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post Jun 6 2014, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Jun 6 2014, 05:12 PM)
Hello,vios go compare with preve edi la..
persona is taxi , dun compare liao.
u compare dinosaur and robot.
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B segment vs C segment wor whistling.gif Persona is also under the C segment category.


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post Jun 8 2014, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jun 7 2014, 06:39 PM)
surfacing up from the sea...
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How's your Waja's handering? Better than a boat, I suppose? yawn.gif Nowhere as good as a Kancil I suspect, just like every Poorton cars, because it's a Poorton. yawn.gif

QUOTE(vampire_empirez @ Jun 7 2014, 06:48 PM)
Who knows how to get OEM front bumper for elegance? recommended shop and price?
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From Proton. Proton Edar or Proton Service Center. RMxxx bumper + respray + workmanship. Guaranteed original.
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post Jun 8 2014, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(King Muhammad @ Jun 8 2014, 11:48 AM)
Hi..just want to share with you all , last Saturday  31st may 2014, i receive a call to collect  my "First car" that i buy after work for one year to save deposit money.

In deep  my heart so happy till can appear in my face. I go to proton showroom Mutiara  Damansara with all my family (ye lah first time buy new car rite smile.gif )to collect my first car PERSONA SV AUTO.

When i arrived there the salesman show me my  car.. WOOWW i so happy.
and the salesman ask me to seat  inside driver area  , suddenly i very disappointed and shock because there is flooded water leaking at driver side.

After that  i found all the door cant close properly like other car, this door i need to push  till  end body car  with energy force to make sure that  door close tight n properly.

So i told the salesman i don't want this car, please change  me with another new persona sv !!!

Just imagine my friends , i never use that  car but already found the problem, so after  used ... just  guest lah??

Proton told me they want to send back the car to Tanjung Malim for inspection.

I never used my car but already  need to deal with customer services..
I don't know they will change me to new car or still will give me the same car, just imagine i will remember this sad incident forever in my life when drive that car.

Just  for sharing to those seek for information before you buy your first car..
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Sounds completely like shoddy workmanship. hmm.gif Is Poorton trying to rush the production of the SV or something? sleep.gif Those issues that you are facing are easily solvable provided that
a) the water leakage source is from an improperly placed weather sheet/seal or something similar
b) the door is hard to close due to the misalignment of the door striker plate.

But yeah, insist on a new car.
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post Jun 8 2014, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(Xefron @ Jun 8 2014, 04:24 PM)
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Doesn't really look particularly eye-catching. Maybe it's the angle.

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I want this one. brows.gif
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post Jun 8 2014, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(kennywee92 @ Jun 8 2014, 04:51 PM)
Our "dalam laut" former TS's car looks almost like this brows.gif
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His front bumper, if properly fitted, looks much better than the one made by R3 for the Persona. Somehow it just doesn't look nice.
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QUOTE(kennywee92 @ Jun 8 2014, 06:59 PM)
This is R3 for Persona? I thought is the same one with NEO
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If my memory serves me right, yes. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(qms_ria @ Jun 8 2014, 08:27 PM)
Hi. I am buying a Proton Persona SE' 2008 from a used car dealer. Can anyone please tell me what things to check when buying a second hand proton car?? This is my first time buying a Proton. So I really don't know what to look for. I have already paid the booking and I'm waiting for the car to go for inspection in puspakom. The dealer insisted once the inspection is done, I pay him full.

Can anyone please accompany me to check the car, before I officially get it??

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I'm attaching the picture of the engine here. Please lemme know if anything looks fishy..
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Jun 8 2014, 08:57 PM)
For a Persona:
1) Turn the steering left and right with or without car movement. If there's a "wheeee" sound while turning, it's likely due to the lack of maintenance for the power steering system, i.e fluid replacement not done at recommended intervals or at all.

2) Check for engine mounting condition. A Persona with engine mountings in a good condition shouldn't have much vibrations at all. Observe the steering wheel, rear and side mirrors. They should be barely shaking, and so should the interior of the car. If for any reason the vibration in the car seems intrusive, the engine mountings probably need to be replaced.

3) Turn the engine on with the air-cond turned on as well. If there's a high pitched noise coming from the engine bay, it could be due to either a worn-out FEAD (accessory) belt, or one or more bearings connected to the FEAD belt are worn out, e.g the FEAD belt tensioner. At the same time check if the radiator fan is turning when the air-cond compressor is engaged, and if yes, how fast. The radiator fan for non-Elegance Personas is generally loud at the highest speed and should produce no squeeking noise. If it does, the fan motor probably needs replacement.

4) For the blower  module, turn the blower to the Off position and observe. If for any reason the blower comes on at the off position, the blower module needs to be replaced. If no, turn it to the on position and observe again. The fan speed should be constant as long as the fan speed switch is not being moved. If for any reason the blower speed fluctuates, the module probably needs to be replaced.

