Buy at Wearnes but Service elsewhere at Jln Ipoh... So for you the best is Jalan Ipoh?some VW service center kinda su*ks... been to some really teribble so I go to the best service center that are responsible to update me..... |
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Aug 8 2014, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Aug 8 2014, 12:50 PM) So for you the best is Jalan Ipoh? Near my home and quite goodat least they know what they are doing |
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Aug 8 2014, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Aug 8 2014, 11:26 AM) .... the penalty is The other 3 yrs is just sport toto kind of warranty. |
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Aug 8 2014, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Aug 8 2014, 01:52 PM) The other 3 yrs is just sport toto kind of warranty. The warranty still valid on Extended warranty just need to follow the T&C laaaif you breach the clock or the allowance 1,500KM it is your fault... just that the insurance being an insurance they do take things SERIOUSLY.... manufacturer usually close 1 eye... but since it involve external warranty program (like the INSURANCE) you must play by the rules |
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Aug 8 2014, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Aug 8 2014, 02:00 PM) The warranty still valid on Extended warranty just need to follow the T&C laaa But i bet Extended Warranty will have lots of red tapes and small fine print to make you very difficult to make claims...if you breach the clock or the allowance 1,500KM it is your fault... just that the insurance being an insurance they do take things SERIOUSLY.... manufacturer usually close 1 eye... but since it involve external warranty program (like the INSURANCE) you must play by the rules Anyone has every make a major claims using Extended Warranty??  |
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Aug 8 2014, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Aug 8 2014, 02:15 PM) But i bet Extended Warranty will have lots of red tapes and small fine print to make you very difficult to make claims... Yep used to (Pre protest at VW Malaysia)Anyone has every make a major claims using Extended Warranty?? After the protest all Extended warranty are now handled by Volkswagen Malaysia HQ no I can say not much difference between Manufacturer warranty now except the warranty exclude consumable like transmission oil and other oil and liquid... All in so far quite fast on the Warranty part the problem is the parts some time need to be shipped in cause thre is no wearhouse in Malaysia nearest in Singapore and some rare stuff need to come from India, China, Mexico or Germany and can take weeks to month... |
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Aug 8 2014, 08:30 PM
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say no to VW DSG !
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Aug 8 2014, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(siakap5 @ Aug 8 2014, 08:30 PM) say no to VW DSG ! You obviously don't know what you are talking about. |
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Aug 8 2014, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(siakap5 @ Aug 8 2014, 08:30 PM) say no to VW DSG ! What happen to u bro? Mind to share your bad experience on YOUR VW..This post has been edited by mozact89: Aug 8 2014, 10:12 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Aug 9 2014, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE(Yapmy @ Aug 8 2014, 09:45 PM) You obviously don't know what you are talking about. sorry bro ... I obviously don't know much but I am sure you know NUTS ..... sorry bro .You know NUTS Bro . Cheers bro |
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Aug 9 2014, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Aug 8 2014, 10:04 PM) What happen to u bro? Mind to share your bad experience on YOUR VW.. Hi Bro , no need to share bros ... no need waste time bro .No VW DSG ( dry or wet also rubbish ) ...... Big NO Cheers |
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Aug 9 2014, 12:28 AM
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To solve the problems why not they just bring in manual transmission car.
Modern manual transmission clutch is so light and should not be any problem during traffic jam. |
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Aug 9 2014, 12:41 AM
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QUOTE(siakap5 @ Aug 9 2014, 12:01 AM) sorry bro ... I obviously don't know much but I am sure you know NUTS ..... sorry bro . Grow up and stop trolling although it's the Internet. You are obviously nuts and too free. ☺ guess your parents didn't teach you how to type properly too.You know NUTS Bro . Cheers bro This post has been edited by Yapmy: Aug 9 2014, 12:45 AM |
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Aug 9 2014, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(Yapmy @ Aug 9 2014, 12:41 AM) Grow up and stop trolling although it's the Internet. You are obviously nuts and too free. ☺ guess your parents didn't teach you how to type properly too. Hi Bangsaat Moroooon , Lets raps up see who trolling and pareants didn't teach . No to VW DSG => the bangsaat o moroon cannot tahan , bla bla bla immediately said as if he is expert and people know nothing . Doesn't matter you are VW SA or owner .... but 1 thing for sure for your ...... piss at the longkang and see your face .... Nothing more than a Bangsaat Morooon . Try harder la ..... cakap aje bantai ... cakap aje.... VW DSG tak boleh tahan ... peluk la DSG ngan nangis leh .... Bangsaat Morooon ....... cuba lagi la Cheers |
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Aug 9 2014, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(siakap5 @ Aug 9 2014, 10:04 AM) Hi Bangsaat Moroooon , Pls be more Matured.Lets raps up see who trolling and pareants didn't teach . No to VW DSG => the bangsaat o moroon cannot tahan , bla bla bla immediately said as if he is expert and people know nothing . Doesn't matter you are VW SA or owner .... but 1 thing for sure for your ...... piss at the longkang and see your face .... Nothing more than a Bangsaat Morooon . Try harder la ..... cakap aje bantai ... cakap aje.... VW DSG tak boleh tahan ... peluk la DSG ngan nangis leh .... Bangsaat Morooon ....... cuba lagi la Cheers |
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Aug 9 2014, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(gunsnroses @ Jul 4 2014, 06:17 PM) Last time people drive Volkswagen they ask you about your success. Now they will ask you about your gearbox. Haha... yah heard it, discuss it, making fun of it a lot during happy hours...Pity those ppl chosen vw for the sake of status purpose. |
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Aug 9 2014, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(Joe2011 @ Aug 9 2014, 10:44 AM) Pls be more Matured. Hi Bro , check who started first .Cheers |
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Aug 9 2014, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(SWIZZ @ Aug 9 2014, 10:49 AM) Haha... yah heard it, discuss it, making fun of it a lot during happy hours... Hi Bro , Pity those ppl chosen vw for the sake of status purpose. VW for status purpose ? status for breaking down .... or status of having courage to tackle the DSG problem . can't come close to Merz or BMW .... not even near bro . Those think they have a high status with VW .... alamak is syiok sendiri. Maybe they get entertained like king or slaves at VW SC ..... Ask VW owners la ,,,,, most dare not to speak much about this lemon or lemonage .. pay premium get lemon bro. naturally diam diam . Here a few heros try to defend and try very hard bros ... they might be the SA ....... alamak what world is this . VW ..... enough la . Are you sure status purpose ? Cheers |
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Aug 9 2014, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Aug 8 2014, 10:04 PM) What happen to u bro? Mind to share your bad experience on YOUR VW.. should be japanese car sales man |
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Aug 9 2014, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(siakap5 @ Aug 9 2014, 10:58 AM) Hi Bro , yes i'm sure its for status, just not sure by minority or majority.VW for status purpose ? status for breaking down .... or status of having courage to tackle the DSG problem . can't come close to Merz or BMW .... not even near bro . Those think they have a high status with VW .... alamak is syiok sendiri. Maybe they get entertained like king or slaves at VW SC ..... Ask VW owners la ,,,,, most dare not to speak much about this lemon or lemonage .. pay premium get lemon bro. naturally diam diam . Here a few heros try to defend and try very hard bros ... they might be the SA ....... alamak what world is this . VW ..... enough la . Are you sure status purpose ? Cheers your comparison scale is small ler bro. some ppl feels its more superior than other car makers i.e. japanese, koreans; Excluding those rare ppl that just wanna be diff/no where else to spend money. For vw enthusiast drivers will go for GTI models. This post has been edited by SWIZZ: Aug 9 2014, 11:12 AM |
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Aug 9 2014, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(SWIZZ @ Aug 9 2014, 11:10 AM) yes i'm sure its for status, just not sure by minority or majority. "genuine" people go for merz or BMW for high status .... not those tengah kati and they will opts for VW... your comparison scale is small ler bro. some ppl feels its more superior than other car makers i.e. japanese, koreans; Excluding those rare ppl that just wanna be diff/no where else to spend money. For vw enthusiast drivers will go for GTI models. Enough said . cheers |
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Aug 9 2014, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(outsiders_86 @ Aug 9 2014, 11:07 AM) should be japanese car sales man you just can't accept fact . perhaps u are VW SA ?LOL Cheers |
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Aug 9 2014, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(siakap5 @ Aug 9 2014, 11:15 AM) "genuine" people go for merz or BMW for high status .... not those tengah kati and they will opts for VW... well this world consists of many types of ppl isnt it? Enough said . cheers dont you realize even in car industry, say i.e. bmw are inventing more products like crossover models, GT models, SUVs.... funny u din say BMW suvs are for fags... why r u denying this fact zzzz? |
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Aug 9 2014, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(SWIZZ @ Aug 9 2014, 11:20 AM) well this world consists of many types of ppl isnt it? I m saying BMW or Merz definitely brings better status than VW generally .dont you realize even in car industry, say i.e. bmw are inventing more products like crossover models, GT models, SUVs.... funny u din say BMW suvs are for fags... why r u denying this fact zzzz? Get it before you shoot Cheers |
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Aug 9 2014, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(siakap5 @ Aug 9 2014, 11:25 AM) I m saying BMW or Merz definitely brings better status than VW generally . [ "genuine" people go for Bently or Maserati for high status .... not those tengah kati and they will opts for Merc/BMW... Get it before you shoot Cheers Enough said . ] Now i'd rephrase ur statement. read it n tell me how is it. still dont wan to admit ur mentality? |
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Aug 9 2014, 11:57 AM
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Sometimes we can judge people knowledge, education and their attitude from what they write and say..
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Aug 9 2014, 12:11 PM
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Please share knowledgeable info regarding dsg issue.
Is there any breakdown due to dsg failure on 2014 model? |
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Aug 9 2014, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(siakap5 @ Aug 9 2014, 10:04 AM) Hi Bangsaat Moroooon , This retard/moron clearly just shot himself on the foot. Instead of giving informative information he just blatantly talks/type without any justification or support. You wanna listen to these kind of idiots? Go figure everyone. Lets raps up see who trolling and pareants didn't teach . No to VW DSG => the bangsaat o moroon cannot tahan , bla bla bla immediately said as if he is expert and people know nothing . Doesn't matter you are VW SA or owner .... but 1 thing for sure for your ...... piss at the longkang and see your face .... Nothing more than a Bangsaat Morooon . Try harder la ..... cakap aje bantai ... cakap aje.... VW DSG tak boleh tahan ... peluk la DSG ngan nangis leh .... Bangsaat Morooon ....... cuba lagi la Cheers Btw pls ask your parents to teach you how to write or type better. Your English very powderful that I need to read it twice to understand the crap you are writing. Wanna talk big but can't talk properly is really a shame on yourself. This post has been edited by Yapmy: Aug 9 2014, 12:46 PM |
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Aug 9 2014, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(Yapmy @ Aug 9 2014, 12:44 PM) This retard/moron clearly just shot himself on the foot. Instead of giving informative information he just blatantly talks/type without any justification or support. You wanna listen to these kind of idiots? Go figure everyone. No need layan him la.. lets discuss and share some info.Btw pls ask your parents to teach you how to write or type better. Your English very powderful that I need to read it twice to understand the crap you are writing. Wanna talk big but can't talk properly is really a shame on yourself. |
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Aug 9 2014, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Aug 9 2014, 01:11 PM) Please share knowledgeable info regarding dsg issue. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid...0642601683&_rdrIs there any breakdown due to dsg failure on 2014 model? Golf MK7 TSI engine burned PJ |
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Aug 9 2014, 03:36 PM
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Mk7 or mk5??
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Aug 9 2014, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(chiunliang @ Aug 9 2014, 02:32 PM) For your information, that was the Golf MK5 R32 honestly if you want, you can find many cars that caught fire before ranging from Lambo, Ferari to Kia Forte Koup, New Honda City, Gen 2, Myvi, etc etc. Just google it or find it on YouTube. Doesn't really say much. Just one example:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd7-yTpvgew QUOTE(mozact89 @ Aug 9 2014, 03:36 PM) Mk7 or mk5?? Bro, just make sure your DSG is using the mineral oil and you should not need to worry about the mecha short-circuit causing the Gear indicator at your MID to start blinking/flashing. IF that still doesn't solve the problem I think there is no hope for them already. This post has been edited by Yapmy: Aug 9 2014, 04:06 PM |
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Aug 9 2014, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(Yapmy @ Aug 9 2014, 03:49 PM) For your information, that was the Golf MK5 R32 My car manufactured on mac 2014. Using mineral oil and already upgrade software already...honestly if you want, you can find many cars that caught fire before ranging from Lambo, Ferari to Kia Forte Koup, New Honda City, Gen 2, Myvi, etc etc. Just google it or find it on YouTube. Doesn't really say much. Just one example:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd7-yTpvgew Bro, just make sure your DSG is using the mineral oil and you should not need to worry about the mecha short-circuit causing the Gear indicator at your MID to start blinking/flashing. IF that still doesn't solve the problem I think there is no hope for them already. Hope no issue with dsg. If there any issue regarding dsg after change to mineral oil please share it here.. |
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Aug 10 2014, 12:53 AM
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I can't understand why VW is bothered with the unreliable DSG gearbox anyway. Any auto 5-6 speeder would have made customers 10X happier than they are now.
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Aug 10 2014, 11:55 AM
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Yesss.. vw car is fun to drivee... even 1.4 can easily go to 200kmh.. 0-100kmh for 8.3sec is fast for jetta compare to 2.0 civic, altis, mazda 3.. Roadtax only rm70..
158hp n 240nm torque for 1.4, what do u aspect.. That why after test drive jetta, i cancel booking new sylphy. Thats why i hope for this fun car, it also reliable.. This post has been edited by mozact89: Aug 10 2014, 12:03 PM |
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Aug 10 2014, 11:57 AM
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Maybe for some of the richfag not bother about the reliability of this car. But im not a richfag. Hope for what i spent is worth it..
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Aug 10 2014, 12:09 PM
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You get 95% of the fun factor with an auto gearbox but 10x Customer satisfaction. Doesnt take a marketing expert to know that the trade off is worth it .
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Aug 10 2014, 12:42 PM
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The fun factor not come only from gearbox i think. I think its from the engine.. but vw only come with dsg gearbox... if can choose either normal auto 5 or 6 speed(not cvt), many people will consider vw.
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Aug 10 2014, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Aug 7 2014, 09:08 PM) 4th engine? He everyweek whack Sepang is it? Nopes, car has never gone into Sepang not even once. Most of the time it is in the SC center waiting for the new engine to arrive. |
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Aug 10 2014, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Aug 10 2014, 07:35 PM) Nopes, car has never gone into Sepang not even once. Most of the time it is in the SC center waiting for the new engine to arrive. Wow, no luck with the car... |
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Aug 11 2014, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Aug 10 2014, 08:02 PM) Wow, no luck with the car... Yeah surprisingly those I know who track their cars, don't get these issues so much. |
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Aug 11 2014, 04:08 PM
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The dsg same model with VW still implement in Audi A3. Can it possible same problem occur?
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Aug 11 2014, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(chiunliang @ Aug 11 2014, 04:08 PM) The dsg same model with VW still implement in Audi A3. Can it possible same problem occur? Yup, for the new A3 1.4TFSI, same gearbox dq200 i think. Please pray that mineral oil solve the problem. hahaha  |
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Aug 11 2014, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE(siakap5 @ Aug 9 2014, 10:04 AM) Hi Bangsaat Moroooon , this is a final warning. Lets raps up see who trolling and pareants didn't teach . No to VW DSG => the bangsaat o moroon cannot tahan , bla bla bla immediately said as if he is expert and people know nothing . Doesn't matter you are VW SA or owner .... but 1 thing for sure for your ...... piss at the longkang and see your face .... Nothing more than a Bangsaat Morooon . Try harder la ..... cakap aje bantai ... cakap aje.... VW DSG tak boleh tahan ... peluk la DSG ngan nangis leh .... Bangsaat Morooon ....... cuba lagi la Cheers another such reply from you will be dealt with a 30 day suspension |
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Aug 12 2014, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE(matonline247 @ Aug 12 2014, 11:48 AM) the moment you try to win an argument through insult and personal attack, that's when you know you have no facts and knowledge about what you are talking about. You should try DSG first hand rather than just bashing it without any knowledge. no need layan him lar...I more care about dsg(dct) cause I planning to take A3 |
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Aug 23 2014, 07:47 PM
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well my 2011 polo tsi no issue with gearbox,
i did went thru the precautionary a. change clutch packs, under warranty in early 2012 b. change mechatronic, recall program at mid of 2013 c. change DSG oil to mineral, at 60k maintenance at year end of 2013 |
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Sep 1 2014, 04:14 PM
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Any 2014 made suffered from DSG problem so far?
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Sep 1 2014, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Sep 1 2014, 04:14 PM) Any 2014 made suffered from DSG problem so far? my jetta until now ok. 3 months, mileage 6k. |
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Sep 3 2014, 04:08 PM
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2,211 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: stankonia
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so CKD jetta better?
