They were main cons of several other projects before that infamous one in Kepong.

Not sure who played who out on this one but usually construction or engineering companies turned developers tend to be extremely careful on their reputation as any screw ups will affect not one but 2 of their business arms.

In any case it does appear lesser projects built by them hasn't had any major issues, think along the lines of Traders Sq etc.

The main noise you will hear are the rolling and wind draught noise.

BRT are fully electric buses from PRC, no diesel ones are allowed on the transit way. Pity they did not give it a better coverage.


Yes the access road is kind of dodgy for Cantara.

This would be a good property for a single person and is cheaper to maintain as well.

Sorry im not the type kepo here n there and ask agents cause too shy like you to ask SA. I ask SA directly and calculation is from them. Its the same SA for lot15 and cantara.

Such a dumb comparison, taking an expensive unit at lot15 and compare with cheap 1k sqft unit. Then keep on saying with 8xx sqft price I can get 1ksqft at cantara big LOL at you. I do not mind the difference for my personal preference of location at SJCC. As I mentioned earlier, I DID visit cantara as well to survey. U think I care meh that 2% bumi discount? I already know that Cantara nett price is lower than LOT15 but definitely cannot get the 1ksqft at that price. If i am so obsessed with discounts, might as well purchase in cyberjaya. Tons of discounts

if the price I show is wrong. Please, do provide calculations from your agent. Empty vessels make the most noise.

Give me the unit number and block for 1k sqft cantara with RM700k nett price. Otherwise, I can just assume, you are just trash talker everywhere.

Hey man, like I said, I'm just pointing it out for others to know. I personally felt that it is much more worth it especially after adding the additional bumi discount hence for other bumi's sake on this comparison, I'm just putting this out there to let them make an informed decision. I'm not referring this to you or convincing you to buy Cantara but for those bumi who are interested, it is great to let them know.

Hack, some of my friends managed to get good deals when I informed them to look at buying a property on a different aspect. One of it is looking it through bumi discount.

You might not see it that way but I do and I believe there are many other people who put property value ahead of others. So like I said, my personal view is that with the additional discount and the close proximity of Cantara to Subang, I felt that it is a greater deal for the Bumi buyers.

Also just to add, that property I posted, it is RM818k.... try reducing another 7% .... (bear in mind this excludes referral/loyalty and everything else). One more thing, you also need to factor in the furnishing value.

This post has been edited by holypredator: Jul 2 2019, 12:40 AM

I do not mind sharing information to let others decide. But there is a difference between pointing out for others to know and misleading them.

Can you break down the discounts given. Seems like your agent is so generous to give extra 7% on top of 7% bumi + 10% HOC + 2% cashback. plus there is no extra prime discount for cantara project. I totally have no hate for cantara. I would'nt have visit cantara for few times if i hate it My brother purchased a unit and he's looking for the 1ksqft as now he got the 850sqft . I'd appreciate it if you can provide the unit number and the "Correct" calculation cause you said my calculation was wrong and please factor in also the loan legal fees and stamp duty (more than rm10k) as you like to add in everything in the price. And also, if you'd like to compare which is lower price, take the cheapest unit for both to compare. Not taking CORNER for lot15 which obviously not cheap and compare with cheapest 1ksqft cantara. I have attached the chart for your price reference @ cantara. I also suggest to buy cantara if wants to buy a cheaper unit and if ppl want to have it by next year.

Lets keep the discussion healthy by providing facts.

I do not have the breakdown, the agent just calculated and told me the sum and that was few months back.

You can easily just use the RM818k and workout with the 7% bumi discount. That itself should have told you the answer.

The corner units of Lot 15 even at lowest floor cost is about RM800k+ nett rebate (the last I was told when I was at their Raya Open house).

It doesn't take much to understand that RM800k+ minus off 5% rebate vs RM818k + minus off 7% would be very similar in terms of pricing. I do not know why is it so hard to realise this just by looking at it.