5) Check for the audio controls on the steering wheel. General feedback for it is that it normally fails after some time and goes haywire, e.g raising the volume without any input if I remember correctly.

6) Like all Protons, check if the power windows are working. It should not be making any noise at all if it's in a good condition. If there seems to be some creaking noise when going up or down, something within the power window system may require replacement, e.g window regulator.

7) And like all other cars, bring it out for a drive. The drive should be pretty smooth and quiet (provided that the tyres are decent and and both the tyres and shocks are in a good condition), e.g no humming sound (that could indicate a worn out wheel bearing). Check for the CV joints condition (located at each end of the drive shaft) by turning while moving. There should not be any clicking or weird noise while turning (that could indicate worn out CV joints). Try out the ABS module by getting up to speed and applying the brake heavily (and safely). Listen for any high pitched noise while braking. It could be either due to worn out brake pads, worn out rotors and etc.

List of common "issue" for the Persona:
a) Braking noise when coming to a complete stop (sounds like "nguup"). Can be avoided by applying the brake earlier so that the braking force applied can be gradually reduced to almost zero or zero (car stops itself by road friction) upon reaching a set of traffic lights or an intersection. Annoyance level subjected to driver/passengers preference.

b) Slight loose metal knocking noise coming from the driver's footwell when going over multiple small bumps on the road, or going up/down on the ramps shaped like arrows of car parks. Generally not really a big annoyance; rarely appears.

c) The usual rattling or interior noise for many Proton cars. For the Persona, they are generally solvable and are in small numbers and it's normally due to poor workmanship/QC during installation of interior bits and pieces. If you're lucky, yours won't have any noise at all. If it does, you'll have to either take some time off to pinpoint the source and apply corrective measures or pay someone to do it for you.

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Additional things to do if you want:
a)Knock on the body panels of the car, especially the door. If for any reason a door has been repaired, its panels could possibly be thinner. You can check by opening the doors of the car and closing them with moderate force. The doors of the car should not sound like tin cans and the doors on one side of the car should sound similar to the one on the other.

b) Check the gap between the boot and the tail lights. They should be pretty small. You shouldn't be able to get even your pinky through the gap. If you can, the car may have been rear-ended. Additional tell-tale signs are the car number plate holder (shouldn't be cracked), and the spare-wheel compartment of the car (should not exhibit any crumpling and the sort).

c) Check the tail lights for functionality. When braking, the outer circle of the tail lamps lights up only together with the high mounted stop lamp. With the lights of the car turned on, the outer and middle circle of the tail lights should be turned on, but only the outer circle bulb increases in intensity (and the high mounted stop lamp comes on again) when the brake pedal is applied. This part of the car is generally unchecked by many, and you can see quite many Personas with the crop circle style tail lights with one or more lights not working.

d) Oh, and check and secure the tow-hook cover (located in the middle and bottom of the rear bumper). The part that secures the tow-hook cover to the bumper or skirting can break easily overtime, and it may fall out if that happens. Costs over RM50 if I'm not mistaken, and the car looks pretty bad with a gaping hole in the bottom part of the bumper.

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QUOTE(uncopyrightable @ Jun 8 2014, 09:15 PM)
feel my SV(auto) engine room very hot.
any recommended solution to decrease the temp ?
atf cooler ?
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Hi.

There's not much you can do about the heat as the Campro engine runs rather hot (average of 88C during operation). If you feel worried however, make sure the coolant is changed regularly and properly as well(as in to use distilled or RO water rather than tap water to fill the radiator after pouring coolant in to prevent rust). Good things aren't cheap, cheap things aren't (sometimes) good.

Spend more on the radiator coolant (2L should be enough for both the radiator and excess tank), and get about 15L of distilled water (RM1.8) each if you want to flush the radiator, or just about 5L or so if you're just topping up the radiator and the excess tank and not filling the entire cooling system (which includes the coolant pathways through the engine).

Edit: If I'm not mistaken, the last time I tried topping up the radiator, I used about 3L or less only after pouring the coolant in. Whatever it is, just pour it in slowly if you don't want to waste your precious coolant until it reaches the top of the radiator. If you have a radiator attachment that allows air bubbles to be vented out of the radiator while preventing the water from flowing out under pressure, that would be great. Otherwise the best alternative is probably to drive the car and let the air bubles flow out from the excess radiator coolant line to the excess tank and out from there (there are two hoses; one which goes into the excess tank: the one for the coolant retrieval, another for the air bubble(s) I believe).

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QUOTE(uncopyrightable @ Jun 8 2014, 09:25 PM)
thanks for your reply
the coolant is the green liquid ?
can refill it by myself ?
newbie here
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Not necessarily always green. It depends on the coolant itself. For my case, I bought Castrol Radicool (SF or something, forgot), and it was blue in color.

