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TSDeReturner
post Aug 12 2006, 12:10 PM, updated 20y ago

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Anyone there from SPL switch to SQ?

How's the changing stage?

I feel weird weird on RnB, Hip-Hop songs..which the base we like reduce alot.

Trying to get into the SQ world. Any advise?

My current ICE can see on signature, thinking to take off 2 amp n crossover, replace with Audison 6ch amp. Is that a wise choice?

Does my woofer good for SQ setting? Currently using vented, told the installer build me seal box d...still make vented..what la...
loon1031
post Aug 12 2006, 12:29 PM

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That is my comment ...correct me if i wrong

1st change your 4ch amp,
take out the rear speaker (may interupt front driver sound),
change woofer & the amp which push woofer (ur woofer SPL woofer may very hard)


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post Aug 12 2006, 05:18 PM

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1 question:
ur front comp is 3 ways ?

if budget permits
change ur 4ch prokick amp
ditch ur rear comps (or change it to power up by HU)
get an active crossover with bandpass (run actively)
change to sealed ( budget style: cover up ur vent)


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post Aug 12 2006, 05:21 PM

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ditch the rear component... they kill the front staging... and your woofer box make it sealed... if it is built according to the sealed enclosure size... then get a towel rolled them and stuff it on the hole to seal them... then you save your money on the box...
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post Aug 13 2006, 12:43 PM

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just tune your front comp to be more forward.as for the back comp, tune it down. the back comp is to help the front end. as for the sub. tune it down. say around 100hz. if u got multiple subs. just try use 1 biggrin.gif
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post Aug 14 2006, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Aug 12 2006, 06:18 PM)
1 question:
ur front comp is 3 ways ?

if budget permits
change ur 4ch prokick amp
ditch ur rear comps (or change it to power up by HU)
get an active crossover with bandpass (run actively)
change to sealed ( budget style: cover up ur vent)
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Yes my Front comp is 3 ways.
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Reason on changing amp?
I have a sealed box ready, it was using for SPL setting previously. It occupy my whole boot, can't even reach spare tire. The box won't fix now. By just cover up the vent will the measurement correct? As I know seal box n vent box meassurement are different.


QUOTE(scotty @ Aug 13 2006, 01:43 PM)
just tune your front comp to be more forward.as for the back comp, tune it down. the back comp is to help the front end. as for the sub. tune it down. say around 100hz. if u got multiple subs. just try use 1 biggrin.gif
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The current tuning is major on front, rear comp tune very low. I just using single sub, would try the 100hz setting.
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post Aug 14 2006, 02:31 PM

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reason to change the 4ch prokick - simple.
prokick doesn't give good SQ
high distortion, signal ratio is low, "dirty" sounded

as for sealed box..normally sealed box is smaller...
vented one are normally 1.5cu^ft above

as i said...ditch the rear comp
or make it power up by HU...in SQ setup...
rear comps are just for the ambience
not the sound

and normally the sub are tune low
lower than 100hz depends on the sub's capability
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post Aug 14 2006, 04:43 PM

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Agree with driftmeister, SPL amp no matter how you tune it... The sound hard to be clean & clear...
SQ sound is clean & clear, you can hear the vocal & musical clearly.
If not why prokick amp so cheap le...?!

If the rear speaker still same loud as or more loud front speaker, it maybe become noise at front. So disable it or direct connect to HU or use lower the rear spekear volume.


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post Aug 17 2006, 06:06 PM

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Prokick amp famous of delivering big amount of power ( tarak clean ).. good for SPL.. strictly not for Sq.. changing amp might get u closer to SQ world.. laugh.gif
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post Aug 18 2006, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Aug 14 2006, 03:31 PM)
reason to change the 4ch prokick - simple.
prokick doesn't give good SQ
high distortion, signal ratio is low, "dirty" sounded

as for sealed box..normally sealed box is smaller...
vented one are normally 1.5cu^ft above

as i said...ditch the rear comp
or make it power up by HU...in SQ setup...
rear comps are just for the ambience
not the sound

and normally the sub are tune low
lower than 100hz depends on the sub's capability
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QUOTE(loon1031 @ Aug 14 2006, 05:43 PM)
Agree with driftmeister, SPL amp no matter how you tune it... The sound hard to be clean & clear...
SQ sound is clean & clear, you can hear the vocal & musical clearly.
If not why prokick amp so cheap le...?!

If the rear speaker still same loud as or more loud front speaker, it maybe become noise at front. So disable it or direct connect to HU or use lower the rear spekear volume.
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QUOTE(Amedion @ Aug 17 2006, 07:06 PM)
Prokick amp famous of delivering big amount of power ( tarak clean ).. good for SPL.. strictly not for Sq.. changing amp might get u closer to SQ world.. laugh.gif
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sweat.gif Seem like whole ICE is changing...
No pain no gain, SQ world here I coming in~
This weekend gonna ditch the rear comp, re-tune everything.
Still can't get my cash note dry, unsure.gif when can I get new amp.

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post Aug 18 2006, 01:10 PM

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Do let me know if u wanna sell off ur amp or woofer.. laugh.gif
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post Aug 18 2006, 03:27 PM

donno lol..
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QUOTE(Amedion @ Aug 17 2006, 06:06 PM)
Prokick amp famous of delivering big amount of power ( tarak clean ).. good for SPL.. strictly not for Sq.. changing amp might get u closer to SQ world.. laugh.gif
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mind to elaborate more about the 'tarak clean' thingy? even the SQ series Prokick with burr Brown chip also tarak clean?
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post Aug 18 2006, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Aug 18 2006, 02:10 PM)
Do let me know if u wanna sell off ur amp or woofer.. laugh.gif
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Gee, I live in Penang island leh. Sure I gonna sell them, 1 of my fren is booking on it, until his new car arrive like 2 more month. Well if he change his mind later sure I'll open in forum.

QUOTE(Lemon @ Aug 18 2006, 04:27 PM)
mind to elaborate more about the 'tarak clean' thingy? even the SQ series Prokick with burr Brown chip also tarak clean?
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Ya, please elaborate more so me this noob can learn. tongue.gif


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post Aug 18 2006, 05:54 PM

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dun fool by the BB chip in prokick
BB also comes with entry level and high levels
the component they uses is the lowest quality ones
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post Aug 18 2006, 11:17 PM

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Ya... When you open up the amp...U will know what kind of component use inside Prokick...
If you know electronic, u will know what is the difference between prokick amp with Helix, TRU.... lo..also why the price prokick so cheap..

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post Aug 22 2006, 05:35 PM

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*sob* Got fool at the first place.

So izzit a wise choice to invest Audison amp for SQ? Since I have Hertz comp set.
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post Aug 22 2006, 07:20 PM

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depends on ur budget rclxms.gif

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TSDeReturner
post Aug 24 2006, 10:37 AM

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sweat.gif lets put budget to below RM 4k.


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post Aug 24 2006, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(Lemon @ Aug 18 2006, 03:27 PM)
mind to elaborate more about the 'tarak clean' thingy? even the SQ series Prokick with burr Brown chip also tarak clean?
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YEs.. Tarak clean.. sweat.gif
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post Aug 24 2006, 05:14 PM

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hehe, got a ques here, how to define a clean amp or dirty amp? wonder any1 who really tested it with machine to see the freq produced between 2 diff category amp......

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