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Sep 3 2014, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(overfloe @ Sep 3 2014, 04:08 PM) so CKD jetta better? Hope so... really love the car right now. |
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Sep 4 2014, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE(jetpacker @ Sep 4 2014, 12:33 PM) u r paying premium price for a premium product...yet this kind of GB issue happened...u feel good bout it?...and this is not just happening to random lemon units...but happened to most of the VW car owner with similar GB..my colleague happily bought a polo 2 years back...and guess what?..not even few months, same GB problem happened to his car and he needs to tow it back to the SC...happened few times mind u....and my neighbour who owns a cross touran & passat cc encountered numerous issue with his cars as well....not sure why those VW friend that i know have problems with their car...coincident kot I give an example. for your case,,probably too many car owners hav the same issue..thus SC would be able to identify straight away u pay for what you deserved...if u pay cheap price for a car, expect problems to arise. but paying premium price for a car to have problemS like these is laughable. remember the demonstration few months back??...fuhhh http://www.livelifedrive.com/malaysia/news...ia-headquarters Im a type of "driver" person.. but also like comfortable and looks exclusive.. With budget of 130k, i already test drive mazda 3, altis, syplhy, civic 2.0.. but 1.4tsi engine with 158hp & 240nm torque give me satisfaction once i enter the car and accelerate.. roadtax rm70 yearly. . Fuel consumption if i drive constantly 110kmh around 15km/l.. I enjoy drive this car very much.. 0-100kmh in 8sec.. 200kmh easy to reach.. So, about the gearbox problem that maybe i will face later, i think it is acceptable after i lenjan the car this much.. and then can claim warranty sumore.. hahaha.. |
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Sep 5 2014, 12:18 AM
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I heard from a friend that both Passat and Jetta are soild cars, European handling is definitely different, him being a Camry owner before, he swear the difference is huge! But unfortunately, his Jetta is down fir 2 weeks already due to DSG problem....and apparently the problem is RAMPANT! I sincerely hope VW can rectify this problem quickly, as its still the best value for money continental....
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Sep 5 2014, 07:27 AM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Sep 4 2014, 07:55 PM) So, about the gearbox problem that maybe i will face later, i think it is acceptable after i lenjan the car this much.. and then can claim warranty sumore.. hahaha.. The more sporty you drive the less DSG issue you will have. If slowpoke or creeping with DSG, most likely to have problem. |
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Sep 5 2014, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Sep 5 2014, 07:27 AM) The more sporty you drive the less DSG issue you will have. If slowpoke or creeping with DSG, most likely to have problem. Someone told me like this before.. huhu.. |
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Sep 5 2014, 12:52 PM
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Classic cognitive dissonance....
Don't mind me, am just practicing psychology QUOTE(mozact89 @ Sep 4 2014, 07:55 PM) I give an example. Im a type of "driver" person.. but also like comfortable and looks exclusive.. With budget of 130k, i already test drive mazda 3, altis, syplhy, civic 2.0.. but 1.4tsi engine with 158hp & 240nm torque give me satisfaction once i enter the car and accelerate.. roadtax rm70 yearly. . Fuel consumption if i drive constantly 110kmh around 15km/l.. I enjoy drive this car very much.. 0-100kmh in 8sec.. 200kmh easy to reach.. So, about the gearbox problem that maybe i will face later, i think it is acceptable after i lenjan the car this much.. and then can claim warranty sumore.. hahaha.. |
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Sep 5 2014, 01:11 PM
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conclusion is,those who say got problem dont own the car or cant afford it so they get internet source to make themself feel better ^^
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Sep 5 2014, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(Darkcity212 @ Sep 5 2014, 01:11 PM) conclusion is,those who say got problem dont own the car or cant afford it so they get internet source to make themself feel better ^^  |
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Sep 5 2014, 01:31 PM
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definitely Vw had lost lots of sales due to this big issue across the globe.
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Jun 20 2015, 12:05 PM
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Hey bro, How's your car now? Mind to update your car condition/any issue came up so far? Will be appreciate for your update😁
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Jun 20 2015, 08:33 PM
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Just place a deposit for jetta. Wish me luck guys
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Jun 26 2015, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(JrKhor @ Jun 20 2015, 12:05 PM) Hey bro, How's your car now? Mind to update your car condition/any issue came up so far? Will be appreciate for your update😁 Hye bro. So far so good.. Now mileage 29k.. Tomorrow will be my 2nd service at VW balakong.. |
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Jun 26 2015, 02:54 PM
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Wow! Glad to hear that! I was searching for some info(pro/cons) and found out mostly are negative feedback... Btw I though you bought it for few years already? From the pictures you posted seems like it's about 1 year old for your car?
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Jun 26 2015, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(JrKhor @ Jun 26 2015, 02:54 PM) Wow! Glad to hear that! I was searching for some info(pro/cons) and found out mostly are negative feedback... Btw I though you bought it for few years already? From the pictures you posted seems like it's about 1 year old for your car? Yup, this July will be 1st year anniversary with the car. Haha.the picture i taken last week at Air master Sri Damansara.. |
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Jun 26 2015, 03:53 PM
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nice thread here, a real owner experience, not some blind basher who does not even own the car. and i can feel plenty of people keep lurking at this thread, waiting for any chance to bash TS if his car broke down.
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Jun 26 2015, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(battu @ Jun 26 2015, 03:53 PM) nice thread here, a real owner experience, not some blind basher who does not even own the car. and i can feel plenty of people keep lurking at this thread, waiting for any chance to bash TS if his car broke down. if the car breakdown also, i still feel satisfy after all i been done to my car... Previously im using turbo car, i have to service every 3k. But now, i change engine oil every 15k and also hentam that car kaw kaw..  |
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Jun 26 2015, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Sep 5 2014, 07:27 AM) The more sporty you drive the less DSG issue you will have. If slowpoke or creeping with DSG, most likely to have problem. Meaning we have to tekan more so that the gearbox wouldn't have problem? i actually planned to get a 2nd hand polo sedan.. |
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Jun 27 2015, 01:33 AM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jun 26 2015, 04:21 PM) Yup, this July will be 1st year anniversary with the car. Haha. What u doing inside the pic? Install bodykit? the picture i taken last week at Air master Sri Damansara.. QUOTE(battu @ Jun 26 2015, 04:53 PM) nice thread here, a real owner experience, not some blind basher who does not even own the car. and i can feel plenty of people keep lurking at this thread, waiting for any chance to bash TS if his car broke down. Agree with u bro... I've research a lot of DSG and enging issues of VW, saw a lot of bad feedback from owner themselfs, but some people that don't own a VW and talk like 'Macam Yes', this kind of people I hate the most man, misleading people only  QUOTE(triberium @ Jun 26 2015, 07:47 PM) Meaning we have to tekan more so that the gearbox wouldn't have problem? i actually planned to get a 2nd hand polo sedan.. How about Polo 1.2 TSI bro? More powaaa  but of course 1.6 NA with normal Auto box may save u some worries la... |
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Jun 27 2015, 01:55 AM
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QUOTE(triberium @ Jun 26 2015, 06:47 PM) Meaning we have to tekan more so that the gearbox wouldn't have problem? i actually planned to get a 2nd hand polo sedan.. The logic lies where if you let a dual clutch creep too much, the mechanics that control the amount of clutch engage will most likely being overburden, and create way too much grinding until the clutch heat up, causing even more inefficient in the power being transmitted. So ya. For both DSG (or even Ford's Powershift), don't creep. IF your car start to judder, WOT.  |
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Jun 27 2015, 02:01 AM
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DSG and PowerShifts is heaven to drive when the roads are clear and on those twisty roads
But you will start cursing once you are stuck in a traffic jam trying not to creep the car. At this point u wish u had a normal torque converter/cvt.. Can let the car creep all the way.. I havent tried Renault and Mercedes DCT so I cant comment on that. But for VW DSG - creeping is not much of an issue, it only starts juddering (pretty violent) when u press the pedal and the gear is about to shift from 1-2 and 2-3 Ford PowerShift - Totally cannot creep in this one, it will start shuddering once you lift off your foot from the brake pedal. So you always need to have your feet either on the accelerator pedal or the brakes in traffic jam. Cannot let it relax. Smooth shifts (like a normal auto)during change from 1-2 and 2-3 though.. This post has been edited by Boy96: Jun 27 2015, 02:07 AM |
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Jun 27 2015, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(JrKhor @ Jun 27 2015, 01:33 AM) What u doing inside the pic? Install bodykit? Install bodykit lor. Since new jetta come with bodykit looks nice.. Agree with u bro... I've research a lot of DSG and enging issues of VW, saw a lot of bad feedback from owner themselfs, but some people that don't own a VW and talk like 'Macam Yes', this kind of people I hate the most man, misleading people only How about Polo 1.2 TSI bro? More powaaa but of course 1.6 NA with normal Auto box may save u some worries la...I heard polo 1.2tsi now stop selling by local dealer. Dunno true or not. I heard from balakong salesman. Crosstouran, polo 1.2, polo 1.4 gti, bettle 1.4 n 2.0, now stop selling by dealer. |
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Jun 27 2015, 11:22 PM
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My 08 MK5 is still ok until today.Mine is Stage 2 tuned and thrashed it kao-kao already.Still good to go
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Jun 28 2015, 12:49 AM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jun 27 2015, 01:30 PM) Install bodykit lor. Since new jetta come with bodykit looks nice.. That means they don import CBU car already ka? I heard polo 1.2tsi now stop selling by local dealer. Dunno true or not. I heard from balakong salesman. Crosstouran, polo 1.2, polo 1.4 gti, bettle 1.4 n 2.0, now stop selling by dealer.  Is that because of the sales not going well? Yea the bodykit I kinda like it, quite fancy man~QUOTE(spoon2272 @ Jun 28 2015, 12:22 AM) My 08 MK5 is still ok until today.Mine is Stage 2 tuned and thrashed it kao-kao already.Still good to go Bro I heard that MK5 nid to pump premium fuel like RON97 just will perform better and? Is that true? |
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Jun 28 2015, 06:07 AM
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QUOTE(JrKhor @ Jun 28 2015, 12:49 AM) That means they don import CBU car already ka? Im not sure other dealer. But this is what salesperson from balakong said. Is that because of the sales not going well? Yea the bodykit I kinda like it, quite fancy man~Bro I heard that MK5 nid to pump premium fuel like RON97 just will perform better and? Is that true? This post has been edited by mozact89: Jun 28 2015, 06:07 AM |
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Jun 28 2015, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(JrKhor @ Jun 28 2015, 12:49 AM) That means they don import CBU car already ka? Im just using 95 all these long.97 will only effect when u remap and set it for 97 use only Is that because of the sales not going well? Yea the bodykit I kinda like it, quite fancy man~Bro I heard that MK5 nid to pump premium fuel like RON97 just will perform better and? Is that true? |
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Jun 29 2015, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(gunsnroses @ Jul 4 2014, 06:17 PM) Last time people drive Volkswagen they ask you about your success. Now they will ask you about your gearbox. haha |
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Jun 29 2015, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jun 26 2015, 05:44 PM) if the car breakdown also, i still feel satisfy after all i been done to my car... Previously im using turbo car, i have to service every 3k. But now, i change engine oil every 15k and also hentam that car kaw kaw..  Very clear image there. You took this photo yourself or someone else took the photo for you? Are you driving the Jetta? If yes, looks like you have not hit the top speed yet. |
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Jun 29 2015, 02:37 PM
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I've done 230 km/h with my Golf before at NSE.
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Jun 29 2015, 03:10 PM
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relative's polo's gearbox replaced last week.
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Jun 29 2015, 03:56 PM
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Sounds and looks like DSG problem is fixed?
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Jun 29 2015, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(linkin182 @ Jun 29 2015, 03:56 PM) Sounds and looks like DSG problem is fixed? Time to buy golf then hehe |
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Jun 29 2015, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(sgshuhu @ Jun 29 2015, 05:06 PM) Time to buy golf then hehe My colleague told me that her Golf MK7 two years old have some gearbox issue... But I believe that is just some small part of people out of many more people there. refer to Malaysia vehicle sales data for April 2015 by brand in Paultan This post has been edited by JrKhor: Jun 29 2015, 05:05 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Jun 29 2015, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE(katijar @ Jun 29 2015, 03:10 PM) relative's polo's gearbox replaced last week. Usually its not the gearbox but the mechatronics which is part of the gearbox that gets replaced.This post has been edited by Yapmy: Jun 29 2015, 05:19 PM |
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Jun 29 2015, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(JrKhor @ Jun 29 2015, 04:13 PM) My colleague told me that her Golf MK7 two years old have some gearbox issue... But I believe that is just some small part of people out of many more people there. Interesting figures from VW. Either after sales is picking up and reliability is improving.refer to Malaysia vehicle sales data for April 2015 by brand in Paultan |
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Jun 29 2015, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(Dwango @ Jun 29 2015, 01:08 PM) Very clear image there. You took this photo yourself or someone else took the photo for you? Are you driving the Jetta? If yes, looks like you have not hit the top speed yet. I think my top speed only 220kmh.. because change to rock 17inch rim.. very heavy.. If stock easily reach 200kmh. But now quite heavy.. Time to upgrade performance part.. Looking for jetex exhaust.. But price RM3400 make me think twice.. |
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Jun 29 2015, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(nancynotlousy @ Jun 29 2015, 12:38 PM) Polo Sedan are not with DSG gearbox issued.. therefore gearbox is steady since day one! Just using FRP bodykit by Airmaster.. Plan to change to GLI bumper, but when i think twice since have to leave car for 2 days to the shop for painting work to be done..Make me jealous only.... what bodykit? can show off abit? Any reason why Crosstouran, polo 1.2, polo 1.4 gti, bettle 1.4 n 2.0 these model was stop selling? |
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Jun 29 2015, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(nancynotlousy @ Jun 29 2015, 12:38 PM) Polo Sedan are not with DSG gearbox issued.. therefore gearbox is steady since day one! Make me jealous only.... what bodykit? can show off abit? Any reason why Crosstouran, polo 1.2, polo 1.4 gti, bettle 1.4 n 2.0 these model was stop selling?  Before paint the bottom lips..  |
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Jun 30 2015, 12:05 AM
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Haters will continue to hate... But so far this thread is the one which has so much lesser keyboard bashers...
Not sure why I missed this thread...as I was checking everywhere for some reviews or feedback from real owners... Took delivery over the weekend and been enjoying the car... Will bookmark this thread and hopefully more genuine feedback from everyone... |
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Jun 30 2015, 09:02 AM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jun 29 2015, 11:47 PM) Before paint the bottom lips..  QUOTE(earl-ku @ Jun 30 2015, 01:05 AM) Haters will continue to hate... But so far this thread is the one which has so much lesser keyboard bashers... Yea... Those keyboard warrior please stay away from this thread... We only need real owner feedback... Btw what car you bought? Not sure why I missed this thread...as I was checking everywhere for some reviews or feedback from real owners... Took delivery over the weekend and been enjoying the car... Will bookmark this thread and hopefully more genuine feedback from everyone... This post has been edited by JrKhor: Jun 30 2015, 09:03 AM |
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Jun 30 2015, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE(JrKhor @ Jun 30 2015, 09:02 AM) Nice bodykit man! How about change your headlamp? I think the LED one or the Audi style one quite nice leh~ Btw does upgrading the Mechatronic and use mineral oil really help? Did you got any info from your salesman or does you see less car that are waiting to be repair in SC? Haha~ I was actually planning to get a second hand Jetta or MK5... Took the passat bro ...Yea... Those keyboard warrior please stay away from this thread... We only need real owner feedback... Btw what car you bought? |
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Jun 30 2015, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE(earl-ku @ Jun 30 2015, 10:20 AM) Took the passat bro ... Congrats! I saw a black Passat the owner took out the chrome bar on the rear boot there, it makes the butt look nice!  QUOTE(semime @ Jun 30 2015, 12:32 PM) indeed! new VW Polo owner here.. Your Polo is 1.2 TSI or the 1.6 NA?bought it last year.. never encounter any big issue (touch wood) car performance best! like my car so much!  |
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Jun 30 2015, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(nancynotlousy @ Jun 29 2015, 02:30 PM) If I am not wrong POLO SEDAN only........ Don't think Polo 1.6 sedan can touch 200km/h with the low horsepower. of course with Jetta top speed 220 no issue!! |
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Jun 30 2015, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(Yapmy @ Jun 29 2015, 02:37 PM) I've done 230 km/h with my Golf before at NSE. Yours is low-spec Golf or the Golf GTI? The plain Golf's horsepower is not very high and top speed is indicated as 212km/h. |
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Jun 30 2015, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE(semime @ Jun 30 2015, 01:35 PM) 1.2 bro. 1.2 is nicer than 1.6 Indeed bro! and the butt of the sedan version from my own view I think it's quite ugly... Glad to hear that you don't encounter any issue! If you chip tune it I think it can almost fly like Jetta already LOL |
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Jun 30 2015, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(JrKhor @ Jun 30 2015, 12:50 PM) Indeed bro! and the butt of the sedan version from my own view I think it's quite ugly... Glad to hear that you don't encounter any issue! If you chip tune it I think it can almost fly like Jetta already LOL hahah fly like the one which hit the patrol car in pudu ... dont la ... |
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Jun 30 2015, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(earl-ku @ Jun 30 2015, 02:01 PM) hahah fly like the one which hit the patrol car in pudu ... dont la ... LOL~ I think it's Malaysia Patrol car need to upgrade man... Even SG using Volvo S80 for their Patrol car, I don't know how they gonna use Waja, Wira, or even Kancil to pursuit man But I'm not asking you to fly at city la~ go fly on PLUS |
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Jun 30 2015, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE(Dwango @ Jun 30 2015, 12:01 PM) Yours is low-spec Golf or the Golf GTI? The plain Golf's horsepower is not very high and top speed is indicated as 212km/h. Mine is the 1.4 Golf which is your "low spec" golf. You rather believe the spec sheet or real life experience? I went over 212 km/h many many times before during my 2 years of ownership. Quite pain seeing some stone chips at my bumper This post has been edited by Yapmy: Jun 30 2015, 01:52 PM |
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Jun 30 2015, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(Yapmy @ Jun 30 2015, 02:51 PM) Mine is the 1.4 Golf which is your "low spec" golf. You rather believe the spec sheet or real life experience? I went over 212 km/h many many times before during my 2 years of ownership. Quite pain seeing some stone chips at my bumper Go and do full body wrap lo |
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Jun 30 2015, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(Yapmy @ Jun 30 2015, 01:51 PM) Mine is the 1.4 Golf which is your "low spec" golf. You rather believe the spec sheet or real life experience? I went over 212 km/h many many times before during my 2 years of ownership. Quite pain seeing some stone chips at my bumper Not that I believe the specification rather than real life experience as I do know there will be discrepancy between the two. But I don't expect the difference to be up to 20km/h. And moreover, judging from the spec sheet, the horsepower of the Golf 1.4 TSI is only 140PS. Maybe the high torque of 250Nm may have contributed to the significantly higher top speed. Is the car stable at 230km/h? Man I haven't seriously tested the top speed of the Ford Focus yet. The last time I tried, I've got about 210km/h, holding onto the speed for about 2 seconds before I chicken-out and released the pedal. But I have to say the stability is good even at above 200km/h, very stable. For the VW which is German, I guess the stability would also be rock solid. Stone chips at the bumper, unavoidable but if on high speed cruising >110km/h, better stay a distance away from faster cars in front to avoid more serious chips. |
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Jun 30 2015, 02:29 PM
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Just read about Mercedes Benz C250 review and apparently the top speed is electronically-limited at 250km/h. I think this car would not only be fast and stable at above 200km/h but also quiet and comfortable. Read about the excellent NVH of the Merc.
