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post Jun 17 2014, 02:48 PM, updated 12y ago

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I got my hands on Xiami Mi3 last month so after using it for a while, I'm going to compare my user experience with Android (MIUI seems to be one heavily modified Android OS, but I guess basic function still the same) and with WP8.

First off, I'm not a very tech savy person. I changed hp around every 2 years and mostly I change platforms every time to keep things fresh. I bought Lumia 920 after using my N8, so the WP OS looks very fresh to me. Coming from N8 and Symbian, WP8 is very smooth, fast and beautiful. Two years past, I sorta get bored with my WP8, one of the main reasons is the lack of apps, it is sorta boring to see all my friends and colleagues playing the 'in-game' on their androids and ios devices. And with the recent Xiaomi craze, I thought, why not try one?

So I bought Xiaomi Mi3 and has a really great time with it. I'm going to compare my experience with it and with the WP8, and see what WP did wrong, what it can improve and what it did right.

First, for the OS, WP8 earns point for being beautiful, and this is why I go to WP and not Android the first time. I just love the concept of live tiles, animating tiles and very beautiful. Android only has the icons and widgets, which are not so beautiful when mixed together. However, I really love the widget's actual function. Take the music player widget for example, I can actually directly play music from it and does not even need to go into the app to do so. Same goes with the weather app, I can actually flip through few weather information on the different area without entering the app. Compared to Android, WP8's live tiles are kinda useless functional wise. It does not help that sometimes the live information shown does not even work....

The notification system in my Mi3 works better than the system in my Lumia 920, notification comes on time, but I notice that fb messenger still got the same problem, probably fb issues. I like that I have some control on the music player etc on the notification pull down list as well, and more access to more settings in my Mi3.

I do miss my Lumia 920's camera ability, and that wireless charging, but that's more on the OEM though.

The one area that Android is absolutely killing WP8 is the app. You can say that WP8 has enough app, but that definitely is not true, and the app quality in Android is way better than those in WP8 (and I heard it's even better in iOS). Compare facebook in android and to facebook in wp8, the quality is too far apart. FB on android is smooth, upload and viewing pictures fast, WP8's are slow as hell. Same goes with Whatsapp, LINE (with actual LINE games that WP8 lacks) and etc, not to mention all those extra games (the hot games like Hay Day etc) in Android but WP8 lacks. With Android, I now have access to good local apps such as CIMB banking apps, cinema apps that really add to my day to day life. WP must absolutely salvage the app problems. After seeing all the apps available in Android, I honestly can't recommend any normal people to use WP, unless they just want to try things out....

So yeah....I guess I can say that I make a good choice to leave WP? It definitely opens my eyes to how better the other platforms are. WP is playing catching up, but I think they are way too slow. I will probably move on to iOS after I'm done with Android to test out new stuffs, but I definitely hope that WP will improve, especially the app areas...or they probably will get slaughtered in the increasing competitive market, especially with the onslaught of highly affordable china phones....

What's your thoughts? Discuss away!

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post Jun 17 2014, 09:03 PM

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Im considering to switch from android to WP. The interface caught my attention. Android is just so boring yawn.gif

However lack of apps in WP did stop me from taking futher action hmm.gif

If lack of banking apps still fine since can login via browser. But whassap also dont have ka?
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post Jun 17 2014, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(apj8188 @ Jun 17 2014, 09:03 PM)
Im considering to switch from android to WP. The interface caught my attention. Android is just so boring yawn.gif

However lack of apps in WP did stop me from taking futher action hmm.gif

If lack of banking apps still fine since can login via browser. But whassap also dont have ka?
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The key social app such as facebook, whatsapp, instagram etc are available in WP8, although the quality are not as good as those available on android. Whatsapp imo is probably the most stable social app on WP8 for now
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post Jun 18 2014, 09:36 AM

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I've had the same experience as you too. My mum bought a HTC One M7 so I tinkered with her phone over the past two days.

The interface was rather cluttered at first, but after removing all the extra features, Android is actually rather clean and intuitive. WP still has the upper hand in terms of overall sleekness, but Android is definitely not as bad as people make it out to be.

