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post Jul 5 2014, 07:07 PM

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Whre malaysia self propelled artillery? So kesian sampai now tak ada
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post Jul 10 2014, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(edwardstevens @ Jul 10 2014, 09:16 AM)
so, got rumor US nak kasi pinjam f22 kat tudm

abe2 miliatari boleh bagi insight sket?
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deployed more often to SEA if that your rumored "pinjam"

If pinjam for evaluation, that would be totally baseless
f22 is permanent shut for production, no way USA will open production. Even so, our history of small purchases just not worth open a production line again

IF PAK FA, then yes could be a very true rumors. I heard Russian even invite us to join in the development. laugh.gif

QUOTE(MichaelJohn @ Jul 10 2014, 09:30 PM)
They're finding a forward base in SEA region like the one in Okinawa?  hmm.gif
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they would prefer SG compared to Malaysia if based facilities alone whistling.gif
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post Jul 10 2014, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jul 10 2014, 10:54 PM)
lol... home made? frame russian, all parts foreign... which part india? kerusi?

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design russian, made in India

macam perodua, design jepun, modify sikit made in Malaysia whistling.gif
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post Jul 11 2014, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jul 11 2014, 11:33 AM)
Kat somalia US cakap besar...komplen kata condor tu standard mcm trak yg letak guni pasir je sbg protection. Tp lepas kes bakara market la....masa kena ambush semua ikut je. Nk harap humvee lg la....
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afgan and iraq pun sama... masuk humvee.. kena boom whistling.gif

now hardly any humve
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post Jul 11 2014, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jul 11 2014, 01:43 PM)
Look like f22 laugh.gif
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post Jul 14 2014, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Jul 14 2014, 01:14 PM)
yeah but usually PRC spy the little ROC

now ROC spy PRC

dafuq
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Spy on their missiles and arty battery position. First strike in case anything happen
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post Jul 18 2014, 01:12 AM

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wow.. if it is russian who shot it down

this could be one hell of diplomatic problem, we are user of Russian equipments. Most likely sure will have effect of future procurement

USA will be smiling all the way, contract coming soon

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post Jul 18 2014, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(Gregyong @ Jul 18 2014, 01:18 AM)
Europe not an option meh?
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europe already established

USA and russian are eyeing for more Malaysia contracts. Now Russian might face a huge blow
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post Jul 18 2014, 02:09 AM

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the interesting part

how malaysia going to response? Both US and Russia are good malaysia partner
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post Jul 18 2014, 02:20 AM

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QUOTE(lulz @ Jul 18 2014, 02:19 AM)
Probably nothing much, will say "we will cooperate with them" , "get update" and the likes. No sanctions or military action will be taken.
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i mean trade and military

those are front face diplomacy.. what happen at the back is the most interesting
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post Jul 18 2014, 02:23 AM

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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Jul 18 2014, 02:20 AM)
we once serve for NATO under UN right? so by right IN CASE IF were really separatist work then we side with NATO
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UN peace keeping... not related to NATO UN are suppose to be neutral laugh.gif

Now we wait who will held responsible
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post Jul 18 2014, 02:31 AM

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QUOTE(terminator2 @ Jul 18 2014, 02:25 AM)
agree with u 100%

USA interests in msia wont climb too far due to few factors:

1_ SG ( their little beloved baby and their weapon factory to middle east via Saudi )

USA got a a big trust in SG due to many reasons (safe , far from Indon,thai,pinoyland)

2_ religion : in MSIA there is a vibe of extremism in some people including some PAS supporters ,
so the last thing US wants is to face such a dilema

MSIA/USA bonding wont exceed fake smiles and easy tourism relationships
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i guess u are pretty outdated
do note US and malaysia have quite close military relationship. can see through various military training

Sincerely, USA relationship with SG and Malaysia are pretty much similar, just SG got extra goodies to offer (economy and money power as well lack of extremism)

SG relation with Isreal is the most significant. whistling.gif
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post Jul 18 2014, 02:38 AM

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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Jul 18 2014, 02:23 AM)
i see
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there another interesting

The plane is Malaysian, most passenger are from Netherlands ( NATO member), US and Ukraine is blaming russian, Russian say it not them

Use of SAM is act of war, now we will see how this crisis will go whistling.gif
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post Jul 18 2014, 02:41 AM

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QUOTE(terminator2 @ Jul 18 2014, 02:38 AM)
you are partially right

but this minor training are just to put some ash on the table and to convince people like you that there is some action going on ..

you are 100% wrong when u say USA/SG = USA/MY relationship .

anyway i have no mood for long talk and quarreling..
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f22 is minor? Even SG didnt get or any nearby SEA allies get to train with f22

go investigate how Israel and SG relationship give them the best bucks laugh.gif laugh.gif

Then u know why i say SG/USA and MY/USA, is pretty much similar just SG got the best relation with out of the best technology supplier
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post Jul 18 2014, 02:43 AM

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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Jul 18 2014, 02:39 AM)
i saw few straya passport

commonwealth member, British aren't liking this
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Netherlands wont like this the most brows.gif brows.gif
once the passenger list is out

Malaysia response would most likely lukewarm, seeing how our leadership during mh370
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post Jul 18 2014, 02:53 AM

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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Jul 18 2014, 02:47 AM)
then who wouldn't? glimpse of all the passport

mostly western Europe country

seems like 1853 all over again
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CALL for UN ad

So far, picture dutch malaysia, if i not mistaken, so news got American on it also

Russia will have one hell of an headache to deal with
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post Jul 18 2014, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jul 18 2014, 02:59 PM)
Aku dpt ni dlm tered malaysia declare war dgn ukraine...
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last week saw 4 transporter carrying our pt91m from seremban toward KL, any indication will be send to sabah?
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post Jul 20 2014, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jul 20 2014, 11:49 AM)
If twin engine and come with two seater variant, I am sure our airforce will be interested

Being Korean made, at least quality n maintenance wont be much of an issue
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post Jul 20 2014, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Jul 20 2014, 03:13 PM)
doesn't make sense though, to buy a future korean plane that has performance level of advanced f16.
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not necessary.. give the level of defense in SEA, it will be a very very very long time before anyone will adopt stealth as their main air force machine. Our main will still be our beloved su-35

our f18 will also soon face retirement, following our air force love for twin engine and seater, this is quite a good candidate for replacement. If stealth is the main priority, PAK FA is the favorite it already have twin engine and possible two seat variant. F35 is almost out of the question

i do understand our air force love for twin engine since if one engine fail, the aircraft can still fly to land safely. Understandable since we have limited number and every one is important. But i cant understand the need for two seater? anyone care to explain?

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post Jul 21 2014, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jul 21 2014, 12:50 PM)
The KF-X / IF-X variant C-103iA (Internal Weapon Bay Air-To-Air Combat) looks more like the F-22.

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look like no thrust vectoring available

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