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Steam Steam Promotion, Discussion and FAQ Thread V43, Worst Steam sales ever?

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post Jul 4 2014, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(cracksys @ Jul 4 2014, 04:05 PM)
lol.

this morning, i just found out that

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very wow. much mechanic.
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God damnit, now i want to start playing the game.
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post Jul 4 2014, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(limjenson @ Jul 4 2014, 04:09 PM)
God damnit, stop the poison!
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Eh, why you no buy? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

I am playing Grid Autosport a lot now. Divinity is on the backlog for "now".
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post Jul 4 2014, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(Darkz01 @ Jul 4 2014, 04:15 PM)
dont forget to give your review... biggrin.gif
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Cant do review for Grid yet, apparently some Elite tag forumer said one cannot do a review unless you had finished the game.

It is a lengthy one, as I set the race duration to be double of what it is designed that resulted longer but much more exciting race battles. It drives decently, albeit a bit tail happy for a lot of cars but each car feels very different. There are a lot of race tracks to drive around which is great, and I love how they had done Sepang in the game. It look beautiful in the game.



It is probably my favourite racing game in the last few years.
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post Jul 5 2014, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(memphiz_zero88 @ Jul 5 2014, 11:10 AM)
later my waifu mad at me dry.gif
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I guess your one is the middle one right?
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post Jul 5 2014, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(memphiz_zero88 @ Jul 5 2014, 12:30 PM)
this is my waifu. so lovely wub.gif  wub.gif  wub.gif

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post Jul 5 2014, 02:52 PM

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ah crap, Love Trousers is on sale now on Humble. sweat.gif

Why are you doing this to me? cry.gif
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post Jul 6 2014, 01:01 PM

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If the DLC has meaty content with reasonable pricing, I don't see why not. Just look at the Skyrim DLC or Borderlands 2 season pass, they do offer a decent value of content for the price to pay.

If its like CoH2's DLC where you pay $5 for a commander with 5 abilities, then hell no.

In short if it feels like an expansion, then it is ok.

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post Jul 7 2014, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(ChocChristy @ Jul 7 2014, 07:45 PM)
TotalBiscuit talking about why some regions are cheaper.... why aren't we getting cheaper games since our piracy is high and our income is low?  sad.gif
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I think we will get cheaper pricing soon, via local currency on Steam.

The region lock is also in place to prevent cross region trading.
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post Jul 8 2014, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Jul 8 2014, 07:42 PM)
Micro-transaction is only one of the option in MyClub mode which is a reworked Master League Online mode, which is also an equivalent mode to FIFA's UT. Please check your facts first since the game is looking promising based on several leaked videos.

Also the retail and Gamesplanet version are never region-locked.
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If I am paying $60 for your game, there should not be microtrasactions in them. I dont care you have 50 Ronaldos in PES by playing for free but the issue is when you have microtransaction, leveling process will be extended into a grind to inflict pain on the gamers to encourage them to pay up. Game experience will be altered to push microtransaction sales.

Microtransactions is a quick way to make money, in exchange of consumer's trust.
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post Jul 8 2014, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Jul 8 2014, 08:13 PM)
Microtransactions aren't going to bother me as long as they keep it online only. In fact it might encourage me to play MLO more because i'm not going to waste my time grinding my way just to get a decent 70 something rated player. If you really have played MLO you should understand how tedious it can be. These day i see microtransaction as another option, that usually only the hardcore player will bite.

Beside in PES / WE case, more money to the game maker is not automatically a bad thing. It's no secret the game has to endure turbulent path with inadequate staff and several othe cost-cutting measure by KONAMI HQ. They have like only a few hundreds user online at the same time.
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There is nothing wrong with more money for the game creators but the problem, most of the time, the money doesnt not go back to the creators themselves but taken up by the few executives of the company.

At the same time, paying a $60 game then asking you pay for microtransaction continuously is a hell no. Games cost upwards of RM100 to RM200 these days, and why the heck I should pay more for so little content when these things are literally free back then. If its so expensive to make these games now, then dont make such expensive games where the fact is, there are games like Divinity Original Sin, Wasteland or Project CARS managed to develop games with small budget. That seemed more like mismanagement on Konami's part and pass all the wastage of funds into consumers hands.

Hardcore players or not, contents should not be put behind a paywall or force "free" players to grind for it. I am playing a game, not a second job to work for my progress in games. And there is no saying that MLO features will not spread to offline mode in the next few iteration of the game.

If a game developer wants to force microtrasactions on its consumer, I wont buy the game as I do not wish to be part of their scheme to manipulate their customer to pay up for microtransactions by psychology. If not, I'll use region lock trading to get the game with lesser revenue for the company.

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post Jul 8 2014, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Jul 8 2014, 08:24 PM)
The graphics are nothing special, but not horrible. The player faces, body build and the stadium looking better than FIFA.