As for apps, I am quite frustrated not with the selection, but QUALITY of apps we currently have. I am not really a follower of the latest fads and I only frequent a few apps so to me, our selection is adequate, its just that most apps are badly made.

I wouldn't mind a jump to Android, but my phone still works fine and the benefits there dont really convince me to dump my phone right away. But who knows? We'll see in the future =)
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post Jun 18 2014, 08:47 PM

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after the latest update of wp 8.1 dev, it become faster to resume (less than 1 second, before than it might take 2-3 seconds)....

one thing the best experience after using lumia 820 almost 1.5 years, the phone performance still as same as when i bought it...

if android, after few months, u either format or root to latest rom to get the best performance....
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post Jun 18 2014, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(xSean @ Jun 18 2014, 08:47 PM)
after the latest update of wp 8.1 dev, it become faster to resume (less than 1 second, before than it might take 2-3 seconds)....

one thing the best experience after using lumia 820 almost 1.5 years, the phone performance still as same as when i bought it...

if android, after few months, u either format or root to latest rom to get the best performance....
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But whats the point of having the best performance when you have nothing to use it on? When i look at all the new apps and games I want to cry because it is not available on windows store
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post Jun 18 2014, 10:44 PM

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looks like window apps development is the biggest concern hmm.gif

does WP browser works exactly like IE in PC?
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post Jun 19 2014, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(xSean @ Jun 18 2014, 08:47 PM)
after the latest update of wp 8.1 dev, it become faster to resume (less than 1 second, before than it might take 2-3 seconds)....

one thing the best experience after using lumia 820 almost 1.5 years, the phone performance still as same as when i bought it...

if android, after few months, u either format or root to latest rom to get the best performance....
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I have heard about all this android will lag, WP will not lag talk. How true is it? Granted, I have only used my new phone for about a month, but so far the performance has been flawless.

I do agree with what capsulr has said though

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post Jun 19 2014, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(apj8188 @ Jun 18 2014, 10:44 PM)
looks like window apps development is the biggest concern hmm.gif
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I think another bigger concern is that Microsoft is so hell bent on winning the us market that everywhere else suffered as a result. For example our BING is featureless unless we switch to US region but even then we are very very restricted. Microsoft is way obsessed with US market that they don't even bother to do anything else with the rest of the world. Reading WP forums, I can see that most of the users are satisfied for in the US side, there are US banking and cinema apps available to them. But for Malaysia, no one make the app for Malaysian, and thus WP suffered and unable to win casual users.
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post Jun 19 2014, 09:40 AM

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It is either iOS or Android, period. No point wasting time with WP8, Blackberry, some other shit like Amazon fire dan lain lain.
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post Jun 19 2014, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(LightningZERO @ Jun 19 2014, 09:34 AM)
I think another bigger concern is that Microsoft is so hell bent on winning the us market that everywhere else suffered as a result. For example our BING is featureless unless we switch to US region but even then we are very very restricted. Microsoft is way obsessed with US market that they don't even bother to do anything else with the rest of the world. Reading WP forums, I can see that most of the users are satisfied for in the US side, there are US banking and cinema apps available to them. But for Malaysia, no one make the app for Malaysian, and thus WP suffered and unable to win casual users.
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Lets group a few IT pro and swallow this out-side-US cake icon_idea.gif
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post Jun 19 2014, 12:03 PM

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You may have left WP8 too soon, hope you give WP8.1 & Cyan Update a try when it comes out in a month or 2. Im also a Lumia 920 user with WP8.1 Developers Preview.

If you are truly going to use Bank apps on Android its best advise to install antivirus.

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post Jun 19 2014, 12:08 PM

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I used iOS, Android and WP before... for me, Android is the best..

Used WP for only one day then change back to android. I promise to myself that I won't let my future kids to buy WP. If they do, I will disown them.



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post Jun 19 2014, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(crewl227 @ Jun 19 2014, 12:08 PM)
I used iOS, Android and WP before... for me, Android is the best..