Imagine driving at 230km/h but having the feel that the car is only doing 120km/h. |
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Jun 30 2015, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(Dwango @ Jun 30 2015, 02:22 PM) Not that I believe the specification rather than real life experience as I do know there will be discrepancy between the two. But I don't expect the difference to be up to 20km/h. And moreover, judging from the spec sheet, the horsepower of the Golf 1.4 TSI is only 140PS. Maybe the high torque of 250Nm may have contributed to the significantly higher top speed. If I remember correctly the road condition was slight decline for me to achieve 230km/h but nonetheless on level road the 1.4 can easily hit 220km/h without much difficulties. I've upgrade my rims to 17" and the car actually feels stable at high speed but lots of wind noise la.Is the car stable at 230km/h? Man I haven't seriously tested the top speed of the Ford Focus yet. The last time I tried, I've got about 210km/h, holding onto the speed for about 2 seconds before I chicken-out and released the pedal. But I have to say the stability is good even at above 200km/h, very stable. For the VW which is German, I guess the stability would also be rock solid. Stone chips at the bumper, unavoidable but if on high speed cruising >110km/h, better stay a distance away from faster cars in front to avoid more serious chips. QUOTE(JrKhor @ Jun 30 2015, 02:17 PM) Go and do full body wrap lo Very tempted. Will consider wrapping the front but I like my car's paint color. lolThis post has been edited by Yapmy: Jun 30 2015, 02:44 PM |
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Jul 4 2015, 09:18 PM
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I'm gonna book VW Passat 1.8 this monday, any best wishes from all of you out there?
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Jul 4 2015, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE(skut3r @ Jul 4 2015, 10:18 PM) I'm gonna book VW Passat 1.8 this monday, any best wishes from all of you out there? I can saw few Passat everyday bro, you are not alone if Passat has problem! HahahaBtw all the best bro, go ahead and buy one |
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Jul 4 2015, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(JrKhor @ Jul 4 2015, 09:33 PM) I can saw few Passat everyday bro, you are not alone if Passat has problem! Hahaha 1 week old passat here...Btw all the best bro, go ahead and buy one |
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Jul 5 2015, 12:21 AM
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Goidluck everybody.. Dun worry, just buy the car. Now with 0 interest n 0 down payment is a good deal..
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Jul 5 2015, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(skut3r @ Jul 4 2015, 09:18 PM) I'm gonna book VW Passat 1.8 this monday, any best wishes from all of you out there? Go ahead bro! |
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Jul 5 2015, 12:26 PM
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No worries bro!
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Jul 5 2015, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(skut3r @ Jul 4 2015, 09:18 PM) I'm gonna book VW Passat 1.8 this monday, any best wishes from all of you out there? hope to c u at the vw service center soon |
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Jul 5 2015, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(patheon17 @ Jul 5 2015, 04:42 PM) hope to c u at the vw service center soon Hahaha. |
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Jul 10 2015, 11:42 AM
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Buy buy and good luck with your purchase! Owner since 2012 here ;-P
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Jul 10 2015, 11:48 AM
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Now with 0 interest promotion it's really a good deal lol
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Jul 10 2015, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE(takr @ Jul 10 2015, 11:42 AM) Buy buy and good luck with your purchase! Owner since 2012 here ;-P How ur car, i heard some of 2012 model got this issue..Btw what car? Dsg 6 speed or 7? |
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Jul 10 2015, 01:36 PM
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Mines one of the last cbu Passat .. 7sp dsg, and yes it went kaput 2nd year. Apart from gearbox, speed sensor, battery dying no issue already.
It's a very nice car when it behaves Ps: quite shocked when I asked about tradein value last week.. 2nd hand shop take @ 75k only |
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Jul 10 2015, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(takr @ Jul 10 2015, 01:36 PM) Mines one of the last cbu Passat .. 7sp dsg, and yes it went kaput 2nd year. Apart from gearbox, speed sensor, battery dying no issue already. I think all conti car no 2nd value..dunno why..It's a very nice car when it behaves Ps: quite shocked when I asked about tradein value last week.. 2nd hand shop take @ 75k only |
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Jul 10 2015, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(takr @ Jul 10 2015, 01:36 PM) Mines one of the last cbu Passat .. 7sp dsg, and yes it went kaput 2nd year. Apart from gearbox, speed sensor, battery dying no issue already. It's a very nice car when it behaves Ps: quite shocked when I asked about tradein value last week.. 2nd hand shop take @ 75k only QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 10 2015, 01:38 PM) I think all conti car no 2nd value..dunno why.. Perhaps VW can persuade us to buy their car in the future with a good trade in program ... give it a year or 2 ... i would definitely consider changing to the new B8 or CC |
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Jul 11 2015, 11:34 PM
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Enjoyy.. |
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Jul 12 2015, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE(takr @ Jul 10 2015, 01:36 PM) Mines one of the last cbu Passat .. 7sp dsg, and yes it went kaput 2nd year. Apart from gearbox, speed sensor, battery dying no issue already. Passat Sport 75k only? :gulp: GG la like thisIt's a very nice car when it behaves Ps: quite shocked when I asked about tradein value last week.. 2nd hand shop take @ 75k only |
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Jul 12 2015, 12:58 AM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 11 2015, 11:34 PM) Enjoyy.. |
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Jul 12 2015, 02:06 AM
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QUOTE(Dwango @ Jul 12 2015, 12:58 AM) So the Jetta can achieve 7.2s in a 0-100km/h sprint. That is quite amazing as the official time is 8.3s. Any close-up shot of the speedometer such as the one shown in the video below? No closeup.. How they hang their camera there?? Like what i said, that just approximate. I calculate again around 7.45-7.52s.. This post has been edited by mozact89: Jul 12 2015, 02:08 AM |
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Jul 12 2015, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(towar @ Jul 12 2015, 11:33 AM) in the first place the speedo is usually calibrated a bit slower than actual speed. Gps speed is not really accurate in measuring acceleration speed. But constant speed will be more accurate..if u want accurate timing pls use gps-enabled app on your phone. |
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Jul 13 2015, 08:06 AM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 12 2015, 02:06 AM) No closeup.. How they hang their camera there?? No idea. Maybe the handphone was hung on the neck of the driver like a necklace or something. Like what i said, that just approximate. I calculate again around 7.45-7.52s.. Anyway, any car that can go below 8.0s in a 0-100km/h sprint can be considered as fast already. 7.5s is certainly impressive. I didn't know the Jetta is that fast. Certainly a sleeper car. |
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Jul 13 2015, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE(Dwango @ Jul 13 2015, 08:06 AM) No idea. Maybe the handphone was hung on the neck of the driver like a necklace or something. oh you have no idea how fast the jetta is ...Anyway, any car that can go below 8.0s in a 0-100km/h sprint can be considered as fast already. 7.5s is certainly impressive. I didn't know the Jetta is that fast. Certainly a sleeper car. a 1.4 TSI jetta is twincharged 160ps, its equivalent to the 1.8 TSI on the passat which is turbocharged only, producing the same power and torque |
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Jul 13 2015, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(takr @ Jul 10 2015, 02:36 PM) Mines one of the last cbu Passat .. 7sp dsg, and yes it went kaput 2nd year. Apart from gearbox, speed sensor, battery dying no issue already. Hi, so now your car don't have those issue u mentioned anymore after fixing it?It's a very nice car when it behaves Ps: quite shocked when I asked about tradein value last week.. 2nd hand shop take @ 75k only |
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Jul 13 2015, 12:58 PM
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with the price of the used car now for passat ... hmmm abit hailat
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Jul 13 2015, 01:49 PM
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Jetta won't be 7.2s century sprint. If it is, even an F30 320i will fall behind.
You need a proper electronic tool to even get close to the real figure. This is a Jetta with Passat's 1.8L turbo in the US, and 8.5 is as fast as it gets. The 1.4TSI should be similar or slower by a bit. This post has been edited by dtna7: Jul 13 2015, 01:49 PM |
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Jul 13 2015, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(dtna7 @ Jul 13 2015, 01:49 PM) Jetta won't be 7.2s century sprint. If it is, even an F30 320i will fall behind. well unless there is a twincharged 1.8LYou need a proper electronic tool to even get close to the real figure. This is a Jetta with Passat's 1.8L turbo in the US, and 8.5 is as fast as it gets. The 1.4TSI should be similar or slower by a bit. |
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Jul 13 2015, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(earl-ku @ Jul 13 2015, 10:07 AM) oh you have no idea how fast the jetta is ... 160 horsepower of the 1.4 TSI is not that high. I believe it is the torque that makes all the difference in the 0-100km/h acceleration time. a 1.4 TSI jetta is twincharged 160ps, its equivalent to the 1.8 TSI on the passat which is turbocharged only, producing the same power and torque I do know the Jetta is fast, though a bit surprised it can shave off almost 1 second off the official 0-100km/h time of 8.3s as shown on the VW technical specification page. |
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Jul 13 2015, 03:24 PM
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I plan to remap my jetta to stage 1. Maybe end of this year. Remap at VW service center. Eventhough its quite expensive, but the good is can kawtim to claim warranty.
After remap 1.4tsi can gain 193ps. I think it is quite enough already. If u read review from carbase, the jetta is quite impressive car. Eventhough hv a boring interior, but the spec is good for that price. |
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Jul 13 2015, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 13 2015, 03:24 PM) I plan to remap my jetta to stage 1. Maybe end of this year. Remap at VW service center. Eventhough its quite expensive, but the good is can kawtim to claim warranty. at the service center? how much is the cost bro?After remap 1.4tsi can gain 193ps. I think it is quite enough already. If u read review from carbase, the jetta is quite impressive car. Eventhough hv a boring interior, but the spec is good for that price. |
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Jul 13 2015, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(earl-ku @ Jul 13 2015, 03:33 PM) at the service center? how much is the cost bro? Rm2900 for vw jetta. Vw balakong.Ive been read alot that remap to stage 1 is worth it. I change exhaust cost rm3500 already. Damnn.. |
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Jul 13 2015, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(earl-ku @ Jul 13 2015, 03:33 PM) at the service center? how much is the cost bro? Rm2900 for vw jetta. Vw balakong.Ive been read alot that remap to stage 1 is worth it. I change exhaust cost rm3500 already. Damnn.. |
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Jul 14 2015, 02:35 AM
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Wat u are talking about mus be ProArt Tuning
they are germans and they are quite good @ tuning VWs they are station @ VW Balakong with win hing autohause i think My golf R did REVO, u can try also from MYF Motorsport Did some runs on go pros for the exhaust also Here is it Golf R Ori Exhaust Clip Golf R with milltek 3" and here is my friend's Jetta with a Remus Cat-Back Jetta with Remus Cat-Back Quite good sound i mus say from the jetta |
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Jul 14 2015, 05:32 AM
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QUOTE(Atoms @ Jul 14 2015, 02:35 AM) Wat u are talking about mus be ProArt Tuning Yes bro.. I see on the price list wrote ProArt.they are germans and they are quite good @ tuning VWs they are station @ VW Balakong with win hing autohause i think My golf R did REVO, u can try also from MYF Motorsport Did some runs on go pros for the exhaust also Here is it Golf R Ori Exhaust Clip Golf R with milltek 3" and here is my friend's Jetta with a Remus Cat-Back Jetta with Remus Cat-Back Quite good sound i mus say from the jetta |
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Jul 14 2015, 05:34 AM
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Bro did the remus to loud?
Jetex inside cabin sound is good.. Waifu approve👍.. Haha |
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Jul 14 2015, 09:35 AM
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QUOTE(JrKhor @ Jul 13 2015, 11:00 AM) Hi, so now your car don't have those issue u mentioned anymore after fixing it? The car is mechanically sound - touch wood! Just passed 60k mark... Just have to content with the various stone chips on the paintQUOTE(nancynotlousy @ Jul 13 2015, 12:50 PM) Glad that it solved your car issued! anyway trade in for RM75k is reasonable la! market nowadays all car 2nd selling value is just the same. Plus further more, if you plan to trade in your car for 2nd hand shop of course they want to untung banyak sedikit that why so low! Anyway I saw from Motor trader 2012 VOLKSWAGEN PASSAT 1.8T is still selling at RM90k. I believe it goes all the same to others car! like Accord, Camry or Teana... the value are just the same! Yalor.. I saja saja check the market value / trade in since I was renewing road tax+insurance. Good deterrent to change car so fast also |
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Jul 14 2015, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 13 2015, 04:24 PM) I plan to remap my jetta to stage 1. Maybe end of this year. Remap at VW service center. Eventhough its quite expensive, but the good is can kawtim to claim warranty. I though the maximum capable torque for GB DQ200 in Jetta is 250Nm?After remap 1.4tsi can gain 193ps. I think it is quite enough already. If u read review from carbase, the jetta is quite impressive car. Eventhough hv a boring interior, but the spec is good for that price. |
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Jul 14 2015, 10:34 AM
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If creeping contributes to GB problems, will it help if you keep the gear in 1 or 2 during traffic jams?
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Jul 14 2015, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(ionStorm @ Jul 14 2015, 10:34 AM) If creeping contributes to GB problems, will it help if you keep the gear in 1 or 2 during traffic jams? move to manual - and up shift urself ...and creeping is letting the car move by itself when the gear is engage in D rite ... This post has been edited by earl-ku: Jul 14 2015, 10:35 AM |
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Jul 14 2015, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(JrKhor @ Jul 14 2015, 09:56 AM) I though the maximum capable torque for GB DQ200 in Jetta is 250Nm? I just saw on pro art fb. They did remap on passat 1.8tsi increase HP to 282hp torque 320nm.Same dq200 gbox. |
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Jul 14 2015, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 14 2015, 10:35 AM) I just saw on pro art fb. They did remap on passat 1.8tsi increase HP to 282hp torque 320nm. bro in Malaysia? whats the link to the pro art fb page? found nothing ...Same dq200 gbox. |
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Jul 14 2015, 10:40 AM
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380Nm not 320..
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Jul 14 2015, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(earl-ku @ Jul 14 2015, 10:37 AM) bro in Malaysia? whats the link to the pro art fb page? found nothing ... Pro art motorsport fb page i dunno malaysia or oversea one.. |
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QUOTE(nancynotlousy @ Jul 13 2015, 12:43 PM) Cool!! well.. you never drive a Jetta b4. of course you don't know! you go can try to look around any 1.6L engine can get such acceleration??!! then you know what is speed car what is sleeper car! QUOTE(Dwango @ Jul 13 2015, 02:49 PM) 160 horsepower of the 1.4 TSI is not that high. I believe it is the torque that makes all the difference in the 0-100km/h acceleration time. the answer is stock jetta cannot do 7.x seconds. its either already tuned , or the guy using imprecise measurement like hand-held stopwatch. I do know the Jetta is fast, though a bit surprised it can shave off almost 1 second off the official 0-100km/h time of 8.3s as shown on the VW technical specification page. QUOTE(ionStorm @ Jul 14 2015, 10:34 AM) If creeping contributes to GB problems, will it help if you keep the gear in 1 or 2 during traffic jams? QUOTE(earl-ku @ Jul 14 2015, 10:35 AM) move to manual - and up shift urself ... to preserve the clutch , put it in neutral when u are stopped. use the handbrake on slopes if necessary. and creeping is letting the car move by itself when the gear is engage in D rite ... |
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QUOTE(earl-ku @ Jul 14 2015, 10:35 AM) move to manual - and up shift urself ... Ah. I thought creeping was just leaving the gears engaged, not necessarily in D. and creeping is letting the car move by itself when the gear is engage in D rite ... But yeah. If change to manual and shift yourself then it should be less stressful on the GB and less jerky right? |
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Jul 14 2015, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(sootienann @ Jul 14 2015, 10:57 AM) the answer is stock jetta cannot do 7.x seconds. its either already tuned , or the guy using imprecise measurement like hand-held stopwatch. yeah thats my practice since driving an auto for the past 7 - 8 years ... when stationary change to Nto preserve the clutch , put it in neutral when u are stopped. use the handbrake on slopes if necessary. but this car is heavy, most of the time - my foot on brake and didnt notice its still in D |
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Jul 14 2015, 11:21 AM
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My passat when start in the morning seems to be vibrating quite strong ... anyone having the same?
