QUOTE(azriel @ Aug 23 2014, 09:45 AM)
24 units Leopard 2A4 & 28 units Marder IFV of the Indonesian Army due to arrive on August 28th 2014.


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QUOTE(azriel @ Aug 23 2014, 09:45 AM) 24 units Leopard 2A4 & 28 units Marder IFV of the Indonesian Army due to arrive on August 28th 2014. What an ugly green![]() ![]() source |
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Aug 23 2014, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Aug 23 2014, 02:07 PM) RMK budget follow trend i think around less USD 5 Billion(development budget) for 5 year .... unless Gov increase alot on budget All those are based on previous budget.GOV already spend alot money for Army on AV8,SAM already in MOU with china, wait to see next 1~2 year for Mou results. Army Top should be Attack Heli, and self propelled artillery, maybe next phase MBT. For Navy pass news they also request Kedah class upgrade, ASW Heli, FAC replacement, LPD, also heli for LCS. Airforce should be get bigger budget,like MRCA,MPA/AEW, Hawk replacement. ESSCOM new Army/navy/Airforce base in Lahat latu? new Boat? surveillance radar ? Usually new budget is for new procurement project. But army would like an attack heli as well as sam and arty the most Airforce would like a new radar system Navy would be the ldp But i got a feeling army this year may get what they want. Mostly because the item in their wish list cheapest except the attack heli and sam of course QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Aug 23 2014, 03:12 PM) More like they copy n paste the grey on the greenMalaysia camo look nicer for their darker tone |
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Aug 23 2014, 03:38 PM) Airforce is the one who left out the most. What are the hopefull candidates for mmrca?army and navy already have their big ticket. sgpv and av8. Airforce did not get anything in prior of 2010-2015. Though they supposed to get mig replacement done in thesetime frame. Unfortunately nothing happen for them. next rmk we might see. navy - asw heli, fac, kedah and lekui class upgrade. Airforce - mmrca, aew, long range radar and mpa Army - mid range sam, sph, attack heli. Airforce have a good chance get what they asking for. as some insider rumors were quite positive. As for sph, asw heli, mid range sam and attack heli remain hopeful. |
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Aug 23 2014, 05:03 PM
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Aug 23 2014, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Aug 23 2014, 05:50 PM) f-15 is mainly air superiority fighter, good for defending air space especially small island like Singapore. They no need for large bombing capacity. f-18 is multirole fighter, suitable for us due to out small procurement number and most important it twin engine f-16 is also a multirole figther but it single engine something that our air force have avoided. Mmrca i think twin engine with two seater variant have a higher chance of winning trivia... we always avoided having what the neighbour have, that why u wont see the same inventory QUOTE(nufix @ Aug 23 2014, 07:13 PM) darker tone in paddy field. I wonder how it will perform while on wet paddy field |
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Aug 23 2014, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(junchuan @ Aug 23 2014, 10:00 PM) Just remembered something i read a while ago i think the most probable mrca now is the eurofighter and sh-18, both my favourites sos Under the MRCA, the RMAF is looking to equip three squadrons with 36 to 40 new fighter aircraft. i think this is a little far fetch.. 18 is a more realistic number considering our budget is not big and going by Malaysia, sure there will be extra customization made on request by the air force which add to the overall cost but then again, need confirmation on this |
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Aug 24 2014, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Aug 23 2014, 10:33 PM) easy, buy FC-1 Batch2 ...... 1 unit Typhoon/Rafale can buy 3 unit FC-1 jet, so 1 squadrons Typhoon/Rafale = 3 squadrons, than solved all 3 squadrons needed. each 1 squadrons for Sabah/Sarawak and Pekan. haha QUOTE(junchuan @ Aug 23 2014, 10:34 PM) I think the govt might commit to it because this news was written 10 days after mh370 plus because of the spratly islands thing, maybe najib will gib us surprise by giving armed forces bigger budget in next rmk, also i think the news is govt controlled no.. it not from goverment source news, it written by someone, onlline news anyone can write anything. Take with a pinch of saltno far no official letter request for information, therefore, we wont know the actual number until the tender notice is up. For now, it just anyone guess. My guess is 18 to be more reasonable QUOTE(waja2000 @ Aug 23 2014, 10:38 PM) hawk.. i heard will have extended service life making their immediate replacement not so urgent or in the next replacement phase after the mrca mig29 have alot of maintenance issues or so again i heard QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Aug 23 2014, 11:03 PM) nope.. still sameyou buy this 100 missile, US give you 20 biji for your own usage at your own country, the remaining they keep until you request for it even if you already pay full amount they dont want give , you cant do anything also. I got this from recent iraq purchase where US will help store some of the purchaseD missile, canot remember whre i read it though That why, mahathir was angry, I buy, I paid full price, I canot use |
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Aug 24 2014, 12:08 AM) f-35 delay... that's why not sure, i asked the same question as well but it seem the air force is mainly interested in twin engine and and best two sit variant well, itu US buat kacau... say international waters but it is right at china's door step.. if china does the same, US would do the same as well sg got nearly 80 f-16s... indo no choice, part of donation.. f-18 designed for carrier sg got f-16 for bombing... their f-15s to take control of air, can do light bombing.. twin engine so 1 hilang got 1 more? if f16vs f18 dog fight.. i think f16 might win.. dog fight? Most likely they will send the mkm and mig up instead of f18, better equid for the task on hand anyway, with Malaysia wanting a mid range SAM, i am sure most our immediate neighbours will have their eyes blinking once it purchased sadly after the mh17 incident, chances of buk being selected sure going down the drain This post has been edited by thpace: Aug 24 2014, 12:17 AM |
