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post Jun 19 2014, 11:59 AM

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Comel je hawk join.hehe
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Mig-29 smoke trail...
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QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Jun 19 2014, 11:57 AM)
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post Jun 19 2014, 12:05 PM

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Hawk tu ikut belakang2 je....maintain low profile. Segan kt abang2 tu
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jun 19 2014, 12:05 PM)
Hawk tu ikut belakang2 je....maintain low profile. Segan kt abang2 tu
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hawk cemerlang sebagai aggressor woo
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post Jun 19 2014, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jun 19 2014, 08:53 AM)
Video of the Syrian T-72 destroyed by FSA rebels by grenade. There was 2 attempts. Don't know before if the 1st attempt the T-72 was firing it's gun or caused by a grenade blast through it's barrell. 2 grenade was thrown into the opened turret hatch. Clearly show that the T-72 was alone without any infantry support.


A more complete pics frame by frame.

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The rest of the pics here: http://www.china.org.cn/world/2014-06/12/c..._32647196_6.htm

A correction from my previous post. The pics shows a projectile coming down into the completely opened turret hatchs of the Iraqi Abrams. Once it was disabled a ISIL member is shown throwing a grenade or some kind of a bomb into one of the Abrams hatch.

Or maybe like what you said that the Abrams was already abandoned.
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looks like the tank didn't suffer any significant damage before they throw grenade in it
one question though, why they didn't just capture the tank and use it? same question for Taliban in Afghanistan, they have captured Soviet tanks and some of Afghan's Army tanks in the past years before their downfall but they didn't use them blink.gif
if they don't know how to operate them, they could just capture a few tank crews and force them to teach..for such large militant group with strong funding behind them, surely they don't have much problem in obtaining the logistic supplies like the tank's ammunition and fuel.. hmm.gif
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post Jun 19 2014, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Jun 18 2014, 08:14 AM)
Military expenditure of South East Asian countries

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Ramai manpower pun tak tentu makin bagus ke tidak. Banyak negara ASEAN manpower ramai,tapi askar kerahan (Conscript) macam Thailand, Vietnam & Singapore. Malaysia fully professional army,tu yang askar sikit tapi belanja banyak,sebab service time panjang, training lebih & gaji lagi tinggi. Askar kerahan dah la kena bayar elaun aje,train basic tactics & pastu service time 12-18 bulan aje.

Banyak pros & cons antara sistem askar professional dengan askar kerahan ni.

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Repost-Sorry....

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post Jun 19 2014, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 19 2014, 02:42 PM)
Ramai manpower pun tak tentu makin bagus ke tidak. Banyak negara ASEAN manpower ramai,tapi askar kerahan (Conscript) macam Thailand, Vietnam & Singapore. Malaysia fully professional army,tu yang askar sikit tapi belanja banyak,sebab service time panjang, training lebih & gaji lagi tinggi. Askar kerahan dah la kena bayar elaun aje,train basic tactics & pastu service time 12-18 bulan aje.

Banyak pros & cons antara sistem askar professional dengan askar kerahan ni.
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TNI is also an all-volunteer, career-based armed forces, Indonesia doesn't have any reserve forces or clear conscription program like Singapore. There's 100 full-time infantry battalions in TNI-AD alone, not counting special forces, Navy's marine and air force's pasukan khas battalions
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jun 18 2014, 05:37 PM)
just 10k personnel? oooo
lets invade Brunei and take their oils  brows.gif  brows.gif
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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Jun 19 2014, 03:15 PM)
Never read Tom Clancy's Marine ka?
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nope..only played their games eg; Splinter Cell laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Jun 19 2014, 02:49 PM)
TNI is also an all-volunteer, career-based armed forces, Indonesia doesn't have any reserve forces or clear conscription program like Singapore. There's 100 full-time infantry battalions in TNI-AD alone, not counting special forces, Navy's marine and air force's pasukan khas battalions
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Not surprising in regards of Indonesia's size and the nature of its scattered archipelago. Furthermore unlike Malaysia which is historically relatively peaceful (except during emergency period) Indonesia has in the past and is still plagued by separatist movements like in Acheh, Maluku and Irian Jaya. So a large armed forces are deployed to keep the (many) separatist movements of the far provinces under control.

