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Read all those comments ....

Some matriculation students still put them above STPM ... oh my god

Well, it's sad to say that this is how our education system works, but I'm not gonna comment much about it. Almost all of my cousins and even my siblings put STPM as their last resort if they can't get into any other pre-u program, and if I'm not mistaken, for now, I'm the only person in my entire family that're undertaking STPM.

Nevertheless, I'm proud of being able to take on Form 6 syllabus and challenge my mettle along the journey, which I'd say, invigorating and overwhelming at the same time.

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This post has been edited by cheah0409: Aug 22 2014, 01:56 PM

What would you like to have happen?

You don't know what to do with your life. But, you clearly know that science is not your cup of tea.

What would you like instead?

You want to repeat Lower 6, but switching from Science Stream to Art Stream.

What kind of Art?

You said "Accounts and Economics." You want to learn more about Accounts and Economics.

Given what you know now, what would you like to do with Accounts or Economics?

Hey, guys!

I m going 2 hand in my math t course work by next friday.

could anyone here point out how 2 write methodology?

I don't think I can write with my limited word in my brain 2 describe the method of handling this question. Sucks!

Point out my grammar error if any mistakes. Trying 2 improve my eng immediately now since i m mandarin educated in both primary n secondary school.

Jia Her,

Read from Page 6.

ex matrik grad here and also stpm student before then

study hard, make sure you get 4 A's + 95 co-curriculum marks for your STPM

physic STPM sem 1 learn about basic physics stuff, sem 2 electric magnet, sem 3 nuclear stuff

chemistry sem 1 learn equilibrium, sem 2 periodic table electroplating, sem 3 organic chemistry (this sem need ton of memorising like sejarah)

We matrik student learn 70-80% of stpm syllabus in 1 year
still tough and challenging yet, chewing up physic 15 chapters and chemistry 20 chapters in matrik 1 sem is just nice

First of all, like what feynman said, it's Physics. With an [s].

Secondly, stop expounding on how hard Matriculation is. And Physics STPM Semester 1 isn't basic stuff. To prove this point, look at how you solved the question involving the wedges and the block, even with your 'STPM'+Matriculation's worth of experience.

regarding the wedges and block the question stated with (3) objects which stacked among on top of each other is not within syllabus of STPM and Matriculation fyi

please ask question that is actually within the syllabus or even better asking real past year question

Tell me, are Newton's Laws of Motion not in Matriculation and STPM syllabus? Did you not draw FBD's in Matriculation?

Or are you saying that wedges do not appear in STPM and Matriculation, hence, aren't a part of the syllabus?

You've got to be kidding me.

1 object on top of wedges is considered inside syllabus, 1 object on top of another object on top of wedges is not in syllabus

there is too many variable for calculating that question, you push lowest object can you guarantee the top 2 will not topple down? how do you so sure the highest object wont fall down? and assumption?

the closest question i have found in entire newton law chapter in University Physics 13th edition is only 2 objects max, which is box on top of wedges, you must be kidding me with 3 objects stack among each other actually in stpm syllabus

Hahaha


Wtf you're talking man?

There's just so much wrong in what you have said.

Just stop talking about syllabus and start solving the damn problem. You try to talk kok with the professor or the chief engineer, say goodbye to your sorry ass.

If you don't know how to solve it, then say don;t know. There's no shame in admitting one's limitation. No one will laugh at you. At work, people are expected to help each other solve problems. If you are so atas, want muka and all. Then you should just quit university and stay at home.

This post has been edited by feynman: Aug 23 2014, 04:08 PM

When you say 'wedges', how many are there? 2,3,4?

You could have one million objects on top of another. The internal forces cancel due to Newton's Third Law. The fact that when you treat the upper block and wedge as a single object, you have only 2 objects to consider hits you right in the face when you say that 2 objects are in the syllabus and 3 aren't! This is a completely ridiculous argument!

If you have learnt Newton's Law of Motion well ( I'm starting to doubt that you have ), you will know how and when to treat multiple objects as a single system. This is not unique to any particular syllabus. It's all under Mechanics. In fact, you were taught to model to objects connected by a massless, inextensible rope as a single point particle in Form Four Physics!

In the problem I posted, there are multiple approaches. You can consider each object individually as a single system and the external forces which act on them, or one of them which enables you to find the desired acceleration, or, in Critical_Fallacy's solution, consider the pseudo-force due to an accelerating reference frame.

As for your comment about the assumptions, I won't touch on that, because it's trivial from the question that it wants you to find the F in which the objects don't move relative to each other. So why are you cracking your head about objects toppling and falling?

See, Physics is Physics. I feel sorry when I read your comments about the syllabus difference, what is in the syllabus, what is not, etc. It seems like you've missed the point of education, amidst obsession to swallow what is taught and doing past years aimlessly. You always use external factors as reasons. It's like Tom telling his teacher that his dog ate his homework. Instead of admitting that much has to be learnt ( we all have a lot to learn! ), you emphasise the fact that it's not your fault that you don't know how to solve the problem. You easily put the blame on the fact that 'it's not in the syllabus, so I couldn't care less'.

This post has been edited by maximR: Aug 23 2014, 04:17 PM

Thanks for dropping by in this thread, senior.

Regarding the bolded part above, you've written there that in order to secure a 4.00 CGPA pointer and extremely high co-co marks, one has to study hard. But can you please enlighten me on how hard do we have to study in order to achieve such feats? To what extend of studying or revising that you consider as hard?