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Aug 24 2014, 02:42 AM) well buk was never in ATM plan anyway SLAMRAAM? are you sure? only Starstreak with Pantsir as small dome protection SLAMRAAM for medium dome protection while the S300/S400 for the rest opss me thinks me talk too much but meh if only the gomen is serious to pour money like they used to kesian TUDM I was told that it was like mentioned once during meeting then no news after that because other cheaper and equally range system like for example the buk are considered. pantsir again i also heard for point defense purpose but no news after that They say they try to opt for russian or europe even maybe china based system first before american from past news, i can see why s300/s400 got news said offered to us but again seeing our budget no point having one battalion, should have a few then can consider nation wide air defence |
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Aug 24 2014, 03:12 AM) Tbh if we have money I prefer we going for MEADS. well i doubt we will be getting any sam tis rmk.. it was in the back burner for so longbut seeing our small budget it would be very cost effective we go for saab bamse. maybe sph since some of it already under testing in malaysia, just tunggu duit masuk kesian malaysia, even if opposition were to take over, our arm forces will still get cuts |
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Aug 24 2014, 03:13 AM) I tot slaamraam is a bust, no future prospect, no production line, the thing is not even complete when the budget is cut? maybe the other variant, NASAMS since based on the same missile[Air Defense: SLAMRAAM Dies From Loneliness] |
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Aug 24 2014, 03:22 AM) Meh, I was being funny laar pantsir kena the famous "no surplus" reason again? that why I said I maybe talked a little much the Pantsir deal at one time look a little to certain macam dah nak kompom dah until the sound of cricket the article was in 2011 right? heh it was wayy before that, it was in the plan before the retirement of the starburst maybe the US are that desperate at that time kot well i do hope we get some good long range sam first then just medium. At least boleh tunjuk whoever come near me, i shoot u down first |
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QUOTE(Dreadstar @ Aug 24 2014, 05:49 AM) If mrca going for SH... why not choose advance version. iinm boeing already offer us the advance super horny for our mrca... what the point of having most advance figther but with risk canot shoot missile due to congress issues or half the inventory have to keep at US bases instead of our owns? This post has been edited by thpace: Aug 24 2014, 06:11 AM |
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QUOTE(xtemujin @ Aug 24 2014, 07:08 AM) If you go the Russian route, you'll have problems with spare parts just like the Indian AirForce (IAF). It was in the initial stage. It solved now.It gets that bad that the IAF is now procuring defence equipments from USA. Iaf procure equipment from usa because of warming ties and also diverse their inventory from western block region Do note during india nuclear weapon programme, usa place an embargo on them. So they only can get equipment from russia Our mig29 have spare part issue because it direct from Russia. Russia slow give spare parts. Su is from irkut while have less spare part issues and they building spare part factory here. So it another plus. I nvr a fan of usa equipment not because i boycott them but rather the dumb restrictions they place on them. I pay full price but cant use full capabilities idea But then again i alao heard our air force like usa made despite the restrictions placed on them because reliability issues. Russia not so. It was during mahathir time tis idea changed when we start looking from eastern block |
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QUOTE(Dreadstar @ Aug 24 2014, 09:44 AM) Not growler ... our cik su is enuff for that task. Advance super horny even US navy belum guna. I read somewhere that boeing already offer us this version for mrca. Btw I didn't know thre such plane as super horny jets.![]() Must be got xtra vibration function... hahaha Most likely searching for international customer Usa is already too commited in its f35 programme This post has been edited by thpace: Aug 24 2014, 10:31 AM |
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Aug 25 2014, 11:49 AM) Hehe found the articles. Replacement for?I dun expect much from these but it will be cheaper than kedah class. however since then we dun have much info on these and wont be surprising as even its rfi were low profile only been notice in dsa2014. DSA 2014: DSME reveals missile corvette proposal for Malaysian Navy South Korea's Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering (DSME) showcased its proposal for a missile surface corvette (MSC) for the Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) at DSA 2014. Junho (Bruno) Joung of DSME's Naval and Special Ship Marketing Team, told IHS Jane'son 15 April that the model is being presented to the RMN in response to its request for information to replace at least three platforms with new corvettes. The proposed vessel has a length of 85.5 m, a beam of 12.9 m and displaces 1,800 tonnes at full load. The corvette can reach a top speed of in excess of 25 kt. http://www.janes.com/article/36864/dsa-201...-malaysian-navy |
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Aug 25 2014, 03:11 PM) Err. 27ngpv? i though already cancelled after only 6 was ordered (kedah class)it will be build locally but currently with ngv tech having dispute and financial woes not sure these project will goes on. Ngv tech too aggressive with their expension plans really put themselves into tight spot. anyway back to the boustead, yes they are upgrading their ship yards however they have their hand full now. which I doubt they have the capacity to fill two order at the same times. if navy want new ship asap they have to find others ship yards. which is a good thing if it were not monopoly by boustead. besides the government still bind with boustead on the 27 ngpv contract which only fulfill just 6 ship and on going 6 gowind class and 15 more ship to go. |
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