Unlike Malaysia which has a Federation-style government where each of the constituent states has its own government and each state has a great deal of freedom in how each state governs itself. Putrajaya actually only has power over federal matters,for example national defense & international relations and in theory,don't have the right to say how each state should be ruled,only how much to allocate the national budget to each state. (Putrajaya bagi duit,suka hati la setiap negeri nak buat apa)

Indonesia is a Unitary-style government where all government power is concentrated in Jakarta. Everything each province does in terms of development and upkeep has to follow Jakarta's say so. Power is delegated to each province only as much as Jakarta sees fit. But obviously sometimes Jakarta-appointed governors don't follow local customs and culture. That's why for provincial people (Achenese, Papuan) with distinct cultural differences from Javanese people in Jakarta actually don't like being ruled by Indonesia and try to secede.

Same with Thailand where,for example,Malay ethnic Muslim peoples of Pattani, Yala and Narathiwat are forced to learn speak Siamese language in everyday matters. One of the reasons why the three southern Thai provinces want more autonomy powers within Thailand. The people are ethnic Malays and have little in common with the Siamese people who run the government in Bangkok, but is forced to live by Siamese and Buddhist values. Ditto the Philippines, Muslim Moro peoples have been forced to live by Catholic christian values from Tagalog peoples who make up the central government in Manila. No wonder separatism is alive and well in those countries.

Tiba2 citer national politics pulak biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jun 18 2014, 09:46 PM)
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KJ for the next Defence Minister anyone?  tongue.gif
*kenapa dia boleh simpan rambut! orang lain kena tapak tiga!  vmad.gif
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pasal dia reservists je kot tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

reservist pun, still budak payung udara, atau short form dia, payudara laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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From the Minister of Defence

This 2014 Defence Capability Plan details the next steps for delivering a more integrated Defence Force, in which all parts of the New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) can be brought together on operations in support of the Government’s defence goals.

http://www.defence.govt.nz/pdfs/reports-pu...y-plan-2014.pdf
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 19 2014, 04:42 PM)
Not surprising in regards of Indonesia's size and the nature of its scattered archipelago. Furthermore unlike Malaysia which is historically relatively peaceful (except during emergency period) Indonesia has in the past and is still plagued by separatist movements like in Acheh, Maluku and Irian Jaya. So a large armed forces are deployed to keep the (many) separatist movements of the far provinces under control.

Unlike Malaysia which has a Federation-style government where each of the constituent states has its own government and each state has a great deal of freedom in how each state governs itself. Putrajaya actually only has power over federal matters,for example national defense & international relations and in theory,don't have the right to say how each state should be ruled,only how much to allocate the national budget to each state.            (Putrajaya bagi duit,suka hati la setiap negeri nak buat apa) 

Indonesia is a Unitary-style government where all government power is concentrated in Jakarta. Everything each province does in terms of development and upkeep has to follow Jakarta's say so. Power is delegated to each province only as much as Jakarta sees fit. But obviously sometimes Jakarta-appointed governors don't follow local customs and culture. That's why for provincial people (Achenese, Papuan) with distinct cultural differences from Javanese people in Jakarta actually don't like being ruled by Indonesia and try to secede.

Same with Thailand where,for example,Malay ethnic Muslim peoples of Pattani, Yala and Narathiwat are forced to learn speak Siamese language in everyday matters. One of the reasons why the three southern Thai provinces want more autonomy powers within Thailand. The people are ethnic Malays and have little in common with the Siamese people who run the government in Bangkok, but is forced to live by Siamese and Buddhist values. Ditto the Philippines, Muslim Moro peoples have been forced to live by Catholic christian values from Tagalog peoples who make up the central government in Manila. No wonder separatism is alive and well in those countries.

