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post Jul 8 2014, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 8 2014, 09:47 AM)
Declassified photo of the construction of a Typhoon-class SSBN. What a monster!

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Imagine what NATO would give for a set of these back in the 1980s.....
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going big is no longer the trend...
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post Jul 8 2014, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 8 2014, 11:50 AM)
Depends on the purpose. Diesel-electric boats for local offshore patrol can afford to be small due to smaller powerplant & shorter operation time.

For a boomer carrying SLBMs or cruise missiles with patrol times of 5-6 months, it's not an option. The number of personnel and equipment for operating sophisticated missiles and a nuclear reactor effectively for such a long patrol time would neccesarily be large. Even the new Borey-class ICBM/Cruise missile submarine is as large as a US Ohio-class sub.

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Comparison between Typhoon-class, Borei-class and UK Vanguard-class submarines
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i see... true also...

any comparison with the american subs? put them all together

QUOTE(bai1101 @ Jul 8 2014, 12:00 PM)
Scorpeon look like peanut compare them o.o
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diff role bro
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post Jul 10 2014, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(HangPC2 @ Jul 10 2014, 02:59 PM)

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lol... home made? frame russian, all parts foreign... which part india? kerusi?

QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jul 10 2014, 06:43 PM)
anyone inside can tell whether they launched a rescue mission or pay ransom?
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sure say nothing paid... thumbup.gif

Why didn't Najib listen to Pakatan on Esscom?

MP SPEAKS Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak’s administration should learn more constructive suggestions from Pakatan Rakyat's memorandum that was submitted to his government to improve the security situation in Eastern Sabah.

Najib in announcing the restructuring of the Sabah Eastern Security Command (Esscom) said a senior police officer , Deputy Commissioner Abdul Rashid Harun, has been appointed to be Esscom commander and that he would be in charge of intelligence, security and defence.

In announcing the restructuring of Esscom on Tuesday, Najib said it would have two main components - security and defence management, and enforcement and public action.

This, I believe, shows that the prime minister has finally acknowledged the fundamental structural weaknesses that are already pinpointed by the memorandum, “Keselamatan Sabah Timur Tanggungjawab Siapa?” submitted to him on June 11 by Pakatan Rakyat.

The appointment of a senior police officer to head three special divisions of intelligence, security and defence, as well as operations, proves that the Eastern Sabah security is an internal security issue, as stated in our memorandum.

However, the appointment of Abdul Rashid Harun does not solve the weaknesses that lie in the Preservation of Public Security Regulations 2013 and its amendment. Other than the police force, can he command and control the defence, maritime and other enforcement forces?

Select committe on this is needed

That’s why a parliamentary select committee should be formed to oversee the whole matter, to make recommendations and to take remedial measures to resolve this problem.

The imbalanced deployment of the Armed Forces and police in Peninsular Malaysia, Sabah and Sarawak is another problem.

In the era of counter-insurgency, Peninsular Malaysia was the main battleground, where most of the police and military personnel and assets were deployed. The end of the armed communist threat shall lead to a revision of this strategy.

An analysis shows that the deployment of the police and military forces in the peninsula accounts for 70 percent, while Sabah/Sarawak account for the remaining 30 percent.

This is also why troops from the peninsula are sent to Sabah to reinforce the security strength. For example, the 21st Royal Malay Regiment based in Pengkalan Chepa, Perak, was sent to Sabah last year to reinforce the Ops Daulat.

Recognising the imbalance in the deployment of the police and military forces, it is timely to revisit the national threat perceptions and revise the strategy to adopt a rebalancing approach, that is, to put 50 percent of the police and military forces in the peninsula and 50 percent in Sabah and Sarawak. The parliamentary select committee can pick up the task.

The occurrence of the Lahad Datu tragedy and the series of abduction cases prove the complete failure of the country’s intelligence collecting capability.

It is no more a secret that our security forces are infiltrated by foreigners. Information about the operations and deployment have been leaked to potential kidnapping or terrorist groups.

A Special Branch officer, Hassan Ali Basari, was convicted in August last year over the Lahad Datu tragedy, while two Royal Malaysian Navy personnel were arrested recently for their alleged involvement in illegal military activities in southern Philippines.

However, our police Special Branch is still maintaining a cold war mind set. As stated in the national budgets put up every year, monitoring the communist threat is one of the fundamental roles of the Special Branch.

In addition, Special Branch has put a lot of efforts in monitoring opposition leaders and their movements.

If the efforts can be diverted to prevention of crime and counter-terrorism, nationwide security will be improved tremendously.

As suggested in the Pakatan memorandum, the core business of the police Special Branch must be reviewed.

The Special Branch must be rebranded or replaced with a new intelligence unit, like a Criminal Intelligence Bureau, so as to concentrate on collecting criminal and national security related information, rather than embarking on collecting political information.

Despite our prime minister having taken the very first step, it is not too late for the Najib administration to pick up more constructive suggestions from the memorandum to improve the Eastern Sabah security situation.

http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/268338
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post Jul 10 2014, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Jul 10 2014, 11:02 PM)
design russian, made in India

macam perodua, design jepun, modify sikit  made in Malaysia whistling.gif
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post Jul 11 2014, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jul 11 2014, 12:44 AM)
Well the proposal of having 50:50 ratio between peninsular wont be cheap for operation cost.
probably it will eat up few hundred million of dollars.
More base or bigger base will be require to build in borneo
the military probably will ask to increase the military personnel to 150k as well.
though i would welcome to have such ratio.
so now come the question will the government and opposition agree on more budget for the military to support such ratio distribution?
Between pakatan suggestions wont be enough to improve the security conditions at sabah.
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true also.. i believe 70:30 is just right... most assets are in the peninsula

do u think militarizing the NS would be a good idea?