It's nice to get some input from fellow seniors in this forum. But, considering the fact that you did learn a few topics about STPM syllabus before you shifted and ventured into the world of matriculation, would you explicitly explain to us fellow juniors in this thread on what you mean by ''basic stuffs'' in the first term? Which are the topics in the first term that you consider 'basic', is it the kinematics, dynamics, or all of the topics? You've also stated that we will learn things that are related to 'electric magnet' in the second term, but, what is 'electric magnet'? I'd like to superficially find some clarification on 'electric magnet' as I'm about to delve further into it in next year. Finally, can you give us a little glimpse on the 'nuclear stuff' that you were referring to in the third term? As far as I know, we will only delve into the world of Nuclear Physics in the sixth chapter of the third term, so, do the other chapters in that term like, Oscillations, Sound Waves, Quantum Mechanics and Optics are correlated with the 'nuclear stuff' too?

Thanks for clearing my doubts.

Boy, you committed a critical fallacy.

Look at Example 5.10 on page 143, University Physics, 13e (Young & Freedman). This is the CRITICAL concept you require to solve the moving wedge (frictionless) problem, posted by maximR. For problems where a body rests or slides on an inclined plane that exerts frictional forces on the body, refer to Example 5.16 (pg.150) and 5.17 (pg.151).

thanks, i always make my lecturer mad

u want 4.00? easy, go buy practice book and read answers back there

high coco marks? how u gonna compete against matrik with average 95 coco marks? theres like 1000+ matrik student with 4 flat and 95-100 coco marks waiting to get medic course in UM every year

physics stpm first term easy only la, seriously i not joking
maybe i say basic becoz i actually read whole sem 1 physic stpm book before in stpm then to matrik, so i know all of the syllabus and which is not inside quite clearly

electric magnet means electric and magnet loh, AC DC stuff and electromagnetic, how the electric is manupulated in AC (capacitor, LRC, turbine power generator, phasor diagram) (i actually dislike electric stuff)

nuclear stuff is like u learned in form 5 spm, nothing special

stpm sem 3 got learn about wave like resonance, where you also learn how a guitar string vibrate and much more i cant explain 1 by 1

need calculate 3rd object friction, that pushes the box forward too!

Hmm... That's funny, since some of the seniors that I knew in my school used the exact same method, rinse and repeat, and they even advocated it, yet they can't even secure a 3.00 CGPA in their STPM exams, let alone getting a 4.00 pointer....

How do imply that by transferring from STPM to matriculation, all of the first term syllabus was basic for you? And if you were to shift to other pre-u courses like A-Levels or remained in Form 6, would you still regard that all of the concepts that you've learned is still basic?

And again for the 'nuclear stuff', your replies are vague. In SPM Physics, we only learned a small portion of concepts that deals with Nuclear Physics, and so you're saying that it only rehash the whole content of the topic, without even changing a thing?

[quote=RED-HAIR-SHANKS,Aug 23 2014, 06:22 PM]
Hmm... That's funny, since some of the seniors that I knew in my school used the exact same method, rinse and repeat, and they even advocated it, yet they can't even secure a [QUOTE]

He's a matriculation student, doubt he can give you much insight on how to study for STPM.

No offence, Mr. Blood, but I'm not impressed that you got 4.0 in matriks. Like STPM, the final grades for Matriks is determined using relative grading, that is, a bell curve is used instead of a fixed scale. Only a certain percentage of students are allowed to get 4.0 each year, for example, 20 percent, to ensure fairness to graduates of different years as the difficulty of exams could vary each year. My aunt who is a lecturer in KMJ told me that since the quota for bumiputeras in matriks is 90 percent, literally almost every single Chinese student in matriks got a 4.0 easily. Admittedly matriks is a bit more rushed as you guys have to finish everything in one year, but our new STPM semester system doesn't give us much breathing room either. Please take your bragging somewhere else as it is widespread knowledge that STPM is exponentially harder than matriks. Or is it because that all your friends also got 4-flat easily so you don't have anyone else to brag to?

Please don't make a joke of yourself.

I am an ex-STPM student who used both STPM and Matriculation materials to study. Don't tell me you can't tell the difference.

FYI, physics term 3 includes waves + optics besides nuclear stuff

Chemistry semester 2 includes inorganic chemistry (approximately 6 chapters) which conveniently is not part of Matriculation Chemistry syllabus. Don't even bother to tell me inorganic chemistry is easy, I know you never studied them.

Your Mathematics does not include Maclaurin Series, Chi-Squared Test, Sampling and Estimation and many more topics included in Mathematics (T).

You didn't study Pengajian Am. While I won't disagree that it is not extremely tough, don't think it is easy and it contributes quite a lot of stress.

Inter-Matriculation campus game is a state level event while inter-school or even sometimes inter-state secondary school games is merely a district level event, depending on whether you represent your school or actually represent the state by beating all other schools at your state. See how matriks students get marks easily?

Please don't say you learn 70-80% of STPM syllabus in 1 year. It's laughable.

And please, while I agree Matriculation and STPM have approximately 80% of syllabus overlapped, the depth of questions and the level of questions asked are different.

Example, for the same concept, in Matriculation "1+2(6)-4=?" while STPM "3y+16(6)/4 = 24+9y, find y". It tends to be much more complicated for STPM.

Please, I walked through the syllabus myself for 2 years by using both STPM and Matriculation materials (except sem 2 Chemistry, as Matriculation doesn't include inorganic chemistry), and my teachers too gave me Matriculation questions. Don't try to fool yourself.

There's nothing you could say here that could convince me my 2 years experience is wrong.

A-Level is more likely to be on par with STPM. But from what I had tried, both are equally hard but STPM Maths and Chemistry are slightly (only slightly due to wider syllabus) harder.

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