Yes, you can fill the radiator yourself. You can empty it by opening the pet-cock located on the bottom left of the radiator (from your point of view when facing the engine from the outside and the front of the car). Once the water stops flowing out, screw it back tight and pour the coolant in (33% mix of total cooling system content), which works out to 1.67L in the radiator and 333ML in the excess tank if I remember correctly. The rest fill it up with distilled or RO water, and slowly to prevent overflowing. Check back regularly for a few days/weeks to see the level of the radiator content as it will reduce as the air bubbles escape from the system, if any.
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QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Jun 9 2014, 02:55 PM)
we wont even know if sv is new model..maybe they cannot sell finish,so juz put sv..kikiki

got money sue proton,y drive proton?
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That's cause everyone has different priorities when it comes to their cars? rolleyes.gif

Below RM100,000, I'd probably only consider mostly Proton cars, but that's because I'm more biased towards a car's handling. I wouldn't want something that seems/is stable on a straight line but sucks when it comes to cornering. Plenty of examples on the road, you know? rolleyes.gif Lets be honest, Lotus R&H may seem like a marketing gimmick to some, but it DOES work. Their cars may not be known for quality but I don't think you can deny that the cars drive pretty well compared to many others under the aforementioned price range.

If I really want to bother about interior quality and stuff, I'd look at the cars over the range of 140,000, and not at some cars that are better in relative comparison at the range of 100,000 and below, but are still just "in between" for interior quality and stuff, aka nothing much to shout about.

QUOTE(szaku89 @ Jun 9 2014, 03:03 PM)
Bros, am really worried would the addition d spoil my engine. Ya poorfag la what to do, sue because of principle, not money. They should have known what is informed consent, meminta keizinan.
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Fuel injector cleaner? I don't think it should be much of a problem. I'd be more worried if it was an engine oil additive or something like the X1R.
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jun 9 2014, 04:11 PM)
Not if u specify first what to change. I always do that so to avoid belakang mari tactics. ph34r.gif
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Yours is still under warranty ke? brows.gif Help me claim middle air vents. RM20 starbucks give you.
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QUOTE(Beogatts @ Jun 9 2014, 04:20 PM)
agreed.. but lawyer neva interested in this type of cases... blush.gif
so moral to all drivers here.. dont get ur neck chopped off by SC.
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Yes. Please get chopped by outside workshop. cool2.gif
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I've seen the work done by some car detailing shop called Premium Wash or something at Kota Damansara. All I can say is that the owners might be paying a lot for something pretty bad. Shiny car but plenty of machine polishing marks over the car body doh.gif.
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jun 9 2014, 05:53 PM)
only hand.. no machine..  laugh.gif  sweat.gif  laugh.gif
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If you get a machine/polishing tool drill attachment, the results between it and hand polishing is like heaven and earth. You'd have to kill yourself to get the same results with hand. Both can be equally tiring though because the machine can be quite heavy.

I use a polishing tool attached to a drill (Megs DA Power system), and the vibration and the weight of the drill is a pretty bad combination. Trains muscles though cool2.gif
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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jun 9 2014, 06:03 PM)
I got unoehuat to throw at u...remind me when we meet wednesday brows.gif
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I want free R3 rims cool2.gif.
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jun 9 2014, 06:03 PM)
depend how much time u willing to do with ur hand... if ur a detail person it can outcome juz like machine...

my frenz apt got 1 old uncle polishing work damn good... hand saja... can compare to machine liao but times haha damn long.....
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Mhmm. It takes quite long to produce the same results. Time is not what I or most people have, unfortunately, and with just a semi covered porch. doh.gif Rain and sun sleep.gif
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QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Jun 9 2014, 06:58 PM)
Sorry guys , I have failed you all. For previous deal of RM 7 , the dealer say out of stock. The only left is RM8.50 per piece, but I have negotiate until he will to deal RM 8 per piece (same price with saga). The other options , what he reply to me . If u guys are insist want RM 7 stock , have to wait manufacturer replenish. So U guys decided with Fubar. Please reply to me ASAP.  Once again, Sorry guys.  sad.gif
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What's the difference between the RM7 and RM8 filter? If it's better I don't mind paying extra.
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jun 9 2014, 07:10 PM)
8 bucks mia smaller holes. Better filtration.
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Buy lo cool2.gif.
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Jun 11 2014, 11:51 AM)
yes sv but brake pedal not shaking ... just can feel the back of car like goyang2.. i thought will crash already becoz it happen so fast .. car  in front me make brake emergency since the few infront slow but still on fast lane... huh oh thanks god
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QUOTE(Beogatts @ Jun 12 2014, 12:21 PM)
wat tool do i need?
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A correct size Allen Key.

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