This is also excluding the fact that the 1k+sqf gives you an island + partial furnishing, which in my opinion would cost you about RM20k upwards if you want to get all those furnishing custom made to fit for your Lot 15 units.

so you're saying, cantara now giving 14% bumi discount and total discount of 26%? In my price calculation already included the 7% discount. Wow SDP so generous with cantara project.

A person that is buying corner unit clearly wont bother with the price difference? Am i right? And you mentioned



why would a person who put property value ahead of others would get RM100k more expensive same size unit??

Dont mislead others when they have cheaper options in LOT15 by comparing the most expensive 861sqft unit with cheapest 1k sqft cantara.

even the one facing fed hwy and facing subang jaya (lowest level) got about RM20k diff .


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Calculation by Agent and SA @ cantara.

Nett psf for 646 sqft - RM780psf
850sqft - RM791psf

as mentioned by you add additional 7% to RM818k = RM760,740 --> RM713 psf

From RM780-RM791psf drop to RM713psf for bigger units. (HolyPredator's price)

Please share yours. I've shared mine.

P.S I only post with facts that I have (price). Cant comment much about lot15 corner price as I do not know the exact price. LOT15 chart do not have the price listed as seen at cantara chart.

This post has been edited by naqib0307: Jul 2 2019, 09:06 PM

RM818k is net without bumi discount/loyalty/referral, agents mostly would post before net special privilege cause otherwise there would be a bunch of non bumi buyers calling just to get let down.

Personally like I said before, the "additional" bumi discount is what makes the other units more attractive. I did not mislead anyone, it is true that you could get a 1k+ sqf unit compared to 800+sqf and frankly ma boy, the only attractive units for lot 15 to me at least are the corner units of tower A facing glanmarie and the corner units of tower B facing subang. The rest are pretty shitty especially the type G whereby it is on a odd position and the living room window faces the TnB itself.

Like I said countless times, it is still more worth while for bumi to get projects like Panorama/Cantara. You are arguing HARD on 1ksqf vs 800ksqf by taking the cheapest of Lot15 pitting against a 1ksqf. No matter how you put it, price for price, it is more worth while for Cantara with the additional 2% bumi discount and the furnishing that comes with it, that's just me but hey, you do you.

I'm pretty sure you are trying to justify your purchase to make yourself feel better but it is OK. Like you said, you MUST buy a property in Subang but for others, I just want to say that Panorama/Cantara are within close proximity and they are good for consideration as well if they are bumi. 2-5% additional discount is no joke...Panorama for example is like you having double your bumi discount in Lot15.

Again, just want to point out to bumi buyers that there are better options with their money if they are looking towards subang. I know you've bought yours so no point defending... just accept it bro..

This post has been edited by holypredator: Jul 2 2019, 09:32 PM

It's okay. You can pusing how many round as you like. Got my answers already. The price 818k listed by agent is for bumi price. The link which u provided. And that agent happened to be the one who I have chit chat with and bring me for the tour when I visited cantara

I dont need to make myself feel better. it's my choice. Other people does not make decision on my behalf. I just take the pros and cons for my consideration.

Just pointing out that you are misleading people like you always do.



The base price for corner unit (TYPE B) is RM837,888. Nett price is nowhere near 800k. Last I check, still available, lowest level, tower A.

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I appreciate your comments on the pros and cons but not misleading. Try your luck with other person.

It is not bumi price. Come on, don't just blatantly mislead people like that.

Also, by your logic, every 800+ sqf starts from 820k nett onwards then if you use that screenshot as argument. Din't you say your unit was 740k nett before bumi and referral etc.

That is another misleading point.

Now. Who's shitting other people? Lol

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Feel free to whatsapp the agent. Its based on the link you posted yesterday. You share the link, you dont even ask the agent. then assume 818k before discount.. stop trolling in props thread please.

incase you forgot which link u randomly share



By base price. I mean the cheapest list price for each unit..