Used WP for only one day then change back to android. I promise to myself that I won't let my future kids to buy WP. If they do, I will disown them.
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post Jun 19 2014, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(IccyAsd @ Jun 19 2014, 12:03 PM)
You may have left WP8 too soon, hope you give WP8.1 & Cyan Update a try when it comes out in a month or 2. Im also a Lumia 920 user with WP8.1 Developers Preview.
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Already used the 8.1.

Like I said, I really like the WP8 user interface, it is sleek and beautiful. However, once I entered Android, I now only realize how big the world really is. The app definitely is an issue. The app selection and quality totally pwn the WP8's apps. WP8 too limited. Now I definitely feel that app will bring out the 100% function of a smartphone. I probably will go iOS next, but who knows what will happen.

Pretty sure Microsoft is still catching up by then though. The hype for WP8.1 pretty much die down and the talks about considering giving other platforms Cortana (while the app does not even available to other regions in WP) is a very worrying sights. I mean, Microsoft has already done such things once by giving other platforms a far better Skype apps....
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I was actually on IOS 3-4 years back then Lumia 800 > Lumia 920 (got it at rm960 Avaxx New).

I would say IOS is a very solid platform, provided that you have devices that works in the ecosystem, like WP/Windows, I moved because the interface is boring after using it for sometime...

Only thing I hate about IOS its the itune sync

As for WP App I would say they are catching up, also find that you can have more choices of apps if your region is set to US/UK, I think that's because how the programmers published them by region. (Example:- like I was able to get a CCTV App on SG region but not in US/UK/MY region lol)
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post Jun 19 2014, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(crewl227 @ Jun 19 2014, 12:08 PM)
I used iOS, Android and WP before... for me, Android is the best..

Used WP for only one day then change back to android. I promise to myself that I won't let my future kids to buy WP. If they do, I will disown them.
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QUOTE(crewl227 @ Jun 19 2014, 12:08 PM)
I used iOS, Android and WP before... for me, Android is the best..

Used WP for only one day then change back to android. I promise to myself that I won't let my future kids to buy WP. If they do, I will disown them.
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If u never tried any OS, and WP was ur first.. u wud like it. My guess is, u're so used to iOS and android's UI, u tried WP and immediately went "wth is this UI, tiles? no folders? no icons? so plain Black background, cannot custom ringtones etc.." (like what my wifey said) sweat.gif

I have all three OSes on 3 diff devices, and each has its own pros/cons. WP probably in short, uses basic specs (512mb) ram yet performance still smooth. (e.g. pls tell me how well does Asphalt 8 runs with 512mb on android)
iPhone 5S.. well, apps galore. thumbup.gif Note 3, big screen.. playstore? well, be careful of viruses/malware etc. sweat.gif

But yeah, I do get that 'boring/confused' expression when frens come n play my lumia 1020.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(futra @ Jun 19 2014, 02:57 PM)
If u never tried any OS, and WP was ur first.. u wud like it. My guess is, u're so used to iOS and android's UI, u tried WP and immediately went "wth is this UI, tiles? no folders? no icons? so plain Black background, cannot custom ringtones etc.." (like what my wifey said)  sweat.gif

I have all three OSes on 3 diff devices, and each has its own pros/cons. WP probably in short, uses basic specs (512mb) ram yet performance still smooth. (e.g. pls tell me how well does Asphalt 8 runs with 512mb on android)
iPhone 5S.. well, apps galore.  thumbup.gif  Note 3, big screen.. playstore? well, be careful of viruses/malware etc.  sweat.gif

But yeah, I do get that 'boring/confused' expression when frens come n play my lumia 1020..  tongue.gif
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I agree with you, I might like WP if I use it first before exposing myself to android or iphone.. . But experiencing iOS and Android in the 1st place, made me look down on WP.

Personally I think WP have a good built quality with very basic OS functions. Again, its depends on the individual preference.. some like Burger King, some like McD but I like Burger Ramli. Burger Ramli FTW! drool.gif

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post Jun 19 2014, 04:19 PM

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I want Lumia 2010, but its just too expansive. going from 920>1020 I guess its just a camera upgrade?

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