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QUOTE(earl-ku @ Jul 14 2015, 11:21 AM) My passat when start in the morning seems to be vibrating quite strong ... anyone having the same? Normally cold start is like this but it should be back to normal after 10secs of idling. |
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 14 2015, 10:35 AM) I just saw on pro art fb. They did remap on passat 1.8tsi increase HP to 282hp torque 320nm. lol u wan risk ur unreliable 7 speed gb? of coz it cn work in dynos, but after a while u driving it the gearbox sure cnt withstand n spoilSame dq200 gbox. |
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Jul 14 2015, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Jul 14 2015, 02:46 PM) lol u wan risk ur unreliable 7 speed gb? of coz it cn work in dynos, but after a while u driving it the gearbox sure cnt withstand n spoil Anybody had tuned their car to greater Nm than the Max Nm that can be handle by their GB and still working fine? |
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Jul 14 2015, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(Yapmy @ Jul 14 2015, 01:45 PM) Normally cold start is like this but it should be back to normal after 10secs of idling. yeah it does ... but the unusually high vibration can be felt from the cabin ... from the outside basedon the sound on the engine, it does goes back down after 10 secs |
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Jul 14 2015, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Jul 14 2015, 01:46 PM) lol u wan risk ur unreliable 7 speed gb? of coz it cn work in dynos, but after a while u driving it the gearbox sure cnt withstand n spoil Vw give warranty.. If spoil ask them to change back.. |
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Jul 14 2015, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Jul 14 2015, 01:46 PM) lol u wan risk ur unreliable 7 speed gb? of coz it cn work in dynos, but after a while u driving it the gearbox sure cnt withstand n spoil are u sure? |
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Jul 14 2015, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 14 2015, 02:53 PM) Vw give warranty.. If spoil ask them to change back.. yeah lets mod to stage 3 ihi turbo then claim warranty if anything goes wrong. stupidest comment ever. |
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Jul 14 2015, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 14 2015, 02:53 PM) Vw give warranty.. If spoil ask them to change back.. first 2 years mayb cn, on 3rd year onwards u try to claim n c if they change for u or ntthen 5th year onwards prepare 50k at least ya |
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Jul 14 2015, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(sootienann @ Jul 14 2015, 03:09 PM) yeah lets mod to stage 3 ihi turbo then claim warranty if anything goes wrong. stupidest comment ever. Wow. Many star but dunno how to respect others..Ur words determine urself.. |
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Jul 14 2015, 04:49 PM
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No cabin drone on the Jetta with remus
Damn nice sound i like alot on my friend's car and some word of advise If wan mod dun scare warranty If wan scare warranty dun mod |
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Jul 14 2015, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(Atoms @ Jul 14 2015, 04:49 PM) No cabin drone on the Jetta with remus Yup. Agree with u..Damn nice sound i like alot on my friend's car and some word of advise If wan mod dun scare warranty If wan scare warranty dun mod |
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Jul 15 2015, 07:45 AM
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QUOTE(sootienann @ Jul 14 2015, 10:57 AM) the answer is stock jetta cannot do 7.x seconds. its either already tuned , or the guy using imprecise measurement like hand-held stopwatch. Okay, good to know.to preserve the clutch , put it in neutral when u are stopped. use the handbrake on slopes if necessary. |
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Jul 15 2015, 08:32 AM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 14 2015, 03:53 PM) Vw give warranty.. If spoil ask them to change back.. How many years of the warranty? 1 year? |
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Jul 15 2015, 09:01 AM
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QUOTE(JrKhor @ Jul 15 2015, 08:32 AM) How many years of the warranty? 1 year? I believe the warranty is by mileage if you're referring to the gearbox?I think it is 100k km if I'm not mistaken, I could be wrong. |
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Jul 15 2015, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(linkin182 @ Jul 15 2015, 10:01 AM) I believe the warranty is by mileage if you're referring to the gearbox? I see... Cause if I'm not mistaken ABT give 1 or 2 year warranty lol~ And I think by mileage is better than year in terms of warranty I think it is 100k km if I'm not mistaken, I could be wrong. This post has been edited by JrKhor: Jul 15 2015, 10:47 AM |
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Jul 15 2015, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE(JrKhor @ Jul 15 2015, 08:32 AM) How many years of the warranty? 1 year? I mean, they can kawtim with the vw warranty. And only can be claim at that service centre. |
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Jul 15 2015, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Jul 14 2015, 03:49 PM) first 2 years mayb cn, on 3rd year onwards u try to claim n c if they change for u or nt not that bad la! So 5 years onward it is time to upgrade your car! then 5th year onwards prepare 50k at least ya compared to last time the 3rd warranty is more easy to be claim as you only need to go through the VW service man and no need to go through by the adjuster! QUOTE(JrKhor @ Jul 15 2015, 08:32 AM) How many years of the warranty? 1 year? 2 + 3 total 5 year for VW |
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Jul 15 2015, 08:09 PM
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warranty is 5 years laaa...
and i know of a jetta owner who is running stage 2 map around town putting about 176PS/280NM to the wheels and track his car regularly... macam no problem only i see he drive... |
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Jul 15 2015, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jul 15 2015, 08:09 PM) warranty is 5 years laaa... Bro, just asking. How come stage 2 just hv 176ps/280Nm? I ve been told by proArt stage 1 already can get 193ps?and i know of a jetta owner who is running stage 2 map around town putting about 176PS/280NM to the wheels and track his car regularly... macam no problem only i see he drive... |
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Jul 16 2015, 12:00 AM
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thats on engine la dei....
edit: i mean the 193ps is on engine... on wheel is totally different as u need to account for transmission loss... btw stage 1 193ps? who told u that? that fella must be high... This post has been edited by kcng: Jul 16 2015, 12:02 AM |
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Jul 16 2015, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jul 16 2015, 12:00 AM) thats on engine la dei.... On paper at VW balakong. Stage 1 from proArt.edit: i mean the 193ps is on engine... on wheel is totally different as u need to account for transmission loss... btw stage 1 193ps? who told u that? that fella must be high... Maybe ur friend already did dyno. |
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Jul 16 2015, 12:16 AM
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But stock 160ps, if stage 2 172ps, not so much different..
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Jul 16 2015, 03:58 AM
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on wheel HP and on crank HP different bro
normally on wheel will have 15% to 20% less than on crank cause of power loss @ the drivetrain normally 4wd or awd car have more power loss than front or rear wheel coz output to 1 more axle so lets jus say proart say got 193ps on crank and that would translate to about 164PS to 144PS on wheels depending on dyno used the guy on 176PS on wheel would have about 202PS-220PS on crank |
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Jul 16 2015, 05:45 AM
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QUOTE(Atoms @ Jul 16 2015, 03:58 AM) on wheel HP and on crank HP different bro Tq for ur explanation bro..normally on wheel will have 15% to 20% less than on crank cause of power loss @ the drivetrain normally 4wd or awd car have more power loss than front or rear wheel coz output to 1 more axle so lets jus say proart say got 193ps on crank and that would translate to about 164PS to 144PS on wheels depending on dyno used the guy on 176PS on wheel would have about 202PS-220PS on crank |
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Jul 16 2015, 05:51 AM
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My new video.. |
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Jul 16 2015, 09:45 AM
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thats why before going down the modding route... please at least know what u are doing first...
dont take everything at face value... btw remember this... there is no replacement for displacement... turbo or not... |
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Jul 16 2015, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jul 16 2015, 09:45 AM) thats why before going down the modding route... please at least know what u are doing first... What car u use bro? U mod also? U seem know a lot?dont take everything at face value... btw remember this... there is no replacement for displacement... turbo or not... |
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Jul 16 2015, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 16 2015, 10:33 AM) What car u use bro? U mod also? U seem know a lot? kcng is our legend yoyou must bow when you see him!  |
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Jul 16 2015, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(babyk @ Jul 16 2015, 10:43 AM) kcng is our legend yo Sorry sifu kcng ... Hahaha..you must bow when you see him! |
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Jul 16 2015, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(babyk @ Jul 16 2015, 10:43 AM) kcng is our legend yo hoi !!you must bow when you see him! dun simply say... u more sifu then me.... |
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Jul 16 2015, 11:01 AM
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Thats why i heard a250 on paper said 220hp but when dyno only get 170hp only.. Is it true?
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Jul 16 2015, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(singenggoulee @ Jul 16 2015, 11:52 AM) my opinion -> dun modify your car until that scary.. Ya lo, thats what was mentioned by earlier post.my concern is still worry, after you modify your car your warranty will be voided! If wanna mod, dont scare warranty. If scare warranty, dont mod. But the manufacturers created TSI > GTi > R for a reason. You pay more for the mod for the warranty. |
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Jul 16 2015, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(singenggoulee @ Jul 16 2015, 11:52 AM) my opinion -> dun modify your car until that scary.. Now i heard that SC been blacklist from warranty due to remap.. damn..my concern is still worry, after you modify your car your warranty will be voided! |
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Jul 16 2015, 02:27 PM
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your hear is from who?
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Jul 16 2015, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jul 16 2015, 02:27 PM) your hear is from who? My friend who using gti.. He do alot with his gti. stage 2 already. Now running on 250hp 380Nm. Is it true that SC already been blacklist?? Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Jul 16 2015, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(nancynotlousy @ Jul 16 2015, 02:35 PM) Actually Passat is already very super powerful, why still need for modication. They claim if remap with them, no problem to claim warranty. They will map to original setting before claim warranty.Again all the while, if you remap back into factory mode - the warranty will not void. But if you remap the car that different from the factory mode - stage 1 or so on the warranty will be automatically void. The once the warranty void, you guys will start complain VW simply void your warranty, which is unfair to you. In fact, I wish to modify my Jetta as well, it sound nice but too bad I got no balls. That why, I keep back into original |
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Jul 16 2015, 02:53 PM
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this kinda hear-say is sensitive... so i rather not comment
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Jul 16 2015, 06:25 PM
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Told u aldy, mod aldy u cannot go and demand for warranty if they say your warranty void
Jus remember if the sc say no to warranty wat would u do? If u going to bang table and demand for it then good luck to u. Jus dun mod better If u think u can cheat like remapping bak also good luck to u coz vw technician are not dumb And normally your ecu refresh counter will jump so yea they have proof If they claim for u after u mod is also becuz of their good will towards customers I mod my R fully knowing i have void my warranty So anything i will jus have to pay it myself Its fair to every party So after mod take care of ur car better lor, change ur oil earlier, make sure to check be4 every journey etc... |
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Jul 16 2015, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(Atoms @ Jul 16 2015, 06:25 PM) Told u aldy, mod aldy u cannot go and demand for warranty if they say your warranty void that is what my friend told me. Change oil earlier. Do not wait 15k..Jus remember if the sc say no to warranty wat would u do? If u going to bang table and demand for it then good luck to u. Jus dun mod better If u think u can cheat like remapping bak also good luck to u coz vw technician are not dumb And normally your ecu refresh counter will jump so yea they have proof If they claim for u after u mod is also becuz of their good will towards customers I mod my R fully knowing i have void my warranty So anything i will jus have to pay it myself Its fair to every party So after mod take care of ur car better lor, change ur oil earlier, make sure to check be4 every journey etc... |
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Jul 20 2015, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 16 2015, 02:41 PM) They claim if remap with them, no problem to claim warranty. They will map to original setting before claim warranty. that's sounds like obvious hanky-panky and undertable scheme. |
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Jul 24 2015, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jun 29 2015, 10:47 PM) Before paint the bottom lips.. Also hope you know the Euro band abbreviation for the UK is GB. This post has been edited by secondrate: Jul 24 2015, 02:57 PM |
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Jul 24 2015, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE(secondrate @ Jul 24 2015, 02:56 PM) Red stripe would be nice I just play2 only with the sticker. I want MY but cannot find..Also hope you know the Euro band abbreviation for the UK is GB. |
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Jul 24 2015, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Jul 24 2015, 07:18 PM) I just play2 only with the sticker. I want MY but cannot find.. Owh, shame. I was wondering why UK also, normally German car owners go for Germany. |
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Jul 24 2015, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(secondrate @ Jul 24 2015, 07:49 PM) Owh, shame. I was wondering why UK also, normally German car owners go for Germany. Ulu klang.. |
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Oct 26 2015, 10:23 AM
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sorry for bump-ing old thread....