Tiba2 citer national politics pulak  biggrin.gif
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Wow.....I'm actually discussing about the structure of armed forces, volunteer vs. conscription. Not form of government and secession.
It isn't actually relevant, because Indonesia could conscript a huge number of half-trained troops to fight insurgency. But instead it chooses an all-volunteer armed forces.

Besides things are much more peaceful in Indonesia right now and perhaps more than Malaysia. Just dealing with a handful of OPM irregulars in PNG border, nothing more.

Seceding from Indonesia isn't always a good idea, Timor Leste could now afford only to allocate $1.5 billion each year of annual state budget from oil/gas sources that will be depleted in 10 years. Meanwhile, their brethren in West Timor could enjoy an annual provincial budget of $2 billion from central government budget and other sustainable sources.

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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Jun 19 2014, 06:14 PM)
Wow.....I'm actually discussing about the structure of armed forces, volunteer vs. conscription. Not form of government and secession.
It isn't actually relevant, because Indonesia could conscript a huge number of half-trained troops to fight insurgency. But instead it chooses an all-volunteer armed forces.

Besides things are much more peaceful in Indonesia right now and perhaps more than Malaysia. Just dealing with a handful of OPM irregulars in PNG border, nothing more.

Seceding from Indonesia isn't always a good idea, Timor Leste could now afford only to allocate $1.5 billion each year of annual state budget from oil/gas sources that will be depleted in 10 years. Meanwhile, their brethren in West Timor could enjoy an annual provincial budget of $2 billion from central government budget and other sustainable sources.
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Haha tu la tiba2 masuk bab governance pulak....lari tajuk skit,sori.....

Anyway, moving on....this is the new emblem of the Russian Army to replace the Soviet-era Red Star.The new emblem is to be unveiled publicly on Russia's National day parade on 21 June.

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 19 2014, 11:37 PM)
Haha tu la tiba2 masuk bab governance pulak....lari tajuk skit,sori.....

Anyway, moving on....this is the new emblem of the Russian Army to replace the Soviet-era Red Star.The new emblem is to be unveiled publicly on Russia's National day parade on 21 June.

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but but hammer & sickle much more fierce-looking cry.gif
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 19 2014, 11:37 PM)
Haha tu la tiba2 masuk bab governance pulak....lari tajuk skit,sori.....

Anyway, moving on....this is the new emblem of the Russian Army to replace the Soviet-era Red Star.The new emblem is to be unveiled publicly on Russia's National day parade on 21 June.

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TUDM has same uniform as USAF??


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https://www.facebook.com/pacific.command/ph...?type=3&theater

Air Force Lt. Gen. Russell Handy, Alaskan Command and 11th Air Force commander, talks to Maj. Gen. Dato' Sri Hj Affendi bin Buang, chief director of exercise and air operation, at P.U. Subang, Malaysia, June 15, 2014 during his visit to Cope Taufan 14. Handy's visit is to strengthen relations between the U.S. Air Force and RMAF commitment by enhancing the cooperative security goals and partnership. (U.S. Air Force photo/Staff Sgt. Sheila deVera) Staff Sgt. Sheila devera


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Col. Suri Ben Mohamed Daued, Chief Exercise Commander for Cope Taufan 2014, Briefs flight crews from the U.S. Air Force, Hawaii Air National Guard, Massachusetts National Guard, and the Royal Malaysian Air Force P.U. Butterworth, Malaysia, June 9, 2014. Cope Taufan is designed to improve U.S. and Malaysian combined readiness and interoperability. Cope Taufan reinforces U.S. Pacific Command Theater Security Cooperation goals for the Southeast Asian region and demonstrates U.S. capability to project forces strategically in a combined, joint environment. More than 450 Airmen are participating, as well as four U.S. Air Force airframes, which includes the inaugural deployment of the F-22 Raptor to a southeast Asian exercise. (U.S. Air Force photo by Tech. Sgt. Andrew Jackson)

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jun 17 2014, 02:24 AM)
I think the person uploading the video using slowpoke Internet or messup with the file.
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he managed to turn it into a slide show

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