Johnson can gtfo !

it isnt the player let us down le.. it was the formation the 4-3-3 makes hell alot of diff

This form allows speedy wingers to attack our sides.
Unless our wingbacks are tip top, hmmmmmmm

Actually apart from Coates, the starting defence was very poor IMO

Falcon punch !

Won't be long before Sterling will be another £75m player. His development under BR is just amazing. Needs to keep his head and keep on working. Can be a great player.

Struriddge missed Suarez. Suarez was his perfect partner in crime. Hassle and wind up opposing defenders while Stur sneaks in for a sniff at goal. I think Stur will struggle to hit form like last season unless we get him a good partner. He needs someone to compete with, otherwise he will try too hard to score and might just crumble.

Coates looking good (at least for this game). BR should play him more in Cup ties and gradually move him to 1st 11 or at least on the bench.

Gleno? Can we pool some money and get him a cab? Send him somewhere else!

IMHO, Struj was not going to pass the ball to Hendo. somehow the ball slipped away from him into Hendo's path nicely for the shot. but i don't see it as a pass from Struj to Hendo

how was Struj's performance during the match? too selfish? though a striker do need to be selfish at times, i think he needs to start to think about others as well.
shown promising growth as a player as well 

You must have missed what he had done for Sunderland last season..
Strikers arent made just for scoring goals, sometimes the contributions comes from running dummy runs to create space for teammates, hardworking attitude to tracking back, helping out the defense or even assist that leads to goals and so on...

What do u guyz think about Lucas...? I think he can be useful for the coming season. He brings calm and control and he sure can play forward pass. It is when he defends in our half that he can be a liability with late or mistimed tackle

Sturridge can be Suarez replacement and Sterling can be Sturridge replacement.

No marquee please.

Depth over name any day of the week.

so Liverpool can have 100 players. Thats what they called as a big team no?

Do you care to elaborate on my point being contradicting, contradicted to what?
Marquee signing is not a solution for every problem. For instance take Arsenal; last season they signed Ozil for their marquee signing and dismissed the need to address their squad depth properly (DM and Striker mainly), they go for a 'name' for a position that they don't even need. How did that work out for them? And we on the other hand promoting from within (Flanno, Hendo, Sterling), still finished better than them.

And do you remember how we signed Carroll for marquee signing and end up being poor and the other signing which is not a marquee (Suarez) being more successful.

Plus, BR already said he want more depth, with CL football (as you mentioned), we will need more players than we ever need to cover those fixtures and other factors (tired, suspension, injury etc).

Yes, what I'm saying is we need depth over name / marquee signing. Because usually big name does command huge transfer fee; hence the word marquee.

He is marquee alright. His transfer fee was 2nd in that transfer windows. [Clicky]. When the deal takes place doesn't changed the fact he was the marquee signing for that window for us or even in the world at that time. You will be amazed with other players below him that command less transfer fee )in that link I given). *Understand the word marquee signing in sport industry first.

If we don't need depth or have enough depth, we will not be needing 'another fullback or striker' anymore. The fact we need to make a few signing to cover for those position meaning we still pretty thin despite what people believe. *Optionally need 1 or 2 players more means we are lack of squad deth. Ok then.

Depth brings competition for place on the table; look at Glen Johnson last season, without proper competition he is piss poor, because he knew he would go straight to the first 11 regardless of how he play. *Agree that competition bring the good out of a player, but we do have Kelly and Flanno, BR still prefer Johnson.

Do you think we gonna have any money left for marquee signing if we signed another 2,3 player for cover? Before Suarez sell, we have £60M transfer kitty to spend, add that to £75M from Suarez, brings us to £135M. So far we signed Lambert (£4M), Lallana (£25M), Markovic (£20M), Can (£10M), Origi (£10M) and Lovren (£20M); and that leave us for £46M (with probably Moreno coming for £20M). Hardly anything left for a marquee signing if we gonna sign another striker. *We still have the other income, and the marquee signing I kept on wishing, is on the forward role.

While the logic is there and I admit both quite a perspective, but which one is better? Buy 1 marquee for £30+M / £40+M or buy depth (2,3 players) for that money while the chances for them to flop is the same? I would surely try my luck with 2,3 players rather that blow it all in one player. *Now where do you come out with that logic with the chances of flop is the same? Logically thinking and with several facts, talented and established player at European level are not likely to flop. Just look at BR transfer so far, only Sturridge and Coutinho turns out good, all others is either flop or doesn't get the chance to play.

Yeah, can't argue with that.

Definitely need a forward if Borini plans to go.. (I wish he goes )

I am hoping for Reus but reality I think we will get a sub 20mil forward

*Understand the word marquee signing in sport industry first.
Well, you are the one that saying it is two way roads "I would also use your word, which is a "marquee" or an expensive player who had great establishment at European football doesn't guarantee success with us. I could use the same logic for mediocre player, which doesn't guarantee they will do good with us too.". I'm just returning the favor, because if you want to said it is two way road, the chances to success or flop are the same. Logically speaking.

Funny you said Sturridge and Coutinho, were they not a mediocre players when they joined us, or can't even get a place in their previous club?

Being established in Europe doesn't necessarily up their chances being successful; Sheva, Torres etc.

While the logic is there and I admit both quite a perspective, but which one is better? Buy 1 marquee for £30+M / £40+M or buy depth (2,3 players) for that money while the chances for them to flop is the same? I would surely try my luck with 2,3 players rather that blow it all in one player.

Its not impossible to put 20million on the bench bro.
Look what ManU did on 6 or 7 years ago...
Bought Nani 25.5 million, and also Anderson for reportedly 30 million
And they became bench warmer.
Just a quick good laugh!

So, you can lay out your logic 1 out of 100 and such and such, but when other people made an 'assumption' on the same basis, they gets Do you even know what the hell you are talking about? Baffling. Way to go on trying to discus things.

LOL LOL My 1 out of 100 assumption was way after you accuse me of using that logic of the same chances to flop, you use that logic way before that man, so don't say I can use 1 out of 100 assumption and you can't.. JUST WHT THE FARK IS WRONG WITH YOU?
Look now look, I am not saying I can use 1 out of 100 assumption, and you can't use same chances of flop assumption. I was pointing that you was using that logic way before I use it, so don't FUKING tell me I can use, so you could use too. Read on every post you made, and every reply I made. For god sake, stop pusing like a ballet dancer.

Anyway, my bad there, I will not use 1 out of 100 assumption, but facts points that marquee are less likely to flop, happy with this word now? LESS LIKELY.


Buying expensive player doesn't make the player a marquee signing if his ability is not up to standard.[/color]

It is right now, is it not? Don't you remember how the staff and the club sold us Carroll by saying he is great talent, old school CF and such, the way media goes make we think we get someone with ability that should command huge fee, but is he really up for scratch? Marquee and expensive nowadays are related to each other. It is the way of transfer market today. You can't get athlete of exceptional skill and especially popular players if you don't pay top money. Do you not agree with me there?

Da hell is this, Carroll is not even talented, he's just one season wonder at Newcastle, and we bought him sort of like panic buy. Oh god, please understand what is marquee for whatever sake.

People tend to forget, Liverpool don't buy big name players, we are the one that makes them. And we are so good at it.

Arsenal is the one good in nurturing young talent.

If he is younger by 10 years, I will fly to UK to ask BR to sign him