few question to ask 1# so the mineral oil solved the DQ200 DSG problem? 2# should i get 2nd hand golf mk6 Gti or Tsi...i love this car bcoz the LOOK not the SPEED...just saw some ppl saying wet 6DSG less issue then dry 7DSG....but is mineral oil already solved the problem...i will go for tsi terlus la XD 3# if i bought 2nd hand VW...should i go back SC to service my car or any workshop also can? that's all guys .... thanks alot! btw why not MK7? sorry ...i no like the look & design... |
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Oct 26 2015, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(twk4924 @ Oct 26 2015, 10:23 AM) sorry for bump-ing old thread.... As far as I know, yes. Mineral does greatly reduces the chances for a mechatronic failure and driving manual mode in jams/hills helps as well. However, not sure about the reliability of the 1.4 twincharged engines as some owners reported to have piston and coil pack issues. few question to ask 1# so the mineral oil solved the DQ200 DSG problem? 2# should i get 2nd hand golf mk6 Gti or Tsi...i love this car bcoz the LOOK not the SPEED...just saw some ppl saying wet 6DSG less issue then dry 7DSG....but is mineral oil already solved the problem...i will go for tsi terlus la XD 3# if i bought 2nd hand VW...should i go back SC to service my car or any workshop also can? that's all guys .... thanks alot! btw why not MK7? sorry ...i no like the look & design... If car is under warranty for sure it needs to be sent back to authorized SCs to maintain the warranty. |
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Oct 26 2015, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE(Yapmy @ Oct 26 2015, 10:37 AM) As far as I know, yes. Mineral does greatly reduces the chances for a mechatronic failure and driving manual mode in jams/hills helps as well. However, not sure about the reliability of the 1.4 twincharged engines as some owners reported to have piston and coil pack issues. okay thanks for reply!If car is under warranty for sure it needs to be sent back to authorized SCs to maintain the warranty. im still cant decide which one to go....>< tsi cheaper alot gti less problem with wet dsg  |
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Oct 26 2015, 04:09 PM
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wow Jetta
after 2 month own sylphy i wanted to trade in my just buy car to get Jetta(but never happen after get home sleep on idea.. think how fool i am if do so) xxx by way SA VW soo Cool!!This post has been edited by Unseen83: Oct 26 2015, 04:10 PM |
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Oct 26 2015, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Oct 26 2015, 04:09 PM) wow Jetta Why not? after 2 month own sylphy i wanted to trade in my just buy car to get Jetta(but never happen after get home sleep on idea.. think how fool i am if do so) xxx by way SA VW soo Cool!! Jetta very powerful car for fast pickup you won't regret it. Get the car you want, you only live once! You test drive Jetta oredi? The VW SA soo cool is female? |
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Oct 26 2015, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(twk4924 @ Oct 26 2015, 10:23 AM) sorry for bump-ing old thread.... If u have money. Go straight gti la bro.. Tsi after sometimes u feel not enough laa. Hehefew question to ask 1# so the mineral oil solved the DQ200 DSG problem? 2# should i get 2nd hand golf mk6 Gti or Tsi...i love this car bcoz the LOOK not the SPEED...just saw some ppl saying wet 6DSG less issue then dry 7DSG....but is mineral oil already solved the problem...i will go for tsi terlus la XD 3# if i bought 2nd hand VW...should i go back SC to service my car or any workshop also can? that's all guys .... thanks alot! btw why not MK7? sorry ...i no like the look & design... I no money thats why i buy jetta. Hehe Gti mk6 around 100-120k can get. Mk7 around 160-170k. |
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Oct 26 2015, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Oct 26 2015, 04:41 PM) If u have money. Go straight gti la bro.. Tsi after sometimes u feel not enough laa. Hehe Lol ....tsi should enough for me xDI no money thats why i buy jetta. Hehe Gti mk6 around 100-120k can get. Mk7 around 160-170k. I had smaller ball to speeding on the road xD I love golf mk6 because of design only bro ~_~ So mineral oil solved dsg failure ... May i ask....does 1.4tsi still got any common problem???? Like piston crack , sudden break down etc etc |
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Oct 26 2015, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(twk4924 @ Oct 26 2015, 08:30 PM) Lol ....tsi should enough for me xD I cannot comment much since i think most of ckd car still not effected yet.. Ckd production start on 2014. I had smaller ball to speeding on the road xD I love golf mk6 because of design only bro ~_~ So mineral oil solved dsg failure ... May i ask....does 1.4tsi still got any common problem???? Like piston crack , sudden break down etc etc But most of my friend jetta didnt face any piston problem yet even mileage already 120k. Just use ron 97 and dont use 95. After i upgrade my car, i never pump 95 anymore. Just using 97 eventhough i set my car on ron 95 during remap. Bro just go gti mk6. No tsi if got budget.. |
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Oct 27 2015, 02:38 AM
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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Oct 26 2015, 04:37 PM) Why not? ya power.. but i can't already buy car... got 55month to go on loan. Jetta very powerful car for fast pickup you won't regret it. Get the car you want, you only live once! You test drive Jetta oredi? The VW SA soo cool is female? SA not female... is obese guy like me but with less muscle.. he smell like ash tray.. i meant cool like the guy is honest said what wrong with VW and it's plus/minus. |
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Oct 27 2015, 08:07 AM
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Oct 27 2015, 02:38 AM) ya power.. but i can't already buy car... got 55month to go on loan. My VW SA also being honest to me regarding all the problem about the jetta. Thats why im suddenly choosing jetta rather than sylphy. SA not female... is obese guy like me but with less muscle.. he smell like ash tray.. i meant cool like the guy is honest said what wrong with VW and it's plus/minus. My sylphy SA also good, come from kepong to meet me at tupai2 restaurant. But then when i want to cancel, then he sengaja slow the process. I finally email to tanchong. After 3 week get back my booking refund. |
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Oct 27 2015, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Oct 26 2015, 09:54 PM) I cannot comment much since i think most of ckd car still not effected yet.. Ckd production start on 2014. okay~ thanks for sharing bro But most of my friend jetta didnt face any piston problem yet even mileage already 120k. Just use ron 97 and dont use 95. After i upgrade my car, i never pump 95 anymore. Just using 97 eventhough i set my car on ron 95 during remap. Bro just go gti mk6. No tsi if got budget.. if gti mk6 which manufacture year u prefer ? |
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Oct 27 2015, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Oct 27 2015, 08:07 AM) My VW SA also being honest to me regarding all the problem about the jetta. Thats why im suddenly choosing jetta rather than sylphy. Hated SA that are hard selling. Hard to find good SA also. I remember one SA hard selling like: "this car very safe. you see the seat belt, got safety feature when emergency stop will hold you back." I would imagine the next feature will be the brakes, when you press it, the car will stop lol.My sylphy SA also good, come from kepong to meet me at tupai2 restaurant. But then when i want to cancel, then he sengaja slow the process. I finally email to tanchong. After 3 week get back my booking refund. |
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Oct 27 2015, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(twk4924 @ Oct 27 2015, 09:48 AM) okay~ thanks for sharing bro Get the latest batch la. 2012 if im not mistaken. if gti mk6 which manufacture year u prefer ? |
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Oct 27 2015, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Oct 27 2015, 10:20 AM) Get the latest batch la. 2012 if im not mistaken. okay~ thank bro~ |
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Oct 27 2015, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Oct 27 2015, 08:07 AM) My VW SA also being honest to me regarding all the problem about the jetta. Thats why im suddenly choosing jetta rather than sylphy. eh i got Nissan SA is okay... not good.. xx i just go4 fast approve, Nissan it is than... (in 24hour) i also go Honda(jual mahal.. laugh at my pesona)/BMW(2-3 week to get approve ?? time call back said okay to buy their car i driving new car) /Proton(so weird trade-in Own brand also Lowest offer among all My sylphy SA also good, come from kepong to meet me at tupai2 restaurant. But then when i want to cancel, then he sengaja slow the process. I finally email to tanchong. After 3 week get back my booking refund. lowest discount for Inspira..) meanwhile VW i go there by mistake.. they not even in my radar... until i stop by pay loan next door got VW and there promo on window... said" no deposit/o% interest%  i go in.. test drive Jetta... x |
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Oct 27 2015, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Oct 27 2015, 09:55 AM) Hated SA that are hard selling. Hard to find good SA also. I remember one SA hard selling like: "this car very safe. you see the seat belt, got safety feature when emergency stop will hold you back." I would imagine the next feature will be the brakes, when you press it, the car will stop lol. He didn't lie. He just sked you tak faham. Need to explain clearly....lol |
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Oct 29 2015, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(sykang @ Oct 29 2015, 03:49 PM) so how is it? any feedback after u tested drive jetta? fast.. responsive engine.. eat fuel like me drink milo x |
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Oct 30 2015, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Oct 29 2015, 05:35 PM) fast.. responsive engine.. eat fuel like me drink milo Jetta supposed to have very good FC. You couldn't tell with just a test drive.xAnyway you already bought your Slyphy with body kit and all so why go and test drive Jetta? An NA car's performance isn't going to compare favourably with a turbocharged car. It's like flirting with a beautiful woman just after you got married. And when you find that she's available go home and spend sleepless nights. Remember you are married to your car for the next 5 years. Any divorce is extremely financially painful! |
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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Oct 30 2015, 09:45 AM) Jetta supposed to have very good FC. You couldn't tell with just a test drive. look i give Jetta faster car with it Turbocharge /injection. good promo(no Deposit/Interest)... x but surely not perfect.. VW Sale mans admit to me Fuel is big compare to my current car.. so this is why i say i respect VW SA.. Anyway you already bought your Slyphy with body kit and all so why go and test drive Jetta? An NA car's performance isn't going to compare favourably with a turbocharged car. It's like flirting with a beautiful woman just after you got married. And when you find that she's available go home and spend sleepless nights. Remember you are married to your car for the next 5 years. Any divorce is extremely financially painful! xx honest performance my 16-valve DOHC, naturally-aspirated with variable valve timing Defo be defeated !! but FC hard to beat 8KM for 1L.. Drive Parit Raja Johor to KB Kelantan Single pump Ron95xxThis post has been edited by Unseen83: Oct 30 2015, 04:54 PM |
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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Oct 27 2015, 09:55 AM) Hated SA that are hard selling. Hard to find good SA also. I remember one SA hard selling like: "this car very safe. you see the seat belt, got safety feature when emergency stop will hold you back." I would imagine the next feature will be the brakes, when you press it, the car will stop lol. haha..so sarcasting... |
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Oct 30 2015, 04:29 PM) look i give Jetta faster car with it Turbocharge /injection. good promo(no Deposit/Interest)... x but surely not perfect.. VW Sale mans admit to me Fuel is big compare to my current car.. so this is why i say i respect VW SA.. If you want to compare cruising FC..I can tell you I did KL-Penang -KL...all in 1 tank in a Jetta before. Speed at120kph. 600km plus round trip. xx honest performance my 16-valve DOHC, naturally-aspirated with variable valve timing Defo be defeated !! but FC hard to beat 8KM for 1L.. Drive Parit Raja Johor to KB Kelantan Single pump Ron95xxThe time makan minyak is when you keep having to stop and go. But I wont recommend the 1.4 engine TSI twincharger...for 1 simple reason. Ignition coil pack failure is so freaking frequent |
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Oct 30 2015, 05:18 PM) If you want to compare cruising FC..I can tell you I did KL-Penang -KL...all in 1 tank in a Jetta before. Speed at120kph. 600km plus round trip. KL to Penang 360KM (one way, so of course GO/BACK 710KM) JB to Kelantan KB is 650KM One way. come back 1,200KM+ .xThe time makan minyak is when you keep having to stop and go. But I wont recommend the 1.4 engine TSI twincharger...for 1 simple reason. Ignition coil pack failure is so freaking frequent but no matter what i say JETTA is perfect.. for you and of course u add this to justify your not bias toward your own car.. sure.. not recomend i already buy sylphy.. on here saying Jetta is good i almost willing sell it off(new ) but sleep over i waste money..xx "But I wont recommend the 1.4 engine TSI twincharger...for 1 simple reason. Ignition coil pack failure is so freaking frequent" |
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Oct 30 2015, 04:29 PM) look i give Jetta faster car with it Turbocharge /injection. good promo(no Deposit/Interest)... x but surely not perfect.. VW Sale mans admit to me Fuel is big compare to my current car.. so this is why i say i respect VW SA.. Come on la brother, 1.4TSI produce more hp than a 2.0NA car and more torque than a 2.4 NA car. xx honest performance my 16-valve DOHC, naturally-aspirated with variable valve timing Defo be defeated !! but FC hard to beat 8KM for 1L.. Drive Parit Raja Johor to KB Kelantan Single pump Ron95xxWhat do you expect the FC be ? |
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Oct 31 2015, 09:59 AM) Come on la brother, 1.4TSI produce more hp than a 2.0NA car and more torque than a 2.4 NA car. Whats good about this jetta, fc depend on ur foot.. If u know how to control ur foot, u will get better fc ( i got 17.3km/l and 750km the fuel light start blinking). What do you expect the FC be ? But if ur kaki cannot tahan one, fc will get worst which is below 10km/l. Im on my stage 1, aftermarket exhaust, aftermarket airfilter, golf R ic, i got 191whp 280nm on dyno, u feel like drive GTI already.. But the fc still remain the same if u can control ur kaki la.. |
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Oct 31 2015, 09:59 AM) Come on la brother, 1.4TSI produce more hp than a 2.0NA car and more torque than a 2.4 NA car. totally agree bro, respect how much vw squeeze out a 1.4 engine's capability.. What do you expect the FC be ? want to talk about fc.. pakai kete hybrid This post has been edited by heavensea: Oct 31 2015, 05:29 PM |
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Oct 31 2015, 04:20 PM) Whats good about this jetta, fc depend on ur foot.. If u know how to control ur foot, u will get better fc ( i got 17.3km/l and 750km the fuel light start blinking). agree about the foot part, if turbo car drive like a sissy on highway.. the fc is quite impress even though compared to na engine.But if ur kaki cannot tahan one, fc will get worst which is below 10km/l. Im on my stage 1, aftermarket exhaust, aftermarket airfilter, golf R ic, i got 191whp 280nm on dyno, u feel like drive GTI already.. But the fc still remain the same if u can control ur kaki la.. 191hp on wheel... sudah flash ecu? or plug in racechip?? |
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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Oct 27 2015, 09:55 AM) Hated SA that are hard selling. Hard to find good SA also. I remember one SA hard selling like: "this car very safe. you see the seat belt, got safety feature when emergency stop will hold you back." I would imagine the next feature will be the brakes, when you press it, the car will stop lol. The sa could refer to the seat belt pretensioner, which indeed was quite rare a while back. |
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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Oct 30 2015, 09:45 AM) Jetta supposed to have very good FC. You couldn't tell with just a test drive. malaysian ma ....... what to do, once test they know better than owner ....Anyway you already bought your Slyphy with body kit and all so why go and test drive Jetta? An NA car's performance isn't going to compare favourably with a turbocharged car. It's like flirting with a beautiful woman just after you got married. And when you find that she's available go home and spend sleepless nights. Remember you are married to your car for the next 5 years. Any divorce is extremely financially painful! |
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Oct 31 2015, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Oct 31 2015, 09:59 AM) Come on la brother, 1.4TSI produce more hp than a 2.0NA car and more torque than a 2.4 NA car. ya.. turbo charge fuel injection... x is like 1.6 Dig Turbo (by Nissan) but sadly sold only in Singapore.. Sylphy SSS TurboWhat do you expect the FC be ? |
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Nov 2 2015, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(singenggoulee @ Nov 2 2015, 10:11 AM) Actually most of the car have the same safety feature. To see the car safe or not, refer to NCAP - see how many star they have.. for you to determine which car is safe. A good salesman will be one who is truthful, telling you what are the known problems of the car and how to take care of it. Being knowledgable on every aspect of the car they are selling. That's good enough.By the way, having a good sales tactic still cannot claimed as good SA. Further more, it is SA duty to hard sell.... For me, a good SA must also able to assist you or being responsible enuff when your car have trouble/problem. So before you want to buy a car, give them some trouble, see whether this SA can able to solve your problem in good way for you to value this is good SA or not. |
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QUOTE(nancynotlousy @ Nov 2 2015, 10:25 AM) FC depends how you press the oil pedal. Mainly why I love Jetta mainly because with 1.4l engine that performance greater than car with 1.8l anytime. Further more, the fuel consumption is not that bad as you think. FC is very good then as my passat 70L, gets me bout 650km, 70% city and 30% highwah, and i pump when light blinks, likely still have 100km range on it as per the onboard computer ...My Jetta with full tank can tahan until about 700km ++. and I drive in city and highway all the time la! In City - I am a typical ah soh driver Highway - I drive like a man |
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QUOTE(nancynotlousy @ Nov 2 2015, 10:25 AM) FC depends how you press the oil pedal. Mainly why I love Jetta mainly because with 1.4l engine that performance greater than car with 1.8l anytime. Further more, the fuel consumption is not that bad as you think. Actually I'm referring to TS where he keep mentioning that the 1.4TSI consume more fuel than the normal 1.4.My Jetta with full tank can tahan until about 700km ++. and I drive in city and highway all the time la! In City - I am a typical ah soh driver Highway - I drive like a man |
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QUOTE(earl-ku @ Nov 2 2015, 09:47 AM) 50L |
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Nov 2 2015, 11:48 AM) Actually I'm referring to TS where he keep mentioning that the 1.4TSI consume more fuel than the normal 1.4. Who said that?Attached thumbnail(s) 
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Nov 3 2015, 07:11 AM) Who said that? sorry, i mistook this guy as TSQUOTE(Unseen83 @ Oct 29 2015, 05:35 PM) fast.. responsive engine.. eat fuel like me drink milo xQUOTE(KennyKB @ Oct 30 2015, 09:45 AM) Jetta supposed to have very good FC. You couldn't tell with just a test drive. Anyway you already bought your Slyphy with body kit and all so why go and test drive Jetta? An NA car's performance isn't going to compare favourably with a turbocharged car. It's like flirting with a beautiful woman just after you got married. And when you find that she's available go home and spend sleepless nights. Remember you are married to your car for the next 5 years. Any divorce is extremely financially painful! QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Oct 30 2015, 04:29 PM) look i give Jetta faster car with it Turbocharge /injection. good promo(no Deposit/Interest)... x but surely not perfect.. VW Sale mans admit to me Fuel is big compare to my current car.. so this is why i say i respect VW SA.. This post has been edited by JunJun04035: Nov 3 2015, 07:17 AM xx honest performance my 16-valve DOHC, naturally-aspirated with variable valve timing Defo be defeated !! but FC hard to beat 8KM for 1L.. Drive Parit Raja Johor to KB Kelantan Single pump Ron95xx |
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Nov 2 2015, 11:48 AM) Actually I'm referring to TS where he keep mentioning that the 1.4TSI consume more fuel than the normal 1.4. so Jetta with its Turbo and fuel injection do not consume more fuel than normal 1.4L engine... wow impressive... dam VW Sa liar too me.. Right im just gonna bring my blanket tomorrow when i drive my boring car to work.. seem all car got magic power fast as lighting.. Near invincible... This post has been edited by Unseen83: Nov 3 2015, 08:57 PM |
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Nov 3 2015, 08:57 PM) so Jetta with its Turbo and fuel injection do not consume more fuel than normal 1.4L engine... wow impressive... dam VW Sa liar too me.. Right im just gonna bring my blanket tomorrow when i drive my boring car to work.. seem all car got magic power fast as lighting.. Near invincible... |
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Nov 4 2015, 01:22 AM) dem it, I don't want to say this but you suffer some sort of head hit wall something? hahahahaha |
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Nov 4 2015, 01:22 AM) dem it, I don't want to say this but you suffer some sort of head hit wall something? Just let him laa. We r here to discuss and share knowledge.. |
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Passat nvr impress me, due to the dull look. Now I'm looking for a D-segment car, and since Passat have huge discount, so I went to look see look see at VW KK.
