if cannot tie back to a Johorean family tree then most likely it's bullshit. Usually the malays that mengaku bugis without justification of ancestor's lineage are doing it coz they think it's cool to associate with the origin of the Johor sultanate. Bugis is actually a very big family tree. So sapa mengaku tapi takleh prove memang originally batak pipu.

Selangor, pahang and probably terengganu too are bugis also. Not to mention, datuk onn, tun razak, all johor mb, ali rustam and so on. They did something no chinis manage to do. Come into a foreign land and control it.

Its not that hard to identified a bugis even without prove. They all act the same way.

they usually tall with fairer skin, like gurl,money,power a lot.a family man but most likely A selfish person even to their own wife and kids, control freak with a hot tempered problem. Does not no the words bertolak ansur which usually is the reason they fail.

Wow, your analysis is kinda harsh but I'm afraid I'd hv to agree with you. Usually its their temper that gets the best of them. I'm bugis + minang. But i beg to differ on trengganu pipu. They mostly from dark skinned pipu. Suku2 kaum kling from penang punya off-shot kot.

Really? I thought I was being kind:lol: , I havent included arrogant, manipulative, back stabbing, couldn't let go of a grudge. I dont know if I am one. but I know, me and my family does subscribe to these behaviors naturally and we struggle to kept it under control.

On observations, bugis don't usually like others to know who they are, they will always emphasis on their adopted malay culture as their identity. even 1 johor distance royal member that I know emphasis more on his tun habib of acheh+Yemen ancestors. I assume whenever a bugis say he's a bugis like bijan, sultan sarafuddin and tan sri khalid does is where ever they felt threaten.

Example.TSKI was a really nice dude, he's really sincere in doing his jobs, my uncle know him when he was an umno Macai, he like to help and give opportunity to people. But sadly under pressure, he snap and single handedly destroy pakatan even though he help built it with millions of his own money.


Anyway. Killer combo bro.minang and bugis are rivals from long long ago. Combine together, That's bijan+Rosmah level powder.:lol:Am trying to score a 1/2 minang,1/2 chinis chick myself.

Yes, Han Chinese consists of many ethnic group joining together but it really doesn't matter because if you want to talk about history, all human come from Africa anyway. No ethnic group are homogeneous. Malay, Javanese, Bali are not homogeneous. Even Japanese are not pure but mix of Jomon, Yayoi(who are from China and Korea) and Ainu. No, Javanese to Malay is not Canto to Hoklo people, Cantonese and Hoklo are not ethnic group. Chinese to Japanese will be Javanese to Malay equivalent. Do research on Han Chinese before making silly mistakes. Read the research by the German scientist on how he classify human race where he group Japanese, Chinese, Korean together under Mongolian, Yellow Race just like how he classify Javanese and Malay under one brown race.

Javanese to Malay = Chinese to Japanese

OR, if you want to separate the Han Chinese, we can also said

Javanese to Malay = Hokkien to Japanese/Cantonese to Japanese/Cantonese to Korea

I realize that even among Javanese, they have their own subgroup?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javanese_people

Osing to Tenggerese = Hokkien to Cantonese

About Chinese population, they only grew in huge number to billion during the Qing dynasty period which is 1644-1912.

http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/special/chin..._population.htm

Before that, their population is usually 100 - 200 million throughout Chinese history. Yes, there is sudden population jump during Qing dynasty as you can see from the graph.

In case you want to know what I mean when I said Yayoi is from China.

http://www.trussel.com/prehist/news111.htm

This post has been edited by Varezart: May 8 2015, 04:55 PM

Ayam pon bugis jugak. My father said from keturunan raja bugis. I got many relatives in Indonesia.

corrupt

Wow, seems I'm not alone. Shud sappork liverpool i guess

The devastating combo of bugis + minang is a testament in my femily. Would make Dallas or Dynasty blush rike a little girl. We oso no go dropping names in real life about our origin and connections. Here oni i tok, like anyone knows who's who in a pubric forum like /k. Nor does anyone give a fcuk. Rite bro?

Btw, johor got a number of royalty. Unless you can show a family tree = blood connection then it's just plain disdain all the way for most of the rest, like your friend. Btw, /k isn't a conducive environment to talk about these things.

I dunno bout the desperate measures of some pipu to mention their alleged origins when in a tight corner. Does it help? Really? How? Licnse to behave like one? Or an affliction for the general characteristic of being Bugis? Swaggering like a bawse

Yes, my gene is powderful, indeed No lah, i tok kok onirrr...

is a booger

Duh...wrong again. Hokkien,Hoklo,Hakka = not ethnic group
Actually, I'm not sure who are this ethnic group that join together as Han. They probably already extinct for centuries and no longer exist due to assimilation.

