Kia Cerato outweight the New Honda City in appearance and specs..

im saying brand CAN be a yardstick for reliability sometime. of course, it's not an ultimate one...because nothing is forever, it can go up and it can go down because performance is fluctuate because men are involved...toyota is not a failproof company but it had been a great one reliable company, at least was and almost known for....or if it is still then good, it cannot be forever....yesday korean brand cannot be reliable doesnt mean tmr it wont be. just like lastime japan is a copycat country now, now we look for everything from japan. and we can almost associate reliability with japan. china is copycat toay but theyr improving.

Still, reliability does associate with brand. we pay premiums for brands, many things can be associated with brand ...design, status, performance, exclusivity, thats why we're paying more...and reliability is one of them we paying more for a brand. and is not an be all and end all factor though. like computers, is asus more reliable than compaq? brand for brand, i dare say yes, at least previously. so can you say reliability is not associated with brand?




This post has been edited by wayfeel: Jun 14 2014, 11:39 PM

Kia Cerato is leading the poll with 79 over 63 for Honda City. Wow this really surprised me. Kia has good reputation now. I hope the RV will improve from time to time.

Yes bro, if it's up to me i definitely go with cerato. But my family keep asking me to buy city coz they scared with RV for Korea car. So i need to think carefully before make decision.

buy the car that u really like ,

else u buy somethings that u don't like , and u still have to use it at least 5 years .

Thanks for the advise bro. I ask for everyone's opinion because this is the first time I'm gonna buy a car, with my hard earned money. Im just 25 y.o, and no experience in buying a car. That's why need to ask around and gather all informations. Afraid will regret later on if i made a wrong choice.

already test drive both cars ? no point discussing if you never even take the initiation to test drive both to compare up to your own preference. Share your preference and points then we can giv more advise.

if u read his previous comments , yes he did test drive both already

I'm assuming TS work in O&G industry, then he should know Korea is among the top manufacturer for heavy industry equipment and is put on par with product from Japan. Korea has catch to Japan, just look at Daewoo/Samsung/LG. Honda City is an excellent base, it just that Honda is not trying to keep-up with the market, especially the safety features.

Look at the picture and imagine you have to live with them for the next few years.

How much of "reliability" are you willing to sacrifice to have the "features"?

Or

How much of "features" are you willing to sacrifice to have the "reliability"?

If that helps.

Yes. Kia don't really worries me, but Naza do. Heard few people complain with after sales service from Naza.

Are u saying Kia's car unreliable? What makes u said so? Care to explain. I mean if last generation Kia like Sephia, yes i agree it's unreliable. But since Peter Schreyer join Kia and introducing Forte, i believe Kia has move few steps ahead, same par as Japanese cars. I think Kia's now is reliable as much as reliable sushi cars, and we should give them a chance to prove it. Do u agree?

That's another thing to ponder about too then. Even if it's like VW cars isn't that problematic but their after sales is bad, I would give VW a pass no matter how good the car feels like.
So is after sales service important to you or you're fine with servicing it with ur own mechanic

The pictures don't do justice to the Cerato. Sit in it and you will be surprised the materials used in a few places that you frequently touch. Sit in the City though, you will be reminded that its still an entry level Jap B-Seg car. The Koreans still lack refinement in the driving department, thats for sure.

Was in Same situation few weeks ago but end up chossing kimchi 1.6.

1) safefty equipment, almost on par pls check spec but cerato win minor
2) performance wise i feel adequate for 1 overweight guy 3 women and 2 kids. Honda city no comment cause just test drive with max 2 guys and 1 sales lady. Cerato can have very good performance by changing rims to 16 and KN filter according to some forumers.
3) driving cerato at first feel odd because its like driving a premium cars, driving city feels more solid (实在). After few weeks already get use to it.
4) comfort cerato wins handsdown both front and back seat. City is too bumpy for family comfort.
5) space cerato is wider and city has longer leg room. I feel wider is more pratical.
6) feature, material, build quality cerato win handsdown, I told my wife we pay a little bit more we can enjoy daily ride in business class seat rather than economy seat.
7) paddle shift is supper fun when driving on hilly road and highway overtake cars. Was also told shifttronic is fun when driving fast up and down cameron and genting. Going to do this next week after first service.
8) fc is comparable to my alza and old wira 1.5 so happy with it.
9) rv wise i choose enjoying the cars daily rather than suffer with a car with high rv for the next 5-7 years. Or choose not to think about rv at all, who knows what the world will become in coming few years maybe electric car become common in 5 years and no one want a petrol car.
10) reliabilty very much depends on luck. kimchi is improving but naza is a question.

Overall i feel cerato offer a complete package for what i need and my budget.

Nope, it's exactly what you said, it's not about Kia, it's about Naza.

i like this statement. nobody knows how the used car market will be in the next 5 years. electric cars are gaining popularity, korean cars too and improving at a fast rate. heck even the chinese cars. japanese entry grade cars already showing they arent worth the reputation of the old generation golden japanese cars, and most importantly newer, younger generation of car buyers are more informed n educated, no longer stuck to verbal opinion passed down by outdated minded, aging mechanics or their parents. so to sacrifice a car u liked just for the sake of unpredictable RV is kinda stupid n naive.

This post has been edited by bananadriver: Jun 16 2014, 10:51 AM

As much as Im a supporter of Honda... value wise Cerato... most bang for the buck...

Maybe TS can wait a bit, until Korea introduce the facelift that improves the driving department.

Or City hybrid, which is set to launch end of this year, with loads of features, duty free. Expect it to be priced competitively.

This post has been edited by amdxp: Jun 16 2014, 11:24 AM

First, if take into consideration of discount offered by Kia for cerato around 8-10k , so i would say that the car actually quite near to honda city V spec.Comfort definitely falls on cerato~
Second, how about the maintenance and the spare parts of both car?
Third, i do believe that honda city is more fuel saving compare to cerato. Japanese engine definitely better than koreans
Forth, reliability and smoothness on speeding , after 3-5 years as well?
So which one worth the the price after considering above factors?