Before that I'd tested all the Japanese d-seg car, and Passat beat them all, powerful, superb handling, and the confidence when I test drive like a sohai at Kesas. So now I'm really tempted with this car, few stuff that hold me back is 1.) B8 gonna launch Q1 next year, but it's not too big problem since it will be out of budget. 2.) The famous DSG problem, is it solved ? Any proven sample ? Need opinion from the driver here. Thanks ! |
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QUOTE(lynsuxxx @ Nov 5 2015, 12:38 AM) Passat nvr impress me, due to the dull look. Now I'm looking for a D-segment car, and since Passat have huge discount, so I went to look see look see at VW KK. I dont think it really solve. For the previous version, they recall back and update the software. I heard they decrease the torque. Im not sure is it true or not. Need to do dyno to confirm.Before that I'd tested all the Japanese d-seg car, and Passat beat them all, powerful, superb handling, and the confidence when I test drive like a sohai at Kesas. So now I'm really tempted with this car, few stuff that hold me back is 1.) B8 gonna launch Q1 next year, but it's not too big problem since it will be out of budget. 2.) The famous DSG problem, is it solved ? Any proven sample ? Need opinion from the driver here. Thanks ! But after they update, the dsg problem decrease.. My dq200 on jetta running well till now. Mileage 40k. I mod my car by increasing 40hp 40Nm torque. So far so good now... Yes i really love the car performance. The shifting in dsg gearbox is superb. Change exhaust u will hear the dsg fart.. |
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QUOTE(lynsuxxx @ Nov 5 2015, 12:38 AM) Passat nvr impress me, due to the dull look. Now I'm looking for a D-segment car, and since Passat have huge discount, so I went to look see look see at VW KK. Define "solved"Before that I'd tested all the Japanese d-seg car, and Passat beat them all, powerful, superb handling, and the confidence when I test drive like a sohai at Kesas. So now I'm really tempted with this car, few stuff that hold me back is 1.) B8 gonna launch Q1 next year, but it's not too big problem since it will be out of budget. 2.) The famous DSG problem, is it solved ? Any proven sample ? Need opinion from the driver here. Thanks ! If you expect the smoothness of a conventional AT (Torque converter type) especially in Malaysia's tropic weather, IT WILL NEVER CONSIDER SOLVED by you. QUOTE(mozact89 @ Nov 5 2015, 02:19 AM) I dont think it really solve. For the previous version, they recall back and update the software. I heard they decrease the torque. Im not sure is it true or not. Need to do dyno to confirm. What I learned is the software tuning inhibits full torque application when in low gear, thus reducing potential jerks and shudder in low speed and giving the feel of the car become less powerful.But after they update, the dsg problem decrease.. My dq200 on jetta running well till now. Mileage 40k. I mod my car by increasing 40hp 40Nm torque. So far so good now... Yes i really love the car performance. The shifting in dsg gearbox is superb. Change exhaust u will hear the dsg fart.. |
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Nov 5 2015, 10:47 AM
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So this thread has been so long, but no one has ever confirmed that changing the mineral oil will solve the problem.
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QUOTE(nancynotlousy @ Nov 5 2015, 11:15 AM) how to confirm it to you?! or you should come to my place and see my Jetta to show you my car and let you test drive my Jetta after changing mineral oil after 2 year to confirm? Somehow the only words, I can share to you is my Jetta is yet to have any problem after changing mineral oil since June 2013. But somehow still cannot confirm now... because still need to wait for another 3 more year, if my Jetta got NO PROBLEM STILL then I come and confirm it to you.. ok?? HAHA You don't confirm based on 1 person. If you don't have problems but 10 others do, so who's right and who's wrong.touch wood.... pipu dun cure my car pls.. You confirm based on statistics. What is the failure rate of DSG gearbox now. If it is really fixed, in theory there will be no more cars in VW service centre waiting for their DSGgearbox to be fixed. Is this true? |
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QUOTE(Drian @ Nov 5 2015, 11:35 AM) You don't confirm based on 1 person. If you don't have problems but 10 others do, so who's right and who's wrong. If you are in JB, you can take a look at the Federal Auto VW there, in between Giant Tampoi and Mercedes Cycle & Carriage. You confirm based on statistics. What is the failure rate of DSG gearbox now. If it is really fixed, in theory there will be no more cars in VW service centre waiting for their DSGgearbox to be fixed. Is this true? Becareful when you drive in, you might have to reverse out due to tons of VW cars parked there. |
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Nov 3 2015, 08:57 PM) so Jetta with its Turbo and fuel injection do not consume more fuel than normal 1.4L engine... wow impressive... dam VW Sa liar too me.. Right im just gonna bring my blanket tomorrow when i drive my boring car to work.. seem all car got magic power fast as lighting.. Near invincible... Nothing is free in this world. The only way to get more power from any efficient engine, is to burn more fuel. VW 1.4TSI certainly produces more power than any 1.4NA! This extra power is not free. The engine has the ability to squeeze in more fuel & air mixture into it's cylinders to produce the extra power. This post has been edited by SKYjack: Nov 5 2015, 02:41 PM |
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Seems like the result not really encourage me to buy it...
But machine made by the Germanic, I totally sold by it. Maybe just get a Japanese with good resale value, and change it when the problem solve, I travel outstation a lot, and reliability is very important for me. |
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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Nov 5 2015, 02:38 PM) That is completely wrong. oh my gosh.. i did not know that ah shock! Nothing is free in this world. The only way to get more power from any efficient engine, is to burn more fuel. VW 1.4TSI certainly produces more power than any 1.4NA! This extra power is not free. The engine has the ability to squeeze in more fuel & air mixture into it's cylinders to produce the extra power. |
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QUOTE(lynsuxxx @ Nov 5 2015, 02:42 PM) Seems like the result not really encourage me to buy it... If you are not a mechanically inclined person, don't get the Jetta. Jap more suitable for you. Jetta is a damn nice car to drive, but reliability is not a strong point! Not to say the Jetta will definitely fail. In your case Jap model may be better!But machine made by the Germanic, I totally sold by it. Maybe just get a Japanese with good resale value, and change it when the problem solve, I travel outstation a lot, and reliability is very important for me. |
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Nov 5 2015, 05:21 PM) oh my gosh.. i did not know that ah shock! It is not as bad as it sounds. I mean the 1.4TSI is not going to guzzle fuel that you'll see the fuel needle move as you drive! This is a very efficient engine. Let me put it another way.It's 1.4 litre engine, produces same power of a 2.5litre but consumes fuel like a 1.8 litre. So if you have tasted it's power and like it, go for it. But remember there's a price to be paid for everything. |
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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Nov 5 2015, 06:17 PM) If you are not a mechanically inclined person, don't get the Jetta. Jap more suitable for you. Jetta is a damn nice car to drive, but reliability is not a strong point! Not to say the Jetta will definitely fail. In your case Jap model may be better! Not Jetta, Passat, until now still miss that feeling, have to work harder earn more $$$ to get a Germanic machine. |
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QUOTE(lynsuxxx @ Nov 5 2015, 10:11 PM) Not Jetta, Passat, until now still miss that feeling, have to work harder earn more $$$ to get a Germanic machine. Ok if you are one that must have a German machine at all cost, go for it. But be prepared for the surprise these fellows throw up! |
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QUOTE(lampapalam @ Nov 5 2015, 12:20 PM) Agreed! well at least stat say 2013 onward a "less" problemati lolsomehow have to share this survey that survey by Vw Dsg 7 Defects Community facebook group - which consist all VW owner group. I guess this survey can be trusted. [attachmentid=5243481] [attachmentid=5243483] [attachmentid=5243484] but due to this issue i am pulling handbrake getting myself a golf tsi |
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QUOTE(lampapalam @ Nov 5 2015, 12:20 PM) Agreed! This is good information.somehow have to share this survey that survey by Vw Dsg 7 Defects Community facebook group - which consist all VW owner group. I guess this survey can be trusted. [attachmentid=5243481] [attachmentid=5243483] [attachmentid=5243484] Interesting to see that all of them has transmission issue including those in year 2014. This post has been edited by Drian: Nov 6 2015, 10:19 AM |
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QUOTE(lampapalam @ Nov 5 2015, 12:20 PM) Agreed! The problem with this survey is it doesn't differentiate the car models.somehow have to share this survey that survey by Vw Dsg 7 Defects Community facebook group - which consist all VW owner group. I guess this survey can be trusted. [attachmentid=5243481] [attachmentid=5243483] [attachmentid=5243484] For example The 1.2 Polo Tsi have the following as more common issues: - air cond - turbo failure (especially high mileage models) - mechatronic - Clutch wear (judder) - speed sensor - interior rattling and creaks - Premature battery failure (less than 2 years - covered by warranty) The 1.4 Jetta/Golf mk6 Tsi have a few of the following problems: - door lock - piston crack or compression loss - mechantronic - Clutch wear (judder) - Coil pack failure (less common) - Interior rattling and creaks - Premature battery failure (less than 2 years - covered by warranty) The 1.4 Golf Tsi Mk7 have the following problems: - Mechatronic - Clutch wear (judder) - Premature battery failure (less than 2 years - covered by warranty) - Interior rattling and creaks 1.8 Passat Tsi have the following issues (based on my own experience): - Clutch wear (judder) - Mechatronic (less common) <--- did not happen to me - interior rattling and creaks + boot noise - Premature battery failure (less than 2 years - covered by warranty) 2.0 Golf mk7 GTI have the following problems: - Premature battery failure (less than 2 years - covered by warranty) - Interior rattling and creaks - Lower arm/bush bearing issues The survey is accurate at generalizing the problems on the whole, it doesn't actually isolate in detail for different VW models. |
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Nov 6 2015, 04:06 PM) The problem with this survey is it doesn't differentiate the car models. Regarding the judder, imo it's more like a characteristic of DSG or DCT in broader sense. For example The 1.2 Polo Tsi have the following as more common issues: - air cond - turbo failure (especially high mileage models) - mechatronic - Clutch wear (judder) - speed sensor - interior rattling and creaks - Premature battery failure (less than 2 years - covered by warranty) The 1.4 Jetta/Golf mk6 Tsi have a few of the following problems: - door lock - piston crack or compression loss - mechantronic - Clutch wear (judder) - Coil pack failure (less common) - Interior rattling and creaks - Premature battery failure (less than 2 years - covered by warranty) The 1.4 Golf Tsi Mk7 have the following problems: - Mechatronic - Clutch wear (judder) - Premature battery failure (less than 2 years - covered by warranty) - Interior rattling and creaks 1.8 Passat Tsi have the following issues (based on my own experience): - Clutch wear (judder) - Mechatronic (less common) <--- did not happen to me - interior rattling and creaks + boot noise - Premature battery failure (less than 2 years - covered by warranty) 2.0 Golf mk7 GTI have the following problems: - Premature battery failure (less than 2 years - covered by warranty) - Interior rattling and creaks - Lower arm/bush bearing issues The survey is accurate at generalizing the problems on the whole, it doesn't actually isolate in detail for different VW models. Sadly I am not able to source a more expensive make (i.e. PDK of Porsche), thus I cannot conclude my hypothesis |
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Nov 6 2015, 04:11 PM) Regarding the judder, imo it's more like a characteristic of DSG or DCT in broader sense. The jerking is a characteristic. The judder is caused by clutch wear.Sadly I am not able to source a more expensive make (i.e. PDK of Porsche), thus I cannot conclude my hypothesis |
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Nov 7 2015, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Nov 6 2015, 04:17 PM) The jerking is a characteristic. The judder is caused by clutch wear. Both is characteristic, IMO.A mainstream DCT will never be as smooth as torque converter, at least for now. |
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Nov 7 2015, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Nov 5 2015, 06:29 PM) It is not as bad as it sounds. I mean the 1.4TSI is not going to guzzle fuel that you'll see the fuel needle move as you drive! This is a very efficient engine. Let me put it another way. It's 1.4 litre engine, produces same power of a 2.5litre but consumes fuel like a 1.8 litre. So if you have tasted it's power and like it, go for it. But remember there's a price to be paid for everything. sure VW with it Honest and responsible are world renounce ! Das Auto ! |
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Nov 7 2015, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Nov 7 2015, 05:47 PM) sure VW with it Honest and responsible are world renounce ! Das Auto ! |
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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Nov 7 2015, 05:59 PM) They were not very honest with diesel emission standards and were caught with their pants down in the US recently! Still I have to admit, VW are fun cars to drive! In terms of safety, power n road handling VW is better than many cars. |
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Nov 8 2015, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE(Rohan26 @ Nov 7 2015, 11:19 PM) In terms of safety, power n road handling VW is better than many cars. The 1.4TSI engine is certainly most powerful in it's class. I'd agree against most cars but the Jetta loses out on handling and steering feel and feedback to the 408. Jetta has some body roll at corners,408 is much more planted.This post has been edited by SKYjack: Nov 8 2015, 12:37 AM |
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Nov 8 2015, 01:03 AM
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err.... body roll means bad handling?
hahahahahha... there is much more to handling then just the word body roll and planted... but thanks for the entertainment... |
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Nov 8 2015, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 8 2015, 01:03 AM) err.... body roll means bad handling? Y? U cant accept he said 408 better handling than jetta?hahahahahha... there is much more to handling then just the word body roll and planted... but thanks for the entertainment... |
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Nov 8 2015, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 8 2015, 01:03 AM) err.... body roll means bad handling? Of course theres more, but glad he you are entertained.hahahahahha... there is much more to handling then just the word body roll and planted... but thanks for the entertainment... |
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Nov 8 2015, 11:16 AM
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Hi there, want to ask for suggestion for my 2nd car. I already go to VW showroom and very tempted on the jetta sport edition.
They are selling for 117k. So based on my observation the goods are: 5+5 years warranty nice handling and powerful car (again, I just drive myvi before so anything better than myvi i consider a huge upgrade lol) long service interval full loan while the bads: no free on labor fees when servicing the DSG issues? I dont know. From my reading in this thread seem like it not solved yet. Will it affect 2014 jetta? 2014 car. I want a car that is reliable for long term as I not planning on selling it anytime soon so resale value is not my top concern. So how good is the jetta in term of reliability? any owner can share? Is it worth it? worst case scenario, what major problem is this car facing? |
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Nov 8 2015, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 8 2015, 01:03 AM) err.... body roll means bad handling? If you can't explain yourself don't open your mouth and giggle like a clown. Seems to be there a lots of this type of smartass posts from you.hahahahahha... there is much more to handling then just the word body roll and planted... but thanks for the entertainment... |
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Nov 8 2015, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(anarchy04 @ Nov 8 2015, 10:24 AM) Y? U cant accept he said 408 better handling than jetta? on what basis its better?thats what i want to know... instead of just plucking words like body roll and planted QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Nov 8 2015, 12:24 PM) If you can't explain yourself don't open your mouth and giggle like a clown. Seems to be there a lots of this type of smartass posts from you. oh boy.... i am more afraid u wont understand if i am to touch even just the surface of handling... |
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Nov 8 2015, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 8 2015, 02:18 PM) on what basis its better? Less bodyroll = best handling thats what i want to know... instead of just plucking words like body roll and planted oh boy.... i am more afraid u wont understand if i am to touch even just the surface of handling... Deswai maivee pasang ARB suddenly got godlike handling |
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Nov 8 2015, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 8 2015, 04:07 PM) Less bodyroll = best handling That's why must install adjustable with 15K spring rates. Deswai maivee pasang ARB suddenly got godlike handling And suspensions like RCS /RDS (rubbish cornering suspension /rubbish dampening system respectively, feel free to improvise) are total crap as you'll body roll like no tomorrow |
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Nov 8 2015, 08:08 PM
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My car ckd julai 2014. Mileage 40k. So far so good with the clutch..
But my car cannot be benchmark anymore. Since already on stage 1. 191whp 280nm torque. Vw said Dq200 only can handle 250nm torque.. |
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Nov 8 2015, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Nov 8 2015, 12:35 AM) The 1.4TSI engine is certainly most powerful in it's class. I'd agree against most cars but the Jetta loses out on handling and steering feel and feedback to the 408. Jetta has some body roll at corners,408 is much more planted. I disagree. Though I didn't drive the 408 that much, I am pretty certain the Jetta handles better around corners hands down. The 408thp ain't bad but compared to the DSG pairing, the 408 just simply isn't as engaging. |
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Nov 8 2015, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Nov 8 2015, 08:25 PM) I disagree. Though I didn't drive the 408 that much, I am pretty certain the Jetta handles better around corners hands down. The 408thp ain't bad but compared to the DSG pairing, the 408 just simply isn't as engaging. jetta suspension.. Not really bad, not really good.. Average i can say.. |
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Nov 9 2015, 01:01 AM
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Nov 9 2015, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Nov 9 2015, 01:01 AM) |
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Nov 9 2015, 11:29 AM
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Nov 9 2015, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Nov 9 2015, 11:29 AM) Sounds really sweet! Thanks to the forge air intake... |
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Nov 9 2015, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE(kazekage_09 @ Nov 8 2015, 11:16 AM) Hi there, want to ask for suggestion for my 2nd car. I already go to VW showroom and very tempted on the jetta sport edition. huhits 5+5 warranty now meh?They are selling for 117k. So based on my observation the goods are: 5+5 years warranty nice handling and powerful car (again, I just drive myvi before so anything better than myvi i consider a huge upgrade lol) long service interval full loan while the bads: no free on labor fees when servicing the DSG issues? I dont know. From my reading in this thread seem like it not solved yet. Will it affect 2014 jetta? 2014 car. I want a car that is reliable for long term as I not planning on selling it anytime soon so resale value is not my top concern. So how good is the jetta in term of reliability? any owner can share? Is it worth it? worst case scenario, what major problem is this car facing? |
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Nov 9 2015, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Nov 9 2015, 11:29 AM) Sounds really sweet! Actually I'm also curious to know now. You say the 408t is better than the Jetta in terms of handling, but what is your basis for that claim? If it's just on your personal experience or butt feel then it would be subjective at best. |
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Nov 9 2015, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE(finlandstio @ Nov 9 2015, 02:41 PM) Jetta. Well have to say Jetta is a very very FUN car to drive. Latest manufacture of the passat is 2014? any 2015 car?With their current discount, i would agree that Jetta is definitely a choice. By the way, make it more clear on this 5+5 means 5 year warranty for CAR with unlimited mileage and 5-year mobility guarantee no free on labor fees I guess from the discount they given to you for this car, it is more than enuff to recover the labour service cost already DSG issue I have no idea about Jetta, but my Passat 2014 is still working fine with failure on DSG yet. I assume 2014 Jetta shouldn't be any issued on this. That my 2 cents |
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Nov 10 2015, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Nov 8 2015, 10:42 AM) Of course theres more, but glad he you are entertained. QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Nov 8 2015, 12:24 PM) If you can't explain yourself don't open your mouth and giggle like a clown. Seems to be there a lots of this type of smartass posts from you. i am still waiting for the basis that the better handling is based on... |
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Nov 10 2015, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 10 2015, 01:50 PM) i am still waiting for the basis that the better handling is based on... Clearly you have done this many times. Your smartass is on the line! |
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Nov 10 2015, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Nov 10 2015, 05:08 PM) Clearly you have done this many times. Your smartass is on the line! oh come on...i would like to hear your basis... why not state your basis instead of skirting over and around the topic... adoi.... |
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Nov 11 2015, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Nov 9 2015, 04:54 PM) Latest manufacture of the passat is 2014? any 2015 car? All 2014, there is no car assembled in 2015, as the stock is still a lot from 2014, and B8 is coming thats why selling the passat like mad now ... clear stock for B8 |
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Nov 11 2015, 03:29 PM
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actually i am still waiting for the basis...
