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luigee
post Mar 25 2018, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(memekfalui @ Mar 25 2018, 08:43 PM)
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Doing extensive research my friend???

It is weekend u know?

Should reply on Monday morning , got more traffic

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Weekday kerja la kawan. Nanti bos marah
hirano
post Mar 25 2018, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(luigee @ Mar 25 2018, 09:08 PM)
Weekday kerja la kawan. Nanti bos marah
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Do you realised you necro'd 3 year old thread?
LamboSama
post Mar 25 2018, 09:15 PM

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Bugis is his ancestral, malay is his race.
Just like mamak.
luigee
post Mar 25 2018, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(hirano @ Mar 25 2018, 09:11 PM)
Do you realised you necro'd 3 year old thread?
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Yeah, I know lol. Just that I beh tahan the misinformation and since the political landscape in Malaysia is always about race, the subject never really goes dead B-)

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DoraemonNobita
post Mar 25 2018, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Jun 1 2014, 10:36 PM)
real bugis from makasar don't consider themselves malay....
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My gf half bugis never admit she Malay and she dowan be Malay lmao
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post Mar 25 2018, 11:56 PM

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bubis no telor
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post Mar 26 2018, 07:35 AM

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QUOTE(wadieq @ Jun 1 2014, 10:17 PM)
acheh, bugis semua malay
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Jowo = malay

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luigee
post Mar 26 2018, 06:52 PM

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My understanding is, when Malays talk about race, it's NOT about the Malay ethnicity (or original Malay/anak jati Melayu) but about the race as in white, black, yellow, brown, etc. so they are referring to the Nusantara or Austronesian race to be exact. It's psychologically normal for people to associate themselves to a bigger/greater group to feel proud about themselves. That's why Malays in Malaysia like to associate themselves as WE Muslims (1.8 billion) or WE Malays (according to the 17-18th century concept by German scientist Johann Friedrich Blumenbach), whereas in Indonesia, your ethnic identity is stronger where Javanese people dominate and people like the Balinese Hindus continue to exert their unique identity against the tide of Javanisation.

Indians on the other hand I believe are of two races, Indo-Aryan (mostly Northern Indian like Punjabi, Gujarati, Bengali, Marathi, etc.) and Dravidian (Tamil, Telugu, Kannada, Malayalee). Each sub-races stated here are know as individual ethnic groups. Indo-Aryans are the ancient Iranians / Scythians that came from the north that displaced the Dravidians south and both are responsible for the great Indus civilization that lasted 10,000 years way before the great ancient Chinese civilization. However in today's society, we just simply refer to them as Indians, just like how we call the people from Pakistan (mostly Punjabis and some Pashtun) and Bangladesh (mostly Bengali people) by their country of origin.

Chinese on the other hand, you can refer to them as both race and ethnicity. As 90-95% of Chinese are of the ethnic Han group, it hardly makes any difference. DNA research has shown that they are differences between the Chinese, Korean and Japanese, so these 3 can be considered 3 difference races/nations as opposed to the Mongoloid race, although lookwise they are relatively similar.
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post Mar 26 2018, 06:53 PM

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bugis, blah blah blah is subset of Malay.
luigee
post Mar 26 2018, 07:19 PM

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Malays in Malaysia are actually a diversely mixed people, compared to Malaysian Indians and Chinese. In rural areas, the Malays are darker (sawo matang or ciku skin colour), but in the city they are all sort of tones (white, yellow, brown, sawo matang, etc). Most of them I can bet have Arab (Yemeni Hadrami blood) like your Syed xxx Alhabshi or Alsagoff, Indian like your Mydin, Merican, etc, Chinese, Mat Salleh (look at your Malay celebrities sudah tahu la) and all sorts of mix.

If you look at all our prime ministers, royalty, GLC corporate leaders, Malay elite etc. all of them have at least some non-Malay blood or ancestry. Like our first Malaysian astronaut, tengok nama dan muka pun tahu dah ada celup sini sana. Do you know that the Perak royal family has some Chinese ancestry (on top of Bugis, Minang, Arab, etc.)? Even the Johor family has some Chinese ancestry when Her Majesty Tuanku Permaisuri Zarith Sofiah married His Majestry Sultan Ibrahim. So their children actually have Malay, Bugis, English (via Sultan's mother) and some Chinese blood. Do you know Queen Zarith Sofiah actually did Chinese studies in Oxford (so she knows Mandarin)? Not to forget a lot of past Sultans and other states also had Chinese wives.

So the conclusion is, we should all strive to live in harmony and not talk about race all the time because we human beings are mixed at some point. And I can assure the Malays that no one is interested in removing your Malay rights as it's already in the constitution and it's all just political talk to gain more votes (army, police majority Malay what to scared about aiyo). Don't believe me just ask Tun Dr M lor lol. Like Chinese people, they only care if the gomen can improve the quality of education, chinese schools (at least primary level), allocate more scholarships (last time a lot of 9As and 10As students don't even get scholarships, now dunno la), and most importantly tackle corruption and leakages (dont' waste taxpayers money la). And if can accommodate other races and Bumiputera groups and their needs then Jibby can remain as PM for a long time.

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