These are list of ethnic group in China's history before modern day. As you can see, no mention of Hokkien, Hakka, Cantonese etc as ethnic group.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups...f_ethnic_groups




Javanese to bugisnese to melayu = Cantonese to hokkien to hakka to Japanese to Korean

Javanese + Melayu + Bugis +Batak + Minagkabau + Banjar + Boyanese + Pinoy etc = Malay Race.
Cantonese + Hokkien + Hakka + Japanese + Korean = Mongoloid race

Why left out Japanese and Korean and didn't group them with Chinese? It is ok to group Javanese, Bugis and Malay together as one race but not okay to group Japanese, Chinese and Korean together as same race? That just bias. They too are Mongoloid race. I would like to hear explanation from you otherwise, you are just bias and not objective.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinodonty_and_Sundadonty

See? Even Chinese, Japanese and Korean share the same dentition.

Han Chinese(Hokkien, Mandarin, Hakka, Cantonese), Japanese, Korean = Sinodont

Don't forget, Japanese are mix of Chinese through Yayoi.

No comment. Couldn't care less. Beside, even Indonesia themselves divide Malay race into Sundanese, Bugis, Java and so on.

This post has been edited by Varezart: May 9 2015, 02:54 AM

Base on picture, he is indian

Han Chinese not race lah. Race and ethnic two different thing. Han Chinese is ethnic.

http://www.pbs.org/race/000_About/002_04-experts-03-02.htm
http://www.diffen.com/difference/Ethnicity_vs_Race
http://www.livescience.com/33903-differenc...-ethnicity.html

Han Chinese(Hokkein, Cantonese, Hakka etc), Japanese, Korean same race but different ethnic.

Ethnic Malay, Javanese, Bugis, Balinese same race but different ethnic.

Irish, British, Italian, French, German same race but different ethnic.

This post has been edited by Varezart: May 9 2015, 11:03 AM

Kelantanese is race or not?

Inb4 Geekbuster

malay comes from palembang, bugis from sulawesi. different people.

modern era royalty lah. no one knows what ever happen to those bendahara clan. last heard they get evicted from istana kg gelam and work as a lorry driver, one of my workers is a raja from selangor, and i once joke to her, why ur ancestors kalah perang one? now u so poorfag . me come from melaka, where ancestors story aren't really something people are so focus one. considering no one relly can get to run top goverment official and live is good as the brits give out free education + land = wealth. i dont belip if someone is from a great man, dont necessarily mean his offspring will be gooding. just look at mahathir sons . got one royal family claim they from prophet also, but tak hensem pon


i think its good to know ur DNA that shape your personality, as well as knowing your zodiac. so u know whats your capability, weakness is or your strength and you could also predict what others might do based on their body type, DNA and zodiac.

So melayu malaysia got how many type?

Among Malays in Malaysia, they identified themselves into 3 groups, i.e. anak jati (the real ethnic Malay), anak dagang (other ethnic groups like Javanese, Buginese, Minangkabau, etc that assimilated into Malay) and peranakan/jawi pekan (those of Arab or Indian ancestry). Some mixed mamaks can be considered under the 3rd group where you can find a lot of them in Penang/Kedah. Most of anak jatis concentrate along the northern states while the anak dagangs along western coastal states like Selangor, Negeri Sembilan and Johor.

However, given that the constitution in Malaysia and the definition of Malay is political, they consider themselves all Malay belonging to the greater Malay race of Nusantara/Malay archipelago. In Indonesia, it's a different story as each ethnic group have their own languages, written language and culture although there are some overlaps due to influences here and there. Most Indonesians are ethnic Javanese (about 100 million or more) with their own proud culture and history that predates Melaka so I don't think they would call themselves Malay as that would refer to the much smaller group in Indonesia.

Doing extensive research my friend???

It is weekend u know?

Should reply on Monday morning , got more traffic

Malaysian Chinese on the other hand, most of them descended from Southern Han Chinese. The Northern and Southern Han share the same DNA on the paternal side with slight difference on the maternal due to the fact that Han soldiers and people assimilated with the southern tribes thousand of years before when ancient Chinese were expanding their territory southwards from the Yellow River. The different dialect groups i.e. Cantonese, Hokkien represent their respective origins from each province/state. It is similar to Kedahan, Trengganu or Kelantanese, each Malay dialect different from each other, but all of them are ethnic Malays. The same goes for Cantonese, Hokkien, etc as they belong to the ethnic Han group, the biggest ethnic group in the world (fact). Of course due to admixtures, the southern Han Chinese differ from the north.