but sadly no reply after directing personal attack on me... ai.... no substance is it? sad... and i thought i can know their basis... |
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Nov 11 2015, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Nov 11 2015, 03:29 PM) actually i am still waiting for the basis... Hahaha, I got some self proclaimed tree hugging energy expert behaving like a small child in another thread when I don't see eye to eye with him there... so I think you got off pretty easily here.but sadly no reply after directing personal attack on me... ai.... no substance is it? sad... and i thought i can know their basis... This post has been edited by zweimmk: Nov 11 2015, 04:28 PM |
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Nov 11 2015, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Nov 11 2015, 04:27 PM) Hahaha, I got some self proclaimed tree hugging energy expert behaving like a small child in another thread when I don't see eye to eye with him there... so I think you got off pretty easily here. the forumer that claims so is so busy replying other thread instead of putting forth his basis...looks like just his own opinion again... to make him feel good... |
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Nov 11 2015, 05:25 PM
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The 2014 Passat does not suffer any DSG issues meh? |
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Nov 11 2015, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Nov 10 2015, 05:08 PM) Clearly you have done this many times. Your smartass is on the line! still awaiting your basis on the 408 has better handling bro... please share your knowledge... |
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Nov 11 2015, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(kerbau @ Nov 11 2015, 05:25 PM) The 2014 Passat does not suffer any DSG issues meh? DSG Recall In AustraliaAnother VW Jetta |
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Nov 11 2015, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(highwaytuner @ Nov 11 2015, 08:53 PM) Hye bro, the recall is old story..Now we r discussing is there any cases happen after the recall changing to mineral oil n software upgrade. Vw gti dq500 problem is a rare case.. Not like dq200 on jetta and passat that previously on 2011/2012 model always breakdown. |
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Nov 12 2015, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(highwaytuner @ Nov 11 2015, 08:53 PM) I followed a friend who love the Passat 2014 batch but even the dealer cannot guarantee the mineral oil and software update fix. So she is waiting for the new model in 2016.Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Nov 12 2015, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(towar2 @ Nov 12 2015, 10:58 AM) SKYjack is a Peugeot evangelist who even praise its utterly numb electric steering.. and he keep claiming that 408 has better handling... i just want to know the basis but sadly until now, he is still just hot air... |
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Nov 12 2015, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(towar2 @ Nov 12 2015, 11:21 AM) well, the difference in tyres would give Peugeot an advantage in physical grip. wanted to know what he say... |
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Jan 14 2016, 12:18 AM
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I just went through this forum, seemed like the gb problem has 'reduced' significantly since the mineral oil swap. Agree?
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Jan 14 2016, 01:18 AM
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QUOTE(rasahman @ Jan 14 2016, 12:18 AM) I just went through this forum, seemed like the gb problem has 'reduced' significantly since the mineral oil swap. Agree? Hope so. My mileage now 46k. And still no problem with the clutch n mecha. My car is not stock. But still the clutch can tahan. Hope it will remain strong.. Haha |
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QUOTE(sochun2424 @ Jul 27 2014, 02:14 PM) Hi, I purchased Passat on Oct 2014, current mileage 23734. DSG breakdown.I just got my new Passat 2014 two days ago. It's too soon for me to judge... Will keep you guys posted if there's any problem... Cheers! By the way, if there's any 2014 VW owner that clocked 20k mileage above can share their experience perhaps? Can u image engin suddendly breakdown while you are driving? Very dangeraous |
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Jan 22 2016, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(sochun2424 @ Jul 27 2014, 02:14 PM) Hi, I purchased Passat on Oct 2014, current mileage 23734. DSG breakdown.I just got my new Passat 2014 two days ago. It's too soon for me to judge... Will keep you guys posted if there's any problem... Cheers! By the way, if there's any 2014 VW owner that clocked 20k mileage above can share their experience perhaps? Can u image engin suddendly breakdown while you are driving? Very dangeraous |
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Jan 22 2016, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(kerbau @ Nov 11 2015, 05:25 PM) The 2014 Passat does not suffer any DSG issues meh? I purchased Passat on Oct 2014, current mileage 23734. DSG breakdown.Can u image engin suddendly breakdown while you are driving? Very dangeraous |
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Jan 22 2016, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(Fregic @ Jan 22 2016, 10:18 AM) I purchased Passat on Oct 2014, current mileage 23734. DSG breakdown. wallawei, purposely join today to give comments... interesting...Can u image engin suddendly breakdown while you are driving? Very dangeraous |
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Jan 22 2016, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(Fregic @ Jan 22 2016, 10:18 AM) I purchased Passat on Oct 2014, current mileage 23734. DSG breakdown. Luckily my friend postponed her purchase. They told us they have a number of 2014 stock to sell still.Can u image engin suddendly breakdown while you are driving? Very dangeraous |
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Jan 22 2016, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(opjust @ Jan 22 2016, 11:13 AM) wallawei, purposely join today to give comments... interesting... Lol. At first DSG breakdown then he/she said engine breakdown. Make up your mind pls. |
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Jan 27 2016, 08:47 PM
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so does it fix with mineral oil?? or it's just a myth??
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Jan 27 2016, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE(heavensea @ Jan 27 2016, 08:47 PM) so does it fix with mineral oil?? or it's just a myth?? Maybe. Im with mileage of 46k so far so good.. |
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Jan 27 2016, 08:56 PM
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it just prolong the breakdown..eventually it will breakdown ( but breakdown prematurely unlike normal clutch can tahan 200-300k km
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Feb 10 2016, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Jan 27 2016, 08:56 PM) it just prolong the breakdown..eventually it will breakdown ( but breakdown prematurely unlike normal clutch can tahan 200-300k km |
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Feb 10 2016, 11:46 PM
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I came to realize that dsg usually driven by spirited drivers have less issues or no issue other regular wear and tear stuff that needs to be looked at.
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Feb 11 2016, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(DT89 @ Feb 10 2016, 11:46 PM) I came to realize that dsg usually driven by spirited drivers have less issues or no issue other regular wear and tear stuff that needs to be looked at. I heard have to use manual mode during traffic jem and uphill drive.. |
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Feb 11 2016, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Feb 11 2016, 10:09 AM) I heard have to use manual mode during traffic jem and uphill drive.. Just put it to S mode, higher rev before next gear change, less juddering and would eventually reduce clutch wear. It works pretty similar to a manual gearbox, but with a computer controlling it. It will still wear out the same way a manual gearbox willThis post has been edited by DT89: Feb 11 2016, 05:02 PM |
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Feb 11 2016, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE(DT89 @ Feb 11 2016, 04:59 PM) Just put it to S mode, higher rev before next gear change, less juddering and would eventually reduce clutch wear. It works pretty similar to a manual gearbox, but with a computer controlling it. It will still wear out the same way a manual gearbox will Higher fuel consumption though |
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Feb 12 2016, 11:51 AM
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slightly......a better trade off for heavily worn clutch haha
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Feb 12 2016, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(DT89 @ Feb 11 2016, 04:59 PM) Just put it to S mode, higher rev before next gear change, less juddering and would eventually reduce clutch wear. It works pretty similar to a manual gearbox, but with a computer controlling it. It will still wear out the same way a manual gearbox will Noted tq |
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Mar 15 2016, 08:25 PM
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bad car of the year!
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Mar 15 2016, 09:49 PM
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RM88,888 now is a big bang for the bucks. Too bad when I was doing test drive in Nov last year, they hold stiff on RM108k.
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Mar 15 2016, 10:24 PM
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Come lets buy. I bought pre reg 0 mileage in 2014 rm118k. Demn..
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Mar 15 2016, 10:53 PM
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my cousin just sold his jetta rm40k. Problem car. Change 2 gearbox within 5 years.
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Mar 16 2016, 06:07 AM
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QUOTE(vexus @ Mar 15 2016, 10:53 PM) my cousin just sold his jetta rm40k. Problem car. Change 2 gearbox within 5 years. Sad to here that. But that is 2011 model. |
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Mar 16 2016, 04:34 PM
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The New Jetta Price is very tempting. just submitted for test drive appointment from their website. see how it goes
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Tempted with Passat CC 2.0...but cant put my mind into it due to DSG issues....sigh....
Any comments/feedback on CC |
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Mar 16 2016, 04:41 PM
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is the passat and jetta here, are using the VW scandal engines?
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QUOTE(strguy @ Mar 16 2016, 04:34 PM) The New Jetta Price is very tempting. just submitted for test drive appointment from their website. see how it goes Dont test it bro.. I cancel my sylphy booking after test drive jetta bro.. Hahaha |
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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Mar 16 2016, 04:38 PM) Tempted with Passat CC 2.0...but cant put my mind into it due to DSG issues....sigh.... Passat is Passat, CC is CC, there are not the same bro, since you mentioned 2.0, guessing you were talking about CCAny comments/feedback on CC Not sure CC is using which DQ series of DSG gearbox, if it is using the same DQ200, then the problem is still there. |
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Mar 16 2016, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(thunderbird @ Mar 16 2016, 09:11 PM) Passat is Passat, CC is CC, there are not the same bro, since you mentioned 2.0, guessing you were talking about CC Passat n vw cc using the same engine n gearbox dq200.. If u talk about passat cc which is the previous model, its using 2.0engine and dq250 6 speed wetclutchNot sure CC is using which DQ series of DSG gearbox, if it is using the same DQ200, then the problem is still there. |
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Mar 17 2016, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Mar 16 2016, 04:38 PM) Tempted with Passat CC 2.0...but cant put my mind into it due to DSG issues....sigh.... passat cc if 2.0t is definitely not the dsg7 dry.Any comments/feedback on CC but there's no more 2.0+dsg6 CC after 2012. (facelift is all 1.8+dsg7) |
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Hi all seniors,
I also tempted by a price of rm88888 jetta. Booking fee rm500 had been paid. Just thinking I'm wanna cancel it or not due to: 1. Second hand 2014 jetta can be found within 65k~75k and low mileage. 2. Slightly higher price arnd 80k, can be obtain second hand 2014 Passat. If the problem really solve, I will consider 2nd hand as well. Or it's really a problematic car then mayb I choose others local or japs car. Need all your advise |
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Mar 17 2016, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(ivansoo @ Mar 17 2016, 07:32 AM) Hi all seniors, If the second is still under warranty. Why not? Check the service interval. N get the VIN number check with VGM is it still under warranty or not..I also tempted by a price of rm88888 jetta. Booking fee rm500 had been paid. Just thinking I'm wanna cancel it or not due to: 1. Second hand 2014 jetta can be found within 65k~75k and low mileage. 2. Slightly higher price arnd 80k, can be obtain second hand 2014 Passat. If the problem really solve, I will consider 2nd hand as well. Or it's really a problematic car then mayb I choose others local or japs car. Need all your advise The new jetta 88k come with high interest 3.2% Actually the same as promotion last year 0 deposit 0 interest with the price of rm120k otr if im not mistaken. Almost the same |
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Mar 17 2016, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(ivansoo @ Mar 17 2016, 07:32 AM) Hi all seniors, Is it a problematic car? The truth is somewhere out there. Most of the negative comments are from non-owners. Actual owners are not saying much. Maybe fed up of trying to change perception or just afraid to affect their second hand value.I also tempted by a price of rm88888 jetta. Booking fee rm500 had been paid. Just thinking I'm wanna cancel it or not due to: 1. Second hand 2014 jetta can be found within 65k~75k and low mileage. 2. Slightly higher price arnd 80k, can be obtain second hand 2014 Passat. If the problem really solve, I will consider 2nd hand as well. Or it's really a problematic car then mayb I choose others local or japs car. Need all your advise |
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Mar 17 2016, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(kluseng @ Mar 17 2016, 01:48 PM) Is it a problematic car? The truth is somewhere out there. Most of the negative comments are from non-owners. Actual owners are not saying much. Maybe fed up of trying to change perception or just afraid to affect their second hand value. Don't be delusional. Who told you all comments are from non users? Have you isited fan clubs forums and vw Facebook page? |
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Mar 17 2016, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE(szaku89 @ Mar 17 2016, 02:14 PM) Don't be delusional. Who told you all comments are from non users? Have you isited fan clubs forums and vw Facebook page? Don't be stupid. I was referring to this thread. |
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Mar 17 2016, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(kluseng @ Mar 17 2016, 03:05 PM) Don't be stupid. I was referring to this thread. Ok fine, my mistake. But the fact is this DSG problem is so well known, not only in our country, it's a worldwide problem. I guess now 80% of ppl are aware of such problem. |
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Mar 17 2016, 03:59 PM
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If you are all asking these sort of questions here, means you have all not read enough and has obviously not spoken to someone who really owns the car
and obviously have not test drove the car before its really a pain to own a vw(tsi series) ... but its a joy to drive and if you really need to ask here - just dont bother buying ... you dont need someone else to confirm that for you |
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Mar 17 2016, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(earl-ku @ Mar 17 2016, 03:59 PM) If you are all asking these sort of questions here, means you have all not read enough and has obviously not spoken to someone who really owns the car Ok, let throw some number here:and obviously have not test drove the car before its really a pain to own a vw(tsi series) ... but its a joy to drive and if you really need to ask here - just dont bother buying ... you dont need someone else to confirm that for you vw DSG variances 
Dq200 is the trouble one everyone talking about. Of cause until now vw never said the exact problem or a very solid solution. A lot of debate online but more technical theory are this: 1. Compare to dq250 which is use in gti and older Passat, dq200 is about 20kg lighter, hold just 1.7L of ATF instead of 7L and handle 150Nm less torque. In short it is a scale down cheaper version for lower powered car. 2. You see how vw mate dq200 to the power plant. Jetta output 240Nm, Passat 250Nm. That's right to the limit of the dq200. As an engineer, I wouldn't design it that way. Of cause I don't work for them, they know better. Well, thing from wiki/internet can't be 100% right, but VW didn't come out to defend or clarify. I only know they have many recall to retune the ecu to be less aggressive and mineral oil change. hopefully it can solve the problem. If the car still got warranty shouldn't be a problem. To be frank, driving a car with turbo and dsg shift is a great feeling compare to boring n.a car with traditional auto box. And I stil know friends that are driving their polo, Jetta and Passat happily everyday without any dsg problem. |
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Mar 17 2016, 06:48 PM
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Is the current VW Passat 1.8 TSI having the DSG issues? Say for a car assembled in the year 2015 (CKD). The discount is tempting.