This post has been edited by naqib0307: Jul 2 2019, 10:39 PM

Ok, you win lo... 818k after bumi discount.


if like you say nett price for the cheapest unit of the corner unit is no where near 800k... if like you say RM838k for the cheapest unit... if you work it out minus 5%.... I wouldn't say it would be that far off from the 818k 1k sqf unit aint it? Think about it

Its okay bro. Not everyday is your day to win trolling people. Just take it as a lesson, some people equipped themselves with facts and figures before an argument.

minus the 5%? then minus the 7% bumi for cantara as well. Like I said, make a fair comparison.

u remove the bumi discount, remove for both.

750k 861sqft vs 875k 1066sqft

different people have different views on how huge is the amount of money. Maybe RM100k+ difference is not a lot to you. To me, its a lot.

Price psf, cantara cheaper. But at this point of view, looking at total price which is lower. So with this, I can conclude that your argument saying lot15 corner price = cantara 1ksqft is invalid

take a rest. Practice more on your maths and thinking skills

goodnight

Thanks. Ur facts indeed helps

what I don't understand is why even compare two properties at two different locations and two vast different prospects?????

don't make any cow sense. of course there will be price differences.

So basically, you've backtracked your words and now trying to give excuses. It's ok man, I understand.

I've never directed my points to you in the first place anyway.... not sure why you are so hellbend about defending your purchase. Perhaps you just want to console yourself but it's ok.... maybe next time try to do your homework first before purchasing a property... I know some people never thought of these aspects and just buy based on gut feeling but since now you've learned from our conversation, perhaps your next purchase you can be a bit more wiser.

I am curious to why Sime advertise Lot 15 as Home like Hotel.

It does not have concierge or bell boy services. There is no room cleaning services offered or even facilities that resembles hotel/resort.

Before you argue about all those are not relevant, bare in mind that there are a lot of service apartment that actually offers these services.

For example :

Four seasons KL/The face suites etc. - They have concierge, bell boy services, a bar on lobby...basically everything that resembles a 5 star hotel.
Avara Seputeh - They have shuttle services, day care center (Not really hotel type services but these facilities are common for resorts like hotel)
Sunway Serene - They have 24hrs medical care, day care etc.
There is 1 project with a bar next to swimming pool or something but can't remember the name.

Lot 15 on the other hand has the facilities that of a regular gated condominium and nothing more. Not saying it is bad but it is nothing like its marketing of it being like a "hotel". If anything it is the least hotel like service apartment compared to any other service apartment in the market.

Depending on how the MC/JMB set the rule, some with concierge service is actually beneficial. For example, they help you to collect mails and also sign parcels. Those shitty ones with no rules will take advantage of concierge to make it as a convenience for AirBnB.

Again, not saying it is a good thing to have hotel facilities cause it will increase the maintenance fee but it is quite out of place constantly advertising yourself as "hotel" like home when compared to any other service apartment, it is further from the truth.

This post has been edited by holypredator: Jul 12 2019, 11:59 PM

Hi, not only that, rght in front of it is this :-

- TNB sub Station,
- & facing HTC !?


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The 1ksqf one living room video facing the sub station prod some more.

To be fair, there are some units that are good to buy. The corner units that are out of TNB sub station sight. The rest, where you can see the TNB from your living room or facing facilities or facing flyover... all pretty shitty.

That area is super clean and quite. On top of that it is walking distance to many amenities and there will be more development from SDP on that location. Lot 15 (a freehold property) price can only go up in the coming years.

I've compared countless properties within that area and nothing beats Lot 15 for non-bumi (low bumi discount, which won't devalue your property that fast).

But for bumi to buy it... it is just a waste (pure rugi and a waste of their bumi privilege) and I just felt that they did not do their homework. If I am bumi, panorama is the perfect choice (10% discount) + a mosque just behind the block. Cantara also a good choice for non-bumi (7% bumi discount).

If 750++ psft is it ok or not? But unit face inside la not the one with scenery

That is consider cheap there. The face in unit is depend on your own preference. Some ppl like some ppl dont. If for cantara i like the facing in also cause its big and got things to see. But for lot15 not so sure what u can see.