It's not up on MPM website so it will not be considered a final decision.

Magazines are a bit pricey but yup I agree they are also good alternatives.

hello my senior

if I have any questions, should I ask here or in other thread(the lower 6) one??? I know this question sounds personal and subjective, but how many hours you think that we younger bro and sis should study in a day??

i now study daily 5 hours, do you think i must increases it more to 8 hours in every day??

and what subjects in your opinion that you is difficult??

but I start read newspaper i think I learning quite less, you think i should focus more on the words that the writers write or the ideas of the articles??

There's actually an official letter that i've seen stating that those starting 2016 students arent able to retake Sem 3. I will try snd post that letter up.

1. Anywhere also no problem. We will try to assist you as much as possible. Some seniors like Just Visiting By, Critical_Fallacy, Krevaki, and many more will be helpful too!

2. If you think that you can make full use of that 5 hours, then go ahead. What I meant of 'full use' is ability to understand fully the knowledge that you have applied. 8 hours for me is too much, and I can barely concentrate.

Focus on how the writer conveys the message, not only his choice of words or the ideas. Vocabulary and ideas are often wrongly learnt through memorising. Fact is you need to learn to express your message - that's what language is all about.

It smacks of double standard, allowing people to retake 1st and 2nd term but disallowing them to retake 3rd term? They should allow them to retake all, or retake none at all.

Now that you've mentioned it... Yeah, they're saying that it "eases" the process totaling up the marks and preventing mishaps, but I don't really see the point. Here's the letter


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I think your study time is way too long even for form 6. Studying for 8 hours a day sounds very bad. Don't stress yourself learning for so long as it might have adverse effect. Learn with joy not under stress.

but, at my school i see a lot of seniors studying a lot also in my opinion. most of them tell me to buy all the books like Oxfords sasbadi and pelangi because each book is incomplete of explanation based on mpm website.. also, I see my friends also very hardworking one, they mostly studying at school and even when rehat/recess, they group at library only...a t home they say they study all day until night

teacher also recommended me to take tuitions for my muet.. and talking about tuition also, most of my schools lower and upper 6 got take tuitions one.. if they all can guarantee success, then I think I should follow for my future success...

I ask th e question about study hours is because I scared that if I study less, then I will cannot catch up or incomplete the syllabus... also I see my friends got more materials than me based on their tuition.....

This is grossly unfair LOL what if they intentionally make the third term papers relatively much harder than the first two terms?

On the bright side, it forces you all to work much harder, although I would say it make not much difference as the notion of retaking the same term paper was as appalling and revolting as having no chance to repeat the paper.

Quality matters, bro, not quantity. There's no point reading a book 8 hours a day but nothing sets in. It's how you study that matters, not how long.

Just study in a way that fits you and is effective. You need not follow what other people do. Their method may not work for you.

Find a way that suits you. Everyone has different methods of studying. Sure, tuition seems to be one of the main ways, but please DO NOT rely too much on tuition. I have countless friends who rely on their tuition too much, sometimes even bragging but results doesn't show. I even have one friend who went for tuition in 3 different places for Bio and Chem, still he could not score in his first term ( sorry if i sound condescending here ).
Studying for 8 hours might not work if you really do not understand the content, don't just read, understand the content and next know how to answer the questions in the exam. If you don't understand something, use the Internet! We are blessed to be born in this IT age where information is instant lol.
In the end though, do not feel too intimidated in this first term! You are not alone on this

sorry not band 6 but high band 5, close to get 6 but not 6

did u start on ur phys project? mind to share ur tittle?

Just completed MUET Speaking today. It went smooth but i think my points were not strong enough esp in group discussion. I spoke fluently though. Hopefully i get high marks for it :'(

That's crazy, mind sharing some tips?? Essay examples?? How to score in Reading?? How did you perform in your speakng??

I really wanna get a high band 4 or low band 5 (

On a side note, how's everyone coping with Sem 3?? This thread seems dead

This post has been edited by EricYong!: Jun 22 2015, 08:21 PM

For the reading, by hook or by crook, you HAVE to read whole the excerpt, don't simply read the questions and find the answer without reading the whole excerpt. I've tried to skim through the excerpt and my reading marks is horrible.
For the essay, just remember to present your point in a sense that people will understand what you're trying to write, be specific and don't be too vague, don't generalize your points, if best, include some example.
For speaking, make sure your voice is loud enough so the examiners can hear you, if you speak too softly, the examiner can't hear you and they will be very difficult to give you marks. Always presents three points or more (if you have time) to support your argument, avoid looking too long at the paper where you write your points, because this is speaking, not reading and most importantly, have confident and don't stutter if you make mistakes, continue your speech.
Btw, this is only my tips, I've score a Band 4, 208/300 marks ( I'm dissapointed with my results )
Good luck and try your best

This post has been edited by Phoenix W.: Jun 22 2015, 09:58 PM

waahh, judging from this post here, you should get band 5 and above, your English very high standard one, like big bro just visiting by and critical fallacy......and all the other band 5 muet senior legends......

anyway, for maths, how do you advice us juniors to study?? i sometimes understand the concept of formula, but it really hard to use it in stpm problems...teacher gave us to to past year questions according to chapter by chapter, but it found out that it is very hard than the revision book one...

This post has been edited by Kanan Jarrus: Jun 22 2015, 09:57 PM

To know when to use the correct method, you have to practise more. Of course you have to know the reasons before using that particular method (it could have multiple methods as well but choose the best if possible).

yaya that's what i am been wondering, like for a question, I can have two different approach to it, but sometimes i wonder which is the best and sometimes I wonder why i never use this or the other method......blablabla
but these process is taking my time and energy lol. i am not complaining, just that sometimes i exhausted...

You have got to learn that through practice. Certain examples like inequalities could be solved by properties of inequalities but if the equations are too complicated, using graphical approach could greatly simplify the solution.

It takes practice. You've got half a year, use it wisely.

errr...not half a year, but more like 4 to 5 months lol...it's a race against time for me

anyway thank you for advice, practice makes perfect

Perhaps you should make solving past year questions as second natural, so that you feel it is easy. The questions in reference book shouldn't be taken as a standard, but past year. However, past year questions are getting easier from year to year, which isn't a good indicator for the standard. You can exploit this by start doing the questions from most recent years to those real hard in 1999 or 2000. Questions from 2004 and 2008 are worth to be done doing and they are rewarding, especially the one about swimming (vector-alike differential equation, 2004) and brine solution (differential equation, 2008). However the tradition of giving challenging questions every 4 years had been broken in 2012 (the year I took STPM).

Regarding about your study time, you shouldn't set a time limit. Study when you are free until you feel your brain can take it anymore.

This post has been edited by kingkingyyk: Jun 23 2015, 08:59 AM