QUOTE(yinchet @ Jul 11 2014, 03:05 PM)
Unless we procure 1000units av8 then we will see full decommissioning of sibmas and condor.
Fv101 need to be retain unless we procure cv90s
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is upgrading or selling 2nd hand an option?
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post Jul 11 2014, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jul 11 2014, 03:21 PM)
Ns turning into conscription?
Yeah y not.
it would at least better than the current summer camp.
I also prefer those student with bad discipline problem to be force into conscription rather than having to be drop out ended as criminal.

upgrading condor nah no thanks.
2nd hand? Is there any1 selling good and high tech apc in the market currently? I doubt so.

Cheaper and short term alternative I suggest lmv evico though it was not apc but it will perform better than our condor though it have limited weapons system available.
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only afraid once after grad they would use their new found skills n ability for -ve activities like terrorism, crime... etc etc

i mean we sell our hardware as 2nd hand to others..

for sbh i believe a vehicle that can travel on mud n holes with armour to protect against rpg n or 12mm will do... pinoys are not heavily armed right?


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post Jul 11 2014, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jul 11 2014, 03:40 PM)
Nah make compulsory for them to join military.
which is better rather than having them to be rempit or joining gangster. Serve the country rather becoming troublemakers.

I see not sure any1 would want to buy condor.

lmv evico would be perfect to operates at sabah.
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yea... only afraid after that how..later run to syria or iraq or mesir

hmm, then should donate to wataniah or ns

evico can tahan rpg? 7.62? 50cal?
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post Jul 11 2014, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jul 11 2014, 05:03 PM)
Depending on armour setup.
it can easily survive ied, 7.62 and rpg.
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ok... i go contact my fren see can make contract or not


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post Jul 11 2014, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(heavyduty @ Jul 11 2014, 05:38 PM)
Usually soldiers have travel limitations. Need a lot of paperwork if want to go to overseas .
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not if it is part of ns... like tw, kr, sg
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post Jul 11 2014, 07:23 PM

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perisai si yahudi... sources from mossad says singkieland is interested


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post Jul 11 2014, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jul 11 2014, 08:40 PM)
btw bukan Singapore dah beli ke?
ganti sistem rapier depa
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QUOTE(cukobi @ Jul 11 2014, 08:46 PM)
iron dome mmg sg dah lama beli...ada tu simpan elok2...
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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Jul 11 2014, 08:51 PM)
cos they working on Iron Beam, use laser.
rafael spyder, which is precursor of iron dome.
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ada yg baru punia.. bukan control anti air je... boleh guna tembak kapal dan launch icbm
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QUOTE(wesleyktr @ Jul 11 2014, 10:24 PM)
ok sifu sifu sekalian,i got a real serious question to ask here ( i dont know shit about military )
is malaysia's army really that bad like some people say? or is it pretty decent ?
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decent... but if u compare wif others... mgiht not...

complacency, corruption, lack of discipline... has taken its toll
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post Jul 12 2014, 01:23 AM

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post Jul 12 2014, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Jul 12 2014, 04:26 AM)
Iron Dome used for total air defence? But now used to shoot down unguided rockets. So why we no have defence system against MLRS? Why no make improvements on flak rounds to be used to distrupt flight or destroy MLRS rockets?
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inb4 ada defense system tapi operator tidor just like radar...
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post Jul 12 2014, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(xtemujin @ Jul 12 2014, 11:25 AM)
I've to be very frank, they need to change the acronym ESSCom and ESSZone as even the name does not inspire confidence.
Bunga Mas Lima sails to ESSZone

http://www.malaysiandefence.com/?p=4623
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wataver name it doesnt matter... what matters is how they do their job

QUOTE(G3-X @ Jul 12 2014, 11:32 AM)
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hvng more hardware doesnt mean cowardly
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QUOTE(heavyduty @ Jul 12 2014, 11:50 AM)
Some people think that's cowardly while blowing yourself up in a civilian area is considered brave
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or using civilian as shield
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QUOTE(G3-X @ Jul 12 2014, 11:47 AM)


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post Jul 12 2014, 03:29 PM

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Singapore ship successfully fires surface-to-air missile in joint exercise

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Singapore Navy's (RSN) Formidable-class frigate RSS Intrepid, successfully carried out a live-firing of an Aster Surface-to-Air Missile on 12 July as part of the multilateral Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC) maritime exercise.

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Hosted by the United States Navy, the exercise comprises a shore planning phase and a 22-day sea phase off the coast of Hawaii.

The RSS Intrepid with an S-70B Seahawk naval helicopter, is participating in this year's exercise alongside assets from 21 other countries, including 49 ships, six submarines, more than 200 aircraft and 25 000 personnel.

The RSS Intrepid is commanding a task unit with four other warships from Chile, Norway and the United States.

- See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/singapore...h.MU9qgIsK.dpuf



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post Jul 13 2014, 12:32 AM

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Louis Silvie "Louie" Zamperini (January 26, 1917 – July 2, 2014) was an American World War II prisoner of war survivor, inspirational speaker, and Olympic distance runner. In 2010 Laura Hillenbrand wrote a best-selling book about his experiences, which was adapted into film in 2014, Unbroken, directed by Angelina Jolie, adapted by the Coen brothers, and with Jack O'Connell playing Zamperini.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Zamperini

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