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RvP looks stunningly life-like.
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Right, your comment on the graphics are based on some off camera footage which is even blurry than the screenshot.

When racing games could make smooth shadows on their games, I really dont see what is it so hard to make smooth shadows on a stadium with 22 players, ignoring the spectators. Looks like it is just Konami refuse to polish up the graphics while decide to force microtrasactions on its users.

Most Japanese publishers these days are god damn awful.
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post Jul 8 2014, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Jul 8 2014, 08:33 PM)
I'm sorry Cheese, any long-time PES player will agreed with me that PES / WE have 1001 problems but micro-transactions ain't one of them, not at the moment. First they should rediscover what used to made PES / WE an instant classic, a game that FUN to play.
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Once you have microtrasactions, it is a problem that is more severe than any other problem PES has. Microtrasactions are rarely designed in a way to be beneficial to gamers but it is used as an alternative revenue stream by forcing the gullible ones or the "time limited" ones to pay up for barely any content while making the game unnecessarily grindy for everyone. The "time limited" players did not have any issues playing older PES so why there is an option to charge players to skip?

Microtrasactions should not even be in the game of any genre to begin with regardless it is online only or for all.

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post Jul 8 2014, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Jul 8 2014, 09:32 PM)
It might effect the Master League mode offline too. Since they say it's Master League in general.
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From what I read on Polygon a few days ago, it looked like it affects everyone, not just online.

Stop putting microtrasactions into my games. Thanks.

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post Jul 9 2014, 10:02 AM

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The Humble Bundle kinda sucked.

Whats with the constantly increasing BTA? It was $6.50 an hour ago and now its $7.
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post Jul 9 2014, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(limjenson @ Jul 9 2014, 10:16 AM)
Some generous ppl paying more than the BTA or buying the 3rd tier ever increasing the BTA.

This morning it was 5.XX
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Feel like its humble artificially inflating the price.
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post Jul 10 2014, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(miraclejustin @ Jul 9 2014, 08:46 PM)
Although 2k has publish a lot of great game. I really don't like their DLC marketing plan, especially gearbox borderlands series. Bought BL2 and regret it cause GOTY version is more worth the money. It made the earlier buyer feel stupid. Worst of all, even BL2 GOTY version doesn't include all DLC.

DLC suck.
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Even though Borderlands has tonnes of DLC, most of the DLCs actually adds new content and gameplay, whats wrong with that?

At least they did not shove in microtransactions in their games.
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post Jul 10 2014, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(limjenson @ Jul 10 2014, 03:18 PM)
If my paypal has no funds but it's linked to a credit card, I can still transfer to him?
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It will deduct from your credit card.
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post Jul 10 2014, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(ray148 @ Jul 10 2014, 05:45 PM)
So...this game is pretty popular all of a sudden: http://store.steampowered.com/app/304930/

It's like DayZ but with simpler graphic and was made by a lone 16-years old.
F2P.
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As if we need more survival and voxel games.

The kid's work is amazing but I am getting sick of all these survival and zombie games.
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post Jul 10 2014, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(limjenson @ Jul 10 2014, 05:54 PM)
Honestly...for 16 yo. That is awesome. Hopefully he will go on to create great games instead of Zombie Survival.
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The kid has talent but the genre is getting incredibly tiring to me.
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post Jul 11 2014, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(miraclejustin @ Jul 10 2014, 11:13 PM)
Obviously DLC adds NEW things into the gameplay. Problem is that the 'new' content was suppose to be in the game from the beginning. Borderlands is till a good game, a good game shatter into multiple small pieces. I would totally support BL3 in the future but I shall wait till the REAL COMPLETE GOTY version publish first.

Micro-transactions is the evolution successor of DLC, instead of breaking game into small pieces, they break it into micro pieces...lol.
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You know that a lot of content become DLC because they cant finish it on time? Or it is actually made after the game has gone certification which 2 months for consoles because it is stupid to pay your developers when they sit around and do nothing. Not every developer took out finished content and sell it as DLC. BL2 evidently isnt one of those developers because even the core game has tonnes of content.

DLC can be a bad policy but Borderlands 2 isnt a bad example of awful DLC representation. And BL2's DLC is not even a small chunk of content. They are fairly meaty, especially the Tiny Tina DLC while class DLCs offers brand new ways to play which adds dozens of hours if you want to replay the game.

If you bought the game early on and played quite a bit, what is there to butthurt over a GOTY version when you had enjoyed it first? I bought BL2 and the Season Pass on a sale, the total price was much cheaper than GOTY in the previous sale.

These days, paying high price for a game means that you get to enjoy the game first, not 6 months to years down the line when everyone is finished and dumped the game. If you are so cheapsake, then, do not ever preorder a game.

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