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Latest rumour: Will Axe BOTW WII U version and become switch exclusive.
Reminds me of the original ShenMue...it was developed halfway for the Saturn, then get axed when the Saturn was put out of commission and became a Dreamcast exclusive release.
There was even video released for the Saturn Shenmue version (but it looks extremely crap compared to Dreamcast).....the WiiU BOTW at least looks respectable and similar except maybe suffering from low frame rates.
This post has been edited by Matrix: Dec 19 2016, 05:01 PM
that rumour is rubbish. it originated from a newly created goo blog which the rumour post is the only post there. plus, the hint the blogger said where listing on amazon jp, bic camera etc are removed are 100% wrong since those shop never list stuff that haven't get an exact release date, unlike online shops in the rest of the world where item will be listed even when there's no exact date (they might put placeholder date which some people ends up thinking that's the real release date lol)
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From: Land of floods, Kota Tinggi
Now the story will never be complete without DLCs (and seriously they could have put Cave of Ordeals-like / Hard Mode with amiibo instead like TPHD)
Also $20 maybe nothing to the US, dafuq they're now crushing us even more
And Zelda have always been "complete" games and you can revisit to enjoy the full game, but since DLCs are only available within the Switch's lifetime and what if EOLed, you will no longer access to those DLCs anymore...
This is why I hate DLC practices and I rather wait for GOTY or Complete Edition if there is one...
Now the story will never be complete without DLCs (and seriously they could have put Cave of Ordeals-like / Hard Mode with amiibo instead like TPHD)
Also $20 maybe nothing to the US, dafuq they're now crushing us even more
And Zelda have always been "complete" games and you can revisit to enjoy the full game, but since DLCs are only available within the Switch's lifetime and what if EOLed, you will no longer access to those DLCs anymore...
This is why I hate DLC practices and I rather wait for GOTY or Complete Edition if there is one...
my take for story dlc in general is: 1. if it's being made before the main game is finished. that's shit but sometimes understandable but not always. some publisher do demand for the game to be finished & shipped before certain deadline, forcing the dev to cut contents just to meet deadline 2. if it's being made after the main game is finished, I would take it as omake, or bonus chapter. like in manga where this extra chapter which usually sometimes not related to main story at all or sometimes gives some extra point of view towards the characters that we don't see in the main story. not every avid fan ends up buying the manga volume when they just read from the weekly/monthly magazine that it first published on.
while this are obviously false equivalency, do you go back to ocarina of time 64 and suddenly realized that the game isn't really complete since it doesn't have master quest like gamecube or 3ds version? or since you feel game will be incomplete, do you avoid playing every modern game that has downloadable game updates? since those are also pretty much render out of box base game "incomplete"
as for why not putting pack 1 dlc to amiibo instead, I guess you didn't encounter even once tphd ganondorf amiibo complaint fiasco last year in the internet?
edit: in no way i'm saying "shut up just accept it and move on" lol. I do get the complaints. even I didn't like some of the way they're announcing this.
This post has been edited by kuroneko0509: Feb 15 2017, 07:07 PM
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From: Land of floods, Kota Tinggi
QUOTE(kuroneko0509 @ Feb 15 2017, 06:52 PM)
2. if it's being made after the main game is finished, I would take it as omake, or bonus chapter. like in manga where this extra chapter which usually sometimes not related to main story at all or sometimes gives some extra point of view towards the characters that we don't see in the main story. not every avid fan ends up buying the manga volume when they just read from the weekly/monthly magazine that it first published on.
while this are obviously false equivalency, do you go back to ocarina of time 64 and suddenly realized that the game isn't really complete since it doesn't have master quest like gamecube or 3ds version? or since you feel game will be incomplete, do you avoid playing every modern game that has downloadable game updates? since those are also pretty much render out of box base game "incomplete"
as for why not putting pack 1 dlc to amiibo instead, I guess you didn't encounter even once tphd ganondorf amiibo complaint fiasco last year in the internet?
actually I am aiming for canon-ity so missing out a certain storyline that really a core part of the entire plot will make me feel left out a lot, so mangas are out of the question
while ocarina of time does got updated with fixes and tweaks for newer platforms and Master Quest, they are in fact complete with their storyline intact and does not depend on service availability from Nintendo (eg: no longer can get Rotom alternate forms in Pokemon Platinum since Nintendo Wifi Connection was long dead unless inject AR codes)
modern games from Steam etc however has GOTY/Complete edition and I rather buy that instead of buying several separate DLCs + 1 main game, both economical reasons and replayability...
lol I really dunno that ganondorf ammibo is that bad, links?
alright then now why they don't do it like wind waker where you can unlock second quests as a harder mode but have to pack in as DLCs?
actually I am aiming for canon-ity so missing out a certain storyline that really a core part of the entire plot will make me feel left out a lot, so mangas are out of the question
while ocarina of time does got updated with fixes and tweaks for newer platforms and Master Quest, they are in fact complete with their storyline intact and does not depend on service availability from Nintendo (eg: no longer can get Rotom alternate forms in Pokemon Platinum since Nintendo Wifi Connection was long dead unless inject AR codes)
modern games from Steam etc however has GOTY/Complete edition and I rather buy that instead of buying several separate DLCs + 1 main game, both economical reasons and replayability...
lol I really dunno that ganondorf ammibo is that bad, links?
alright then now why they don't do it like wind waker where you can unlock second quests as a harder mode but have to pack in as DLCs?
no. manga equivalence is appropriate. I've seen a lot of series having bonus chapter on the series final volume that happens either after final chapter or somewhere in between that is consider canon that doesn't in magazine during weekly/monthly publish
while I get your point of availability of the service, your example isn't a good one tbh. there's a difference between paid dlc availability & giveaways.
as for amiibo case, there's too many complaint about them. lazy to list but the common ones are: -why the heck you didn't do paid dlc Nintendo instead of doing this -why am I wasting money to buy that trash figure -how easy can I get that amiibo now? -scummy Nintendo! and so on, summarized by my own words of course
In game development the scenario and art department usually finish their work long long before the game itself get gold. They either move on to their next project right away or use the time in between to create additional contents. It's unlikely that Nintendo is cutting up contents to sell it piecemeal, and you'll not get it included in the main game for free unless they delay the release date (again).
Less than a week away and there is no digital version on eshop to pre-order or even a pre-load option before launch like other major games. Very few local suppliers (hi Kyo!) taking orders for this too.
Complaints aside, I'm still very excited to play this.
Less than a week away and there is no digital version on eshop to pre-order or even a pre-load option before launch like other major games. Very few local suppliers (hi Kyo!) taking orders for this too.
Complaints aside, I'm still very excited to play this.
yes. dunno why but preload only up on pal eshop but not other region. as for 3rd question, no idea. probably something related to how maxsoft handles thing lol
Phew, good to know that about the Europe eshop offering the preload option already.
Hopefully everything goes well with the local supplier stock and Maxsoft, I just want to play the game at the end of the day. Not going to bother about Master or Special editions anymore though it's a pretty d*ck move by Nintendo to make Master/Special edition only for Switch version considering this game was originally designed for the Wii U.