sial, i laffed until i threw up yesterdays dinner.

Bijan is 100% bumi. Grow from earth like zombie.

That comment with that profile pic. Sakit perut gelak wo HAHAHA

I'm not sure I have been using race and ethnic correctly. Hmm...

Another definition (only for Malaysia) is Malay as defined in the constitution. Eg. Malays (as race or ethnic) can be Christians, Hindus, etc. but in Malaysia Malays (by law/in constitution) is a Muslim.

As for Brits... Please read the link.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1288231.stm

I think Malay is more like Han. Malay have Bugis, Jawanese, etc. while Han have Cantonese, Hokkien, etc.

But Cantonese and Hokkien are not even ethnic/race concept you know. They are just language classification.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malay_race#Malaysian_context

Does this help us in understanding the Malay race and ethnic? Does Boyanese, Achinese, Javanese, Bugis, Manilamen (Filipino) and Siamese got assimilated into Malay or what? Or are they under 'other Natives of Archipelago' category?


This post has been edited by Varezart: May 7 2015, 12:48 PM

aiyoo, bugis pun mau bising. mamak king also call himself malay right

Tak kisah bangsa apa yang penting perangai macam Yahudi..

tak kesah apa bangsa, bila tetak dengan parang, sama2 nampak merah

#hentikanlahperkauman

for 'malay'...they call anyone from malaysia and indonesia even bangla and arab as malay...

That's why they can't differentiate chinese malaysian with chinese prc Chinese hk and taiwan etc....

Inb4 mana indian again?

Tanah ini milik siapa?

U wan to see his family tree ar? I can trace it back until his moyang punya monyang also



Bijan mia moyang punya bapak

This post has been edited by Boy96: May 7 2015, 01:07 PM

Simple answer. Depends on how you define race/ehtnic. Can be political/cultural/genetic.

Cantonese Hokkien etc have different culture.

Cantonese and Hokkien have different culture? Really? Even in China, there's no Cantonese and Hokkien ethnicity you know.

Can call them stupid for calling the new migrant bumiputera.

But please don't say that Bugis in Selangor who are here pre-Merdeka, and come before us, are immigrants. Or Negeri Sembilan Minangkabaus for that matter.

Malaysian Hokkien Cantonese, etc have different culture, call it slight difference if you want.

Most traditional folk culture in China are wiped out by communism. We are unique! Yay.

Bugis is a sub ethic in Malay race.

I think someone need to be educate about the Malay race.

Malay race not only in Malaysia and we need to open our mind into more horizon.

Dont limit yourself and and "pemikiran" that when the term Malay used first thing in your mind are Melayu in Malaysia.

Malay race is a big race. and Melayu in Malaysia is a sub ethnic of Malay.


Pinoy also considered themselves as Malay and they proud of "brown race" blood in them. Manny "Pacman" Pacquiao the world boxer look really like the Malay and very strong fighting (dominant strong blood).

http://thediplomat.com/2013/02/are-filipinos-malays/

If asked about their race, most Filipinos would identify as being Malay. Filipinos are taught in schools to be proud of their Malay heritage and encouraged to strengthen their ties with other Malays in Southeast Asia.

But Filipinos wishing to migrate in Singapore have to deny this fundamental identification because the Singapore government rejects the classification of Filipinos as Malay. But if Filipinos are not Malay, what ethnicity are they? Officially, Singapore recognizes immigrants from the neighboring Philippines as part of the racial category referred to as “Other.”.

What about the Malay ethnic? Is ethnic Malay sub ethnic in Malay race? When people in Malaysia refer themselves as Malay, do they mean Malay as in race or ethnic concept?

I read that Philippines ethnic group is also very diverse.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups...the_Philippines

This post has been edited by Varezart: May 7 2015, 01:26 PM

Najib: Gowa visit like a homecoming
November 19, 2009
http://www.thestar.com.my/story/?file=%2F2...ation%2F5142635

MAKASSAR (South Sulawesi): For Datuk Seri Mohd Najib Tun Razak, his second visit to this capital city of South Sulawesi since becoming Prime Minister is by far the most nostalgic one.



“I feel like I am returning to my roots,” said Najib at the end of his one-day official visit yesterday. He is making his fourth visit to the capital.

Najib was here as the guest-of-honour at the 689th anniversary of the Gowa state government. He was invited by Gowa head of state Ichsan Yasin Limpo.

Najib, who is the descendant of Gowa’s 19th King, Sultan Abdul Jalil Tumenanga ri Lakiung, and his wife Datin Seri Rosmah Mansor were earlier accorded a welcome normally reserved for royalty.

The elaborate Bugis “official welcoming ceremony” or amantuli was held at South Sulawesi Governor Syahrul Yasin Limpo’s official residence.

Najib and Rosmah also wore special Gowa attire, a cream coat and black and gold silk sarong with a gold songkok for him and a dark red Bugis “bodo” tunic with a sarong similar to Najib’s for her.

They then proceeded to the Shekh Yusuf Discovery Park where the anniversary celebration took place.

Speaking to Malaysian journa­lists at the airport before returning to Kuala Lumpur, Najib said he truly felt at home in Makassar.

Asked to comment on the possibility that some people might view the fact that he had roots here in a negative light, Najib said: “I am not apologetic about it. This is my family history and I am proud of it.”

Najib, who is the 11th Orang Kaya Shah­bandar of Pahang, said he was the direct descendant of Bugis royalty who migrated to Pahang in the 18th century and was made the first Orang Kaya Shah­bandar carrying the title Toh Tuan.

Najib had inherited the title from his father, the second prime minister Tun Abdul Razak who was the 10th Orang Kaya Shah­bandar.

In 2005, Najib was awarded the title Mappadulung Daeng Matti­mung Karaeng Sanrobone by the Bugis government.

Najib said Malaysia’s interest to jointly develop Makassar and its surrounding areas into ricebowl areas would benefit both sides as food security had become very important for the region. Malaysia was also interested in developing livestock and animal husbandry industries in the region, he added.

Najib said he had already raised the issue with Indonesian Presi­dent Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono during his recent visit to Malay­sia.

Najib also witnessed the signing of a memorandum of understanding between four Malaysian research and development companies with the Hassanudin Universiti.

This post has been edited by ray123: May 7 2015, 01:28 PM