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Mar 17 2016, 08:22 PM
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Suddenly, the topic of VW dsg becomes a hot discussion when there is a fire sale on these cars. The comparisons and case studies with all the detailed user experience should already cover this old topic.
if this is going to be an issue, probably should not even consider getting them right ? Honestly speaking, why pay for something just because it's cheap if your gonna worry day and night about it acting up ? Get a Vios 👍 bulletproof car. This post has been edited by DT89: Mar 17 2016, 08:23 PM |
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QUOTE(DT89 @ Mar 17 2016, 08:22 PM) Suddenly, the topic of VW dsg becomes a hot discussion when there is a fire sale on these cars. The comparisons and case studies with all the detailed user experience should already cover this old topic. same as hybrid cars, got discount only all rush to buy, mau jual anak, jual isteri janji gaya.if this is going to be an issue, probably should not even consider getting them right ? Honestly speaking, why pay for something just because it's cheap if your gonna worry day and night about it acting up ? Get a Vios 👍 bulletproof car. |
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Mar 18 2016, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(DT89 @ Mar 17 2016, 08:22 PM) Suddenly, the topic of VW dsg becomes a hot discussion when there is a fire sale on these cars. The comparisons and case studies with all the detailed user experience should already cover this old topic. Bro how much vios now otr? Can show me vios catalog?if this is going to be an issue, probably should not even consider getting them right ? Honestly speaking, why pay for something just because it's cheap if your gonna worry day and night about it acting up ? Get a Vios 👍 bulletproof car. |
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Mar 18 2016, 09:11 AM
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QUOTE(kww @ Mar 17 2016, 05:35 PM) Ok, let throw some number here: u left out one fact, the CBU unit came in as 180bhp, the CKD ones are 169bhp - they detune it already because of the high rate of failure and on top of the other host of changes to itvw DSG variances
Dq200 is the trouble one everyone talking about. Of cause until now vw never said the exact problem or a very solid solution. A lot of debate online but more technical theory are this: 1. Compare to dq250 which is use in gti and older Passat, dq200 is about 20kg lighter, hold just 1.7L of ATF instead of 7L and handle 150Nm less torque. In short it is a scale down cheaper version for lower powered car. 2. You see how vw mate dq200 to the power plant. Jetta output 240Nm, Passat 250Nm. That's right to the limit of the dq200. As an engineer, I wouldn't design it that way. Of cause I don't work for them, they know better. Well, thing from wiki/internet can't be 100% right, but VW didn't come out to defend or clarify. I only know they have many recall to retune the ecu to be less aggressive and mineral oil change. hopefully it can solve the problem. If the car still got warranty shouldn't be a problem. To be frank, driving a car with turbo and dsg shift is a great feeling compare to boring n.a car with traditional auto box. And I stil know friends that are driving their polo, Jetta and Passat happily everyday without any dsg problem. |
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Mar 18 2016, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Mar 18 2016, 09:03 AM) Bro how much vios now otr? Can show me vios catalog? more than a polo/ jetta 😆 btw I'm a jetta 2014 user and has no problems to date aside from squeaky rubber door seal noise in car. This post has been edited by DT89: Mar 18 2016, 12:24 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Mar 20 2016, 02:01 AM
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Hi mozact89
Planning to buy a jetta with the new promo, since you are a jetta owner would you mind sharing the maintainece costs breakdown? And your sc experience would help, thanks. |
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Mar 20 2016, 06:07 AM
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QUOTE(DT89 @ Mar 18 2016, 09:58 AM) more than a polo/ jetta 😆 U can use aquarium hose to reduce the rubber squeky sound. Cost u around rm5 only to buy 5 meter hose.btw I'm a jetta 2014 user and has no problems to date aside from squeaky rubber door seal noise in car. |
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Mar 20 2016, 06:15 AM
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QUOTE(moespada @ Mar 20 2016, 02:01 AM) Hi mozact89 First service at 15k - rm510Planning to buy a jetta with the new promo, since you are a jetta owner would you mind sharing the maintainece costs breakdown? And your sc experience would help, thanks. 2nd service at 30k - rm6** 3rd service at 45k - rm7** 4th service at 60k (major with plug and dsg oil change) - Rm1600 I recommend you to change dsg oil at 30k also. Please request SC to do that. Price for DSG oil only rm120. I also recommend you to the interval 7500 engine oil change outside. Thats what i do. Service at 7500(change engine oil only) - rm250 (liqui molly) Service at 22500(change engine oil only) - rm250 (liqui molly) Service at 37500 - rm250 Service at 52500 - rm250 Im now at mileage 50k. SC experience, so far so good. During begining getting the car, i claim warranty on paint which was feel rough. If u want ur sc to do fast, u need to report to VGM also regarding the problem. |
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Should i go for Passat 2015? Any gearbox advice?
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Mar 21 2016, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Mar 20 2016, 06:15 AM) First service at 15k - rm510 Mozact, intermediate service where did you go for the service? (which mechanic)2nd service at 30k - rm6** 3rd service at 45k - rm7** 4th service at 60k (major with plug and dsg oil change) - Rm1600 I recommend you to change dsg oil at 30k also. Please request SC to do that. Price for DSG oil only rm120. I also recommend you to the interval 7500 engine oil change outside. Thats what i do. Service at 7500(change engine oil only) - rm250 (liqui molly) Service at 22500(change engine oil only) - rm250 (liqui molly) Service at 37500 - rm250 Service at 52500 - rm250 Im now at mileage 50k. SC experience, so far so good. During begining getting the car, i claim warranty on paint which was feel rough. If u want ur sc to do fast, u need to report to VGM also regarding the problem. for service at SC during 15k 30k u use LM also? |
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Mar 21 2016, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE(wearnude3232 @ Mar 21 2016, 06:34 PM) Mozact, intermediate service where did you go for the service? (which mechanic) At sc i service using castrol.for service at SC during 15k 30k u use LM also? I service at Modz Motorsport kajang. Kakimotor sunway also can price almost the same.. |
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Mar 22 2016, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Mar 21 2016, 08:26 PM) At sc i service using castrol. Thanks bro, 250 LM engine oil saja or include labour? If inclusive then quite cheap.I service at Modz Motorsport kajang. Kakimotor sunway also can price almost the same.. |
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Mar 22 2016, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Mar 20 2016, 06:07 AM) U can use aquarium hose to reduce the rubber squeky sound. Cost u around rm5 only to buy 5 meter hose. Yeh that's what I've heard from you guys on jetta Fb, mind sharing some pics of how it's done ? Thanks a bunch !! |
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Mar 22 2016, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(wearnude3232 @ Mar 22 2016, 08:36 AM) Thanks bro, 250 LM engine oil saja or include labour? If inclusive then quite cheap. Inclusive.. Change oil easy only. Total if im not mistaken rm265 |
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Mar 22 2016, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(DT89 @ Mar 22 2016, 08:58 AM) Yeh that's what I've heard from you guys on jetta Fb, mind sharing some pics of how it's done ? Thanks a bunch !! Bro whats the jetta fb group name? Getting a jetta soon...LOL |
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Mar 22 2016, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(DT89 @ Mar 22 2016, 08:58 AM) Yeh that's what I've heard from you guys on jetta Fb, mind sharing some pics of how it's done ? Thanks a bunch !!  |
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Mar 22 2016, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(shadowofevil @ Mar 22 2016, 02:33 PM) Bro whats the jetta fb group name? Getting a jetta soon...LOL VW jetta club Malaysia |
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Mar 22 2016, 06:04 PM
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Mar 22 2016, 06:08 PM
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Mar 22 2016, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE(DT89 @ Mar 22 2016, 06:04 PM) ooooo so that's how it's supposed to be.... 👌 bye bye squeaky door noises. Can reduce but not 100% la.. |
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Mar 22 2016, 09:01 PM) Can reduce but not 100% la.. I've actually managed to remove the noise entirely by applying some tire shine over ALL the door rubber seals. But gotta re-apply every 2-3 weeks, if lazy to do it then the noise will slowly squeek back into my car. 😅 |
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Mar 23 2016, 12:37 AM
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Mar 21 2016, 08:26 PM) At sc i service using castrol. Which LM lube you are using? Toptec 4100?I service at Modz Motorsport kajang. Kakimotor sunway also can price almost the same.. |
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Mar 23 2016, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(DT89 @ Mar 22 2016, 06:04 PM) ooooo so that's how it's supposed to be.... 👌 bye bye squeaky door noises. what is this for? reduce wind sound?? better NVH? |
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Mar 23 2016, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(opjust @ Mar 23 2016, 11:42 AM) what is this for? reduce wind sound?? better NVH? It's some squeaky noises caused by the door seal rubbing against door surface and other seal. You won't realize it during test drive, only after a while of owning it you'll come to realize it's squeeking even more especially when driving slowly on bumpy roads with radio turned off. |
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Mar 23 2016, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(DT89 @ Mar 23 2016, 11:55 AM) It's some squeaky noises caused by the door seal rubbing against door surface and other seal. You won't realize it during test drive, only after a while of owning it you'll come to realize it's squeeking even more especially when driving slowly on bumpy roads with radio turned off. ah I see... i should pay attention to that after this... never hear anything before... |
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Hi Guys, I need help. I am contemplating between these 3 cars: VW Passat (new 2014 make), Mondeo (pre-reg 2015), and 2016 Teana 2.0 XL. The prices are all more and less the same. I am so confused. HELP me guys.
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Mar 23 2016, 07:49 PM
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Why not just test drive the three and see which one suits you?
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Mar 22 2016, 01:39 PM) Inclusive.. Change oil easy only. Total if im not mistaken rm265 I use LM toptec 4100, engine oil only no filter already 300++ . which LM oil you use? |
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QUOTE(leoarmada @ Mar 23 2016, 07:03 PM) Hi Guys, I need help. I am contemplating between these 3 cars: VW Passat (new 2014 make), Mondeo (pre-reg 2015), and 2016 Teana 2.0 XL. The prices are all more and less the same. I am so confused. HELP me guys. get mondeo. spacious..power..handling.. wet dual clutch teana the worst handling among 3. paasat is less spacious among 3 |
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Mar 23 2016, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(wearnude3232 @ Mar 23 2016, 09:33 PM) I use LM toptec 4100, engine oil only no filter already 300++ . which LM oil you use? If change with oil filter rm340 at my place.. 5w40 liqui moly. Forgot what is it.. |
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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Mar 23 2016, 07:49 PM) Why not just test drive the three and see which one suits you? I have tested all three : all are good. I have never been this confused. Passat : worried about the reliability but addictive acceleration Mondeo: so super rare but fully loaded with lots of features Teana : so low maintenance cost. And looks kind of expensive and stylish too..but just too much of plasticky here and there. This post has been edited by leoarmada: Mar 24 2016, 07:45 AM |
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Mar 24 2016, 07:43 AM
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QUOTE(leoarmada @ Mar 24 2016, 12:41 AM) I have tested all three : all are good. I have never be this confused. Just go for the Teana la.Passat : worried about the reliability but addictive acceleration Mondeo: so super rare but fully loaded Teana : so low maintenance cost. And looks kind of expensive and stylish... |
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QUOTE(leoarmada @ Mar 24 2016, 12:41 AM) I have tested all three : all are good. I have never been this confused. Mondeo.. But the pricing for Mondeo is far more exp than Passat n teana right..Passat : worried about the reliability but addictive acceleration Mondeo: so super rare but fully loaded with lots of features Teana : so low maintenance cost. And looks kind of expensive and stylish too..but just too much of plasticky here and there. I would put it in this order Mondeo, Passat and teana would be last choice. |
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my brother test drive passat recently. he was happy the way the passat drives and responded. the sales mgr said it is now going for 123k rm. but my brother ask for vw to sign that the dsg problem is not a problem longer and if it happens he will get a replacement car for the time they take to fix. the manager declined saying he thinks our hot weather could not guarantee the dsg issue although the mineral oil and a few changes have been performed on all passats now. |
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QUOTE(gorengpisang9 @ Mar 24 2016, 09:39 AM) my brother test drive passat recently. he was happy the way the passat drives and responded. the sales mgr said it is now going for 123k rm. but my brother ask for vw to sign that the dsg problem is not a problem longer and if it happens he will get a replacement car for the time they take to fix. the manager declined saying he thinks our hot weather could not guarantee the dsg issue although the mineral oil and a few changes have been performed on all passats now. I wonder how many of you people know exactly what are the problems that plague DSG has/have?The following issues can plague the DQ200 7 speed dry clutch 1. Manual car like juddering at low speeds - you can't fix this, it's a characteristic of the gearbox. Whether it is mechanical or programming, it behaves like a manual car during half clutch. The problem is compounded when the clutch plate is worn. Thus people think it is a problem. Replacing the clutch will ensure the juddering is at a minimal, but it is still there if you really take notice. 2. Mechatronic failure - This problem is still there although most of the newer (2014 onwards) seems to have had this issue resolved. Not everyone will experience it. These days, the problem goes away permanently after the first replacement, although some people have had to replace it 2 to 3 times (2011 batch or earlier are more prone to this). Parts are now plentiful for this item, replacement usually takes 3 days or less. For some people, the mechatronics unit is replaced within 24 hours. 3. Clutch plate wear - This problem is due to wear and tear. Our traffic conditions wears the clutch plate faster, especially if you leave the car driving in D mode in slow traffic. Driving in manual mode is recommended in slow traffic to preserve your clutch. A replacement unit cost: RM2000 As far as I know, the only real problem is mechatronics failure. Everything else is either a characteristic of the gearbox or due to wear and tear. |
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Mar 24 2016, 10:46 AM) I wonder how many of you people know exactly what are the problems that plague DSG has/have? Wow that wear n tear for clutch is 2k. The following issues can plague the DQ200 7 speed dry clutch 1. Manual car like juddering at low speeds - you can't fix this, it's a characteristic of the gearbox. Whether it is mechanical or programming, it behaves like a manual car during half clutch. The problem is compounded when the clutch plate is worn. Thus people think it is a problem. Replacing the clutch will ensure the juddering is at a minimal, but it is still there if you really take notice. 2. Mechatronic failure - This problem is still there although most of the newer (2014 onwards) seems to have had this issue resolved. Not everyone will experience it. These days, the problem goes away permanently after the first replacement, although some people have had to replace it 2 to 3 times (2011 batch or earlier are more prone to this). Parts are now plentiful for this item, replacement usually takes 3 days or less. For some people, the mechatronics unit is replaced within 24 hours. 3. Clutch plate wear - This problem is due to wear and tear. Our traffic conditions wears the clutch plate faster, especially if you leave the car driving in D mode in slow traffic. Driving in manual mode is recommended in slow traffic to preserve your clutch. A replacement unit cost: RM2000 As far as I know, the only real problem is mechatronics failure. Everything else is either a characteristic of the gearbox or due to wear and tear. |
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No one seems to mention this car loses value like mad. Even Audi dont face such crazy depreciation. Worst of all, some used car dealers are not accepting dsg7 models.
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QUOTE(mozact89 @ Mar 16 2016, 05:32 PM) Dont test it bro.. I cancel my sylphy booking after test drive jetta bro.. Hahaha Tested the car..... paid RM500 booking.... now waiting the loan....... I love the acceleration man..... |
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QUOTE(stix @ Mar 24 2016, 11:41 AM) No one seems to mention this car loses value like mad. Even Audi dont face such crazy depreciation. Worst of all, some used car dealers are not accepting dsg7 models. Ya what to do  That's why whoever that buys it during the VW drop everything sale now can get their money's worth. Assuming if they take a 3 to 5 year loan. I mean worse comes to worse, when sell off the car, can at least sell it at Vios / City trade in prices, lol. |
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Mar 24 2016, 10:46 AM) I wonder how many of you people know exactly what are the problems that plague DSG has/have? Piston crack issue?The following issues can plague the DQ200 7 speed dry clutch 1. Manual car like juddering at low speeds - you can't fix this, it's a characteristic of the gearbox. Whether it is mechanical or programming, it behaves like a manual car during half clutch. The problem is compounded when the clutch plate is worn. Thus people think it is a problem. Replacing the clutch will ensure the juddering is at a minimal, but it is still there if you really take notice. 2. Mechatronic failure - This problem is still there although most of the newer (2014 onwards) seems to have had this issue resolved. Not everyone will experience it. These days, the problem goes away permanently after the first replacement, although some people have had to replace it 2 to 3 times (2011 batch or earlier are more prone to this). Parts are now plentiful for this item, replacement usually takes 3 days or less. For some people, the mechatronics unit is replaced within 24 hours. 3. Clutch plate wear - This problem is due to wear and tear. Our traffic conditions wears the clutch plate faster, especially if you leave the car driving in D mode in slow traffic. Driving in manual mode is recommended in slow traffic to preserve your clutch. A replacement unit cost: RM2000 As far as I know, the only real problem is mechatronics failure. Everything else is either a characteristic of the gearbox or due to wear and tear. |
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Thank You all for the enlightenment. You guys are really good and knowledgeable. I wish I was such and able to decide on which car to buy.
:-(  My loan just got approved for Mondeo. Mondeo is so rare, I have never seen 1 on the road yet. Plus it is fairly the newer car comparable with the new passat B8. Worried if Autoconexion's tech can repair it if there are problems. However, Passat B7's price is so irresistible  This post has been edited by leoarmada: Mar 24 2016, 02:09 PM |
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QUOTE(Thrust @ Mar 24 2016, 01:49 PM) Piston crack issue? Nothing to do with DSG what. That's engine. But as far as I know, it commonly affects only the 1.4 tsi twincharged engine model.This post has been edited by zweimmk: Mar 24 2016, 02:19 PM |
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QUOTE(wearnude3232 @ Mar 24 2016, 09:03 AM) Mondeo.. But the pricing for Mondeo is far more exp than Passat n teana right.. Yeah Mondeo is the most expensive from the lot. It has adaptive cruise control though. I would put it in this order Mondeo, Passat and teana would be last choice. Not sure the actual Fuel consumption of these cars. Supposingly, Passat is better. Googled but so many different values. |
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Mar 24 2016, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Mar 24 2016, 02:18 PM) Nothing to do with DSG what. That's engine. Piston crack reported on Passat? |
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Mar 24 2016, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(leoarmada @ Mar 24 2016, 02:19 PM) Piston crack reported on Passat? Buy Mondeo already then no point asking is there?No, piston crack is not reported for the 1.8tsi EA888 engine. Unless the owner mod the car until over 350+hp then that's a different story |
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Mar 24 2016, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(leoarmada @ Mar 24 2016, 02:19 PM) Piston crack reported on Passat? Piston crack mostly on 1.4 tsi.. But not as frequent as the infamous dsg.. BTW, the mechatronic depends very much on driving style n weather condition during operation.. But the problem have been lesser nowadays. Lutch wear n tear can't be avoided. I changed to Audi clutch plate.. According to them can last longer as it's diff frm the one used by vw . I don't know if it's true |
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